Dear men, a short skirt, bikini and even a naked female is not an invitation

Published: January 5, 2017
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An Indian man helps a woman (C) leave as police personnel try to manage crowds during New Year's Eve celebrations in Bangalore on January 1, 2017. PHOTO: AFP

India is in the news once again, and for all the wrong reasons yet again. An instance of mass molestation in Bangalore on New Year’s Eve has put the country under the radar. An estimated 60,000 people gathered on MG Road and Brigade road to join in the celebrations ushering in 2017. Reports state that members of the crowd turned unruly and a large number of women were harassed and groped.

And as has happened previously, ministers have been making asinine statements while trying to shift the blame from the perpetrators of the crime to the victims. Ministers have been known to blame western clothing and western culture for incidents of harassment and rape, while the prime reasons remain unaddressed. While victims are blamed and shamed, molesters are let off the hook.

As a woman who has been harassed multiple times, I can assure you that women are harassed irrespective of their attire. How else does one explain raping an 11-month-old baby in diapers for two hours? A woman clad in a sari is as vulnerable to an attack as a woman wearing a skirt. It’s not the attire that is to blame – it is the patriarchal and misogynistic mind-set that is responsible for the sorry plight of women in this country. The responsibility needs to be placed on the perpetrators and not the victims.

Taking it a step further, even social media patrons took to different platforms to express their disgust and disappointment towards the incident, and while all the women were up in arms about the shameful incident, some men took it upon themselves to state that all men are not rapists or molesters, making the hash tag #NotAllMen spread like wild fire.

We are all aware that all men don’t harass women, but such social media trends are distracting and take away from the issue at hand. The focus needs to be centred on the fact that instances of molestation are on the rise and that our cities are becoming increasingly unsafe for women. Their security should be the prime concern at this point in time. A man who protests his innocence and claims to have a good moral character at a time like this comes across as an apathetic individual unable to grasp the seriousness of the situation. What such men don’t realise is that they are speaking from a place of male privilege, a privilege that comes with an inherent set of benefits that make it difficult for men to comprehend and empathise with the lot of women. This unearned privilege is a part of the reason why women face violence and abuse and also the reason why men remain indifferent to the sorry plight of women.

A short skirt, bikini and even a naked female is not an invitation to men. A woman who enjoys having a drink is not asking for it. Bollywood might try to convince you otherwise, but no does indeed mean no. Unless a woman explicitly expresses her desire to have a sexual relationship with a man, it is safe to assume that she is not interested. Molesters ought to realise that they can’t control what women wear or how they behave and use that as an excuse to justify their actions and twisted mind-sets. Doing so only makes them come across as barbaric individuals with little to no self-control.

Indians (and I suspect most of world) are busy teaching their daughters ways to avoid getting molested when what they actually need to do is teach their sons not to rape. Lessons in consent need to start at an early age. Instead of teaching girls to dress appropriately, boys need to be taught that permission needs to be sought before they attempt to touch another individual and that consent can be withdrawn at any time. It doesn’t matter if the woman is a girlfriend, a friend or even the wife. A woman has the ultimate right over the body.

Karnataka home minister, G Parameshwara’s reaction to the Bangalore incident was disappointing to say the least. “These kinds of things do happen” was what he had to say by way of justification.

Sure, they do.

But should they?

Instead of brushing off incidents of this nature as inconsequential, authorities need to take the perpetrators to task and address such security concerns. Incidents of sexual violence are laughed off because they are perceived as instances of boys indulging in harmless fun. This widespread apathy towards victims of sexual assault only perpetuates the problem further as it normalises and trivialises sexual violence. Patriarchy is so deeply entrenched in society that our collective mind-sets have legitimised such treatment that is meted out to women.

A large chunk of the populace believes that women ought to dress, behave and live according to guidelines set by the male members of society and any deviations / transgressions from the standards set should result in punishment. It is appalling that subjugating women is still considered acceptable and is normalised by many around the globe. Newer generations will only imbibe the values we disseminate.

Unfortunately, the unsound and unreasonable voice tend to be the loudest.

Amrita Singh

Amrita Singh

Passionate about trekking and travelling, the writer has just moved to Belfast, UK. Her obsession with the Himalayas grows every passing year and she keeps going back for more.

