Can Pakistan’s president house host its Ahmadi citizens on an Eid celebration?

Published: July 26, 2016
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There are over three million (1% of the United States population) Muslims living in America. Even though anti-Muslim animus is generally on the rise across the country, President Obama has increasingly stood up for the Muslim American community. He has passionately promoted pluralism and diversity in the United States and vouches for religious tolerance world over.

In his latest show of solidarity and outreach, the president held a White House reception to celebrate Eidul Fitr with Muslim American leaders and activists.

Muslims from all sects came together to celebrate one of Islam’s holiest days in one of the nation’s most significant landmarks. This was a feat of unity and pluralism that is rarely seen even within the Muslim community.

A Muslim woman opened the event with the recitation of the Holy Quran. When it was time for Asar prayer, another Muslim man – Mr Qasim Rashid said the Azaan (call to prayer) in the White House. Mr Rashid is a spokesperson of the Ahmadiyya Community USA. He is a human rights attorney and award-winning author of three books, including The Wrong Kind of Muslim. Under the viral video of him saying the Azaan, he wrote:

“In my adopted nation of America, I am a full citizen with full rights and full religious freedom. So much so that I can proclaim the Islamic call to prayer from the White House itself, and do so without fear. Instead, a special prayer room was provided for me to pray as I wish. I considered it a distinct honour and privilege that I could fully practice my faith as a Muslim in the very centre of our nation’s capital.”

In Pakistan, many from the right wing majority attribute anti-Muslim bigotry to the White House. There is no doubt that Islamophobia is on the rise in America. With Trump’s rise, it has sadly become more mainstream. His ignorant claims that over a quarter of Muslim Americans are pro-terrorist, that Muslims are not loyal to the country, and his bigoted suggestions that they be forced to wear special identification badges and banned from immigration have emboldened an extremist fringe. But despite all of this, the American state continues to provide complete religious liberty to its Muslim citizens and refuses to be a party to the hate fest.

Sadly, this is not the case back home in Pakistan where the state is an eager party to such religious bigotry by our own ‘Trumps’ (and we have no shortage of them). Under Pakistan’s notorious Ordinance XX, issued by General Zia in 1984, Pakistan severely restricts the religious liberties of its Ahmadi citizens. They can be jailed for three years for ‘posing as Muslim,’ a ‘crime’ that the law claims ‘hurts the sentiments of Pakistan’s Muslims’. Ahmadis cannot self-identify as Muslims. And hundreds of Ahmadis have been jailed for reciting the Kalima, reading the Holy Quran, saying the Salam, saying the Azaan, caught praying etc. Just recently, two elderly Ahmadis, one in his 80s, were jailed for printing a verse of the Holy Quran and selling a copy of it to another Ahmadi respectively.

I am an American Muslim myself. And in America, every Muslim is granted equal rights by the state, and every Muslim is an equal victim to Islamophobia. Muslim places of worship have equally been targeted and defiled in recent years. The difference in Pakistan is that instead of countering this phobia against a religious minority, the state is a willing party to it. Instead of condemning the calls for bans and special identifications, the state enforces this discrimination.

Can Pakistan’s president house, for example, host its Ahmadi citizens (alongside other Muslims) on an Eid celebration? Can Pakistan’s prime minister visit an Ahmadi place of worship in the country, let alone refer to it as a mosque? Can Pakistan’s political leadership stand up to the rampant anti-Ahmadi bigotry in society and publicly embrace Pakistan’s Ahmadi citizens?

We complain of the rise of Trump in the United States, but fail to realise that the mullaism in our midst is not only far more putrid, it is celebrated by law and enshrined in the constitution.

What this White House Eid celebration should teach us is that the state must always celebrate diversity and pluralism and we can always agree to disagree on faith matters while standing up for the basic human dignity and freedoms of one another.

And to those on social media expressing anger at President Obama inviting Ahmadis alongside other Muslims, your counterparts in America are also angry he invited Muslims alongside people of other faiths. Look yourselves in the mirror and dye that orange hair.

