Why the creation of Pakistan does not negate my Indian identity

Published: August 13, 2017
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A cricket fan gets his face painted with the colors of the Pakistan and Indian national flags ahead of the ICC World Cup semifinal match between India and Pakistan, in Gauhati, India, Tuesday, March 29, 2011. PHOTO: AP

There is something about India as an idea which transcends modern-day political configurations. It is the idea of India as a huge mass of land which stretches from Balochistan to present day Bangladesh. This idea of India is independent of any political configuration.

In fact, during the past thousands of years, this mass of land has very seldom been a unified political entity. And yet, there is something which loosely unites the inhabitants despite their substantial religious and at times even ethno-linguistic differences. After all, let us not forget that more than 200 languages are spoken in India.

There is something, perhaps difficult to articulate, which enables this huge stretch of land to be called India irrespective of various political shapes it has assumed over thousands of years.

My country Pakistan was created only 70 years ago. In my eyes, the current political landscape consisting of India, Bangladesh and Pakistan is just one of the many political permutations the Indian subcontinent has witnessed over thousands of years. This current political formation does not mean that I have ceased to be an Indian.

Yes, at this point, I will say that I am a proud Pakistani. I opened my eyes here and I love it intensely despite the fact that I have often been severely critical of the way things are being run here. But at the same time, I would also like to say that I have an Indian identity as well.

I am the heir to the same rich past and I have the same claim to India as those who belong to modern political India. It is this great common heritage, underpinned by the idea of India independent of political configurations, which unites me with those who live in the present political entity of India. It is our common heritage irrespective of our different political, and for that matter even cultural differences – because modern political India also has many sub-cultures which differ substantially from each other – which unites us.

Yes, those who worship the idea of the Two-Nation Theory will negate it and ironically their sentiments will find endorsement by a Hindutva brigade. The former thinks that identity is perhaps a monolithic phenomenon and Pakistan equates to an antithesis of India. They think that identity is solely a political cum religious construct and since Pakistan is a separate political entity, we are now just Pakistanis in every respect of the way.

The political Pakistan means the fostering of a completely new identity and a complete divorce from the past. For them, their past starts from the point their ancestors converted to Islam and their identity morphs into something concrete only after the creation of Pakistan. And this group, consisting of so-called nationalists, is also wary of ethnic identities and aligns itself with the state cultivated narrative of “one Pakistan, one nation”.

On the other hand, the Indian right-wingers think that since Pakistan became a separate state, their country was “partitioned” and an unforgivable sin has been committed. By creating Pakistan, its inhabitants have divided mother India. They keep on talking about the glory of the Indus valley civilisation and mention India as a historically single political entity which in 1947 was divided along religious lines.

Well, needless to say, I disagree with both parties. My premise is that people have multiple identities. I am a Pakistani, a Punjabi, a Muslim, and of course an Indian in the sense I have mentioned above. In fact, we all have multiple identities. At times, one identity may become dominant due to certain circumstances and may even take on a strong political expression, such as a demand for a separate state. However, even if one does so, the other identities do not simply disappear.

So in my case, my Indian identity is there despite my Pakistani identity. I may not consciously ‘choose’ it, but for me it is not only a matter of choice, as it is an identity shaped by history and culture transmitted through generations. It is that common historical heritage which binds me together with those who live in the neighbouring political India.

I have been fortunate to know numerous Indians at both of my alma maters, Cornell University and Syracuse University. Some of my best friends are Indians and I am amazed at how much we have in common despite an apparently ‘hostile’ political situation between the two countries. And they do not belong to North India only (as it is often said that North India is culturally closer to Pakistan) but from the South as well. It is this commonality which transcends political and even ethnic and religious differences which binds me to them. I do not think of them as foes but as my brothers and sisters with whom I share a great common heritage.

And yet I will not apologise for Pakistan, as it is my country and I opened my eyes here. I will nevertheless reiterate that the creation of Pakistan, at least in my eyes, does not negate my Indian identity and origins. I would like to remind all those who are bent upon imposing the Arab Wahabi culture on us that it is alien to us.

