Why is Pakistan allowing an imam to call for jihad against our Shia community?

Published: July 12, 2016
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Worshippers gather after the suicide bomber detonated a device near Prophet (PBUH)’s mosque. PHOTO: REUTERS

Immediately after the news of the suicide attack on Masjid-e-Nabwi was released on various TV channels, a local imam of the masjid next to my house thronged to the mike and made a thorny speech against Iran and Shias around the world.

The infamous Jamia Masjid Abu Bakar Siddique also has several posters of banned outfits such as Jamaatul Dawa pasted outside its walls. The speech was full of controversies, conspiracies and hatred – and called to capsize the entire population of a minority Muslim sect in Pakistan.

His open call for the Shia genocide was based on his logic that the suicide bomber in Madina was an Iranian sponsored Shia militant. He said that the Shia community has been trying to take over KSA for decades but have failed to do so. However, it turned out later that the suicide bomber in Jeddah hailed from India and his name was Fayyaz Kaghazi.

But the Imam of the masjid never took back his statement, and did exactly the opposite of what the Holy Quran says about spreading misinformation.

What is most dangerous in this situation is that no one from the audience or the community stood up against him or questioned the reliability of the information conveyed by this so called imam of the masjid. This continual and perpetual cycle of hate speech leads to systematic marginalisation and ghettoization of the Shia population in Pakistan. This leads to the Shia community living in segregated localities and neighbourhoods, only making them more vulnerable to attacks.

He basically scapegoated the entire Shia population and labelled them as Zandiq (a person who believes in and/or calls to ideas and beliefs that are contrary to Islamic teachings). He then proposed to wipe out the entire Shia population in order to rid the Islamic world of the conspiracies Iran has prepared to take over KSA.

He asked the worshippers and the locals to donate their funds to Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ) and Sipah-e-Sahaba (SSP) in order to expedite ‘jihad’ against the minority sect.

His open call for hatred against Shia Muslims and Iran was one of the many ways Saudi Arabia has always tried to curb Iran’s regional influence in the ‘Shiite Crescent’ and in countries with large Shia populations such as Pakistan. Iran and Saudi Arabia are locked in an increasingly tense competition for regional influence, and back opposing sides in regional conflicts, including in Syria and Yemen.

Like Tel Aviv, Riyadh is worried Tehran will eventually possess nuclear weapons and claim hegemony of power in the Middle East. In Pakistan, KSA backs organisations which promote anti-Shia Islamic elements so that the Shiite Iranian version of Islam is pushed to the wall. While the two major Muslim nations of the Middle East remain at a standstill in their diametrically opposed foreign and security policies, Shia minorities living in countries such as Iraq, India and Pakistan face persecution and abuse at the hands of extremist Sunnis who blame the sect for the tensions in the Muslim world.

This was not the first incident of hate speech witnessed at this mosque. The Imam called for Shia mass murder on September 25, 2015 as well during a Friday sermon following the 2015 Mina stampede, which according to him was planned and executed by Iran. He said the miscreants in the Islamic world hail from a single sect because of its inherent ‘heretic’ tendencies.

“In order to cut the snake’s head, Shias must either be killed or made to leave the country,” he said.

On June 27, 2016, when Youm-e-Ali was observed across the city to mark the martyrdom of Hazrat Ali (AS), the same imam took to the mike and said the Shias have taken over the whole country and must be wiped out as soon as possible.

The WestPoint study shows that the hate speech against the Shia community contributes towards recruitment of 12 % of the populace.

“The vast majority of LeT’s fighters are recruited from Pakistan’s Punjab province.[…]Since 2000 there has been a strong upward trend in recruitment via family members and by 2004, this channel contributed to over 40% of LeT recruitment”.

This is, by all means, not the only incident of hate speech in mosques. In fact, the state and civil society has almost acquiesced such violence. This is the reason why ASWJ and SSP are openly collecting funds for “jihad” outside the mosques and seminaries on Fridays.

On June 17, 2016 the imam of the Jamia masjid Abu Bakar Siddique at Qayyumabad asked the worshippers to donate their funds and charity to the members of ASWJ outside the mosque who were ‘fighting for the honour of the Prophet (PBUH)’s companions and excavating those who disrespect them.”

On July 6, 2016, after the Eid namaz (prayer) ended at China Ground Kashmir Road, members of banned ASWJ/SSP were openly collecting fitra, zakat and sadqat right at the exit of the mosque. This was reported by Muhammad Jibran Nasir on his official Facebook Page. He also (claimed to have) reported the incident to the police and rangers but no official was available at the site.

