Is India making the same mistake Pakistan made by allying with the US?

Published: June 26, 2016
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U.S. President Barack Obama shakes hands with Prime Minister Narendra Modi at the end of their meeting in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington September 30, 2014. PHOTO: REUTERS

The post-colonial history tells us that Uncle Sam has been more of a destabiliser than a divine presence in the region. Pakistan has been a close ally of the US since the 50s. But has the Islamic country been a real beneficiary by playing the western world’s game in South Asia? In its blind desire to get military parity with India and neutralise the existential threat from its eastern neighbour, Islamabad became a front for Washington in the NATO’s war against communist Soviet Russia.

As a result, Pakistan, a newly born country, lost its strategic autonomy quite early in its life and became a pawn in the larger game of the western countries.

America used to fete the Pakistani leaders and military generals whenever they visited Washington. This gave them a bloated sense of their importance. What used to serve the egos of the Pakistani leaders was not in the larger interest of the nation.

Many of the evils afflicting the Islamic Republic today are by-products of its close embrace with the US.

India, under the first Prime Minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, decided to make a different tryst with its destiny. Victim of colonial power for more than 200 years, it decided to chart out a different foreign policy path and, instead of becoming a camp follower, it took steps towards becoming the leader of third world countries. Non-aligned Movement (NAM) was a by-product of this thinking. No doubt New Delhi has been a close ally of Soviet Russia ideologically and strategically. It, however, never rented out its strategic autonomy and independence in foreign policy.

But India, an emerging economy with overweening ambition, is ready to play Pakistan in the second decade of the 21st century. Unmindful of its colonial past and the history of the last six decades, New Delhi is willing to embrace the US in a close strategic hug, thereby auctioning its military independence and strategic autonomy. A leader of the NAM is in a great hurry to become a stooge of the US led alliance. Fearing the overwhelming presence of China in South Asia and the Asia-Pacific region, New Delhi, is willing to join the American camp to thwart the ambitions of Beijing.

The Logistics Support Agreement (LSA) or Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA) that the South Asian democracy has agreed to sign in principle with Washington, would give the American military access to India’s bases. That would mean that New Delhi becomes a military lackey of the US, the way that Japan, Philippines and South Korea are. The South East Asian nations have different historical experiences and concerns, and they have reasons to join an Asia-Pacific alliance meant to contain China.

But India has its own place in history and nurtures a future which reflects its glory and achievement rather than being a flag bearer of another country’s ambition. It’s a fact universally acknowledged that America is in a desperate situation to play a leadership role in the world vis-à-vis China. Its depleted economic might limits its military ambition and outreach. Washington wants to rope in New Delhi to play its game and compensate its declining power.

The problem is that the governing party in India today is a Hindu right wing party, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), a group that has never participated in any anti-colonial movement and its ideological parent, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), always served as a stooge of the British during the freedom struggle. A party with such a dubious history is bereft of the larger vision that shaped the struggle for independent India.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi, a man with highly constricted intellectual horizons, believes that by bringing India into a close military embrace with the US – he is venting the aspirations of new India. He wants India to think that anti-China strategic alliance with the west and a membership of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) are the best things that could happen to the country. But Modi, a man with limited ideology, does not understand that the corporatisation of the foreign policy might serve India’s corporate and business interests, but harms the larger vision of the nation.

He does not understand that India’s interests and the interests of the west are at odds with each other. Terrorism in the region found its roots, not because of Pakistan but because of the western world. Today Afghanistan is suffering not just because of Islamabad; Washington played a great role in legitimising destabilisation in the Hindu Kush.

A military alliance with the US would mean the sanitisation of the American sins in South Asia and elsewhere. Can we escape the consequences of accepting an international evil? If India allows Washington to launch drones from its territory against the Taliban or the ISIS, can we remain unscathed from the resultant consequences? A military alliance with America means India will also be drawn into war against terror, and that would make India even more vulnerable to terror attacks.

Friendship with the US comes at the cost of South Asian solidarity. It will not allow India to normalise their relationship with Pakistan. Joining the American camp pushes Islamabad deeper into the rival camp. Any future friendship with China becomes all the more difficult. The LSA means institutionalisation of historical animosities in South Asia.