Today, as our countries turn 70, I believe that realising our common identity is important, as it will lead to the erosion of bitterness. Yes, modern Pakistan and India are a reality, but then so is our great common heritage. Yes, it is important for us to be loyal to our political states, but at the same time not overlook the joint heritage.

There is an overarching identity which unites us despite our political differences. I sincerely wish we acknowledge that and move forward as independent but friendly political states.

I am a Pakistani Indian…

raza.habib

Raza Habib Raja

The author is a recent Cornell graduate and currently pursuing his PhD in political science at Maxwell School, Syracuse University. He has also worked for a leading development finance institution in Pakistan. He is a freelance journalist whose works have been published at Huffington Post, Dawn (Pakistan), Express Tribune (Pakistan) and Pak Tea House. He tweets @razaraja (twitter.com/razaraja?lang=en)

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • True Nationalist -Secularist

    Religious extremism on both sides of wagah border is cause of concern for civil society. India even though born on principles of plural, liberal , modern all inclusive ideology, is currently facing challenge from RW bigots from sangh parivar. RW elements have been formenting trouble since 1940s to divide society of religious, race, language , race , gender basis . But due to inherent secular mindset of majority of Hindus , these RW have failed to raise their ugly head. with Congress facing internal challenges, RW elements have managed to rise, but this will remain short lived. Lets hope , similarly RW religious bigots on Pakistani soil shall be vanquished for better future .Recommend

  • Vineeth

    Needless to say, Pakistanis wouldn’t have had a trouble calling themselves ‘Indian’ or ‘Hindustani’ had the modern Republic of India adopted a different formal, international name like ‘Bharat’ for itself. After all, the river Indus/Sindhu which formed the basis for Greek word ‘India’ or the Persian word ‘Hind’ flows mostly through present-day Pakistan. As things stand, independent India’s decision to retain the name for itself allowed it to be the legal successor to ‘British India’ in international fora, and claim the ‘Indian’ cultural legacy of the subcontinent.Recommend

  • http://gravatar.com/skchadha SKChadha

    Habib, you are in minority in Pakistan and impure minority community has no place in the land of Pure … 😤Recommend

  • Feroz

    This is a very broadminded take on identity and I love it. What I really cannot understand is the hate orchestrated against Hindus . The reason it galls is that all residents of India except those like Zoroastrians or Jews who came as refugees fleeing religious persecution – all Hindus. Without the blessings of our forefathers our lives would be rudderless and devoid of meaning. All those spewing hate need to pause and contemplate.Recommend

  • Abhijeet Abhay

    SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN PAKISTANI INDIAN NEWSPAPER.Recommend

  • kp

    agreed with author. we all are Bharatiya/Hindustani no matter which political entity (Pakistan, Bangladesh or India) we live inRecommend

  • Pakistani

    Yawn……Recommend

  • Shibban Kaul

    Appreciate, admire and love your sentiments, Mr Raja. No doubt, India and Pakistan are two separate sovereign nations and we, you and I, are proud Pakistani and Indian citizens respectively. But that doesn’t mean that we should let anyone deprive us of our right of belonging to the the great Indian subcontinent, at least in our minds and hearts. Inshallah, I am sure, in not too distant future, Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis will be able to travel, to live and to work in all three countries without any visa’s or permits. May be our three countries become one federal union, like the European Union, without losing their independent, sovereign status.Recommend

  • The Truth

    How can you claim common heritage with what your religious ideology calls “kafirs” ??
    Makes no sense.Recommend

  • MrRollsRoyce

    Extremely bold article Raza, and I applaud both the clarity of your thought and your bravery in sharing them with the wider world.

    Alas I fear when it comes to other Pakistanis agreeing with you apart from few enlightened minds most will continue to hold a jingoistic and us-vs-them mentality.

    I have come to the conclusion that there are two types of people in this world: those who consider all humans equal regardless of their race or skin color and other differentiating factors (gender, nationality, etc), and those who have an exclusionary approach where only their “in group” is the righteous one and to be favored.