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • wb

    “These kinds of things do happen”

    That is absolutely correct. To hell with pseudo feminism who use emotions rather than brains.

    We’re talking about a New Year’s revelry here where mostly low lives, worthless vagabonds to to spend their worthless time in a shallow celebrations of aging days. We’re not talking about a literature festival, university convocation, cousin’s marriage, film festival, or Lok Sabha session.

    We’re talking a rogue event where even decent men don’t go. Most men who attend these events are drunkards, rowdy revelers, vagabonds, thugs. No decent men go there. I’m afraid of going to such events in India lest I get mugged or something stolen and I’m a physically strong man.

    The law and order is broken in this country. And any sane human being will stay away from such events.

    What do you expect?

    You’re a fool if you go to a bee infested garden with pheromones on your nose. You’re a fool if you go to a bear infested forest with bacon on your hips. You’re a fool to go to a ISIS infested village with a cross around your neck and a bible in your hand. You’re a fool if you go to a wolf infested wasteland with a chicken tied around your head. You’re a fool if you go to a new year public event in India and expect not to get robbed, mugged or molested.

    It’s called common sense.Recommend

  • Ahmar

    Two guys get drunk in a bar and start a brawl. One of them lands more punches. The second one ends up in the gutter after getting beaten up.

    A smart policeman comes in and says, “Both of you share the responsibility for this fight.”

    The feminists lose their mind. “How dare you blame the victim?!? Shame on you policeman, politician, patriarchal puppet!”Recommend

  • Asad Shairani

    Most people in Pakistan would actually concur with the minister who has pinned most of the blame on the women. Wait for the “this is why Islam asks women to stay at home” preachers to show up.Recommend

  • stevenson

    Unfortunately India has a long way to go before it shakes its title of Rape Capital of the World. Men in India need to be taught by their families how to behave with women but the problem is that women have little status in Hindu religion and culture.Recommend

  • Salman Shareef

    Would you please elaborate whether the clothes are worn to cover up the body or show off the body ?Recommend

  • Alka Rim

    Eve-teasing has been occurring since times immemorial. Mahabharata has a reference to Draupadi’s ‘vastraharan’ (thanks to Lord Krishna, a knight in shining armour who rescued the damsel in distress), and Ramayana has anecdotal ‘Sitaharan’ scene where Ravan in the guise of a deer entices Sita to transgress the Lakhsman-rekha. Unfortunately, in this Kalyug there are no Lord Krishnas and no Lakhmans to safeguard chastity of contemporary Draupadis and Sitas.
    One of the major culprits is movie celabrities like Sunny Leonis, Rakhi Savants, et. al who try to compensate their lack talent with glorification of cheap sex. They send the sex-starved youths’ testosterone raging. Their minds become foggy and they lose all sense of discerning right from wrong. Some of these guys will not even stop at incest. As such you can imagine, not attacking nonrelated women is a far cry. So it is not the provocation by women’s attire but the uncontrollable basic instinct of Homo sapiens. And because most cases get forgotten without any consequences, men are emboldened. The need of the hour is stringent laws, criminalization of these nefarious activities, and implementation of the laws regardless of the culprits’ social status or being related to high-placed influential persons.Recommend

  • Khalid

    Molestation becoming a signature of Indian societyRecommend

  • hp kumar

    You r writing this blog where women’s right is abysmal. women dressed in western clothes at 2’oclock night boozing,partying with their boyfriend out on streets among 60,000 people ,can you imagine this scene in pakistan.I m not defending what had happened on new yr’s night.But pl understand that we have come long a way.Women r breaking new shackles..thats good thing..In india if there r men who oppose them ,there r crores of men who support individual freedom and liberty.Pakistani women have yet to claim their basic right.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    And pakistan is not even a country ..Its a piece of sold land to china.Recommend

  • Mehdi Mudassir

    “Dear men, a short skirt, bikini and even a naked female is not an invitation” , then what is?Recommend

  • Waqas

    She is not talking about freedom. Here a problem has been hi-lighted where an individual who was not even partying with her boyfriend would be molested just because she was walking alone.