Members of ASWJ openly collecting funds for Jihad outside China Ground, Kashmir Road Karachi.
Photo: Mohammad Jibran Nasir official Facebook page

ASWJ, at number 32, is one of the banned outfits in Pakistan
Photo: Mohammad Jibran Nasir official Facebook page

Mainstreaming hatred through indoctrination

The root cause of hate speech comes from various sources, mainly from madrassas. The sad fact is that 50% of Sunnis in Pakistan don’t even consider Shias to be Muslim. This is a rather unprecedented development of religion in our society which is marked by the unchecked growth of puritanism and Wahhabisim in our large scale seminaries and mosques. A large part of violence against Shias is also indoctrinated at seminaries of the banned outfits such as Tahreek-e-Taliban (TTP), Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LEJ), Jundullah, Jaish-e-Islam, SSP and ASWJ, and other extremist splinter groups. This patronage and social acceptance of hate speech leads to little or no resistance against such militant organisations from the local communities.

In the past, at least 1,957 Shias were brutally killed and another 2,516 were injured in 872 separate acts of violence from January 2012 to December 2015 in Sindh alone, whereas Karachi remained the most hit area.

I do not know whether the term genocide can be used to describe Shia killings that have been happening in Pakistan, but I do know that what ASWJ and SP are calling for is a clear act of genocide.

Iran attacked a Shia mosque in KSA?

It might be obvious to not blame Iran for the blasts in KSA since one of the targets was the Kingdom’s persecuted Shia population in the eastern province of Qatif.

The suicide attack on Masjide-Nabavi was the third in a series of suicide attacks in Saudi Arabia on Monday, while earlier in the same day, in Qatif, an eastern city which is home to thousands of Shia Muslims, two explosions took place near a Shia mosque.

The militant group, Daesh, had previously claimed responsibility for a suicide bombing at a Shia mosque in Kuwait on 26 June, 2015.

In this situation, it is crucial for all citizens of Pakistan to question such hate mongers and take responsibility for the safety of their friends, family and fellow citizens. Silence is also an action, an act of approval! We need to speak up if we want to turn the tides against the ‘everyday’ terrorists in our country.

Faraz Husain

Faraz Husain

The author studied Economics and Politics from LUMS and worked for the University of Pennsylvania's South Asia Studies Library Project where he collected several locally published books from Madrasas. He is specially interested in topics related to gender and Islam, conflict resolution, peace-building and international relations. He tweets as @Farazhusain12 (twitter.com/farazhusain12)

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Bairooni Haath

    When you found a state based on a particular religion and condemn those from other religions to a second class existence, the natural questions arises, which version of the religion is the true one. Pakistan has been trying to answer this question for 70 years. Ahmedis were declared Apostate early. Shias were spared so far perhaps because Mohammed Ali Jinnah was Shia, but it is their turn now. Perhaps the Barelvis and Sufis will be next as the Wahhabis seem to be in the drivers seat as far as religious purity is concerned. In any case, Pakistan is a gift from Allah that will keep searching for perfection in Islam.Recommend

  • lambuaata

    this is what usually happens when a country is created on false premise and confused identities.its only a matter of time when shias will go the ahmadiya muslim way in pakistan. although wahabi bigots are present even in India, there propaganda against shia gets tempered down in an economically vibrant,secular,tolerant and progressive society.Recommend

  • Nomad1412

    “However, it turned out later that the suicide bomber in Jeddah hailed from India and his name was Fayyaz Kaghazi.”

    Nope, he wasn’t an Indian. Saudi Arabia never issued any retraction to their previous statement, a few Pakistani news outlets contrived this story out of Facebook posts by Pakistanis.Recommend

  • vinsin

    Pakistan still has close to 20% of Shia population so the term genocide cannot be used. Shia themselves took part in genocide of Punjabi Hindus in Pakistan and in declaring Ahmedi as non-Muslims, so what is the problem now if Shia are declared non-Muslims? With Shia there is also risk of them demanding partition just like subcontinent Muslims.Recommend

  • pk

    Till the time there are different sects in Islam, non-muslims need not worry. First they will sort out each other (trying to purify alien bedouin ideology) before turning against us.Recommend

  • Ishaq Mohammadi

    In fact in Pakistan every mulla either Shia, Sunni, Wahabi, Brelvi etc, is free to give FATWA against any religion, sect, party, org or even against his opponent with in his own sect. Of course as blue eyes of powerful establishment of Pakistan, Wahabis enjoy this FATWA BAZI, in full capacity that is un-lawful in any means.Recommend

  • Rohan

    Because of the ideology of Pakistan, anybody who is not a Sunni Punjabi Muslim is 3rd rateRecommend

  • bigsaf

    So much for the National Action Plan. Sunni Islamist extremism, of various types, is unfortunately almost mainstream in the country and a threat globally.Recommend

