Why is Punjabi viewed as an inferior language?

Published: February 22, 2016
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International Mother Language Day marked with talk on its importance. PHOTO: facebook.com/rsueld

The car paused at a busy signal and as I was fidgeting with my rings, a colourful banner caught my attention. It read ‘goongay Punjab apni zaban mangda’ (the deaf and mute Punjab seeks its language). This statement brought back so many memories.

February 21st is celebrated as the International Mother Language Day. This celebration holds very significant, at the same time, conflicting and tormenting memories in my mind. It started with pain, but eventually evolved into something beautiful.

Punjabi is my maa boli (mother tongue) and it was the only language I was taught when I was a child. My father loved his native language and contrary to his contemporaries, he insisted upon teaching us Punjabi as he believed that the rest of the necessary languages would come to us naturally, with the course of time. We resented his decision for a long time and we had our reasons for it as well. When I went for my school interview, I identified the colour white as ‘cheeta’, as I was confused between Urdu, English and Punjabi. Although I was accepted, I still remember the agony I faced when I became the laughing stock in my school. The Principal was amused and understood the dilemma, she granted admission but that day I learned that this has to change, if I am ever going to be taken seriously.

My siblings and I were a joke for the family as well.

“See how cute they look, so young and conversing in Punjabi”

Even now, when I see a child speaking in Punjabi, I want to assure him that it’s completely okay.

The school was no different as well. As kids have always been ruthlessly blunt and bullying was not recognised as a scarring practice back then, the art of restraint had to be learnt. Most of the questions, learning and sentiments were lost in translation.

The resentment remained with me, where other children were learning English, and doing well for themselves, I was struggling with Urdu. On many occasions, I used to hide my roots, as I felt that there is a certain stigma attached to being Punjabi. It’s associated with the lower-middle class; hence it’s not a very pleasant identity to flaunt.

My mind was unconsciously wired to think and write in English. Like my Macbook auto-corrector, the maa boli was automatically converted into an alien language. A part of me shunned and boxed it into some attic and learned to survive without it.

I continued to pretend that it is not my identity, until I could no longer loathe my origins and learnt to embrace it.

Now, whenever I’m with my mother, no matter how chic the location is, I always prefer to converse in Punjabi, regardless of the weird responses and glances it invokes. There are certain sentiments, which can only be expressed in our mother tongue. In my case, I fell in love with my native language when my father passed away. In his memory, I started accepting and embracing my roots.

Having said that, I regret the fact that I couldn’t transfer my Punjabi dialect to my children, in other words, I could not follow my father’s footsteps. In the fierce competition of moulding them to fit our society, I had to disconnect them from their roots.

A mother tongue is central in understanding the culture we belong to, the society we live in and the history we share. We must teach our children to love their identity, regardless of anything.

Fatima Majeed

Fatima Majeed

An avid reader, freelance writer and home-maker.

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Rohan

    Because of the ideology of Pakistan, the 2 nation theory it is falsely claimed that Urdu is the language of Muslims hence that of Pakistan whereas it wasn’t the mother tongue of the majority who were Bengalis.
    This obviously raised separatist sentiments which led to the breakup of Pakistan and demolition of the 2 nation theory.A sad chapter in the failed state of Pakistan where 93,000 soldiers surrendered to the Indian armyRecommend

  • Humza

    Sorry but if you haven’t taught your children to speak their native language, your words don’t carry any weight. There are plenty of Punjabi speakers who have made an effort to impart their mother tongue and all that it embodies to their offspring. Not only does the language have its own linguistic beauty as a language without rival for music there is a large body of folk literature, poetry and history associated with the Punjabi language. Not to worry though since centuries of Sufi philosophical thought and poetry is not going to vanish because some new middle class Punjabi speakers would rather teach their children English and Urdu / Hindi. I agree that there is a subset of Punjabi speakers who have allowed themselves to be fooled that their own language and culture is not as useful as learning other languages. However,there a large number of educated Punjabi speakers who understand that children can simultaneously assimilate and use multiple languages. Studies show such children have better overall cognitive results. As always, it is the responsibility of an educated class of native speakers, in this case Punjabi, to ensure that this rich language continues to flourish and thrive for the benefit of mankind. Imagine the loss to the world is the words of Bulleh Shah would no longer be recited in the original West Punjab dialects or read in the original Persian modified script of Shahname used for Punjabi?Recommend

  • Bairooni Haath

    Punjabi is the language of Sikhs and Hindus from Punjab. Muslim Punjabis embraced Urdu, the language of their culturally and intellectually betters, the Muslims from UP/Bihar.Recommend

  • Keyboard Soldier

    Well the establishment (punjabi) made a stupid decision to side with the migrant bureaucrats (urdu speaking) to put urdu in place despite it being spoken by less than 3% of pakistan during the first few years of its birth.

    The bangladesh separatist movement has its roots in the forced linguistic implementation of urdu, which scientifically has never had nor ever will, any cultural importance for the masses of pakistan, other than the local karachites.Recommend

  • Sami

    The region of Punjab is always considered a threat and all nearby groups always make sure that the language that can give self respect to locals will be banned. Do you know that Punjabi was first banned in British empire. Infact British issued a paid grant for those who used to collect and destroy Punjabi books in the past. It is the most interesting fact of history.