You can choose your friends, but you cannot choose your neighbours. India has no option but to deal with its two neighbours – China and Pakistan. Why should New Delhi buy into the western notion that China’s rise is a threat to India? China is in a different league and India is nowhere close to the communist regime. Although ideally, establishing peace and stability in the larger picture would require New Delhi and Beijing to engage with each other more. However, at the moment, India’s alliance with the US creates tension in the region – with both the big neighbours looking at each other with greater distrust than ever before.

If New Delhi thinks that military alliance with the western nation would bring stability or parity in South Asia, it suffers from myopia. Bilateralism between India and Pakistan suffers. Normalisation of relations between the two neighbours becomes all the more difficult. As a result, Afghanistan remains just as disturbed as it has always been. Overall, the new military alliance promises to cause more destabilisation in South Asia than has ever been witnessed before.

If we don’t learn from history, history condemns us.

sanjay.kumar

Sanjay Kumar

The author is a New Delhi based journalist covering South Asian and international politics.

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • LS

    No Indians don’t compare themselves to animals… What OP is referring to is called a “metaphor”.. I am sure they teach those things in elementary/ middle school there?Recommend

  • Paki Terrorist

    That exactly defines Pakistan’s relations with the US and China … India is a self respecting nation … will never be anyone’s client …Recommend

  • Paki Terrorist

    That is what you Pakistanis would like others to believe … !! … Pakistani narrative of losses and victimehood has no takers in the world … !! … the bottomline is, Dr AQ Khan ran a nuke Walmart for the Paki military establishment, and OBL was found hiding in Pakistan … Pakistan continues to receive billions of dollars in the name of hosting Afghan refugees …Recommend

  • Last Word

    It is extremely foolhardy to compare Pakistan and India in equation with USA. The author though Indian has penned the article to Pakistan’s perspective and is quite unrealistic on many points making a total mess of it. China is breathing down India’s neck constructing rail heads right up to its borders with India and shown its aggressive posture pitching tents inside our territory several times. India cannot afford to be complacent rightly entered into strategic alliance with US and acquisition of latest arms along with technology transfer. This is a masterstroke of killing two birds with one stone placing China on the defensive. Modi has emerged as a global leader and master strategist who has able to win both Western and Muslim world attracting investment more three trillion dollars in India much to disappointmentRecommend

  • Last Word

    contd. of his detractors. Pakistan on the other side lost US support by playing double game with the latter in Afghanistan supporting Afghan Taliban despite being an ally. India unlike Pakistan will continue to follow independent foreign policy will never commit its troops in foreign lands at behest of US. India is also not dependent on US for financial aid which Pakistan was has strong economy which compliment each other. So, the author missed out these important differences concluding that India will meet the same fate as Pakistan is indeed laughable and is far from reality.Recommend

  • wb

    RSS? SENA? None of them are involved in any acts of terror unlike most Pakistanis.

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  • Swaadhin

    This is very typical of how a Communist sees history.

    “Victim of colonial power for more than 200 years”

    India was ruled by foreigners for over a thousand years and not 200 years.

    “No doubt New Delhi has been a close ally of Soviet Russia ideologically and strategically.”

    We were never close to the Soviets ideologically as a nation, only certain parts of India were. Yes economically we hated free market thanks to the left leaning policies of Congress, there is nothing to be proud of that.

    “But India has its own place in history and nurtures a future which reflects its glory and achievement rather than being a flag bearer of another country’s ambition”

    So preparing yourselves against the Chinese is being a flag bearer of another country, who do you think we lost to in 1962?

    “The problem is that the governing party in India today is a Hindu right wing party, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), ”

    Yes that is the real issue for leftists like you and you need not beat around the bush.

    “…does not understand that the corporatisation of the foreign policy might serve India’s corporate and business interests, but harms the larger vision of the nation.”

    The states where your ideology still rules in India have no corporates and hence the students who graduate out of colleges travel down south or west looking for better opportunities, Buddhadeb was so desperate to corporatize his state that his party ended up losing power ones and for all.

    “Terrorism in the region found its roots, not because of Pakistan but because of the western world. ”

    Even the Pakistanis must be wondering if they are reading what they are reading.