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Kashif Chaudhry

A graduate of King Edward Medical University, Lahore and Mt Sinai University Hospital in New York, Kashif is currently completing his Cardiology fellowship in Boston, USA. He writes for various American newspapers and Pakistani publications and blogs at the Huffington Post. His interests include medicine, human rights and interfaith dialogue. He tweets @KashifMD (twitter.com/KashifMD)

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Asad

    Err, no mention of Bhutto who started the mess? Quoting selective history is wrong Recommend

  • pk

    You are asking for too much. Pakistan was created on the basis of two nation theory. One nation is Sunni and another nation is non-sunni (Including non-Muslims).Recommend

  • pakOne

    Before painting Pakistani Muslims with a biased broad brush, please note that the White House has hosted Ahmadi for prayers, not the Muslim.Recommend

  • Shahbaz Asif Tahir

    For deeds to be acceptable, the first condition in Islam, is
    belief in the oneness of Allah, and that Prophet Mohammed SAWS, is the last and final Prophet
    of Allah.Recommend

  • Zeresh

    Did you forget Bhutto’s legislation in 1974?!!Recommend

  • Vish

    The author also needs to introspect about the actions of his forefathers who despite enjoying the same rights and religious freedoms as their compatriots in British India wanted to separate out into a new country based on religious identity. To then expect equal treatment in such a country is naivety. No country whose very existence is based on religious identity of a specific group can be expected to treat all its denizens equally, irrespective of their religious affiliation. Equal treatment and the freedom to practise religion is only possible in countries who do not base themselves on religious identity. If the author is honest he will admit that his forefathers are as much to blame as those who persecuted them in the past and continue to persecute Ahmadis to this day.Recommend

  • safeer

    Simply NO. Because our orthodox Mullah of Pakistan wishes Ahmadies instead of believing in One God to better profess the belief that Allah (God) is not One (God-forbid).By stating us as non-Muslims,This is what they and Anti Ahmadi Law wants us to say? How unfortunate? Our beloved Prophet Muhammad(SAW) may me,my Parents and kids be sacrificed on his dust of feet,came to commune humanity with One and Only God (Allah). Are people of Pakistan standing for the same?They might be but i seriously doubt their Molvies.Recommend

  • siesmann

    Mullah is unteachable.He will remain in his subhuman condition forever,and so will influence his followers.His poison won’t let him rest until he bites somebody.He is a curse to humanity,as much as he is so to Islam.Trumpism can be stemmed,Mullahism never.Recommend

  • Ali Khan

    Wikipedia reveals that the Pakistani “law does not allow Ahmadi Muslims to call themselves Muslim or to “pose as Muslims,” which is punishable by three years in prison.” Why would someone who has left Pakistan and adopted another country expect the Pakistani President to break the law? Would you expect the same from President Obama? (Disclosure: I am an American Muslim). Thank you.Recommend

  • wb

    With Islamofascism on the rise why should anyone let an Ahmadi recite prayers?!

    Pakistan is an Islamic Republic and only Muslims get the privileged honors. Non Muslim do not. So, why should Qadianis get any special privilege in Pakistan?

    See, that’s the prize you get when you become disloyal to your own country. You created Pakistan by disowning your own country India and wherever you go, you claim Ahmadis are loyal to their motherland. You weren’t even loyal to your own.

    And you reaped…..you know how that goes.Recommend

  • Uzair

    Ahmadi community has been declared non muslims. There should be no doubt in declaring them as non-muslims. They do not believe in end of prophet hood. They still believe on continuation of prophet hood which is sufficient to call them non-muslims.
    Azzan , namaz and Holy Quran is for those who follow Islam and believe that last prophet is Muhammad P.B.U.H. This writer has written just to get fame/cheap popularity.
    However , we must respect each other and there is no justification to spread hate among each other. But writer should also read some basic/fundamental concepts of Ahmadi community .Recommend

  • wb

    On a lighter, but very apt, timely and pertinent note:

    Do you know how the following saying goes? Recommend

  • salim

    Ahmadis were part of the groups of sects which were leading bigots when it came to partition time. Can’t live with Hindus and breathe the same air and water, huh? Karma is a …….Recommend

  • Fawda

    Ahmadi was jailed for selling and reading Quran, but even any shipowner Hindu-Christian can sell it and nobody is banned from reading it, anywhere. Actually it is good that more and more people read or distribute it, why Ahmadis were jailed for doing that?? It seems that it is just to punish Ahmadis.Recommend