    You need to focus on the problem & imagine what happens if it keeps growing instead of celebrating freedom of women in India & comparing it to Pak. The 2 societies are entirely different in many aspects.

    Come to Pak & I’ll show you what freedom & partying is called here. You’ll forget your country.Recommend

  • Arsal

    Why always drag Islam?
    Ok, forget Islam because for you it oppresses women, right.

    How would you explain a women to protect herself in such situation where you know hungry bandits are at large searching for a target?Recommend

  • Sane

    This again justifies and cement India as RAPE COUNTRY of the world. Banglore is known as a city of educated ones. If this happened in Banglaore, then think what is done in other parts of India. India is not safe for women specially foreigners.Recommend

  • Ravian

    “we dress to impress”, so how you dress does have impact on others.Recommend

  • raj

    Yes its not an invitation but if you know there are animals out there, you would not want those animals to understand. Rather, you would have to pulled yourself out of the danger. Girls in India are not even trying to understand the fact that the education that you see in western world (that makes men stop staring at girls) is missing in India and thanks to Bollywood, which is so much trying to mimic Hollywood in sexual context, is fuelling the fire. Men in India are still uneducated and when they watch these movies they go crazy. Now India need to change the youth it has so in future, these things don’t happen but for the time being, you have to be vigilant and stop being crazy saying, “we can go naked and don’t be animal that you are”. Grow up and follow the culture that India brags about so much.Recommend

  • Allah Rakha

    It depends how you think and view someone who is wearing clothes, because the ladies wearing burqa are not safe if such type of people are around.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    Growing problem?Rather I see growing freedom for women..As far as pakistani women r concerned they cant walk alone on streets i suppose..One Indian women who travelled to pakistan ,she said she was forced to wear shalwar kammez and dupatta.No Bindi and saree r allowed.She couldnot wear clothes which exposed here neck bone..should i write more.??I often objected to indian author writing blog here…You r not serious and you would never be..It provides rather an opportunity to bash india..You have more pressing issue of honor killing and women empowerment.I have never seen an article from pakistani people.Heck even you laws based on hudood prince support crime against women.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    And your county is a failed state ..Do you know that?Recommend

  • Fahim

    Keeping a part what should a women wear just wearing some thing odd is definitely not an invitation and rape has no justification.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    “Here a problem has been hi-lighted where an individual who was not even
    partying with her boyfriend would be molested just because she was
    walking alone.” her boyfriend would be molested just because she was
    walking alone ..And Indian women willl start wearing burqua and put inside home from now. Keep on thinking..You had having same perception when delhi gang rape happened…Recommend

  • Milind A

    In your Muslim world, men are not safe either. They two get raped by perverts, who either cannot satisfy their lust for women (locked up) or their lust goes out of control… try to read objective publications about these kind of incidents in Muslim world. They’re far more than what we see in India, except that these are not reported. BTW yes, we do have this problem in India and we’re raising our voice and will work towards resolution… You figure how you’re going to solve yours – deny it or sitting back and attributing it to God’s will (Inshallah)…Recommend

  • Milind A

    You mean to say nothing of this sort happens in your country??? Let me break this news to you – its far more, except that its not reportedRecommend

  • Asad Khan

    Dear Blogger,
    a short skirt, bikini and even a naked female is nothing BUT an invitation.Recommend

  • Sane

    In piece of sold land to china is does not have immoral and terrorist population. You must be ashamed to dis-track the discussion.Recommend

  • Sane

    Do this in west and you will not be seen again.Recommend

  • Sane

    India is falling morally and economically. Shame on people of India specially those who try to justify this mass molestation.Recommend

  • Sane

    Matter and subject is related to morality of Indian nations, which is on nose dive. You must be ashamed. There is no discussion about Pakistan women, so limit yourself to Indian people.Recommend

  • Sane

    Shame to Indians specially those justifying this shameful incident. The mass molestation in your country happened coz my country is a failed state?!!! You yourself is a failed state. In failed state only there are such incidents and people are killed on beef eating. India has become NO GO COUNTRY and people have become beast. The RAPE COUNTRY, the India is NO GO PLACE for tourists specially women.Recommend