    Then afterwards the trend continued. Many people especially from Kashmir and KP migrated in Punjab and they try everything that Punjabi will never be recognized. They never integrated and they never accepted the locals because of their Racist theories. The reason is that their model of integration is the one where Punjabi do not have any value so that they can integrate and rule this region.

    This is one of the reasons that despite PMLN being most racist to Punjabis is ruling Punjab. In their private meetings they bash Punjabis but still they can rule on the model of so called Pakistani nationalism.

    Also kindly do not call the language spoken in Lahore and nearby regions as Punjabi. It is not Punjabi but a morphed and rude abusive Urdu. The Original Old Punjabi is only spoken in Northern regions of Punjab upto Sargodha, Okara regions. It is known as Landha Punjabi and Awankari The Punjabi of Lahore has nothing to do with original old Punjabi. It is just a bad pronounced urdu in my view. For example if you listen to original Punjabi of Chakwal region then their accent is better than many sweet languages of the world. On the other hand GT road based fake Punjabi is crass, unruly, rude and full of abusive language.

    The need of the hour is to standardized Old Punjabi language ( Landha Punjabi and Awankari) and then implement it in schools. But the first step is to wipe out both existing parties in Punjab ( PTI and PMLN) as they both Hate Punjabi language and their leaders never associate with the local population but still want to rule the locals.Recommend

  • Grace

    It all has to do with perspective. My kids in North America think Urdu sounds backward compared to English. They don’t respond in Urdu but only speak English. This is true for most Dhesi kids.Recommend

  • Hamza Hashmi

    I totally agree with what your father felt and I think all Punjabi parents should feel the same way. If Pashtuns, Sindhis, Balochis and Kashmiris and all other people who live in Pakistan can speak their native tongues, why can’t we?

    I remember when I was in FSc, we had a really amazing Maths teacher who sometimes gave lectures in Punjabi. And he often said “Me tey ghar apni budhi nu vi eho kehna, “O Bhaliye lokey, eho e umer ey bachyean nu Punjabi sikhwan di, baqi sari zabana aa jaan giyan par ey fer nae sikh sakdey” (I even tell my wife, “Dear, this is the right age to teach kids Punjabi, they can learn every other language once they grow up, but they cannot/will not learn Punjabi again)

    But in my family the case is just like you have with your kids, my parents didn’t want me and my brothers to learn Punjabi because that is the language of “Ganday Bachey” *sigh* I had to learn that myself. When I started speaking, most people laughed, but I do it anyway, I’m getting better at it. :)Recommend

  • Sami

    Well first of all Punjabi have to be generalized. The intellectuals from around Punjab have to sit together to come up with a language and a new dictionary encompassing the whole of Punjabi dialects. Every 50 kilometer have different words. This is like a slow death of this language as standardization and lack of documentation destroy the languages. Some intellectuals are trying hard to create a New Punjabi that will not be unique but rather act as a dirty dielect of Urdu. Such intellectuals must be banned from contributing.
    Bring the original essence and uniqueness of this language.

    Also i would like to tell you that in Azad Kashmir the local languages are infact the dielect of Punjabi. There is no such thing as Kashmiri language in Azad Kashmir. Pahari is the main language of Azad Kashmir. 80 percent speak this language. Just search for Potohari dramas on Youtube and you will found out that Kashmiri dramas and Potohari dramas are same. It is also known as Potohari or Pthari. It is the mother tongue of Potohar Punjab. Infact many people do not know that Azad Kashmir region and Potohar Punjab were like one region. before the partition. British marked that region differently.

    Half of the Kashmir region speaks similar language to the rest of Punjab. Pahari Punjabi and Potohari Punjab is the same language. It just adds some words like “Acchna, Gacchna and julna for coming and going etc that distinguish it from the central Punjabi dialects. .Recommend

  • zoro

    Mother Language ?????Recommend

  • khan

    Panjab is still Punjab, SInd is Sindh, Baluchistan is Balochistan, Punjabis need to correct that error, The name Punjab was given by Britian and It remains the same. On the other hand Panjabis speak their native language most of the times+ urdu. These languages, casts, creeds, nations are only for identification, but we take this mere identification to extreme level of chauvinism. Sindhi, Balochi, Panjabi, Muhajir.It’s shameful to see that we are pawns and loyal slaves of our politicians, who are manipulating us so that we stay divided and they can get their pleasures by inflicting suffering on us.Recommend

  • Pro Truth

    We the Punjabi responsible of the demise of our language! Only province in Pakistan that doesnt education kids at primary school in mother tongue! rest of the provinces actually make a little effort to keep alive their language.

