Pakistan should put its own house in order before jumping into an arms race

Published: July 28, 2015
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For every rupee paid in taxes, 26 paisas will be spent for homeland security,

I’m a peacenik and I’m happy in my skin. As an active journalist, I have covered enough wars, had my fair share of good and bad fortune, experienced torture and witnessed people maimed, lamed and face the ultimate fate of death. I got emotionally drained and ultimately decided that it was time to say goodbye to the action and adventure.

In my quest to understand life better, I used spirituality as my crutch. I realised that all we need is to counter hatred with love, aggression with passion and hostility with peace. I learnt that the beast of vice is intrinsically ingrained in us humans and it can be tamed with tactful strategising to effectively branch out with kindness, social diplomacy and academic prowess.

Pakistan’s history is somewhat like the story of my life. The country has fought several wars, been involved in countless documented and undocumented number of minor conflicts and continues to face a perpetual battle against religious extremism. Its society is bitterly divided into haves and have not’s, privileged and under-privileged, to a point that it is pointless to even talk about providing the basics of life to those who get crushed everyday under the wheels of a truckload of insensitive boneheads who matter and run the affairs of the state. The teeming millions go about their lives without guarantees of life, liberty and equality and the freedom to excel.

With the thought process and the effort to emancipate the ordinary missing in action, Pakistan has been unable to get into grips of its psychological morass slash decline thereby finding itself in a hole of extraordinary setbacks and shipwrecks. I sometimes wonder that even at the ripe old age of almost 68, have Pakistanis messed up by not getting their priorities right or failing to align them to the changing realities of time?

I say all this in the backdrop of several developments that have caught my eye recently. For instance, why in the world is Pakistan buying eight submarines from China? Why did the powers-that-be decide to jack up 11 per cent of its defence budget? This means that for every rupee paid in taxes, 26 paisas will be spent for homeland security. This is more than one quarter of the country’s economy being mortgaged to just keep the frontiers intact. I find this shockingly disgraceful! So, I ventured to talk to some South Asia watchers to understand the intricacies of these atrocious developments.

I was told that from a perspective of cost effectiveness, while buying submarines in bulk may not make much sense, Pakistan’s reasoning that they need sea-based submarine platforms on which to mount nuclear cruise missiles to provide a ‘triad’ of nuclear systems to match India in some sense is understandable. Pakistan doesn’t have the capability or wherewithal to design, build and mount ballistic missiles in conventional submarines. But it probably does have the capability to fire cruise missiles through torpedo launch tubes. The underlying aspect is that they would have survivability as submarines under Indian attack and, therefore, provide a nuclear second-strike capability.

It is also possible to mount some sort of missile launcher onto the top of a conventional submarine that could fire off cruise missiles after the submarine has surfaced. It avoids detection by staying submerged until it has reached a launch point or has received an order to fire, and then surfaces. This is consistent with survivability of the crude second-strike capability.

Fine, I get it. But here’s what I don’t understand. Pakistan is a country drowned in poverty. Its population is devoid of the basics of life characterised by lack of planning and infrastructure. Cultural, religious and societal ignorance reign supreme instigating nothing but strains of violence and extremism. Lack of education and the absence of opportunities to draw the less fortunate into mainstream social milieu has only marginalised a huge segment of the oppressed class and pushed them into further darkness.

Granted that Islamabad considers itself China’s lapdog, the reality is that Beijing is all about business. To China, Pakistan is just another Guinea pig, a tool in Beijing’s elaborate design to expand geographically and play a more effective role in world politics.

Pakistan buying more weapons and adding to the firepower only angers India, resulting in an awkwardly nasty relational paradigm. But it doesn’t mean that Islamabad’s patching up with its archenemy is beyond the realm of possibility. It also doesn’t mean that such an act would amount to cowardice.

Indians and Pakistanis undeniably share the same roots, heritage and culture. Understood that lately there’s been an increased people-to-people interaction, still an incredible amount of ground remains to be covered in terms of streamlining relations. This is all the more reason not to waste energy gathering defence resources or pursue hostile means, but engage with neighbours to ensure that radical steps to alleviate tensions are persuasively taken to mould and melt people’s hearts in a vociferous manner.

I’m a dreamer and I’ll continue dreaming of an everlasting India-Pakistan détente. If Cuba and the US can fix half a century of problems and if Iran and the US can break decades of diplomatic impasse, why can’t India and Pakistan politically coexist and move on with their lives?

Why can’t Pakistan not understand the efficacy of peace and put its own house in order before jumping into an arms race of sorts? Talking peace does not turn one into a wimp and the same rule applies to states. Such a posture only enhances the prestige of nations, setting them apart from others. Talking peace and reasoning out on a discussion table are only hallmarks of maturity.