  • raj

    go to karachi or lahore and u will be amazed by freedom and the way women go out alone and the way men cant even touch themRecommend

  • Sane

    Are you an investigative journalist? Or reports in whole world comes to you only.Recommend

  • Sane

    In this way every part of India is Bee infested garden, bear infested forest and wolf infested wasteland. You say that if any woman goes in a new year public event, she would be robbed, mugged or molested. May be she is raped in public as well. I am amazed to read your justifications. You mean to say in a so-called secular and liberal society as India boasts, women are not safe if they are in public. You are giving message to Indian women and all women of the World: NEVER GO OUT IN PUBLIC IF YOU ARE A WOMAN. There is no place in India for minorities and list is now updated with ‘women’.Recommend

  • Sane

    Forget about Pakistani women, talk about Indian women. What you have done with them? Aren’t you ashamed?Recommend

  • Sane

    Yes, men do not touch women in Pakistan in public, as Pakistani men are not pervert or psychopath. They have moral values and have respect for women. Do not indulge in unnecessary debate. Accept weakness of your society and take corrective measures.Recommend

  • BANA POST

    wow look who is speaking ? pakis are speaking abt India what to say Its all about out bad time or Bad karma What else ?Recommend

  • BANA POST

    I think you are talking about your Father and brother No problem as long as you talk about IndiansRecommend

  • kaiser

    Both men would have been killed in couple of days if such things happened in Pakistan.Recommend

  • OSD

    As much as I feel for the protection of women’s rights, we would be closing our eyes to the other side of the argument if we do not work to protect ourselves better. That flip side is in the fact that our cloths do make a statement, and a skirt makes a totally different statement from what an abaya does. This is the same as when we decide to vacation in Paris instead of Aleppo.Recommend

  • Asad Khan

    Really? then why I see a dejected female snap on an advertising saying “I say yes to a drink, no for sex” in all tubes across England every-time when new year comes…..Recommend

  • AJ

    Just like notallmen trend, your point is irrelevant. The issue is serious enough without dragging India Pakistan debate in it.Recommend

  • Asad Malik

    You dont have anything solid to say and than you jump on the bandwagon.What are you?Recommend

  • Ahmar

    The most real and honest comment on the topic. Salutes to you man.Recommend

  • Ahmar

    Not just in India. This would happen anywhere. In the liberal west, the secular India or even an Islamist Pakistan. Out in the streets late at night, dancing and “celebrating”, in revealing or tight clothes. The guys are half drunk. Not exactly in their sense. No one knows what type of people they are.

    Heck, its a dangerous situation even for guys. Who knows when a fight might break out? I wouldn’t go out without some buddies as backup myself.

    Now feminists will be screaming. You bloody Misogynists. How dare you blame the victim? I can only shake my head to this silliness. Why knowingly put yourself in a dangerous position? Some women in our times have truly lost their heads.Recommend

  • Sarah

    I don’t know who gives you such misinformation but I have many relatives in India who come to attend family weddings here in Pakistan every other year and they wear sarees openly. Not once were they told to wear a dupatta or shalwar kameez by anyone. You do realize Pakistanis wear sarees too? Women wear all kinds of clothes here, from burqas to eastern to western wear.Recommend

  • wb

    You have a fertile imagination. But NO. I’m not saying anything that you’re saying. you clearly either failed to read my comment or comprehend it. Understandable given the low standards of education in Pakistan.

    As far as minorities go…minorities in India have more safety and freedom than a punjabi, Wahabi Sunni in the heart of Lahore.

    Any woman can go to cinemas, malls, ceremonies, public rallies, press meets, literature festivals, flea markets, colleges, schools, offices, temples etc etc.