    But ignorance is blessing in disguise here, with lowest literacy rate, Punjabi language is not going anywhere and still a default language of masses.Recommend

  • Pro Truth

    No one can install a language! language is not restricted by faith or beliefsRecommend

  • fatima

    I am glad you could relateRecommend

  • stevenson

    Sad that Indian commentators obsess about Pakistani 24 / 7 without any knowledge of history. Don’t worry about taking away part of Pakistan’s language and culture – we won’t let you ! Islam in Punjab is over 1000 years old and the region was part of many neighboring kingdoms like Persia, Afghan Kingdoms and Empire of Alexander. When the word Punjab itself is Persian ( Panj – Ab) what does this have to do with Sikhism which is only several centuries old? I heard that RSS wants to change name of the much smaller Indian Punjab to some Sanskrit based Hindu word but Sikhs there will not allow it. Good for them ! Most Punjabis in the world are Muslim by overwhelming majority. Look at the size of Pak Punjab compared to Indian Punjab and look at the populations. Majority of Pakistan’s population is Punjabi which will ensure survival of the language that the British tried to ban and brainwash people not to use. I will not be brainwashed by the British or the mentality they created in Indians of Punjabis because they feared the martial races of Pak. I speak Punjabi fluently – in many respects better than my English or Urdu.Recommend

  • Keyboard Soldier

    Pakistani punjabis do have an inferiority complex when it comes to their mother tongue.

    Thing is punjabi is quite a cool language. Almost all super hit pop songs nowadays are punjabi!Recommend

  • Dipak Mehta

    Only Pakistani Punjabi is a bad language. Indian Punjabi is excellent peace loving language.Recommend

  • Amin Amin

    Really! must have come out of a urdu speaker, If you have to witness your kind go to Agra and Dehli and find out how lethargic and regressive Urdu speaking people are in those cities. They have create their own ghettos just like Blacks in the US. The Bhai logs of India and of course now Karachi!Recommend

  • Sindus

    I would agree with you that in Lahore Punjabi has been thoroughly intermixed with Urdu, therefore impurifying it. However Lahnda Punjabi (Saraiki/Potohari) isnt original Punjabi, Punjabi has lots of accents such as Majhi, Doabi, Malwi, Jangochi, Shapuri etc. The problem with Lahori Punjabi is that people do not use ‘thaith’ (pure) Punjabi words. If you go to East Punjab, where people have Doabi/Malwi/Majhi dialects of Punjabi you would see them using pure thaith Punjabi words and use little to no Hindi words. That is the only problem with ‘GT road’ Punjabi. I dont think PMLN is anti-Punjabi, majority MNA/MPAs from PMLN are Punjabi. However I agree with you pure thaith Punjabi needs to be taught in schools in Punjab.Recommend

  • Zeeshan

    Hindus from Punjab embrace Hindi as their language. The only people who embrace Punjabi as their language is the Sikh.Recommend

  • Sindus

    That script has a name: Shahmukhi.Recommend

  • Abdullah Ahmad

    Its quite obvious. Jinnah himself said

    ” So what is the use of saying, ‘We are Bengalis, or Sindhis, or Pathans, or Punjabis.’ “No, we are Muslims. Islam has taught us this, and I think you will agree with me, that whatever else you may be and whatever you are, you are a Muslim. You belong to a Nation now; you have now carved out a territory, vast territory, it is all yours; it does not belong to a Punjabi or a Sindhi, or a Pathan, or a Bengali; it is yours. …..Provincialism has been one of the curse; and so is sectionalism-Shia, Sunni, etc.”

    The Encouragement of these older languages, although not objectively bad is directly fostering the identities of punjabi,sindhi, and all other bullshit. We already kill each other over being shia or sunni, do we need other reasons to divide ourselves?
    I wont say that any language other then urdu/english needs to be banned, but they need to be pushed to the sidelines as irrelevant for the sake of unity. Let them rest in dusty books where they belong.Recommend

  • Bibloo

    Ahh,.. there. Out in the open. A racist bigoted comment, if
    ever, there was one. Now the man is blaming Urdu for the
    break up of Pakistan. What else can you expect from the
    denizens of the ‘Land of 5 Canals.’..5 Streams?…5 Ditches?
    Where every ’50 kilometers’ produces a different variation
    of the cacophony known, allegedly, as ‘Poonjabi Language.’
    It is a wonder, that all these ‘Poonjabees’ [Raj prounciation]
    can even communicate with each other. And they hog all the
    plum jobs, diplomatic, embassies, and Foreign Ministry postings.
    No wonder, there is a huge communication backlog everywhere.
    The Chakwal guy has no idea what the Sargodha guy is ranting
    about, while the Multan guy is trying to decipher the Gujranwala
    secretary, who is screaming at the Multan guy. Gibberish, in triplicate.
    Just remember, Urdu, can be understood, all over Pakistan and India.
    That’s almost 2 billion people.Recommend

  • PunjabiKudi

    Born and growing up and Canada, I can totally relate to this matter! During my first day of kindergarten, I spoke Punjabi with all my classmates and teachers. No one actually cared though. They all thought it was cool. I learned english slowly, by being around other people who only spoke english. Being born and grown up inn Canada, Im proud and thankful that I know how to speak my native language as I love it, and it keeps me connected to my roots!Recommend

  • Patwari

    Speak for yourself only. Definition of perspective is… ‘point of view’.
    Then your kids have a low opinion of their mother tongue, for whatever
    reason. Doubt it very much if it is true for majority of desi kids. Not blaming
    YOU or anything. Maybe this the way it transpired for your kids…and you.
    Urdu is one of the most beautiful, flowery, language, there is. The original
    sweet, Urdu from Lucknow and Delhi. Not the the hybrid mongrel version.
    Major poets wrote their ‘kalams in Urdu. It was spoken in Mughal Courts.
    along with another beautiful par excellence, language, Farsi. Persian to you.
    if you could read Rumi’s poetry, [in Farsi] then you will get an inkling of what Urdu is.Recommend