    Its not about Indians vs Pakistanis, Americans vs Mexicans, etc, but intolerant racists/nationalists vs the rationalists and humanists. The news today from the USA where a white supremacist rammed into a crowd of anti-fascism protestors is yet another in the long running story of how the intolerant groups use violence as their first resort. This young man, had he been born in Pakistan, would have likely been singing praises of ISIS and become their willing foot soldier.

    As to us being Indians, there is no doubt that we ARE Indian, we are NOT Arabs as so many would like to believe. Our history is of India, our forefathers were Indian, and we have to remember this as we forge a new tomorrow.

    Alas I can only be pessimistic when I see the rise of Hindutva, and the continued stronghold of extremists in Pakistan, and now the rise of fascism in USA and even Europe.Recommend

  • Manish Joshi

    Hi Raza, As you mentioned being a Pakistani you can claim to have an identity as an Indian too and no one can deny that. However, being an Indian, can I also claim to be a Pakistani? I think not, as I believe that creation of Pakistan was a historical blunder of unparalleled proportions. What it left behind is for all of us to see, starting from the massacre of millions. Beside, their seems to be no logical justification for Pakistan. If religion was the issue and if Pakistan was the solution for all the rifts between Hindus and Muslims, how do we explain the huge populous of Muslims who chose to stay back in India and rejected the idea of Pakistan as their motherland right at the inception. Further, how do we explain the separation of Bangladesh who chose their Bengali identity over their Muslim identify. At least the current state of Pakistan is not what those who wanted it had envisaged. However, it is not to deny the fact that Pakistan is a reality now and their is a need for us to have peaceful realtionship with each other.. Happy independence day in advance.. Regards, ManishRecommend

  • Tommy Gunn

    The “Two Nation Theory” failed miserably when the Muslims of East Pakistan were forced to create another independent nation as a result of oppression & atrocities committed by their so called Muslim brothers in West Pakistan. The “Two Nation Theory” is miserably failing everyday in Pakistan when Sunnis, Shias, Baloch, Pathans, Sindhis etc kill each other despite all being Muslims. The experiment of Pakistan has miserably failed.Recommend

  • Parvez

    Intelligently written…….the logic is understandable and could be taken a few steps further to convey that we are all citizens of the world……nice but very utopian.Recommend

  • genesys

    To Historian Arnold Toynbee there is a Greater India going all the way to Indonesia,many parts of Central Asia which was Gandhara/Buddhist civilizationRecommend

  • 19640909rk .

    “On the other hand, the Indian right-wingers think that since Pakistan became a separate state, their country was “partitioned” and an unforgivable sin has been committed”.

    dear sir, this is pure lies. No Hindu opposes the creation of Pakistan, believe me. In fact they are happy that they have created it. They oppose the Muslims who stayed back.Recommend

  • Anand

    Thats really appreciated.
    Such an attitude should come from each heart of two nations. Let’s celebrate independence day commonly from Terrorism.Recommend

  • Saadi

    And for similar reasons, Pakistan’s identity is also not negated due to the creation of BD. Pakistan, BD and India are a reality and we all should accept this reality and move on. Whether the founding fathers intended these countries to be the way they are now is immaterial.Recommend

  • Komal S

    I like the spirit of this article. But i have to disagree that Pakistan and Bangladesh of today do not carry forward the Indian ethos. Look at how systematically you have brought down your minority population. You carry your Islamic identity and purged any Indian identity. The Indian right wing, is just trying to stop the caste politics that has unfortunately been followed in India for last 70 years. There are lots of people in India who want caste based political dispensation for their own narrow political gains. BJP is trying to being Backward class, Dalits and so called forward castes under one umbrella and that scares a lot of people. Congress party cannot still comprehend how the forward castes are still supporting a backward class leader like Modi.Recommend

  • Mr. Ok

    So this is the agenda of PMLN (as you are paid writer of PMLN) to destroy the independence of Pakistan. We are not indian (Sorry). We are Pakistani onlyRecommend