    Just avoid new year public gatherings, holi celebrations with unknown people and a few more places. And this is equally applicable to men.Recommend

  • Pure Ind

    Then does that mean if a boy roams wearing Bermuda & Vest is inviting to be raped by bacha bazi perverts ?? Its as simple as it sounds its a Womans body & its her right to choose with whom she wants to share it…Recommend

  • Pure Ind

    First of all stop making statements that men in Pakistan are saints !! Oh come on even we read reports of Bacha Bazi incidents in Pakistan were even young boys are not safe, Young Hindu girls being kidnapped raped then forcefully converted & married off to old Muslim men, Brothers killing sisters in the name of honour killing (the balouch incident).
    Buddy no one is denying that what happened is wrong & the guilty needs to be punished, friend this is India were such cases get reported & investigated we dont follow Sharia law where a woman needs to find 5 eye witnesses too prove that she has been raped.Recommend

  • jeetainder

    Dear Readers,
    There are such beasts all over the world, its not India, Pakistan, or USA or UK. The inside of beasts comes out in the pit of darkness when there is no one around, so a gentle advise to all ladies, girls, women & even boys do what ever you want to do but out of glaring world eyes, because think wisely that ” har shaak pe shaitaan baitha hai anjaam ae mulk kya hoga”Recommend

  • Suraj

    These feminist are disease. There is no proof of mass molestation. If a men is attractive, he is just flirting. If a man is unattractive it is molestation. Women are no longer women of 1950. Men are no longer men of 1950. Equality hurts these feminist the most. Earn your own food, protect yourself girls. Probably you are gonna be strong independent alone women with lots of cats.Recommend

  • abhi

    Not only in pakishan but even when they go to other countries as refugee they do it.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    That girl continues..Pakistani men ogle a lot..These guys r cheap.They never met a woman in real life i guess.When it comes to treating women indian men have got bad reputation. But pakistani men certainly take the cake when it comes to mistreating women.the stark difference that women r not visible on roads tells you every thing about this country.she says .Her travel account is based on her visit to Lahor,Islamabad and peshawar…In peshawar,threat of abduction of hindu girl and never returning back is real..She was not allowed to go outside by her hostsRecommend

  • hp kumar

    Forget about Pakistani women..and why?Why Indian women concern you ..you citizen of a failed pariah state tell me..coz you have kept your women shut you think rest of the world will remain oblivious to the fact..you made your women behave like subordinate..Some of them r already helping you in terrorist activity in US and in other country ..Alhuda and IISU is breeding ground of terrorism..You pakistani men forcing them into terrorism rather being a normal human being.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    Go sell yourself to china…India is doing fine..lolRecommend

  • Sarah

    Why do you keep saying women are not visible on streets in pakistan? Have you first hand experienced this or is this the same woman giving you false information?Recommend

  • Insaan

    how wearing less cloths or exposing relates women empowerment. Many lonely places or happening places in big cities are not safe even for men. Self care is most imporatnt as there is huge deteoritaion in human nature. No one is safe here developed or undeveloped world.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    Oh yeah ..Let me come straight to you..R pakistani women allowed to wear Jeans and walk around the city.I m not telling that pakistani women dont wear thoses dresses.You cannot walk around on streets and in market place with such outfit.who cares what you r wearing inside home by the way.Thats the crux of matter.Pl dont bug us.Women like you r doing more harm to themselves then rising against prevalent misogyny..Recommend

  • hp kumar

    you r made believe that Islamic republic of pakistan is the holiest place to live??good luck to you…someday you will come to believe that there is a world outside paksitan as well..Recommend

  • Rex Minor

    As a woman who has been harassed multiple times, I can assure you that women are harassed irrespective of their attire. How else does one explain raping an 11-month-old baby
    in diapers for two hours? A woman clad in a sari is as vulnerable to an
    attack as a woman wearing a skirt. It’s not the attire that is to blame
    – it is the patriarchal and misogynistic mind-set
    that is responsible for the sorry plight of women in this country. The
    responsibility needs to be placed on the perpetrators and not the
    victims.

    The phenomina of the sexual assault on a child by a sick human mind can be explained by the Pscycholgist but every twenty minute regular rape in cities and villages has no explanation other than the unique phenomina in India namely the Bharatya culture it practices worshipping avatar Gods. She the female is not even safe from sexual violence in the home environment. The author has taken the courage to pen this phenomina, though several young married women have come forward before and complained publicly but to no avail, every twenty minutes complain of a rape continues. Indians need a revolution against their sex hungry Gods.