  • Patwari

    You have a very fertile imagination. But that comes with a lack
    of Bharati self confidence. Very common for Hindustanis. Normal.
    The 93,000 soldiers were out of arms, ammunition, artillery shells, diesel, petroleum, spare parts, tank shells and anti aircraft artillery shells and in
    some forward positions, food and water. Because there was no way to get
    it to them. There were no trucks or jeeps, because there was no fuel.
    These soldiers were surrounded by one million Hindu soldiers on three sides
    and about 300,000 Mukhti Bahini, stabbing them in the back. Bay of Bengal
    on the fourth side.
    So you think it was a fair and even fight/war? Only by Hindu standards, when
    there is a 20 to 1 advantage for Hindus.Recommend

  • Danyal Behlim

    Rohan you are the real image of Rahul GandhiRecommend

  • wb

    Martial races? Do you really believe that crap?

    Use your brain. Anyone who is taught to fight from a young age can fight. Anyone who is not taught to fight, cannot fight.

    Today, if your Shahid Afridi picked up a fight with a well trained Hindu soldier, do you think he’d win just because he belongs to a “martial race”?

    Can’t believe people can be this stupid even in 2016.Recommend

  • Rohan

    What I’ve quoted is not imagination but facts.Fact is you lost the war and your 2 nation theory was demolished.If you stopped being an anti Hindu individual then maybe your country would be better and possibly UnitedRecommend

  • only truth is nature

    I have met many indian punjabis. They speak in hindi with their kids mostly.Only Sikhs are keeping punjabi alive to some extent.The abuses in indian punjabi and pakistani puinjabi are same. How indian punjabi is peaceful?
    Do Indian Punjabis lie on the ground while speaking Punjabi?Recommend

  • Bibloo

    Gosh darn!! Got tears in my eyes. Weeping all over the floor.
    How those Urdu speakers are abusing Punjabi, the language
    of havildars, chowkidars, tehsildars, Dollar Dar, Emperor Nawaz,
    his minion Shabaz, This is so unfair. This great language will be
    extinct, soon. Like Latin. All choked up and torn up. Punjabi should
    be declared a ‘World Heritage Language.’ by UNESCO.
    The Magna Carta, was, originally, conceptualized, in Punjab.
    No wonder Lincoln spoke Punjabi. Nobody knew. Plato did his
    oratory in Punjabi, that is a fact. Socrates, another one. Pythagoras
    dreamt his theorem in Punjabi. Julius Caesar another Punjabi speaker,
    use to exhort his legions and minions in Punjabi. [Gujranwala dialect]
    Here is something which is a deep British secret. A conspiracy, truly.
    Shakespeare wrote in Punjabi ! Since there is no Punjabi script, poor man
    had to use the English alphabet. As everyone knows,..”sudda gobi bhindi”
    means….’To be,… or not to be’ [ from Hamlet ]Recommend

  • Khurram

    totally agree with you the concept of martial races started by the british and continously fed down the throats of all the subcontinent leading to some deluded people and ethnicities to believe that is the caseRecommend

  • Khurram

    th elanguage that will survive is the one that people will now communicate and text and email. we can start with atleats greetings and the first few sentences in punjabi to bring it back and buy books written by punjabi authorsRecommend

  • Sami

    So talking about Punjabi is racism?. It is a clear fact that Jinnah made sure that any language other than Urdu will be abandoned. This led to the downfall of Bangladesh and that is a fact. Infact imposing Urdu is a real racism my friend.
    Your comment is full of hatred and show us the real face that how much hatred you carry against Punjabi language.You used the word Gibberish for my mother tongue. The people like you can only act as warriors on the internet. In real life you will never dare to talk like that.

    Visit countries like Germany or any European country. In every 50 km you will find many new words, pronunciation and dialects. This adds to the richness of culture, but people with hatred like you will never understand that.Recommend

  • Sami

    I am a Muslim Punjabi and my mother tongue is Punjabi and will always be. Who are you to talk on my behalf.?. Also I am sure you are not from Punjab. We all know which community call themselves intellectually better than the others based on Urdu language.Recommend

  • Sami

    Look at Europe. Your argument is flawed. Language diversity is not a threat at all. But narrow minded will think it like that.Recommend

  • Humza

    Shahname(h) and Shahmukhi are the names given to the same modified Persian script used for Punjabi in Pakistan. In India, they use Gurmukhi for the Indian dialects of Eastern Punjabi but this came about much later.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    This script is soaked in blood.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Native tried to be

    more bedouin than bedouin,

    more mongolian/turki than mongol who reberted back to their Yog & dharma,

    more Anglo than anglos.