  • Hassan ali

    Not impressive. The writer doesnt not know the meaning of Genocide. Second, we cant hold the state responsible if an imam of mosque makes hatred speach. Recently Ishaq ludhyanvi was killed with his followers in punjab as a part of National Action Plan.
    The harmony bw the sects in Pakistan lies in to respect sentiments, teachings and all companions of the holy prophet pbuh.
    If our beloved shia brothers stop making hatred and abusing against the compananions and the wives of the holy prophet, the shia community would not be targeted.
    I strongly condemn hatred speaches from both sides.
    ThanksRecommend

  • Talha Rizvi

    Someone ask Orya Maqbool jan and Ansar Abbasi what is their view about this? By the way which Mosque Siddiq i Akbar was it? The one in North Karachi?Recommend

  • Hamdani

    Good that this is highlighted for the sleeping authorities to take action.

    But amidst all the fact writing, how does LeT come into the recruitment part. It is not a sectarian outfit. Seems to take the weight out of the otherwise good blog write-up.Recommend

  • 786202yaali

    Riyadh, like Tel Aviv, does not fear IRI for wmds, nor is their fear anything new. In deed, they would fear IRI even if they did not possess a single bullet. Rather they fear IRI because of their independence against the hegemony of which they themselves depend on, and more specifically, they fear them because of their recent successes with Hezbollah (and Syrian support), in defeating Israeli occupation in southern Lebanon in ’00, along with their 2nd victory in ’06, while the rest of the Arab turned their backs. So, Riyadh’s fear is that a Hezbollah’s spring up in other regions of the oil rich “Shia Crescent”, such as their very own eastern provinces such as Qatif. This is also explains their need to “spread democracy” to Syria, when they themselves neither have a parliament to speak of, nor even women’s right to drive. Similarly they perpetuate sectarian propaganda about Syria, even though majority of SAA is Sunni, wife of the President is Sunni, and minister of religious affairs is Sunni.Recommend

  • liberal-lubna-fromLahore

    why did they become terrorists? because people like jibran nasir turn a blind eye to history. A history of violence, injustice and suffering that these people have experienced.
    Its very naive for us to say ‘ lets finish off all the terrorists and we’ll get world peace ‘ while completely forgetting or overlooking every incident that has happened in history. Now if you just slightly talk about determining the root causes of this mess, you are immediately labels as ‘ taliban apologist ‘ or made fun of for blaming the foreign hand or evil western forces. The same western forces that invaded Iraq ILLEGALLY for NO REASON what so ever and killed off 500,000 innocent iraqi children, an act the west proudly defend as ‘ the price was worth it ‘. These are all facts. Do you think stuff like this can just be brushed off and forgotten like thay dont matter or that they will not have grave consequences. These are the grave consequences that we are suffering. Yeah sure, zia sowed the seeds for extremism but the West sowed their own seeds as well, the sheer madness of all of which we are witnessing in present times. How do you think a poverty stricken impoverished kid who witnessed all his family members being killed for no reason from a drone strike going to react? Is he going educate himself from schools that wont take him, get a degree from harvard and become a human rights advocate? or is he going to use guns and bombs to take revenge from people that he THINKS are responsible for the murders of his family members.
    Violence WILL create more VIOLENCE. There is no end it. This mess has become has an even BIGGER mess and until we learn to properly defend ourselves from not just physical violence, but indirect political violence, things are not going to get better.
    Shame on pakistani libtards for defying logic.Recommend

  • Patwari

    you cannot even bring yourself to write the
    name of Hate Factory Mosque:- Jamia Masjid Abu bakar Siddique.
    Once again Jamia Masjid Abu bakar Siddique. It does not matter
    where it is located. The Sunni govt. Of Pak allows these hate speeches.
    After all the Sharifs are the mureeds of the Burqa Mulla. Savvy?Recommend

  • Patwari

    After you finish eating your nihari and nan …DO some research
    on Le T…… It is people like YOU who are the MAIN stumbling block.
    And who surreptitiously back these banned outfits.Recommend

  • numbersnumbers

    You somehow failed to note that LeT is listed by the UN and major countries as a known terrorist group!Recommend

  • wb

    Why a fatwa against Shia? It’s okay, if fatwa is for Jihad against India or Hindus or Ahmadis. But why Shia? Why o why?!!

    On a serious note, you’re too ignotrant of history if you don’t know why Jihad against Shia. Go back in time some 1400 years and see what happened on the day your beloved prophet (pbuh) died. Also try to fin out what happened to Hazrat Ali and Hazrat Ayesha.