  • Fahim

    First of all stop spreading sectarian hatred in name of Saudi wahabi. I have met with several Arabs, Turks, Persians and Indians. I have found several similarities as well as differences, whats new if you have few similarities with Indians ?Recommend

  • Memona

    Our Indian identity is because the name India was derived from indus river which flows through Pakistan, name Hindu was derived from sindh, ancient indus valley civilization is in present Pakistan, first university, Sikhism and Hinduism all originated in what is now pakistan including Aryan invasion settlement. So technically we the people of pakistan are real Indians as the name and history of sub continent belongs to our land.
    I would never associate myself with present day India bcuz of their ideology plus they are living on borrowed name and history from present day Pakistan. What gives them right to keep the name India?Recommend

  • Akbar Sait

    Raza Habib this blog is a perfect description of this very profound oneness of the subcontinent which all its people, Indian Pakistani and Bangladeshi as well as the smaller countries’ could benefit from. It is sad that the political classes of all these countries generally, seem to have little appreciation of its value or potential.Recommend

  • John Fernades

    Bravo . You indeed have every right to assert and claim the legacy of India even if you are a pakistani. This heritage belongs to everyone born in the indian subcontinent as long as one identifies with it like you do.Recommend

  • Muneeb Kazmi

    disagree from the core, you went to far to show balance & liberalism
    calling yourself Pakistani Indian what is wrong with youRecommend

  • Kushal

    No takes for such a peaceful message?Recommend

  • Milford

    There he said it. A well thought out and courageous and coming of age understanding of oneself and more.Recommend

  • PatelPara

    LOL. this is how you get popular when you are allowed to write such articles around 14th August.Recommend

  • Parvez

    Second attempt at a comment :
    Intelligently said and the logic is appealing ….. you could take it two steps further and claim we are all citizens of the world and you would be right…..a bit utopian in concept but right all the same.Recommend

  • zeeshan

    what a pathetic piece of essay. The cancer of Akhand Bharat is deeply spreading in the minds of liberals misplaced in Pakistan.Recommend

  • skdking

    What? You sound idealistic. But confused. Can you send me links to more of your writings. I want to read you more to appreciate you better.Recommend

  • Ahmar

    Nice writing. India will always be a part of our identity and history even if we are separate countries today. I like to think of the analogy of Britain and Europe. Even though UK has left the EU, that does not mean they don’t consider themselves Europeans anymore.Recommend

  • Dhamdev

    All inhabitants of the subcontinent should appreciate our common heritage.Recommend

  • grace

    Pretty disrespectful to half of Pakistan in KPK and Baluchistan who have more in common with Afghanistan and Central Asia. The last time I heard, Pakistan has its own identity, history and culture. You may like hanging out with your Indian friends in the US but that doesn’t make Pakistanis closer to Indians. I love to hang out with my Italian girlfriends and Greek friends. Just because Pakistan was part of Greek Empire, I don;t want to say I am Pakistani Greek or Pakistani Italian. I just want to be Pakistani- thank you very much! Learn to respect the nation and if not, just lay off.Recommend

  • Thomas

    Ye rite.Recommend

  • Milford

    It’s not similarities. If you are talking about similarities, human have generic similarities even with flies. The larger context he was trying to prove is your culture and your identity. Just like many Austrian called themselves German even though they are in different country because of the shared Germanic culture, traditions and whatnot. Don’t limit yourself in just what you perceived.Recommend

  • Milford

    Here comes the mentally deranged girl with her cognitive dissonant argumentRecommend

  • Milford

    Lie to yourself;
    Be the none.
    And wind up none.Recommend

  • Arunanshu M

    So who do you identify with? A Pakistan with no history, identity or culture before the 12th century Muslim invasions? Your ancestors were Hindu. Your grandfather and his ancestors were Indians. you forget your roots?Recommend