    Time to switch from Mongolian fake khan to Mandarin speaking Chau-Han to be four (chau) times more Han than real Han chinese.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Cultured Arabs dont use dirty word “aurat” but enslaved ones still use it in their Urdu. Native Stree and Mahila are much more divine and organic words.Recommend

  • Sajjad

    It is your comment that is racist.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    What is the point you and me having Semitic name that too corrupted by Bedouinis? We are all humans and whole universe belongs to us so why not we be identified by a 10 digit number?

    Only fools and enslaved people get moronic maglomaniac Jinnah like coconut Londonabadi leaders who caused uprooting of 100s of millions, murder of 10s of millions and rapes of a million women if you add figures of 47 & 71.

    Pakistan breeds terrorists because of uprooting of natives by adopting alien enslaving imperial faiths, language, culture and fake identities. Parasites withput roots suck juices out of healthy plants.

    Time to take one more step towards hell by adopting Mandarin as main language and calling us Chau-Han.
    Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Urdu means Turki army tent. It’s the language of slavery of natives. It need to be banned. English at present language of Science. Sanskrit can be language for storing structured knowledge and also a programming language.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Indian generals bluffed before entering Dhaka. So even in Dhaka maidan mere 3000 Indian soldiers made 35000 Pakistani soldiers lay down their arms.Recommend

  • Nero

    I would laugh at this joke if it wasn’t completely ignorant. Both Hindu and Sikh Punjabis speak Punjabi. Both know Hindi reasonably well. To repeat, most Sikhs know and speak Hindi very well. Language is restricted by religion. It is a factor of your ethnicity and place of residence.Recommend

  • Nero

    Simply incorrect. At no point of known history was modern Punjab (both India and Pakistan) was ruled by Persians. Trying to find a Persian root for the name Punjab is hilarious. The root word is “panch nad”. However, this takes the cake – “When the word Punjab itself is Persian ( Panj – Ab) what does this have to do with Sikhism which is only several centuries old?” So you mean to say that “Punjab” didn’t exist before Bin Qasim turned up?Recommend

  • Grace

    If you go abroad, Persian speakers do not appreciate Urdu mentioned in the same breath with their language. If you go to UAE, Arabs or expatriate Iranians consider Urdu just like Hindi despite what you say. You may think Urdu sounds sweet but my kids say it sounds like nasal gibberish from a Bollywood film. My kids don’t have a low opinion of themselves. They are just stating a fact that most people think outside of India and Pakistan.Recommend

  • Bibloo

    But you did not care to write and declare your sentiments
    about the jingoist rant from ‘The Truth Bro’ ? Your sanctimonious sermons are only reserved for non – Poonjabee speakers?
    If you agree with him, then you are not much of a going
    concern. Are you? Nada.
    By the way, yours truly, is NOT an Urdu speaker, but a Khowar
    and Kalash-mun speaker, with a smattering of Wakhi.
    [Only a defender of Urdu speakers, anywhere in Pakland]
    Bet you don’t even know where they speak Khowar, Kalasha and Wakhi.
    That should keep you dazed and confused, for months.Recommend

  • Patwari

    Hindus, like you, just don’t seem to get it. Lay down what?
    Empty rifles, empty pistols, empty machine guns? Empty
    tanks?
    Dacca, was declared an open city. Just like Paris in WW 2.
    Had there been street to street, neighborhood to neighborhood,
    fighting, MILLIONS OF BENGALIS would have met their maker.
    Men Women and Children. including hindu Bengalis. Now, do
    you understand? Willing to draw little pictures for you, for better
    understanding.
    Very likely all of this, flew over your head. Because it’s a
    Myth Buster. That myth about hindus winning a war in then.
    East Pakistan. No such thing happened. You can tell this to
    your great grandchildren.Recommend

  • Bibloo

    Well, gibberish, might not have defined it clearly.
    How about hysteria loaded yammering and yowling?
    No need to go to Europe. In Papua/New Guinea, there
    are 1,700 different languages. NOT dialects, languages!
    People in one valley cannot understand neighbors over
    the hill in the next valley. Your definition of Poonjabi is in
    context here. Very similar is it not? Would you not say so?
    Say, did your Poonjabi ancestors migrate from that area near Malaysia? [ British Raj pronunciation]
    By the way, Alexander the Great spoke Poonjabi. He just
    added a D in the middle of every word, and D at the end.
    There, see? How easy it is to speDakD Poonjabi.Recommend

  • Sindus

    Can a Bengali or Bihari who on average is shorter than your average Pashtun or Punjabi and whose diet is more based on fish and rice fight as well as Pashtun/Punjabi in whose culture masculinity and martial spirit is celebrated? Recommend

  • Sindus

    We Punjabis will never give up on our language. Take your totalitarian ideas somewhere else.Recommend

  • Tergon18

    Why are Indians so obsessed with Pakistan? Recommend

  • Sindus

    We need to be proud of our language and culture. Pashtuns speak Pashto, Sindhis speak Sindhi etc so why cant the Punjabi speak Punjabi and be proud of his culture? Punjab wasnt a name given by the British, it is a centuries old culturally rich region with traditions, language and identity of its own. The name Punjab itself is very old and means the land of the five rivers. Punjab Zindabad.Recommend

  • Tergon18

    What native slaves are you talking about? Sanskrit isnt even spoken India.Recommend