    Instead of that, you’re looking at your neighborhood mosque?!Recommend

  • wb

    Don’t write nonsense if you don’t know the history of Muslims. It’s the ideology and not Pakistan that bleeds both sects till today.Recommend

  • Bibloo

    Agree with you. The Sunni Punjabis are God/s gift to Pakistan. The Pathans are a distant second, The Sindhis are a far, far, lagging behind, third.
    The Balochs, Shias, Ismailis, Hindus, Christians, Parsees, Ahmadis, Zikris
    Kalash and all other minorities are non entities.
    Out of the population of 200 million, there are about 17% Shias…still left. Down from 20% because of the ongoing Shia Genocide. Understand that Shias WILL NOT lay down to be slaughtered like sheep.Recommend

  • Patwari

    Trust a paid hindu troll to jump in. With his feet in his mouth and FACTS
    supplied by Visfwa Hindu Parshad and RSS/Shiv Sena…
    Krishna be praised.Recommend

  • Patwari

    It is Sunnis who do suicide bombings. All over the world.
    You will never hear of a Shia suicide bomber. It is always
    the Sunnis. For some reason thiei mullas deemed it OK to
    kill YOURSELF by your own hands. A Very Sick Philosophy.Recommend

  • Bibloo

    He was an Indian. Whether you like it or not. Tough.Recommend

  • babloo

    in shia sect, no molvi is allowed to give fatwa but the marja (the highest rank molana from najaf or Qum) … and there is no fatwa on takfeer of any sunni muslim who says kalma… and its haram to do takfeer and insult of sahaba r.a and wife of rasool Allah s.a.w.wRecommend

  • Mujtaba Javed

    So when will it be called genocide ?? When there are 10% left …wait let me guess no no when there are only 2% left ??? Recommend

  • Mujtaba Javed

    There is enough discrimination against Muslims in India….by no way is it a true secular stateRecommend

  • babloo

    in shia sect, no molvi is allowed to give fatwa but the marja (the
    highest rank molana from najaf or Qum) … and there is no fatwa on
    takfeer of any sunni muslim who says kalma… and its haram to do
    takfeer and insult of sahaba r.a and wife of rasool Allah s.a.w.w… search google fatawa of ayatullah khamnaie and ayatullah seestani about sahaba and wife of prophet mohammad s.a.w.w… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_yeDlXosXQRecommend

  • Mujtaba Javed

    Are you sick ? Who makes your rules in regards to who to kill ? Are you even following Islam ?? You don’t kill someone just because you don’t agree with them…also shias are killed regardless of what they do or say. These saudi in general must be surprised to know that a lot of the bombers were actually Saudi wahabis yet the wahabi ‘imam’ is telling people to kill Shias ??? These people are insaneRecommend

  • 19640909rk .

    The sucide bomber was an Indian? If true he must be a first.Recommend

  • Hameed

    Calling for murders of others is normal in Pakistan. Shia mullahs also spew hate and call for murder of Ahmadis.Recommend

  • Milind A

    You post is a classic case of delusion in an ordinary Pakistani. How can a state not be responsible, if it watches helplessly, or caves in to pressures from clergy and constitutionally discriminates against sects (Ahmadis), other religions (Hindus, Christians)?Recommend

  • jay

    Shia of Pakistan should ask for a different country . They are diffrent than the Sunni’sRecommend

  • Muhammad Taqi Abbas

    Where is national action plan?? Recommend

  • numbersnumbers

    And of course you can provide credible references to support your view that the Jeddah suicide bomber was from India? Such as revised notice from Saudi interior ministry, OR NOT!Recommend

  • PJ

    Dalits, Jains, Buddhists and Sikhs of India should ask for
    different countries. They are different than the hindus.
    You understand that?Recommend

  • absar ali

    author by writing this article are you supporting to those killers who killed this imam? i am also living in Gul House and usually prays Juma Prayers in this mosque.Recommend

  • Blankspc

    just remove Hindus,sikhs,Buddhist,jains from India and then what will happen between Shia and sunnis?Recommend

  • Pepe

    It’s made your societies totally ugly, your children mentally ill , it is the cause of poverty, war, hate, illiteracy and decades upon decades of needless pain, suffering and wasted human life and endevour.

    The simple solution .. Religion is clearly meaningless, which ‘demonstrably’ brings no kind of good to anyone under any circumstance.

    That mullah should be arrested and summarily incarcerated or executed as should anyone who resembles a Wahhabi or any other kind of threat to the State.