    “Can we escape the consequences of accepting an international evil?A military alliance with America means India will also be drawn into war against terror, and that would make India even more vulnerable to terror attacks.”

    Calling an entire nation evil shows the audience you are addressing, even the ideologically driven ISIS would want to change their ideology to yours only if you could tell them how do you manage to hate the west more than they do. The fact that you think we should not make friends to avoid being attacked by terrorists shows where does your sympathies lie.

    “Friendship with the US comes at the cost of South Asian solidarity.”

    The solidarity you talk of was buried under a million dead bodies.

    “You can choose your friends, but you cannot choose your neighbours. India has no option but to deal with its two neighbours – China and Pakistan.”

    Yes we will deal with them on India’s terms, not Marxist/ Leninist terms.

    “Why should New Delhi buy into the western notion that China’s rise is a threat to India? China is in a different league and India is nowhere close to the communist regime. ”

    You don’t surprise me, the communists were the only folks who supported the Chinese stand when India was humiliated by the Chinese on the high Himalayas.

    “If we don’t learn from history, history condemns us.”

    Can’t you see, that is exactly what we are doing.

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  • LS

    The fact that you brought religion here show the chasm in the understanding of international politics… Chinese only care about two things.. exerting their dominion and money when trading. They deal with dictators, corrupt officials, and incompetent governments all the time.

    Their plan is also good… Give country the loan to build the power plant that uses obsolete tech and make sure the contract is a no bid one with high interest and goes to Chinese company, they bring their workers, build the project and go away WITHOUT any transition… incompetent government takes over the project, pays the loan and interest but at the same time does not know how to run the plant!! They float another tender to run the plant and some another company gets the contract — Ex. Nandipur Power Plant or Gwadar port,Recommend

  • LS

    The famous “We aren’t worth much, the conversation is about is, but how can I turn it into India China and US thing”?Recommend

  • LS

    So you think that because these 3 blasts happened Muslims can be excused for what happened in last 1400 years where hundreds of Millions of people died, untold miseries inflicted on them and continues to happen across the world? The hypocrisy of the Taliban, AQIS, Haqqani Network, ISIS is that they claim attacks that did NOT do either!!Recommend

  • LS

    They don’t care about facts.. if you say something that does not agree with them, then you hate them… they are simple minded, absolutist, everything is black or white. Adding layers of grey, conditional clauses, rules.. makes them confused.

    Another funny thing I have come to note is that they forget that when pointing at others, they themselves are in much deeper hole on the same topic but they point anyway. Every negative story about them is a conspiracy against their nation and every positive (if there is at all) is the greatest achievement of the Islam and Pakistan…

    Well who am I telling… maybe you already know all this…Recommend

  • maynotmatter

    Lets compare our history text books and settle that argument you just brought up.Recommend

  • maynotmatter

    For a madrassah educated person every man who can talk sense looks like clown. By the way the clown is more welcomed in world ….way more than your cleric in suite and boot.Recommend

  • maynotmatter

    Should I remind you how Sartaj Aziz cried like baby when he saw India demoed Submarine launched ballistic missile and the anti missile shield in last three months ?
    Should I also remind you of Mangalayan which is still orbiting mars ?
    I guess that is enough to give you heart burns for rest of the year.Recommend

  • maynotmatter

    Haha, you are seriously suffering with a lot of heart burns from India’s success stories lately. Can see it all over in your comments. Carry on.Recommend

  • maynotmatter

    We have a large one on our west.Recommend

  • CHARLIE HEBDO

    Why you worry about Indian Muslims? Worry about your own Ahmedi, Hazara, Ishmailis, Bohras, Bahai, Jigras, Pashtuns, Takfir Muslims living in fear with Sunni Muslims, placing bombs in Mosques, attacking buses, markets, schools.Recommend

  • Parvez

    Ringing the alarm bell is good……but ringing it in anticipation of a fire even before any smoke is seen, can backfire. The majority of the comments by your countrymen indicates this.Recommend