  • Milind A

    Muslims in India also appear united, with less friction amongst sects. This proves, that for Muslims to remain united (and peace subsequently), they’re fit to be ruled by someone else – Hindus (India), Christians (America). The moment Muslims get power they mess it up big time….Recommend

  • Ahmad

    The writer is an Ahmadi himself. He calls himself a Muslim and writes using that handle. Not the first time he has done this.Recommend

  • Komal S

    They do not believe in finality of Prophethood. So what? They can call themselves muslims, who are you to Judge? Respect starts when you respect their freedom to call themselves what they want.Recommend

  • wb

    Where is the saying ET? Why your editing standards are so low? Recommend

  • Miyagi Jr.

    In comments, Ignorance galore, from anti-ahmadis to indians alike.

    Indians complain because Ahmadis helped Jinnah create Pakistan while all other major Muslim sects and parties of India were with congress and against Jinnah.

    Anti-Ahmadis complain that Ahmadis (who fought for freedom alongside Jinnah for the Muslims of the sub-continent) are not Muslim according to the constitution of Pakistan.

    Ahmadis frankly do not care what you guys think of them. Their goal is love for all and hatred for none.
    So you guys fight it out, while Ahmadis give Azaan in the White House.Recommend

  • Naveed

    They do not believe in finality of Prophethood, is not so what.
    They cannot disguise themselves between Muslims and not fulfill the Basics. Why don’t they Call then Only Ahmedis….Recommend

  • Naveed

    The Writer is Ahmadi himself..Recommend

  • SamSal
  • AA_Southpaw

    Dear Kashif,

    I think it’s about time that you write a comprehensive article of how and why Ahamdis are Muslims. Give all the details from Quran and Hadith.

    Crush the snake’s head once and for all.

    I would like to learn the Ahmadiyya point of view from you as according to you people like me have been “brainwashed” by the ignorant “mullah”.Recommend

  • Patwari

    But see, hindus beat up defenseless Muslim women at railway stations.
    Because they were suspected of carrying beef. [it was not beef]
    hindus beat up low caste hindus for carrying a carcass of a dead cow to
    be skinned. [only low caste hindus can skin dead cows lying in the streets]
    So, currently, gangs of vigilantes roam the streets of hindu cities. Hunting
    for anyone suspected of carrying meat in their groceries. Any meat found
    will automatically be classed as “beef” by these thugs patrolling. So, better
    have a dot on your forehead, and better not be carrying any meat. Or you
    will never reach home alive.Recommend

  • Patwari

    Well, when we have the Banarsi Mulla waxing Muslim hating
    gibberish, then we already know it will be another batch of
    toxic hindu vitriol/venom against Muslims.Recommend

  • AA_Southpaw

    A woman once said I don’t believe there is a God but I’m still a Muslim.

    She is not.

    Just like we call Christians and Hindus, non-muslims. We call Ahamdis
    non-muslims also.Recommend

  • AA_Southpaw

    Why are Indians still angry at what happened in 1947?Recommend

  • Zubair Khan

    One should wait and see how situation unfolds in scenario Trump success. Prior to 1974 period, state never entangled with Pakistani Ahmadies. Z.A. Bhutto followed by Zia were short sighted leaders who mixed up religion with politics. The individual leaders or statesmen sometime do matter. So let us wait few more months.Recommend

  • Fahim

    I think Author needs to learn that Qadianis or Ghulam Ahmedis are declared non-muslims. They can be invited in holi or new year party but for Ramadan, NO !Recommend

  • Fahim

    Qadianis or ghulam ahmedis are allowed to write articles against other sects but no body can write against them on tribune. #FacepalmRecommend

  • gp65

    Do they believe in Kalima? In Salat? In Zakat? In Roza? In Hajj? YEs to all. So they are Muslim. Please show me where in Quran does it say that belief in finality of Prophet Mohammed is pre-requisite to being a Muslim.
    Just by passing a law calling someone non-Muslim does not make it so. Half the Pakistanis do not even think Shias are Muslim. So tomorrow if Pakistan passes a law stating Shia are non-Muslim, does it make sense?Recommend