    Rex MinorRecommend

  • OSD

    You do realize this mass molestation and daily rape incidents occur in India?Recommend

  • Rex Minor

    We’re talking about a New Year’s revelry here where mostly low lives,worthless vagabonds to to spend their worthless time in a shallow
    celebrations of aging days. We’re not talking about a literature
    festival, university convocation, cousin’s marriage, film festival, or
    Lok Sabha session.
    We’re talking a rogue event where even decent
    men don’t go. Most men who attend these events are drunkards, rowdy
    revelers, vagabonds, thugs. No decent men go there. I’m afraid of going
    to such events in India lest I get mugged or something stolen and I’m a
    physically strong man.
    The law and order is broken in this country. And any sane human being will stay away from such events.

    Do you realise that you are talking about the majoriy and the Bharatya culture?

    Rex MinorRecommend

  • Bezukhov

    An invitation to ask, not an invitation to take.Recommend

  • Sane

    Terrorism? What happened in your city Bangalore is wort kind of terrorism and never occurred in any part of the world. This has terrorized ALL WOMEN OF INDIA including TOURIST that India is not safe for women. India is the country where WOMEN ARE RAPED IN PUBLIC. Read foreign newspapers and come out of shell.Recommend

  • Sane

    What a logic. Instead of accepting a heinous crime worst than terrorism of its nature which has shattered whole women population of India in general and other parts of the world, Indian trolls justify this a normal (rather nothing) coz Pakistan is this….that…. ha ….ha,,,,ha,,,,Same on you.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    It doesnot concern me anyway coz my country is already a failed state..All we pakistanis exist to harm and bash india?Recommend

  • BANA POST

    Point is taken But pakis you should not talk about my Great Nation You are not qualified to comment Set your house in order Then go for la la laaaa Until then dont rantRecommend

  • Sane

    It this burning? Your great nation of rapists and murderers with a terrorist PM. Wow….. A Hindoora says Paki, ha….ha….ha…..Recommend

  • BANA POST

    Dont wish to answer u I can type better than u But It would not be meaningful discussionRecommend

  • Asad Khan

    ..Permission / Denial for the ones who “ask”
    ..Resistance / Submission for the ones who “takes”

    There is nothing for the “Complainers / Whiners”

    Unfortunate but True Fact.Recommend

  • Sane

    You have ill knowledge and propagandist.Recommend

  • Sane

    Yes, there is world outside Pakistan, excluding India free from beasts and tyrants on roads.Recommend

  • Sane

    Wow…..all Indian trolls do meaningful discussions on these pages. Surprised as you don’t know what meaningful is meant for.Recommend

  • Sane

    I agree that Indian movies are one of the cause of immorality in masses of India.Recommend

  • BANA POST

    I stand by my opinion I have to decide to whom i should and not. Coming back to Indian trolls which are far better than your side .My conclusion is drawn on the basis my interaction with -Pakis and am regular reader of almost all Pakistan english news papers. “Pakis” thats how Americans called you Hope ET do not edit my commentRecommend

  • hp kumar

    And you wonder ..Why modi is after you guys?We indians will make you suffer even more buddy..You guys r too full of yourself .also you think that we Indians belong to some ancient part of the world.isnt it?.Thats surely not the case..Forget about any peace process…We r here and what you read on ET is our voice.Take it as it is.This is a deliberate attempt to bash Indians and girls like amrita singh donot belong to us.When it comes to pakistan we r united..You people r beast ,inhumane people not us ok..Pl listen from world what they say about you.Even your all weather friend china is shutting border..You people r the one who support osama and hafiz saeed ,not us …You can have whatever opinion about us we damn care coz for us you r too small a country who has history of being defeated .You pakistanis r too small in stature and your clout is nothing in world arena as compared to us .If this newspaper is publishing news from India,it shouldbe grateful in a way coz nothing sort of good thing happens in your country.They have nothing to publish else news of terrorism.you can continue bashing by the way ..But be informed in advance you r turning Indians even more vitriolic.Thats not gonna effect us,but will effect you.Recommend

  • raj

    u got to go and see to believe it..Recommend

  • raj

    i agree its not the holiest.. but the only point i was making was women in khi and other big cities roam freely as supposed to what media portrays in india. of course there aren’t many cases of mass molestation in pak as supposed to india.. stick to the topicRecommend