  • Sindus

    Bengalis were ethnically and culturally different from Pakistanis. The Two Nation theory isnt demolished its very much intact.Recommend

  • Tergon18

    Punjab has the highest literacy rate in PakistanRecommend

  • Tergon18

    Punjabi is more older and has a more rich history than Urdu.Recommend

  • Sindus

    This comment shows your ignorance and the fact that you have never been to Punjab. It is the Land of the Five Rivers. While there are slight differences in dialects, as in every language in the world, from the Northern most corner of Punjab to the southern most, there would be a variation in dialect but a Punjabi speaker can understand quite well what is being said. You would know this if you had actually ever been to Punjab. Recommend

  • jay

    better than an image of Bilawal Bhutto.Recommend

  • MK Marri

    Same goes for baluchi. We have 9000 old History while Pakistan is not more than 70 years old. So we should apply two nation theory and have our independent Secular democratic republic of Baluchistan.Recommend

  • jay

    No wonder Pakistan has almost ZERO contribution towards anything worth while for Humanity . yeah but i am sure u have mastered the art of fighting Recommend

  • jay

    For us Pakistanis are like lab rats . this is not obsession just a good laugh .Recommend

  • Bibloo

    Very true. Right. It was invented before man even arrived on the scene. They say the Neanderthals muttered it in the Stone Age.
    Say about 150,000 years ago. That’s great. Stupendous. See?
    Poonjabees are related to the Sone Age people. Neanderthals.
    And some archaeologists go so far as to claim Egyptian hieroglyphics are ancient Poonjabee writing. The Egyptians
    alone go back to 3,500 B.C.E. ! That would be almost 6,000
    years, give or take a birthday of Nawaz bin Salman bin Sharif.
    So take your pick. Neanderthals or Egyptians.Recommend

  • Rohan

    We won you lost.PeriodRecommend

  • Rohan

    Bengalis were ethnically and culturally different from Pakistanis.

    That’s why it was demolished and dumped in the bay of bengalRecommend

  • Rohan

    Punjabi and pashtun dominated the Pakistani army which lost all wars against India.Some martial races they are!!!Recommend

  • stevenson

    Sad that saying the obvious so easily offends you. I am not ‘t saying a well trained Bihari, Gujrati, Bengali or UP wala can’t be a good soldier. And why bring religion into this? It’s an obvious fact that Punjabis, Baluchis and Pashtuns are physically bigger and stronger which is why British recruited them in the army to fight Japanese and Germans in the World Wars. You can choose to fight with smaller people who can be just as brave but I think most people would want the bigger soldiers on their side. You don’t need the British to show you obvious physical differences !The point is that the British feared and used some races for fighting and they did try to ban Punjabi so much of the need to quash Punjabi language comes from British mentality that it is dangerous and backward. People should not be brainwashed by British ideas in Pakistan any more.Recommend

  • stevenson

    Your obsession with all things Pakistani is unhealthy. You may think that your comments will somehow erase your own sense of inferiority or insecurity over 1000 years of Muslim rule over South Asia. It’s easier for you to just be thankful that the British came and created modern India and gave you freedom. As for Indo – Pak wars, in 1947 Pak held its own and gained territory despite being cheated of arms and resources by Britain and India, Early 60s Rann of Kutch was a victory for Pak, 1965 was a draw according to most observers and 1971 saw Pak forces fighting an insurgency in the East with India cleverly taking advantage of a civil war. Trolling Pak news sites won’t wash away your insecurity but it may give you another viewpoint.Recommend

  • stevenson

    You need to just read National Geographic Magazine if you don’t have access to historical texts. Much of Pakistan including Punjab was a satrapy ( province) of the Persian Achaemenian Empire for several centuries. Even Greek historians of the era such as Heroditus and Arrian confirm this. It was only with the arrival of the Greeks in 330 BC that Punjab was no longer aligned with now defeated Persians. Ancient Persians of that era have nothing to do with Islam or Arabs so why bring up Bin Qasim? If you don’t agree that Panj Ab means 5 rivers in Persian, it seems that you need to do more reading.Recommend

  • Jatt Sher

    Punjab was ruled by the Indo-Greeks, Scythians (Iranic), Kushans (Iranic) and the white Huns, historically. And the word Punjab is a Persian word meaning land of the five rivers. This is just common knowledge. ‘Panch nad’? That does not even make sense. And nobody said that Punjab didnt exist before Muhammad bin Qasim.Recommend

  • Jatt Sher

    Look at the size of the Indian army. Then look at the size of the Pakistani army. Pakistan despite being overwhelmingly outnumbered gave India (and Mukti Bahini in 1971) a tough fight in all the wars and even managed to get a part of Kashmir in 1947 despite having lesser soldiers, officers, equipment. Recommend

  • Jatt Sher

    There is not much difference in dialects in Punjab. And stop trying to be funny, you are coming off as very idiotic.Recommend

  • Jatt Sher

    By the same logic Sindhis, Pashtuns, Punjabis, Gilgitis and Hazaras should have their own nation. India can be divided into 30 nations if ethnicities are taken into account.Recommend