  • gp65

    The Kalima only says Allah is only God and prophet Mohammed is his messenger. It does not say anything about finality of Prophet Mohammed as a last messenger. The other 4 pillars are Salat, Roza, Zakat and Hajj.Ahmadis believe in all 5 pillars of Islam. Who are you to introduce a 6th pillar and call someone kafir that calls himself Muslim?Recommend

  • Osman Masood

    And an ignorant one at that! Recommend

  • Osman Masood

    Yes, in the civilized world, he’s allowed to do so.Recommend

  • Osman Masood

    People’s religious identities are a matter of self-identification. They can call themselves Christian or Muslim or Parsi, and you can say they aren’t so in your opinion, but the state cannot take that position; it is not the state’s job to regulate religious identity. It must simply ensure that people have the right to call themselves whatever they want and you have right to believe that they are wrong.Recommend

  • Osman Masood

    Your point that a country founded on religious identity will not treat its citizens equally appears valid. But religious freedom probably has less to do with how a country came into being and more to do with what role the country saw for religion in government; otherwise, India, a country with secular origins wouldn’t be oppressing underprivileged members of the Muslim and Dalit communities.Recommend

  • Osman Masood

    And that should affect my reading of this article? Recommend

  • Osman Masood

    Enjoying people’s misery much? From the way the Indian government is currently treating its Dalits, Muslims and every other minority community, it appears that in India one really “can’t live with (upper caste) Hindus and breathe the same air and water.”Recommend

  • Osman Masood

    Enh, that’s probably because in India, Muslims are a minority and they club together for identity, support and influence while in Pakistan they’re a majority and they look for other ways to identify themselves (class, language, ethnicity, sects within Islam, etc.). Sort of how Hindus in Pakistan tend to overlook these factors, but in India, there are significant disputes between the various Hindu groups (Congress v. BJP, Dalits v. Other Castes, North v. South Indians, poor v. rich, and so on).Recommend

  • Robinson Varghese

    Mohammed Ali Jinnah was a Shia (Ismaili)Recommend

  • Robinson Varghese

    Mohammed Ali Jinnah was an IsmailiRecommend

  • Osman Masood

    Agreed, every self-serving politician is to blame.Recommend

  • siesmann

    Muslims should be kept away from that August place.Recommend

  • siesmann

    He will stii believe it,even if is forced not to say it.And you will believe in hatred and murder even if you were to deny it.Recommend

  • siesmann

    American Muslim still will hate Ahmadis and murder them.It is in the blood of Pakistanis in particular,and Muslims in general.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    They should call themselves Arabically Praying Hindu. This wii make them grow native roots and connection to ancestors.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Pakistani President needs to call these people and celebrate Eid with bhajans of Ram and Krishna. With Sevayian he should offer Marathi Srikhand to these people.Recommend

  • numbersnumbers

    Interesting comments! Apparently it is Ok for majority Muslins to discriminate against other Muslim and non-muslim sects, but any discrimination against Muslims by non-Muslims in The West is to be condemned as Islamophobia!!! LOL!Recommend

  • AnisAqeel

    Is that so?Recommend

  • AnisAqeel

    Uzair, I think the author has very clearly mentioned that he is an Ahmadi and a Muslim so he doesn’t need to read ” some basic/fundamental concepts of Ahmadi community” rather other way round it will certainly help if you study Ahmadiyya beliefs yourself instead of listening blindly to others.Recommend

  • AnisAqeel

    Is there any law in Pakistan!!! One of the laws creator with the name of General Ziaul Haq publicly spoke about it (constitution) that it is just a piece of paper that can be changed any time, and practically he did that too.Recommend

  • siesmann

    Tells you how silly Muslims are- a bigoted lotRecommend

  • Ravian

    Ahmadi-Muslim relations is much too complex. It is like a Muslim insisting that he his not Muslim but Christian because he believes in Jesus Christ as a Prophet and Bible as Book of God.Recommend

  • Milind A

    ” there are significant disputes between the various Hindu groups”