  • raj

    the only problem is u guys dream too much … modi is fooling u Recommend

  • raj

    do u even hear what u say.. read the post and talk sanelyRecommend

  • hp kumar

    Do you even know that india has muslim population?We r all aware of life style of you people.No hindu woman can walk alone across muslim dominated area.Dont you read their ridiculous comment here and there about women.Who will take you people seriously.Why should i not beleive my fellow indian tell me pl ?We have our own perspective.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    Hah..living in a cocoon ???Any pakistani who travelled to india will tell you with confidence that Indian women r lot more freer and experience better emanicipation.yours is a failed state.Half of your population doesnot go to work.You turned them into baby making machine.Why even i have to reply to small country like you is beyond my reasning.you r far behind us and we have reached a level where we see things differently.We r at a level where our women r crossing cultural norms.On the other hand pak women r getting oppressed even more.Soon you will be part of middle east where your women would be observing burqua mostly weared in afghasitan with only only two holes near eye.got it.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    yeah General rahil and hafiz saeed r two well wisher of India.And what they say is perfect.Recommend

  • raj

    at least we don’t brag abt what they say…Recommend

  • raj

    No wonder u live in India bcz Indians are one of the least informed people on planet. U need to check your facts.. Women in Pak work as much as indians women do (in numbers) so u cant compare. Go to villages that India possess (approx 60%) and u will find those baby making machines. see it urself. Pak shud not be compared with India.. India can be compared with China n u knw urself, India is doing pathetic. their poverty is below line and millions dont have water and toilet. ur women are not crossing norms, they want to be westerners.. and that is one of the reasons your pathetic men rape them bcz they are deperates. u need to visit lahore as its closer.. u will find women riding rickshaws .. so dont give me crap.. if u give me one example of pak women… i can giev you 1000s of yours..Recommend

  • raj

    your perspective is bound by your media and therefore i think you are one of the least informed nations.. get out of your skin and see the truthRecommend

  • hp kumar

    Our media is not showing even 1% of your truth.The true face of yours is more horrible.Go to northern part of your country,you r not even in the subcontinent .Only those parts of your country which r attached to India r witnessing urbanization.Otherwise participation of women in work forces is discouraged in muslim family.You have no sense of women empowerment.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    Women in Pak works?where ?by sitting in a car or at home..not in office place for sure.Indians r one of the least informed people?only in your dream buddy…Educationwise you dont stand a chance..You people and your media have uncanny habit of hitting above weight.But you must know consequence aftermath.Pakistan is an islamic conservative country.You should start comparing yourself with saudi arabia and iran.India is a hindu coutry.when you dont have any idea about how hindus live how can you make even assumptions about them.Nowhere i said women r not raped in india.But women r raped in pakistan also.We have will n courage to face the reality.We say yes we r ready for change.That doesnot apply to you.you r different country with different set of paople.I dont know why you r so angry?Indian men and women belong to india.r indian women seeking help from your people?no they do not.They r very capable.Then what is your concern.Also You have your job in your hand. you have women facing harassment in pakistan.Pl do something for that before making point about others.I never saw indian media publishing an article about pakistan.Neither we have interest in your internal affair.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    What you will brag when you r citizen of a failed state?Do you have anything to brag about?Recommend

  • Agha

    Of course and keeping money in your wallet is nothing BUT an invitation to get robbed. Good going smart aleck.Recommend

  • raj

    We don’t lie to ourselves.. we accept we have problems.. India on the other hand always hide it from the worldRecommend

  • raj

    Ignorance is a bliss.. i read the first line of your comment and thats it.. just got to knw for sure that even though you have interent, you seem to read lesser and lesser and spend your time on fb.. lets just not discuss on this when you even dont know if pak women work or not..Recommend

  • raj

    You need to read more my friend.. Check NDTV and IBN… so obsessed abt pakistan. I have ample idea how indians live as many of my friends are indians and they are cool.. unlike you. If you don’t know that pak women work, how do you expect me to believe that indians women work too and are capable. you have to listen first and then say. and yes India is number one country with most interest in what is happening in pak.. see your papers. Don’t even talk abt education status in india.. majority dont even go to school in villages still.. and u talk of plastic money.. lol.. jokersRecommend