  • Patwari

    You claim to be a Baloch? Nope, you are not.
    You know why? Because you spelled Baloch wrong!!
    It’s not “baluchi?
    So what is your real hindu name? Gopal, Rahul, Bavan?
    Thingus Ram? Gogaram? Bindunath?Recommend

  • Patwari

    Hmm…you know which community? Well, it’s plural, communities.
    It is Sindhis, Balochis, Pathans, Urdu speaking Muhajjirs from
    North India, Chitralis, Hazaras, Baltis, Hunzais, Kalasha,…ALL !
    See, none of them like the arrogant, Metro, Green Line, Purple
    Line, Yellow Bus Service, This thru way, That Thru Way,… Punjabis.
    The Raja of Raiwind, Nawaz and his Vizier Shahbaz are hoarding
    the money in Sharifistan. Also known as Punjab.
    While the rest of the country starves. With an ongoing famine in
    Thar for last 2 years.
    You follow?Recommend

  • Bibloo

    “All super hit songs are in Punjabi”
    Need anything be said further? This is what typical Punjabi
    mentality. Nothing about education…in Poonjabee.
    No math, no geometry, no geography, no chemistry, no physics…
    But all the hit songs are in POONJABEE. Allah be praised.Recommend

  • Abdullah Ahmad

    In Europe Catholics and protestants get along without killing each other.

    Does this mean religious diversity is not a threat?

    In pakistan do sunnis and shia get along? Do Christians and Muslims get along without violence?

    If we can make religious diversity violent, its a given that we can make other forms of diversity violent

    Because one thing is in Europe is working it does not mean it will be the same in the rest of the world. Its not a scientific law. But the narrow-minded will think it that way.Recommend

  • Abdullah Ahmad

    Listen here.

    My point of quoting jinnah is not to advocate him( my opinion on him is irrelevant ). The point is to show that other people recognize the need for one single language.

    History is irrelevant. Only practicality is the goal.

    The reason why we arent all identified by numbers is because they are hard to remember.

    Residing in Pakistan, there are ONLY two languages you need to know. Urdu and english.
    Why should a child need to learn 3 language and every other god-forsaken dialect of this complicated language.

    The reason why we dont adopt mandarin? Is becuase its not used here.

    Tell me a good practical reason to learn punjabi ( ” Its in our history, its in our blood, etc etc is useless subjective reasons. ) WHEN was the last time you ever needed punjabi or any other backwater language to move around in life? No you dident. Americans dont need to know any other language because English works everywhere for them.

    One should only be made to learn the languages that are the most relevant to his surroundings. A pakistani needs only english and urdu. A hindu only needs hindi and english. A chinese man only needs to learn mandarin because english is barely used in china.Recommend

  • Abdullah Ahmad

    Im punjabi myself. Im not as narrow minded as you, fortunately.

    One question, only one. Give me a practical reason to learn urdu.Recommend

  • Abdullah Ahmad

    I only quoted jinnah to show that others thought that we needed unity.

    We dont adopt mandarin, becuase its not practical.

    Punjabi is useless, because it is impractical. Every 100 km has their own way of speaking.

    We dont call each other by numbers because it is impractical.

    One should only be made to learn the languages that are directly useful/relevant to his life , and should leave all these bullshit languages that have no objective use to old books and language studies classes in universities.

    BTW this is coming from a punjabi, i was born in the punjab with a purely punjabi heritage.And i can see the need for the old to die and the new to come in.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    I would certainly like to have claim to Indian civilization since most of my ancestors were Hindu. In 17th century one of the coward ancestor of mine just like Antulay (ex CM of Maharashtra) converted from a kokanasth bramhin Agashe to Antulay. In my case it was 96 kuli Maratha. I wont allow cutting of my roots to become rootless parasites like Pakistani elite who are trying to be more Anglo than Anglos themselves and more Bedouin than Bedouins themselves. Soon you will claim that you are four times more Chinese Hans since some of you have Chau-Han as last name. Eventually we will revert back to our proud Maratha Hinduness just as Smt. Mastani Bajirao Patwardhan’s progeny in 1970s reverted back to Hindu Dharma. Recommend

  • Bibloo

    Don’t parrot and ape others ‘comments’. See if you can be original.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    Patwari ji this is narration of Bangladeshi and not of Hindu Indian. https://youtu.be/NKHd6eZ4TLQRecommend

  • Patwari

    Is this a special Bollywood concoction? Say, ordered by Modi, Himself? Pretty shoddy production
    values. Bad lightening. TSound is not good. Scratchy. Just by looking at the
    graphics, without even running it.
    So you Indians have these videos, that you watch, and gloat over once a day? And say “Yup, we done had a victory over
    them Pakistanis soldiers, who were starving, out of ammunition and surrounded by our one million hindu soldiers.”
    Your grandchildren will be happy. You can tell them this tale.
    That’s OK. You can claim this lopsided victory. If it will
    make your cheerless lives a little better. No problem there.
    By the way, Bangladesh is still a Bharati poodle? Lapdog?
    And did you really think, this video or virus load red screen phish would be opened and run by ‘Patwari’ ?Recommend

  • Rohan

    Pakistan fought all wars and lost all wars.The 1947 war began after Pakistan illegally grabbed Kashmir
    Plus India which included Pakistan was dominated for 4,000 yrs by Hindu intellectuals before the Islamic rule so are you ashamed of your Hindu past/ancestorsRecommend