    Few things
    1. these disputes are not as bad as those amongst Muslim sects, where people are blown up, beheaded or killed
    2. People are showing an inclination to come out of this bias as awareness & education increases
    3. Hinduism is dynamic and being steadily reformed. Reformers are not declared ‘un-Hindu’ and killed
    4. Finally the discrimination is not supported constitutionally as in Muslim countries.Recommend

  • Milind A

    defenseless?? She could be a burqa wearing suicide bomber.. But I guess its ok to shoot Muslims in Pakistan by the army.. but the moment a Muslim is roughed up, its an issue. Get a life!!1Recommend

  • Shehryar Hassan

    I don’t understand….why the ahmedis/qadianis are hell bent on proving themselves muslims!……….If you have chosen a new Prophet; then live with a new identity……..Live your life, follow your religion but without the disguise of Islam………..Recommend

  • SOHAIB HANIF

    Pakistan Constitution declares Ahmadis non muslim. The ahmadi author is purporting to represent him as a muslimRecommend

  • Shahbaz

    They Do Not belief in Kalima, & Quran as well. They negate Quran by not Believing in Finality of Prophet (P.B.U.H). They have declared their Own FINAL Prophet. Do you still need elaboration? Go talk to a Ahmadi to make you believe if they are Muslim or NOTRecommend

  • Kushal

    Show me a text from the Indian constitution or IPC or any other source which appears as oppressive towards Dalits or Muslims.Recommend

  • Kushal

    So are Pakistanis. Aren’t they?Recommend

  • Kushal

    His first law minister was a Hindu as well. You know his fate right?Recommend

  • Kushal

    Looks like someone just joined the team after “graduating” from a Madrasa.Recommend

  • Kushal

    Now answer one of my question. According to you, what makes a Muslim different from other semitic groups like Christians or for that matter Ahmedis? Recommend

  • Kushal

    Great comment.. Learning for me as well. Let some one who claims Ahmedis are non muslims answer that.Recommend

  • Kushal

    Well, that would have been the case in any civilized part of the world. But here we are talking about Pakistan.Recommend

  • ajeet

    Funny with a history of plunder, rape and Arab merchants of slave trade, it’s a bit over the too to worry about Dalit’s. Funny that the oppressed Muslims from India are not seeking asylum in Europe, but every sect from the land of the pure are ready to go abroad and trash other countries too.Recommend

  • Ily Khan

    I am old enough to find a couple of historic ironies here. An Ahmedi calling to prayer all other muslims. At Jinnah’s funeral prayer, his Foreign Minister Sir Zafrullah Khan refused to joint in, later saying that it was against his belief to pray with non-Ahmedis, etc.
    Second irony is that now the Ahmedis want to integrate with other muslims, whereas the central idea vis a vis non Ahmedi muslims has been that they were not muslims unless they believed in Hazrat Massih e Maoud, that is Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Sahib, and pledged allegiance to him (and of course paid the regular monetary dues to Jamaat e Ahmediya).Recommend

  • Shehryar Hassan

    It’s the faith in “The One and Only God Allah” and the final Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) ……….Recommend

  • http://kashifmd.com/ Kashif Chaudhry

    Interesting to see Pakistani Mullahs and Indian Hindutva trolls join hands in justifying persecution of Ahmadi Muslims. Cool story!Recommend

  • Uzair

    Dear Komal , There are some dos and don’ts in Islam. You can not compromise on these principles . One of these in to believe in the finality of prophethood . It is adviseable to all Ahmedi Community to please think again and to revisit their concepts on finality of prophethood. The freedom does not mean that you start compromising on the basics /fundamentals of Islam.
    There is no logic/truth in teaching of Ahmedis. I am sending u a website . Here r lecutres on Ahmedis and their concept. Pl listen it and then write something. http://www.seerat.net/Audio/Audio.aspx?catid=17. It is especially for the writer to listen these lectures.Recommend

  • http://kashifmd.com/ Kashif Chaudhry

    Many Indians justifying #AhmadiApartheid. Glad I could bring Pakistani and Indian Mullahs finally on the same page.Recommend

  • http://kashifmd.com/ Kashif Chaudhry

    If Donald trump’s constitution labels Muslims terrorists, will you accept it? Constitutions are man made. Here is what Islam and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) say about who a Muslim is. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kashif-n-chaudhry/are-ahmadis-muslims-let-u_b_9725660.htmlRecommend