  • COLVINOD

    Great write. I agree with every word. In fact the entire glorious history of Muslims of this subcontinent is spread from Kerala where to Kashmir. The Cheraman Juma Mosque is a mosque in Methala, Kodungallur Taluk, Thrissur District in the Indian state of Kerala. Built in 629 AD, it is the first mosque in India. It was built by Malik Deenar, an Arab propagator of Islam. And at that time PUBH Hazrat Mohammad was alive. Dargah Hazrat Bal in Kashmir contains a relic, the Moi-e-Muqqadas, believed by many Muslims of Kashmir to be a hair of Muhammad. From land of Bulle Shah to the land of Bauls (Banladesh) are groups of mystic minstrels who have a great role in spread of Islam unto the far east of subcontinent. From Baber to the last Moughal King Emperor Bahadur Shah Zafer. One of the finest language of the world ‘urdu’ was born on the streets of Delhi. We do have a common heritage history culture and it will remain so.Recommend

  • COLVINOD

    I wonder if you know Baluchistan voted to be a part of India and Badshah Khan was advised by Mr. Gandhi to join PakistanRecommend

  • Ab Rar

    Did not deserve to be published. Living in a white society I find it amazing at times how white people can distinguish between an indian and a Pakistani just by looking at them, n ur still an indian. Wonder why US and Canadians dont write like what uv written.Recommend

  • Ishaal

    my God. just read the first few lines and the love author has shown for india felt sooo strong that didnt feel like reading further… i wonder why he does not move there with his entire family. no one will miss you sir. be another adnan sami and live in peace. let us live in peace too.. i wonder if u could ever write such sentiments with such passion for Pakistan ever in ur life. would be a real challenge for u i guess.Recommend

  • Patwari

    “…from the 12 century [onward] Muslim invasions….”
    With all due respects that’s nearly a 1000+ years of culture,
    identity and history [which really goes back to 7th century AD]
    And, no, her ancestors may not, necessarily have been hindus.
    You just surmised that. They could have been Parsis, or Buddhists
    or practiced the ancient Persian/Parthian or Aryan religions.
    For some ‘unknown’ reasons, all hindus think that anyone living
    in Bharat prior to the Muslim Invasions, was hindu, automatically.
    Actually her grandfather and ancestors were citizens of the British
    Raj ! Therefore British citizens ! That is the legal definition. Before
    that, they were part of the Muslim Mughal Empire.
    In Hong Kong they were all British citizens, holders of British passports. Until Hong Kong was given back to the Chinese by the. British. The rich and those who could afford it moved to England, or Canada, or Australia. [That’s why you have a lot of Chinese in western Canada and Australia. Even Malaysia, Singapore.
    Hope this helps you. Doubt it very much that it will. What with
    Hindutva and Ghar Wapsi….and ultra extreme nationalism….Recommend

  • Sane

    Yes, India shall remain part of our identity as Muslims ruled India for 800 years. How can be a land forgotten, on which Muslims ruled for 800 years.Recommend

  • RHR

    At least read the article till the end!Recommend

  • Peeyush Prasad

    I think this point needs to be appreciated more. The author refers to not ‘India’ the country, but something more abstract which includes shared history, food and subcultures.

    My current conclusion is that people in the subcontinent are very emotional, retain long grudges and like simple narratives. We then support these even to the detriment of our own children and future. I really hope we can mature as a people, and work for the greater good of the subcontinent.

    Kudos to the author, he always has a very balanced perspective.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    800 years is myth. British got India from Marathas & Sikhs not Muslims. By 1707 Muslim rule was reduced to Dilli city. Even before that Muslim rule was sporadic. Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    In 2004 to 2014 Congrez rule by daily scam $ 1.7 Trillions were looted, most of the money landed in Western Bank and Tax haven islands in western hemisphere. Recommend

  • Pure ind

    the problem with Pakistanis is that they only think that northern belt of India is complete India. The Hindus civilization is as old in the north as down south the oldest languages in the subcontinent are Sanskrit & Tamil the temples built down south are as old as north which is more than 5000 yrs old. Recommend