  • ram

    Sanjay, We are not fighting anyone’s Proxy war as Pakistan did, our relationship with US is at its political level which will change and time and again based on people’s will, However Pakistan was controlled by a lone no good senator Charlie Wilson and a CIA agent to wage a Jihadi war against Russia, if you read history it makes me sad how easily Pakistan was manipulated to do dirty job for US. We are not in with US with our both feet we could get away from this relationship as soon it makes nonsense to usRecommend

  • Kasturi K

    Then who were the ones who blew up Rajiv Gandhi?Recommend

  • Jayman

    Pakistani Generals sold their nation cheap. They had little self-worth. Don’t expect other nations to behave in the same manner.Recommend

  • Jayman

    Hahaha… obviously your “own” JF-Thunder is so good that you are grovelling on your knees to get 8 F-16s from the US.Recommend

  • Mike Pilgrim

    Poor little Hindu, sees big bad Pakistani monsters under the bedRecommend

  • Mike Pilgrim

    Indians worship animals. The animals are their godsRecommend

  • Bibloo

    No, hindus are born like that. It’s a genetic disorder.
    Just like the constant drooling.Recommend

  • Suraj Singh

    The writer is not wright on his opinion of US-India relationship the US relationship with India is quite different from that of US Pakistan relationship during Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.The US Pakistan relationship was always built on greed and Pakistan’s desire of taking India down by every means possible,that’s why Pakistani leaders and military generals sold their country to get more weapons and favor from the USA rather than developing their country’s infrastructure with the help of US aid and used that aid in getting more weapons and training Afgan and local mujaheddins to counter superior Indian military establishment.On the other hand India is a developing economy and needs US help to built her infrastructure and to protect her business routes in south China sea and Indian ocean from imperialistic Chinese military development, this relationship is completely based on securing US-India interest in the South Asia region both military and business and not on greed like in the case of US-Pakistan relationship.My request to the writer is to stop viewing US India relationship through Pakistan’s lenses India is not a failed country like Pakistan who train terrorists and send them to neighboring countries to kill innocent people in the name of god.If Pakistan thinks allying with the US alwyas leads to destruction of the host country then this same Us is an ally of Japan South Korea and Taiwan and they are all developed first world countries reason because they are true democratic countries with good economy not like pseudo democracy of Pakistan.Pardon me for my harsh but true words.Recommend

  • IAF101

    Does Hamdard in Pakistan sell Burnol ?Recommend

  • Gratgy

    LTTE from Sri Lanka blew up Rajiv Gandhi and most of the LTTE are Christians. Plus they blew up Rajiv Gandhi because of political issues not religion.
    You should try something called GoogleRecommend

  • Gratgy

    Genetic Disorder?? Nope Hindus are not the ones who marry their own first cousinsRecommend

  • Gratgy

    ET changes comments. Recommend

  • Gratgy

    Most men in your country look like bearded savagesRecommend

  • Gratgy

    Your comment says a lot on the education system in PakistanRecommend

  • Gratgy

    Yes we worship the universe and everything in it.Recommend

  • Kasturi K

    Was Dhanu Christian?Recommend

  • Kasturi K

    So rajaratnum was a Christian. Poor Hindus! they don’t even have the courage to blow themselves up in their real name. No wonder their land had been invaded by outsiders who left their roots on their sacred land permanently.Recommend

  • abhi

    you don’t have to spend so much energy on Sanjay. Recommend

  • abhi

    What kind of refrendum chinese allow? Tienanmen type?Recommend

  • abhi

    wow what a fantasy.Recommend

  • abhi

    I think there is on more category.
    5. He who knows something and tells something else to benefit himself: beware of him.
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  • Paki Terrorist

    You arrogant Paki Muslim, in search of identity, 68 years after independence … you can not get along with Indian roots, and get kicked by the Arabs …Recommend

  • Raj – USA

    Yes. That is what I wanted to say. Somehow got left out.Recommend

  • sParthiv

    indian news papers found his knowledge absurd and didnt give him importance he ended up selling it to pakistan news agencies who happily posted as it would suit their national brainwashing scheme.Recommend

  • wb

    Who are you, using my name? Don’t write such boring boring comments in my name. All my comments are super salty. Your comments are as bland as continental food.Recommend

  • Sane

    All terrorist attacks in Pakistan are done by Indian state sponsored militants. Cat is out of bag now. Stop your old rhetoric and propaganda.Recommend