    Very simply if this doesn’t start happening very soon with absolute prejudice,Recommend

  • rubyjacky

    Found this old article about Fayyaz Kaghazi
    http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/raw-instrumental-in-grabbing-key-indian-mujahideen-leaders/

    Read this until Saudi officials confirm that he is an Indian.Recommend

  • محب اللہ کراچوی

    Look p the Shia urdu book Tuhfat al Awam where it’s claimed that everyone who took up sword against Imam Ali is a “kharijri” & a “Kafir”Recommend

  • drkhan22

    Enlighten us with what know about 1400 years agoRecommend

  • drkhan22

    What about hitting your chests and backs with everything possible in moharram, Zakireen have declared that ok as well for no sensible reason.Recommend

  • IFTIKHAR-UR-REHMAN

    Looks like either Ch. Nisar is scared of these mullahs including that of Lal masjid Islamabad or he is cares two hoots of what happens next.!Recommend

  • محب اللہ کراچوی

    Suicide bombing was introduced as a tactic in the Muslim world by the Lebanon based Twelver Shia terrorist group Hizbollah.Recommend

  • Ishaq Mohammadi
  • Ali Vazir

    What a brave and courageous piece that could only appear in the Blogs of a leading newspaper/media of Pakistan.
    The above statement tells all about the pathetic law & order situation of the country and how much the govt, bureaucracy and the law enforcement agencies are vigil and responsible.Recommend

  • wb

    Why don’t you read Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim? Too lazy?Recommend

  • Desy

    Just yesterday a sunni pesh imam Habib Rehman was gunned down on SUPARCO road, Karachi when 2 gunmen fired on his car and his son also died. ET did not cover this news, these pathetic cheap victim politics and disinformation can make indians gloat this also making Pakistanis angry and hateful of the media and its so-called shiagenocide writers for blabbing bullsh*t whereas the rest of the sunni murders are neither covered or given credence as much. This shia is a uni. graduate, his ilk occupies mjor govt. positions, business groups, army in Pakistan compared to the sunnis and yet he is a victim. Why Shia Pakistanis don’t look into Iranian sunnis tyreatment 219 were executed by the auth. using ‘enmity of God’ act which offense was converting shias or even non-shias like zikris , building a sunni mosque in shia majority area [against irani laws] and aiding separatists activiities in backward sunni provinces like Sistan-Balochistan, which has becum a bottom in terms of education and lving standard. Compare this to the shia pakistani activities in Pakistan, not only they keep silent on sunni treatment of shia majority persecution in Azerbaijan, Iran. This BS every other day ASWJ or IRaq, if u have issue than tgo to those places which u r loyal to. Don’t prove to others that ur more loyal to the outsider shia who does’nt give hoot about u compared to Pakistan. Posting article of the gateston institute report of the iranian executions of sunnis

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5344/scene-from-an-execution-iran-executing-six-sunniRecommend

  • Mansanpk2012

    Most latest the Imam of Masjid Abu Bakr Siddique has been assassinated. Is this not a different act? Shia Sunni
    violence is eating Pakistan very quick. Unfortunate!Recommend

  • qamar kazmi

    Please do some research you are saying what isreal and amercia your brothers say. Firstly there were two bomings in lebanon one against amerian soldiers and the other against French soldiers who were helping isreal.

    That was in 1985 Hezbollah charter was written made in 1985 so how could it be hizbollah.

    How is hizbollah a terrorist group that’s what isreal says are you paid by them.

    Sunnis have done tens of thousands of sucide bomings including against women and children against sunnis against mosques where the holy Qurans have been burned is that not blasphemy.

    You have bombed holy medina (may allah subhanatallah keep it safe).

    You have bombed sahaba ikram graves the list is endless of your crimes you are best friends with isreal amercia etc.Recommend

  • Juan

    If you have an issue with the term genocide, then perhaps sectarian cleansing might be a better word. The state is responsible to stop incitement to violence which this so called imam is indulging in.

    Let’s not kid ourselves. Shias aren’t constantly 24 hrs abusing Sunni sacred cows, this is just propogation by Sunni Islamists or anti-Shia bigots to continue their hate and targeting, which includes other groups of non-Sunnis globally. There is always some excuse or another about ‘sentiments’ being hurt. This does not justify extremist or sectarian violence which you unfortunately are doing.Recommend

  • Juan

    Khariji is not a made up term. It was used then by Imam Ali’s camp against those who didn’t accept any Khilafat and indulged in their own extremist violence, and also used to condemn them as kafirs out of animosity. This is history.

    Even some of your average Sunni or Shia sometimes condemn violent Islamists as Kafirs (though literally in the sense of being non-Muslim conspirators), which is ironic as Islamists do the same.Recommend

  • Juan

    The LeT has hobnobbed with sectarian outfits besides the Jamaat Ud Dawa group they founded who are quite sectarian in their speeches. This is besides LeT being a militant group itself.Recommend

  • Juan

    I know the situation is quite dire for Shia Muslims, but pls watch the rhetoric. While there is growing intolerance, denial and crisis of faith, can’t blame all Sunnis who don’t indulge in hate, including some religious scholars.Recommend

  • Lakhkar Khan

    Milinid,

    The discrimination issue against various sects in Pakistan is almost comical. It is coming from the citizen of a country
    that systematically slaughtered 1000s of its Muslim minority and place of their warship in Gujarat. It was all done with
    the blessings of its current Prime Minister.Recommend

  • DudeFromDC

    The problem is, they don’t really want to, unlike your shias. You understand that?Recommend

  • Juan

    True. Used against a US military barrack, not civilian, situated in Lebanon back in 83 during the Israeli occupation.