  • Patwari

    Balochistan was [and still is] a tribal area during the British Raj.
    With numerous tribes having their own territories. Like Talpurs,
    Bugtis [different clans] Marris, Lehris, Mazaris, Mengals etc.
    All ethnic Balochs, all Muslims. all with their own tribal leaders.
    Warring, feuding and raiding each other. [A Baloch could ride
    70 miles a day on his best mare, when on a raid. As an aside.]
    With perpetually shifting alliances, allegiances and blood feuds.
    They were not under one entity or nawab or king, who decided
    to join hindu Bharat at partition. Far from it. Including the so called ‘alleged’ advice from the Great Mahatmaji….to so called Badshah…Recommend

  • oats

    Pakistanis are Asians but a mix of influences. It only has some commonality with North Indians like Punjab but the rest of India is very different. What about Tamily Nadu, Bihar or other places in India which have nothing in common with Pakistan.We can call ourselves Asians but I think you are confused.Recommend

  • oats

    Let’s talk instead about the oneness of the world. Forget about being just Asians. We are all the same: Black, White Brown and Yellow. We are all human beings and all the same !Recommend

  • RHR

    Like your leader Imran you are also on a high!Recommend

  • Rajiv

    That day will never come.We will make sure of that.Recommend

  • Memona

    I deem area around indua river as an important part of sub continent history where early settlers resided including Aryans.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Before that India needs to become completely Bharat with Dharmik culture. North DharmaShala/Lhasa and its land has more in common with India. Legions of ME wrongly equated with Dharma, are drag on Bharat. India needs economic and security union with all Dharmik people of Asia. This is bound to happen. Communist Party of China will lose its hold on China in the next decade. Let us bring back Nepal, Sri Lanka and Myanmar. Recommend

  • Fahim

    Actually you seems to be foreigner from your name that is why you saying ‘It’s not similarities.’ We have several similarities with Arabs, Persian and Turks. Our food. names, our way of life, our religion, our events happiness, our events of sadness etc are same and different from Hindus.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    What is Aryan? Dravid means south. American Dixie is derivative of Dravid. Aryan was invented by EIC colonizer babus to fool natives. Arya in Sanskrit means noble of deeds and character. Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    There is Ganesh on Indonesian Rs and their national carrier’s name is Garuda. They are more Hindu than secular India. Civilized world is giving up legions used to enslave, colonize and creating terror lands like Pakistan and IS. Almost a decade old trend https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/us-views-god-and-life-are-turning-hindu-79073%3famp=1Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    You r living in colonial era. There was no Aryan race and it has been debunked linguistically, genetically and archaeologically. Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Bangalis were in majority, so technically West Bangladesh violently separated itself from East Bangladesh by killing 3 Million, gang raping half a million and evicting from their homes 11 Million Bangalis.Recommend

  • Pure ind

    Hope u get educated correctly.Recommend

  • Pure ind

    You guys forgot your roots which was up to Indonesia & Afghanistan down south up to srilanka.do you know the first mosque was not built in north but in south Kerala by Arabs.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    You got carried away in typing last para. Hindu is not Indian word. It was invented by Persians because they had difficulty in pronouncing S of Sindhu.

    What is Twa? T/Ta = That and Wa=I/Here&Now. Hindutwa, if you want to interprete from your level of consciousness, simply means the soil, the water, the wind/air here&now nurtures us is divine and by revering it we can reach to That/universal consciousness.
    Recommend

  • RHR

    Thank you! You have 100% understood what I meant to say!Recommend

  • RHR

    Thank you and you are spot onRecommend

  • RHR

    And I hope ET does not censor my comment and they should not because so many times you have called me a lifafa and it was published.
    Basically you are a dumb and shallow person. This article was NOT anti Pakistan. It was appealing to a broader Indian identity which is some what abstract. It is like appealing to Egypt and Jordan that although they are separate states but at the same time, they are part of Arab world and have an Arabian identity. Or appealing to Germany and France ( who btw have a bitter history) that although they are separate countries but at the same time they have a European identity which can bring them together.
    You are total idiot and like most of PTI supporters are devoid of understanding nuance and complexity.
    FYI I am a PPP supporter though supportive of NS in the way Asma Jehangir isRecommend

  • Milford

    Well, you are too twisted even to see the reality. You are Indian. Indian to the core. Go check your DNA and race history.Recommend

  • Ahmar

    So you think we don’t have much in common with Tamils/Biharis therefore should not call ourselves Indians. Yet we should call ourselves Asians even though we have even less in common with Chinese, Japanese, Filipinos ,Arabs, Turks, Uzbeks, Tajiks etc?