  • http://kashifmd.com/ Kashif Chaudhry

    Our Prophet is Rasulullah Khataman Nabiyeen Muhammad Mustafa (pbuh). And his verdict is what we shall follow. Not yours or your Mullahs’. Read his words: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kashif-n-chaudhry/are-ahmadis-muslims-let-u_b_9725660.htmlRecommend

  • http://kashifmd.com/ Kashif Chaudhry
  • Salim Alvi

    religion IDs are taken by cowards, crooks and criminals esp when those IDs are of marauding rapist brutes, so they also behave like these alien brutes and rob, rape and kill natives in the name of these legions.Recommend

  • gp65

    How do you claim that they do not believe in kalima? All it says is that Allah is the only God and Mohammed is his messenger. They do not disputed or deny that.
    Where does it say in Quran that prophet Mohammed is the last messenger? Please give an authentic Ahmadi reference that shows they do not believe in the kalima and Quran, do not blindly quote some hater.Recommend

  • gp65

    So someone who shows you the mirror is a troll? It is interesting that you did not say ‘Muslim’ Mullahs but did say ‘Hindu’ trolls. You could not get yourself to criticize ‘Muslim’ Mullahs even though the only people who persecute you are Muslims and the only places you get persecuted are Muslim majority countries. Yet you dissed ‘Hindus’
    though Ahmadis can and do call themselves Muslims in Hindu majority India. Shows that despite demands of respect and tolerance from fellow Muslims you are unwilling to extend the same to non-Muslims.
    I do not think Vish supported Ahmadi persecution in Pakistan. He simply reminded you that you chose this by deciding that you did not want to live with Hindus. Recommend

  • gp65

    Secularism relates to the constitution and the constitution does not discriminate against Muslims. Yes there have been many riots but in majority of cases Muslims have started them,
    I do not claim there are no bigots in India because that would be untrue. However the courts, media and civil society do not support bigotry. Also there is less bigotry today than yesterday and there will be even less tomorrow.Recommend

  • gp65

    If their goal was love for all, they would not have bought into Jinnah’s theory that you cannot live with Hindus.Recommend

  • gp65

    They buried him with Sunni ties because they could not admit he was an Ismaili.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Modi is not upper Jaat or Varna. Modi is not upper financially, in conventy English accent. So are most of his ministers. So your Sherry Rehman describes themm wallto wall ugly. But these days she is finding beauty in Indian ₹.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Which Ahmadi went to jail fighting alien misrulers, British? Like Jinah they worked for Angloes.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Pakistani president should call Ahmadi on Chand Ki Raat and make it Nativity Raat by dancing and singing with them native Guruwani, Bhajans for Ram & Krishna ending with vegetarian feast with Marathi SriKhand.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    A busload of them were sent to Jannat near Sohrab Goth. Now Goth dont have any cow left for kurbani.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Xianity & Islam were created to sustain create empire by hijacking native’s faith. Allah and his sibling deities have plan how to get rid of these WMDs. Too long natives all over suffered… natives were genocided, enslaved, robbed using these WMDs. Today Anglos have achieved perfection in using the Islam, the WMD. They wiped out progressive among so called Arabs by creating second IS, first being Pakistan.Recommend

  • Osman Masood

    Kushal, that’s probably why there has historically been much less of this nonsense in India than in Pakistan. Now, as religion is increasingly exploited for politics by the BJP, we’re seeing a rise in the same type of stupid violence that Pakistan has been gripped by for 40 years. I hope that things change for the better in both India and Pakistan.

    Ajeet, it isn’t funny at all actually. Our history of plunder, rape and involvement in the slave trade is depressing, just as sad as the inhumane treatment of people condemned to misery from birth because of caste. I wasn’t arguing that you’re just as bad as us, but that the direct/indirect involvement of religion in government is a bad idea whether in India or Pakistan.Recommend

  • siesmann

    How many of you Muslims go to Ahmadi’s funerals for prayers.Your mullahs have poisoned your mind to an extent where you can’t think rationally.Recommend

  • siesmann

    The sillinessof Muslims.Recommend

  • siesmann

    Your don’t read their books,and make your opinions on the word of bigoted Mullahs.Recommend