    Apparently Sunni terrorist groups have taken it to heart and run with it against all types of populations, including civilian targets, around the world, making up for the majority of today’s suicide bombings.Recommend

  • Arsha

    So somebody speaks something which is against your beliefs and so it’s ok to kill them? Way to go! So you would be fine if Hindus or Ahmadis in Pakistan go on a murder spree because majority has completely mocked or disrespected their beliefs. Agree?Recommend

  • farhan

    you forget to mention the killings of half a million sunnis in syria…..Recommend

  • Lt Col Imtiaz Alam(retd)

    There is nothing hidden about the animosity between KSA & Iran. Hajj which is one of the most important pillars of Islam during which I have witnessed a group of Iranians create a scene near & around Masjid e Nabawi shattering the peaceful Ibadah of the rest of the Haji’s. This would continue every day. The Shurta’s would herd them outside. There is no ritual to be performed there except pray in the Mosque and send Darrod & Salams to the Prophet SAW (peace be upon him). In Islam the only rituals performed outside the mosque during the time of Prophet SAW & the four Khalifa’s of Islam are the two Eid prayers, prayers for Rain & Funeral prayers. My only suggestion that we all perform our Rituals within the four walls of the Mosque , Imam Bargah, Temple & Church for the purposes of Security.Recommend

  • LS

    Taking an apt NAP.. ZzzzzRecommend

  • Emmkay

    You’re a biased idiot.

    Secondly, genocide is genocide regardless of who took whose side when in time. Murder is murder, crime is crime. It’s like saying the Jews are allowed to commit atrocities against Muslims because they were once persecuted themselves.

    Don’t try to justify genocide. Don’t be ignorant.Recommend

  • vasan

    Now that a paki muslim indoctrinated hate mongering troll has commented, you can expect blowbacks.Recommend

  • Bahlol Dana

    An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth. However doing this will simply increase the violence. What the Sunni sects needs to realize is that Saudi Arabia royal family is afraid of loosing its grip on power. So it creates an enemy, aka Iran, to get people on its side , meanwhile Saudi Arabia is developing its realtionship with Israel. Now tell me all this shia sunni fighting who benefits the most, its not the Muslim ummah, but the Yahoodi ummah does. All decent educated Shia and Sunni brothers need to come togther as believing Muslims believing in the same God, same Rasool(pbuh) and the same Quran. All sorts of extremism needs to be rejected on both sides.Recommend

  • Gratgy

    Nope,
    “Kuwait deports relatives of Pakistani suicide bomber -Gulf Digital News-11-Jul-2016”Recommend

  • Gratgy

    Trust a madarsa trained, muslim, jihadi potential to open his mouth and spew nonsense supplied by his local bearded mullahRecommend

  • Gratgy

    Compared to Pakistan which killed 3 million of its minorities in East Pakistan and raped 100,000 womenRecommend

  • Gratgy

    Nope, Dalit is not a religion, they are hindus, My best friend is a Jain, but he marks his religion as “hindu” and they intermarry with other hindu castes such as baniyas. Recommend

  • Patwari

    Not true. False. You made that up. They do not call for the murder
    of anyone. Your comment is fake.
    Because Shias are a minority themselves., and have NO reasons to create
    more problems for themselves, and have some rabid banned outfit come after them. The Sunni govt. of Pakland will stand and watch. And do nothing.
    They kill Shia Hazaras every month in Quetta. And it does not even make the news.
    Shias have enough psychos hunting for them, due to the Sunni mullas fatwas against Shias.Recommend

  • Patwari

    Thanks for the kind words. Proves hindus are uncultured.
    Trust an uncouth paid troll, who is frothing at
    his mouth to jump in. After all, that is inferiority
    complex raising it’s ugly head. Looks like 1300 years
    of Muslim rule created this hindu identity crisis.Recommend

  • Patwari

    There are no imams in Wahabi and Khawariji/ Takfiri mosques.
    They are mullas. Mulla Mansour. Mulla Javed. Mulla Mauviya.
    Mulla Abu bakar, Mulla Ahmed and so on.
    They are mullas. not imams in Sunni mosques.
    Shias have imams in their mosques.Recommend