    I am not concerned with what you call yourself, but don’t discard and destroy the history of the land you live in today. Pakistan’s history does not start in 1947. It does not start in 711. It is much older. One of the first human civilizations ever built were built here.

    The white, European Americans in USA recognize the Mayas, Incas and Aztec civilizations. The Caucasian Anglo-Saxon-Germanic people that populate Europe today had nothing to do with the Roman civilization, yet they proudly consider Roman and Greek histories their own. Egypt is populated by Arabs today, yet they own up to Egyptian history of more than 5000 years.

    Only in Pakistan have I seen such disdain and contempt for our own historical identity and attempts to wipe it out completely…to start from scratch.

    If all you can see is ethnic/language difference then why even have Pakistan? Pashtuns are as different from Sindhis as they are from Biharis. Punjabis have as much in common with Balochis as they have with Tamils. If you are incapable of looking at the bigger picture beyond ethnicity then obviously my words will make little sense and confuse you.Recommend

  • Patwari

    Your inferiority complex is showing. Sorry.
    Not to worry, it goes back thousand of years.
    Kind a like a genetic thing. More DNA ingrained.
    All your brothers have it, in one form or another.
    Requires intensive and extensive therapy. No cure.Recommend

  • Patwari

    Considering that you are a hindu hiding behind a Western name.
    Tells a lot about your prevailing ‘inferiority complex’. About par.
    It runs in all your Hindustani brothers, has a lot to due with the
    Caste System. Which was imposed by the Aryans on the hindu
    population to control them and assign them tasks. Get the work done.
    See, even then, there were millions of hindus and not many Aryans.
    Going back to the Aryan invasion, Hindustan has always wanted
    and needed a strong foreign iron fisted no nonsense ruler. The Aryans
    and other invaders, the Lodhis, the Ghaznavis, the Shahs and the
    Mughals fulfilled that. Easily. Hindia always needed a strong master.
    Then came the British…and after independence 70 years later, new overlords…Americans.Recommend

  • Patwari

    OK. Fine. Good. Well. Peachy. You are not a member of the
    Bozo Brothers Saad and Dar Circus and Travelling Show.
    You are a lobbyist for them. You work for Ivanka Sharif, who
    has a whole media wing 119 person strong. You are number 120.
    So, if you write blogs, be prepared to read all kind of comments.
    And you are a mureed of Mohtarma? Mr 10%? Count Zardari of
    Paris! The Party from Garhi Khuda Baksh! Sister city of Mohenjo
    Daro! Same people with a starving looted kingdom in Sindh?
    By the way, can we have a brotherly like identity with Bhutanese?
    Only 25 people live there, 15 monks, in a Buddhist monastery,
    clutching a mountain side, 3 yak herders 2 farmers 5 visiting
    tourists. Oooops! And 12 yaks! The Happiness Quotient in Bhutan
    is really high. Good place. No worries.
    Second choice, Japan, we can be brothers with them? They are in
    Asia? Right?…What about Fiji Islands? Lots of hindus there.
    Surrounded by the ocean. Lots of coconuts. Hindustani foods. Idlis, dosas, catch a fish, eat it. Eat beef. Nobody will lynch you…..Recommend

  • Arunanshu M

    No use reasoning with you Patwari. You are schooled in the Pakistani school of historyRecommend