  • siesmann

    Well tell that to your Mullahs.They are bent on exterminating them,and won’t let them live even after constitution did their dirty bidding.Recommend

  • siesmann

    Trump will make these inhuman Muslims know what persecution means.Recommend

  • siesmann

    But that doesn’t quench the blood-thirst of these so called inhuman Muslims.They will find someone else to hate when they are finished with Ahmadis.Recommend

  • siesmann

    I am perplexed as to why Ahmadis want to remain in Islam.It kills if you leave it,it kills you if you wish to remain in it.There are authentic religions out there that will gladly let them into their fold,and let them practice as they see fit and guarantee their safety .And Mullah is allowing them the luxury of leaving his religion without killing them(hopefully,because his blood-thirst is astronomical). Other “Muslims” are not so lucky. Recommend

  • siesmann

    Only you can dream that up.You people will let them live were they to write anything against the bigoted Muslims?!!You can’t even tolerate them if they wish to be left alone.Recommend

  • Shehryar Hassan

    Dear Kashif….I have already read that article…..thanks………..I don’t want to get into dirty debate about your and our mullahs…….

    You consider Ahmedis/Qadianis Muslims; it’s ok, carry on……………..But we see no difference between Aswad Ansi’s, Musailymah’s etc group and Ahmedis/Qadianis!………Let God be the Judge

    BTW I had a Qadiani colleague and a friend as well……we stayed together, ate, worked and had fun together…….He is an amazing guy….I still like him……………He had his faith, I have mine……..Recommend

  • PJ

    True. The Kalma does not say that prophet Mohammad [PBUH]
    is the last prophet. [in a line that includes Jesus Christ, Moses,
    David,going back to Adam. There were 124,000 prophets,
    who came to Earth with the message of the One God
    And Mohammad [PBUH} is the last one of them. Called the Seal
    of the Prophets. There are none after him. No other prophets. Period.
    That is a steadfast tenet of Islam. Unchangeable. Inviolate. This has
    nothing to do with creating a Sixth Pillar. It is the extremists/terrorists
    [Khawariji/Salafi/ Wahabi] sects who consider THEMSELVES to be the
    one and only true BELIEVERS. The rest are regarded as non-Muslims. [Shias, Ismailis, Agha Khanis, Zikris, Sufis, all non Sunnis]
    Now was that hard to for you to understand.??
    [You should Google Khawariji/Wahabi/Salafi sects of Islams. If you have not done this already.]Recommend

  • Bibloo

    What mirror? Vish, a purported citizen of a country where
    securlarism never existed, is whining his philosophy about
    Ahmadi forefathers “enjoying” secular rights alongside
    hindus. What rights? Where? When? In Hindustan?
    Did it ever occur to hindus trolls that Jinnah and his Muslim compatriots foresaw what will transpire in the future?
    That Bharat would turn into a top heavy Hinduland. With
    no chance of Muslims ever receiving the same rights or considerations as hindus. Yes, they saw this coming. And
    how right they were! Which is exactly what happened.
    Back then hey saw it happening around them every day,
    They calculated the hindu mindset, correctly. Ages ago.
    For some reason, the majority hindu trolls, rather, cyber
    warriors never come to grips with these easy facts.
    Hindustan is now spouting one mantra. Bharat Is For Hindus Only. The rest leave. Thanks to the Vermillion
    Lord and his henchmen, the Hindutva Trance is raging.
    Not a day goes by when some troll advises a Hindustani
    blogger, in this newspaper [who exposes the dire conditions facing minorities in Bharat] to move to Pakistan.Recommend

  • SOHAIB HANIF

    I respect ur freedom of expression my comment was not addressed to u and half of it was censored anyway as long as constitution is in vogue everybody including media should respect itRecommend

  • AA_Southpaw

    What if a person follows everything in the Hadith ( one which contains praying towards the same Qiblah) and says that Mirza Ghulam of Qadian is not a Prophet,Messenger, Mujadid. Jesus(as) is alive and Mirza is a Non-Muslim. Will he still be a Muslim?Recommend

  • siesmann

    You judge others and then have the audacity to say let God be the judge.Muslims have become gods becuase Mullah thinks himself above god.Recommend