  • Parvez

    This can only happen if the government gives its blessings……and it does, because of the purely selfish short sighted policies of our leaders.Recommend

  • Ronny Dsouza

    Would you tell us the how the muslims ruled for 1300 yrs.Ps: i am living in south.Recommend

  • Lt Col Imtiaz Alam(retd)

    One hundred thousand security personnel are deployed during Muharram and other rituals for the ahhe tashi all over Pakistan deluding the rest of the population with security.Your statement is biased and not true

    Recommend

  • Lt Col Imtiaz Alam(retd)

    The minorities are being very well looked after. Recommend

  • محب اللہ کراچوی

    Khawarij are a group that make takfir of their political opponents. Sayyidina Ali did not make takfeer of his political opponents he said, they were his brothers who had rebelled against him. On the other hand he sought and destroyed and sought God’s pleasure in killing the Khawarij, extremists who that his political opponents were kuffar, much like the Ithna Ashari Mullahs of today do.Recommend

  • Juan

    The disagreements and disturbances over rituals, does not address the toxic anti-Shia incitement to violence and sectarian cleansing preached by this hyper Sunni Muslim imam, who made an insane allegation that the Medina attacker was a Shia, when it was another Sunni Islamist terrorist in ISIL.

    Even if the Shia Muslims would stay inside their four walls, or even Christians, history shows they’ve been attacked there as well by Sunni extremist militants. If there is to be security it needs to tackle the likes of these imams whose radical message does not stay confined within their four walls.Recommend

  • Lt. Gen. Patwari [retd]

    We are no longer living in the 7th. century. The world has evolved.
    The various cultures have evolved [with regional influences] There
    are technological advances like never before. There are billions of people.
    Sunni mullas can spout their venom and hate speeches with loudspeakers
    from WITHIN the 4 walls of their mosques. Without stepping outside!!!
    And USE OTHER Electronic Media to spread their hate. There is hate
    literature printed by the ton. There are hate curriculums in schools.
    There are NOW printing presses. And bigots and racists in govt. Army,
    Navy Air Force who support this hate ideology.
    Where have YOU been living?
    You never thought of all this. Did you? No. You are still in the 7th. century.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Because hate sells well among rootless parasite converts who are brutalized by imperial enslaving dogma. Enticement and fear also works well in keeping the herd in flock. Enticement is the loot of Shia property. Shiaism started to protect native cultures if Persia, Iraq & Assyrians after they were attacked by brutalized Bedouins.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Root cause is imposing Abrahamic faith on diversity celebrating Bedouins and resultant brutalization of Bedouins, destruction of temples for 82 deities many of them being female. Spirituality is organic and when it is used for enslaving natives is the original sin.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Abraharamism was invented by Romans to divide the natives & for enslaving them Koresh perfected this Roman technique. Shia is weak attempt to thwart brutalization of natives of Persia & Assyrian natives. Anglos have mastered how to use WMD so that they can rule over the world using Islamic/brutalized proxies.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Why? If before Islam native culture could create Khadija, a business tycoon why not give up Islam and embrace nativity, native culture, native language and native organic spirituality instead of distant faith of brutes who came to our lands to loot, plunder, rape & kill?Recommend

  • Gratgy

    “Thanks for the kind words. Proves hindus are uncultured”
    Nope, It just proves your low IQ, probably due to inbreedingRecommend

  • Rhn K

    Nothing to worry about ;they have no potential worth but verbal and instinctual desire to take up Shia’s Sunni ‘s loving Ahlulbait as if they are some real and out of proportion force on earth.

    People with such madly attitude and qualified yazeedi tutorials must understand it is not like what they have done 1400 years back taking family of prophet as granted thus killing innocents in Karbala..

    This is 2016 ,and i have no hesitation to intimate so to call them as invade us at your desire what they think as their capacity and brutality ; so to see our masking ability to tear apart Yazeedi Slot.

    We are what you are and we react how you act .Recommend

  • Bibloo

    You are a sectarian Wahabi.Recommend

  • PJ

    Even with your Hindu rant, you still come across as perverse.
    All your previous comments.prove that you are disturbedRecommend

  • Lt. Gen. Patwari [retd]

    Really? That is why the Parsees have disappeared! Hardly
    any Hindus left. While Christians are slaughtered by the
    truckload. Nearly 300 women and children blown up on
    Easter Sunday. A church blown up in Peshawar, killing 200
    men women and children, two years ago. Joseph Colony
    Lahore, 300 Christians burned to death in their homes.
    Shia Hazaras killed every week in Balochistan. Nobody knows
    how many Ahmadis have been butchered. A Christian couple
    beaten, hanged then burnt to death, just last year.!!
    And an ongoing Shia Genocide. Well documented.
    Where have been living? Under a Wahabi rock? A Khawariji cave?Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    When ee deny our native roots and become parasite, we are indeed disturbed. To get rid of disturbance natives all over the world need to revert back to their native faith as it existed before Xianity & Islam. Anglo Jane & James are already doing it. http://www.newsweek.com/us-views-god-and-life-are-turning-hindu-79073Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Listen to educated Pakistani girl https://youtu.be/c-88L_zb364Recommend