  • Arunanshu M

    When I say Hindu, I mean the ancient way of life, religion and beliefs around the region of Sindhu which spanned across ancient Khorasan, and central Asia. Hindu was a name coined by Arabs. In reality it was the people with their unique culture and practices which also encompasses fire worship of the Zoroastrians (Parsi) and the yoga philosophy of Buddhism. Hinduism claims both cultures within it. Even Arabia or Arabasthan as the Vedic text Shiv Puran mentions was part of this so called Hindu hemisphere. I only meant that you and your fellow Pakistanis carry the legacy of this ancient land, its culture and practices. You are in fact the inheritors of sanatan dharma or the ageless way of life which unfortunately you have forgotten and imagine yourself as British descent. I must thank you that you did not claim an Arab descent at least like so many other Pakistanis I know.Recommend

  • Patwari

    Who is Asma Jehangir? Mother Theresa of lawyers?Recommend

  • Patwari

    Comment was edited by auditors at ET.
    ‘….you have a thin skin. You lash out at commenters….’Recommend

  • Memona

    To me Aryans were just early settlers in present pakistan who migrated to present Pakistan through Khyber pass from central Asian. We can’t deny the migration of immigrants from central Asian into sub continent.Recommend

  • Patwari

    Did not claim British descent. Read the
    comment againRecommend

  • RHR

    Really! Its you who has a thin skin because you are always here ranting!
    Bhai learn to ignore in life.
    Third class typical PTI supporterRecommend

  • RHR

    She is way better than a loser like youRecommend

  • Salim Alvi

    British migrated to the so called “New world,” since they had York in their old land so now we see New York in “New World.” Do you see Kashi, Haridwar, Hastinapur, Prayag in Central Asia, Russia or Ukrain?

    When European had to recreate their past wiped out by Romanization of EU natives to rationalize their loot and plunder of colonies they invented Aryan race of super humans. Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    CPEC truckers have not yet arrived for night stop?Recommend

  • Pure ind

    Hope u do some fact finding b4 commenting rather than ending up some clueless just giving helpless justificationsRecommend

  • Salim Alvi

    When did Yog become Boudh? Yog philosophy was taught first by Adi Guru, Shiv. Yogasanas are reveled to many sages. Sanatan Dharma is open architecture like open source Unixes. Boudh is Linux of Sanatan Dharm Unix.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Theresa was mother to none. She was brought after devastation of Bangal famine purposely caused by Churchil’s war effort in 1943 when 4 Million Bangalis perished. She was Albanian, which is criminal den of EU today and much more so when Theresa left. She should have brought “Good News” of Jesus dieing for our sins to her own people of Albania. Recommend

  • Patwari

    Nope. Not a foreigner at all.
    A true blue hindu in disguise
    under a foreign name.
    His English phrasing is wrong.
    Not foreign English at all. DesiRecommend

  • Patwari

    Comment edited by Hindia loving auditors at ET.Recommend

  • Patwari

    UCLA and Harvard would disagree with you. So sorry.Recommend

  • Patwari

    Ignore? So sorry. No can do.
    You wrote ‘…people have multiple identities…’
    Say, look in your bag of tricks and see if you have
    one that says ‘chump’. [now that is polite, compared
    to the foul language and epithets like:- idiot, stupid, loser.
    that you are allowed to use by ET.]Recommend

  • Memona

    Im sorry you find my comments clueless about early migration to sub continent. How do you think we all ended up in sub continent? Our ancestors migrated to this land.Recommend

  • Memona

    Whatever makes you happy.Recommend

  • rationalist

    A poignant and very well articulated article. As they say, “you can take the boy out of the country but can’t ever take the country out of the boy”.

    While I feel the emotion of the author’s thesis, unfortunately, Pakistan is too far gone in the direction of primitive culture, thanks to the false history, bigotry and obscurantism taught to children through institutionalized Pakistan Studies, now for four generations.

    Recommend

  • rationalist

    Good points. HIndutva, to me means exactly the sentiment that the author has espoused. It is our cultural identity from ancient times.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Brohi of Balochistan is Tamil derivative, as Punjabi is of Prakrit which is colloquial Sanskrit.Recommend