  • Sane

    Suicide bombing was introduced by Indians.Recommend

  • Sane

    No go for foreigner women.Recommend

  • Sane

    Facts are bitter for your typical Indian mindset and Hindu fanaticism.Recommend

  • Sane

    Same people say about your PM Modi. He possibility not an Indian PM. Possibly Gorbachev of India.Recommend

  • CHARLIE HEBDO

    Even your birth is by Indian state, check your birth certificate. Recommend

  • Patwari

    They need the money. BJP, RSS, Shiv Sena Vishwa Hindu
    Parishad, and other hindu extremist/terrorists parties pay
    them to write these comments.Everyone knows that.
    They also write under Muslim names. Pathetic.
    Thousands are employed to scan and check newspapers all over the world for opportunities to write hate comments about Pakistan and to malign Muslims in general.Recommend

  • Myrna Minkoff

    commies of India, always over-stating the American “threat”. “OMG the US will take over our country”.
    Relax, go back to the jungle and read your Karl Marx. Leave foreign policy to the non-morons.Recommend

  • Gratgy

    We are not talking about people like the ones you mentionedRecommend

  • Gratgy

    But hardly any foreigner women visit PakistanRecommend

  • Gratgy

    Hahaha yes she was, speaks volumes about your intelligence

    Prabhakaran aka Pirapaharan (Christian convert, a lapsed Methodist)
    S.P. Tamil Selvam – Christian
    Balraj (Balasegaram Kandiah) – Christian
    Pottu Amman (Christian)
    Anton Balasingham – Christian
    Soosai (Thillaiyampalam Sivanesan) – Christian
    Thenmozhi Rajaratnam (nickname Dhanu), Rajiv Gandhi’s suicide bomber assassin – Christian

    Do you not understand the meaning of “most”. By the way the most invaded part of India was the region now called Pakistan. LMAO.
    People blowing themselves up are not brave they are stupid. Maybe you would identify with themRecommend

  • Gratgy
  • Gratgy

    LMAO, you think being a suicide bomber is something to be proud of. No wonder people call muslims terroristsRecommend

  • jay

    I get paid 11;50 just good enuf for a single vada Pav ! I love it so i am here everyday for my vada Pav !Recommend

  • Kasturi K

    But of Indian descent? Or Sri Lanka, what difference does it make. They are the same, Tamils and not white Christians of the west. So other religions also blow themselves up. Glad to know we are not alone.Recommend

  • Nana

    And people call Hindus ‘buzdil’ (coward). But leave it, let’s move on.Recommend

  • Noble Intellect

    LOL dravidian hindu detectedRecommend

  • Noble Intellect

    Hindu slum dogs are treacherous, cowardly and greedy people….in their hearts is a disease against Muslim Pakistan which keeps hindus at bay and puts fire on all their dreams. the proof lies in the fact that slumdogland hindus are seven times the size of Pakistan and yet they are mortally frightened of Pakistan to the extent of obsession.

    Secondly. hindus are well aware of the martial nature of Pakistanis who have demonstrated themselves to be foolhardy brave enough to attack and penetrate deep into slumdogland and hit the parliament in Delhi where slum dog parliament ran out with their soiled dirty clothes..to our great amusement……LOL the Paks even attacked the biggest commercial city of slumbay taking out a major hotel and sending a few hundred slum dogs to permanent sleep.

    The deepest fear of slum dogs is the final nail in their coffin since the Paks have acquired nukes, Slumdogs know very well that if a push comes to shove it will be a Nuke war in south Asia and not a trace of slumdogland will remain should Pakistan be attacked. So hindus will sit there and bark at random while knowing there is little they can do.Recommend

  • LS

    Regarding an animal as “Mother”, thus the term “Gau Mata” (because a cow provides sustenance to humans) is different from calling it a god.

    Indians also worship, land, air, water, sea, rivers, fire and everything else that nature has. That does not mean we equate us with them. They are prayed to because they are part of nature and Indians like to become part of nature and live with nature.
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  • LS

    Thenmozhi Rajaratnam (Dhanu) was Sri Lankan of LTTE.
    “what difference does it make. They are the same”… Yes, like All Muslims are terrorists?