  • raj

    that is the thing i am talking abt.. least informed nation. I have been to northern areas in pak and those people are very educated and brilliant.. not to mention Nagaland in india which is so low on everything. urbanisation is happening in big cities only and that is happening in pak .. nothing big abt it. least informed abt muslim women too.. there are cases of this discouragement in hundu families too.. so if you say this is just a muslim problem.. then you are ignorant.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    NDTV and CNN-IBN r leftist media.Dont give example of them?They r pro pakistan.Indians have hardly any interest in you.Secondly No Indians read Hindus would be befriending haters like you.No body wants you to believe anything as well .You believe what you like to believe.Dont even talk about education?Abey miya..Your university is actually a madarsa .If i could remember your top university produces such individuals who indulge in terrorist activities.Forgot IBA case?The same university has collaboration with one of indias top university ISB.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    India is not north korea.Do you know that?we have nothing to hide.Actually your media in collaboration with state machinery is hiding people like hafiz saeed and lakhvi.But how long?Recommend

  • hp kumar

    “Don’t even talk abt education status in india.. majority dont even go to
    school in villages still.. and u talk of plastic money.. lol.. jokers”Fools r people like you who r made to believe.actually its not your fault.I believe religious education is part of pak education.Mosques r built inside schools and colleges.You get sermons fro mullas and that became universally accepted truth for all of you.Google enrollment rate in Indian and total no. of children out of school.You will be disappointed since its almost 92%.In some places its 96 to 97% .Also read about Indias mid day meal program.If anything you should know about total no. of children out of school in pakistan.Its worlds largest.I say it again,you peope r best in making assumptions.And thats the reason for your demise.Recommend

  • raj

    Ignorance is bliss… perfect example .. lolz.. my point is not about india.. my point is read more about the other world.. if u think india is the best then you haven’t read enough.. its not assumption. its fact. when you check india’s figure on google, be prepare to chekc china and other bigger nations bcz as for your info Pak cannot compete India bcz of the size and number.. Assuming that every kid in pak goes for religious education is as informative as Trump at this moment in time and Indians are no better than him esp modiRecommend

  • raj

    and you and your people are just threaten by people like shiv sena. you call your self free and democratic yet your bollywood stars go to terorists like shiv sena so their movies can be released easily.. when you spit in the air up, its comes to your mouth first.. and shiv sena and raw are the two notorious one’s acting in disguise.. its not abt what out media does, its abt your media which makes up so many news that even people and world dont believe u.. for e.g., at the time of 9/11, indian media made up a news that similar thing has happened in india.. no body even looked on youRecommend

  • raj

    just bcz they say something that doesn’t suit your taste doesn’t mean they are anti india. grow up. I have many indian and hindu friends and we always have constructive conversations bcz all are informed unlike you. same thing goes for you bcz you are not in that state of mind that india can do wrong and every other nation esp pak is curse. If you are giving me example from google abt IBA, let me give u a google example of yourself. your army kills a man who was a graduate of some good university oin kashmir and names him terrorist and not freedom fighter (like bhagat singh who killed many still freedom fighter) and your media names a girl from same university who topped the exams… on the whole contradicting indian argument.. If a person is wrong that doesnt mean who uni is wrong… grow up.. u seem to be like 20 year old who reads only indian news papers… start reading other newsRecommend

  • raj

    you are giving me all this stats on indian education.. you shud read full then.. india literacy rate is still less than 60% and Pak is around 52% and you still giving me stats abt your primary schools… lolRecommend

  • hp kumar

    Its futile to continue discussion with you .Kashmir is a disputed region.Yet you choose to put its case here.We know who is responsible for terrorism in kashmir by the way .Also bahgat singh etc..is quite confusing.Indias literacy rate is 74%,not below 60% as you claim.we have no clue about literacy rate in pakistan coz census is not conducted since long.But one thing is for sure ,this country is on unesco watch list for the most no. of childreen out of school.Recommend

  • Asad Khan

    If your “WALLET” is firmly inside your pocket and NOT half inside or it shouldn’t FAT enough like bursting the pocket.

    Thx for the compliment and please pay heed to the advice.Recommend