  • Rohan

    India only mobilized 6,000 soldiers who made 93,000 soldiers who were Punjabi or pashtun surrender
    Pakistan got Kashmir before the war began hence UN resolutions ask you to ‘ENTIRELY’ vacate occupied KashmirRecommend

  • Rohan

    Gurumukhi came much before shahmukhi, the latter was mobilized through mughals and was given importance due to ideological reasons after 47Recommend

  • David

    Ever Heard of the Gorkhas?Recommend

  • Humza

    Don’t you know that Gurmukhi ( Guru’s mouth) is the form of Punjabi used by Sikhs so it only came about after the 1600s? Punjabi has appeared in writting before Sikhism existed. Punjabi writings from before appear in Shahname or Shahmukhi in the Persian Nastaliq script used for writings by people like Baba Fareed. Bulleh Shah and Sufis came later but it’s all in Shahname. Find the original Heer Ranja story in Punjabi which is in Shahname also. The older generation of Skihs would read and write in Persian script too but Indian independence has killed off the Persian script in Indian Punjab but not in Pak Punjab so it is easy for people to write Punjabi in the original script in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Max Rabbe

    You come across as a racist against Pakistanis. I am sure you are not from the Northern Areas because you would appreciate the importance of mother tongues in Pakistan. You don’t speak Kalasha, Khowar, Wakhi, Shina or Punjabi but Hindi. If you hate Pakistanis so much, why not stay in India and read your own news?Recommend

  • siesmann

    People who don’t think that language played a role in the break-up of Pakistan should know in whose memory the Mother Tongue Day was created..

    ——the lion-hearted students Rafiq, Jabbar, Salam, Borkot and so on who died during a protest at the University of Dhaka on February 21, 1952 — the people in Bangladesh celebrate International Mother Language Day by laying down flowers to the Martyr’s Monument (Shaheed Minar) and replications of that monument.

    The people organize social gatherings, where they honor their language and culture, and hold literary competitions, draw Alpana on the roads, eat festive meals and listen to event themed songs, e.g. the “Amar Bhaiyer Rakte Rangano” (translated: “Coloured in the blood of my brother”)Recommend

  • nishantsirohi123

    In Pakistani punjab, if you hear someone speak punjabi is either the person is angry, drunk or a villager (ganwar paindu)
    In indian punjab, if your education is from outside of the state, then you’ll have to clear the exam of class 10th of punjabi language to be eligible for applying for any state government job (even for a peon)
    I hope this clears the confusion Recommend

  • Tayyab

    I’ve always found this notion of ‘mother tongue’ & ‘mother land’ as to be blown way out of proportions. Being born in a certain part of the world and among people who speak a certain language is totally arbitrary, you choose neither of it; why affix so much importance & sensitivity to it then. I have no grudge against people who affiliate with a certain piece of land or language at all, its their personal right, but the idea of not adhering to it should not be stigmatized, as it so often is. I am not born in a certain country, culture, language, religion etc with choice, but thereafter I should be free to disassociate & find a new bearing if I so wish without being looked down upon.Recommend

  • siesmann

    then how is it that even science books upto senior high school in Indian Punjab are still in Punjabi ,just like all the other languages in India.It is the exclusive misfortune and self-hatred of Pakisatani Punjabis that they hate their mother tongue.A language is not peaceful or non-peaceful.It is people who speak a language that make it so.Punjabi has been the language of many great sufi masters besides others.Punajbi is not Sikh,Hindu or Muslim.It is all of them together.Recommend

  • Rohan

    Yes, the Bengali bihari mukhti bahini thrashed the Punjabi army of Pakistan and gained freedomRecommend

  • Humza

    No. Shahnahme or Shahmukhi of modified Persian script predates Gurmukhi. Do you not know that Baba Fareed’s writings in the modified Persian script used for Punjabi were written long before the existence of Sikhism and Gurmukhi.Recommend

  • Jatt Sher

    The first poet of Punjabi, Baba Fariddudin Ganjshakar wrote in Shahmukhi, Bulleh Shah and Waris Shah wrote their poetry in Shahmukhi, Heer Ranjha, Sassi Punni was written in Shahmukhi, all major works in Punjabi have been written in Shahmukhi. You dont know anything about Punjabi.Recommend

  • Jatt Sher

    Pakistan was facing a war on two fronts and was overwhelmingly outnumbered and it still fought valiantly.Recommend

  • Jatt Sher

    ZERO contribution? Just go search about Dr. Abdus Salam, Pervez Hoodhboy, Samar Mubarakmand etc. Recommend

  • Jatt Sher

    There is not much change in dialects in Punjabi. A Punjabi from Attock can understand the Punjabi of a Multani. Minor changes in dialect are present in all languages. That does not mean that we should let those languages become extinct. And I am not saying that we should stop learning Urdu and replace it with Punjabi. Urdu is the common language between the four provinces and we should all speak it however one must not forget his culture and mother language. The Urdu we speak is corrupted by Hindi loanwords as well and it should be purified. The Urdu of Ghalib, Amir Khusraw etc was much different.Recommend