    Sometime ago there used to be an tired and apologetic comments from Muslims that “Just because less than 1% Muslims are radicalized and terrorist it does not mean that everyone is a terrorist”. I am glad that people now know that that isn’t true anymore.

    Paris attackers, Belgium attackers, Omar Mateen, Sayed Rizwan, Tashfeen Malik, Faisal Shehzad and countless others were petty criminals, common people, not trained terrorists. Goes on to show that the threshold between a common Muslim and his becoming a terrorist is very narrow. Any perceived injustice, comment, incident can push them to pick-up arms.

    Yet there is a clamor to prove that “it is a religion of peace”, when the reality is totally different, Egyptian Plane, Florida, Turkey have happened just weeks apart from each other..Recommend

  • LS

    What evidence do you have? Dreams? I say it was introduced by Hezbollah. No points for guessing who Hezbollah are..

    http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/episodes/suicide-bombers/essay-suicide-terrorism/?p=2760Recommend

  • Mike Pilgrim

    Paranoid Indian, you see Pakistanis where there are none. You Indians are so disastrously paranoid, you have been ruled by Mongols and Brits for hundreds of years. Pakistan never was a part of ancient India, it was a separate entity called Sind. Hind on one side, Sind on the other side. Your bellicose statements claiming Pakistan was ever a part of Hind-which is patent nonsense, evidence of Hindu terrorist objectives, to which Pakistan rightfully objects-demonstrate that Indians are snake-in-the-grass liars. Concealing Hindu belligerence with sugar coated false claims it was part of India shows us clearly what you are up to.Recommend

  • Mike Pilgrim

    Godhra type is the Indian referendumRecommend

  • Mike Pilgrim

    31 years after HAL designed the Tejas, 31 years, they induct TWO Tejas planes into the IAF. How impressive, takes you 31 years.Recommend

  • Mike Pilgrim

    Ignorant Indian, the NASA Apollo moon landing program project manager, was Pakistani, this was in in the 60’s. You are half a century behind Pakistan.Recommend

  • Paki Terrorist

    You Muslim of Pakistan neither share Indian heritage, nor that of the Arabs … !! … you belong to nowhere, and will never ever find an identity …!! … your only occupation is religious nationalism, and only successful export is terrorism.Recommend

  • Mike Pilgrim

    Fake Indian. If you’re going to pretend to be Indian, get it right.Recommend

  • Mike Pilgrim

    Says the HINDU RSS mother of terrorists who killed Mahatma GandhiRecommend

  • Paki Terrorist

    one killing does not make it a terrorist … look how Muslims are slaughtering fellow Muslims in thousands, and that is called terrorism … RSS does not do that …Recommend

  • Nana

    Good. I’m glad that you felt the same way as scores of Muslims feel when all of them are dubbed as ‘terrorists.’ Let that be a lesson to people like you.Recommend

  • IAF101

    Yes, takes years to “make” and design things from scratch – it doesn’t take so long when COPY. This is a disadvantage with learning and innovation but its a price India is willing to pay.Recommend

  • IAF101

    LOL.. I’m sure some janitor or Gardner from Pakistan also worked for Neil Armstrong – I guess that means Pakistanis also had a Lunar program??Recommend

  • Mike Pilgrim

    30 years! I don’t think even the Wright brothers took that long. Even the cars Indians drive are 70 year old English junk.Recommend

  • abhi

    Still better than what happenes in China.Recommend

  • vinsin

    1) It was India from president of Indonesia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukarno#Foreign_policy

    2) Because Nehru declared J&K as an Disputed territory in a letter to UK PM and hinted his interest in joining USSR camp on 26th October 1947.
    https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/kasnehru.htm

    3) Nehru accepted Dixon plan by which GB as part of Pakistan and never opposed Korakoram highway.

    4) So why do you think Russia vetoes UN Kashmir resolution?

    5) 6000 Army was good enough. As that helped China fighting war at two fronts and merge Tibet.