  • liberal-lubna-fromLahore

    da fudge? OoRecommend

  • Juan

    Its yet to be determined whether that attack was sectarian or by other Sunni Islamists. There is no Sunni sectarian cleansing program of the majority in Pakistan. The attacks are disproportionate against minority Shias, and other non-Sunnis, by Sunni Islamist hate groups in Pakistan compared to their populations. This is not BS, and also suggested by human rights groups that you have linked to. Pakistani Shias are facing increasing discrimination at the grass roots level compared to the past. One can also claim hypocrisy by not looking at Saudi Arabia’s and Bahrain’s ill treatment of their Shia populations and unnecessarily accuse Pakistani Sunnis of doing the same of looking the other way and having loyalty to them. This is an issue on both sides, but Pakistan is not a theocracy like Iran and Saudi Arabia, who also unfairly execute their majority Shia and Sunni populations respectively, and must strive for better to protect its minorities. Asking native minority Pakistani Shias to stop complaining and leave Pakistan is prejudice on your part. One can ask you to do the same and go to other parts of the Sunni world due to your own complaints. Links below
    https://www.amnesty.org/en/press-releases/2012/11/pakistan-shi-killings-failure-government-protection/
    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/01/shia-cleric-among-47-executed-by-saudi-arabia-in-a-single-day/
    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2011/06/bahrain-military-court-sentences-shia-activists-unfair-trial/Recommend

  • Rohan

    Stop commenting and start educating yourself Recommend

  • Lt Col Imtiaz Alam(retd)

    They all prefer to live in the West. Where all that glitters is Gold for them.Recommend

  • Naqvi

    Brother you have wrong information. Like shias condemn shia genocide they do condemn when ahmadis become the target.
    .Recommend

  • mazharuddin

    1300 Muslim rule? Not single local convert Muslim had ruled ever India. They were Turks Persian Mongols and their rule extended up to true sense just 300 to 400 years at certain areas. Vast part of India always were ruled by their other local Kings. If you think that you r descended of those turks not a local convert to Islam then be my guest.Recommend

  • siesmann

    Mullah and religion are incompatible.One is exactly the opposite of what other should be.Is there anything evil in this world and Mullah is not behind it?Recommend

  • kickass

    Patwari you have shown your mental level by changing your pseudonym.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Religion is Latin word coined by Romans in IV century. It meant Regal Legion. Once you lose native roots you become a parasite – a very easy to use cannon fodder. Such parasites then try to be more Anglo than Anglos, more Bedouin than Bedouins…. Terrorists are such deppressed and confused parasites who have nothing to hold onto. They hate everything native including their own existence on native soil.Recommend

  • Desy

    do u even know what sectarian hatred is, go and live in sistan-baluchistan -[balochis, zikris] , nishapur , kursdistan [kurds] provinces of iran. Or check out if there is a sunni mosque in tehran. Ask the iranians why not even 1% of university enrollments are from iranian sunnis although they are 10%-12% of the population. Compare that to the shias of Pakistan who have victim mentality and lots of nonsense cos they know sunni treatment in shia majority hands in azerbaijan and iran. If there is a sipah sunni militant group that changed into ASWJ there is a shia banned sipah group that members have gonei nto TNFJ and shia ulema council. Even with this domination in business, media and other fields u r still crying then plz leave we already have too much of pests lately.Recommend

  • Hashim Zuberi

    They do not call for the murder of anyone? Buddy in that list of banned outfits, the 2nd on the list is Sipah E Muhammad … a shia militant wing, heavily funded by MWM and wealthy shias that has made its mission in life to kill Sunni Ulema and Muftis. Get your facts straight please, people aren’t as ignorant as you think they are.Recommend

  • Hashim Zuberi

    While I don’t support killing of shias or any other sect for no reason but please keep this delusion of shias being ‘muslim’ to yourself.

    Islam as a religion does not preach hatred against anyone, and lays extra emphasis on respecting all Sahaba (RA) and Umahatul Momineen (RA) … the shia religion is completely opposed to these beliefs as it is based on spreading hatred against the Sahaba (RA) and Umahatul Momineen (RA) based on absolutely baseless/false/made-up stories. When your religion is based on mythology, don’t compare yourself with Muslims

    The term “Shia Muslim” is the same as “Islamic Wine Cellar” … just doesn’t make sense.Recommend