    6) By India and China were no friends also. Nehru tried to have friendship with China at the cost of Tibet. Nehru never felt ashamed of selling such a huge piece of land.Recommend

  • vinsin

    NO, you are wrong.Recommend

  • vinsin

    NASA is not in Pakistan but USA space agency.
    Apollo was USA program not Pakistan.Recommend

  • vinsin

    When did wright brothers made fighter aircraft?Recommend

  • vinsin

    Christians used Hindu numerals now, so the gap is not much.
    “India Conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border.” Hu Shih.

    Then why Chinese learned martial art from Hindus?

    RSS doesnt operate in China as of now.Recommend

  • vinsin

    Indian Muslims do not worship animals. Giving respect doesnt mean worshiping. There is no concept of God in Hinduism. Animals are not Indian Gods.Recommend

  • Gratgy

    That’s why 93000 Pakistanis surrendered to the “Buzdil” army LMAO. Even your heroes are AfghansRecommend

  • Gratgy

    You mean the Japanese are Indian??Recommend

  • Gratgy

    Neither do you understand geography, nor nationality nor religious affiliations and you take pride in Muslim suicide bombers. Let me put it to you in very simple words, No one other than Muslims blow themselves up for the sake of religionRecommend

  • LS

    No I did not feel anything. I am not one of those who are tied by religion but the threshold of a Muslim becoming a terrorist is a very narrow one. Let that be bigger lesson for people like you who claim “peace” when the evidence is 100% contrary.Recommend

  • LS

    I don’t need a certificate from you, fake Muslim.Recommend

  • LS

    “Secondly. hindus are well aware of the martial nature of Pakistanis who have demonstrated themselves”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Pakistan

    Here – the list of people who occupied pakistan WITHOUT ANY CREDIBLE RESISTANCE is mindbogglingly LONG.

    Marital? Nah… just angry keyboard warriors. No wonder it figures at the top of “Fragile state” (politically correct term for Failed State). It is a good thing that your rank improved by ONE WHOLE POSITION… since 2015..

    http://fsi.fundforpeace.org/

    The largest slum in Asia is orangi in Karachi, Dhravi is better than your residential colonies with paved walkways, water supply, sanitary drains and electricity connections in each home.Recommend

  • Noble Intellect

    My proof….Recommend

  • LS

    Exactly… Just barking and faking victory does not count. You have nothing. Never had it and it shows in every international index where pakistan is at the bottom of the rank.Recommend

  • Noble Intellect

    LOL so says an indian where two in three live below the poverty line….concentrate on building toilets Recommend

  • Noble Intellect

    Fact one….Hindu India is a third world country where two out of three live below the poverty line

    Fact two 800 million live without electricity …some ares without electrics for weeks at a time

    Fact three most defecate on streets as there are no toilets…..there are a million more facts but I will let you stew in your own dirt with these for a while…LOLRecommend

  • LS

    Give me the source of your stewed facts.. else it is just a bad stew that you guys eat at the hands of your own media… let me give you sourced facts:

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/1126706/40-pakistanis-live-poverty/

    The reality is it is more than 65% because the study above did not cover every region in pakistan.

    Hunger: http://www.ifpri.org/publication/global-hunger-index-interactive-map

    Ranked Higher than India at #11

    Electricity in your country is a joke… It is never there…

    Like I said before.. when you are in a deeper hole.. don’t pretend to be someone who is well off… you are far from well off..Recommend

  • LS

    You should first focus on feeding your people… Toilets come later… You gotta eat to use the toilet…

    http://www.ifpri.org/publication/global-hunger-index-interactive-mapRecommend

  • Arun

    The writer has very little understanding of international affairs. Comparing India with pakistan is laughable. Pakistan has always looked at America as Uncle Sam from who Pakistan can beg a few dollars and some old war machines. Americans have understood this weakness of Pakistan and so treated Pakistan with contempt as beggers can’t be choosers. America has so many allies, Japan, Korea, Australia, U.k. France and many more. Does America treat all of them the way it treats Pakistan? The author feels India , whose economy is 10 times of pakistan, is in the same league with pakistan but China which is twice as large as India on ppp basis is in totally different league. He is really confused.Recommend

  • Ronnie

    Milking America for billions of USD as aid, hardly sounds like mistake.Recommend

  • Tariq

    what about the 1965 war. You can only win by conspiracies. Recommend