My message to the Pakistani leadership is to hold their horses and perform a meritorious stocktaking exercise, one that doesn’t antagonise their neighbours, allies and critics. Invest in human capital; give the people the sense of security they deserve. Provide your masses with the basics of life and pull them out of the miserable and primitive times. What’s the rationale of a country’s existence when terrorists cut, burn and kill at will?

The bottom line is, stop being paranoid about outside forces meddling in your affairs. Go after internal insurgencies and hostilities and weave a network of hope, faith and optimism for your own people. For doing all that, you do not need any submarines, missiles or rocket launchers to capture the hearts and minds of millions inside the country and the billions across your borders.

And, keep in mind, ‘if there is no enemy within, the enemy outside can do us no harm’. Find inner peace and rest will take care of itself.

Ahson Saeed Hasan

Ahson Saeed Hasan

The writer is a proud American, a peacenik who has traveled well over 80 countries and lived in four continents. He likes to share his experiences and reflect on the worldly surroundings. He tweets @tweetingacho (twitter.com/tweetingacho)

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Headstrong

    A well meaning article, but divorced from reality. Sir, you know who calls the shots in pakistan. Do you really expect your views to find resonance in those quarters? It would be better for you to argue that pakistan learn from history. Having been soundly beaten in all its misadventures, the gap only increases – be it economy, conventional, people resources, and any other resource you would like to consider. The obsession to be equated with India, when the world has coined a catch-all phrase Af-pak, is the underlying reason. Have a look at your news – the writers (copiers) pounce on anything negative and thus perpetuate the underlying hatred in your society. Watch the responses to this comment – the pigeon will be dug out, drones, RAW etc etc. Then somebody from my side will respond with the fans in Rajasthan which send heat waves etc etc. Believe me, until you relegate your security establishment to the background, as we have done, this will continue. Bottom line – you do not have the economy to sustain this and your society will disintegrate (as is already happening).
    Good luck to you, though, in convincing your compatriotsRecommend

  • PatelPara

    “The writer is a Washington DC based journalist” what else should we expect from him? Another defeatist apologetic person who will be given space only by Pakistani media.Recommend

  • Milind A

    “Pakistan should put its own house in order”

    When was it a real house? It was always a house of cards with shaky foundations, at best a Bedouin’s tent, with different peoples having nothing much in common being tied together by a weak strand Recommend

  • Maverick_NZ

    Completely agree with your concerns. However, Pakistan, as any other country (UK post WWII, US throughout its history, China post communism) needs to maintain ‘minimum deterrence’, which in this case is MAD (mutually assured destruction). The Nuclear triad is part of the MAD.

    Anything above and beyond that (conventional superiority) takes a back seat, and it seems to have taken a back seat indeed. So we don’t need to completely neglect our armed forces while pursuing economic revival.Recommend

  • Saj

    Any nationalistic race for advancement in (weapons, space, cyber space, even a cricket league) that emphasizes indigenous development is the key stone that holds together the steps to human development. I for one strongly encourage it for the sake of our country and our neighboring countries. Civilizations must compete (peacefully) on all spheres for man kind to progress.Recommend

  • Queen

    While I appreciate author’s sentiments of establishing friendly ties between Pakistan and India, but keeping in view the regional situation, it seems unlikely that peace can be achieved in near future. I am sure that being a journalist, the author is aware of the political history of the subcontinent and the history of arms race in the region. It is unfair to allege Pakistan of starting an arms race in the region when it was India that started nuclear arms race by carrying out nuclear tests in 1974.The author must be fully aware of India‘s doctrinal transformation that is inclined to maximize its relative power to blackmail Pakistan. Meanwhile, Pakistan‘s pursuit for tactical military weapons is very much to maximize its security by sustaining and enduring the prevalent strategic equilibrium with its eastern neighbor. Pakistan has repeatedly reiterated its policy of minimum credible deterrence especially against India’s Cold Start Military Doctrine. The US-India strategic partnership and the US-India civil nuclear deal have threatened regional stability. Pakistan has continuously endeavored to preserve the balance of power in the region because unlike like other regional neighboring countries Pakistan refuses to succumb to Indian hegemonic designs . Pakistan may have limited options to cope with the Indian threat due to its economic challenges, but it still has room for maneuvering. Peace will established in the region on the day when India will realize that Pakistan is a sovereign country in the region with which relations should be established on the basis of respect and equality.Recommend

  • Shiraz

    I doubt if you ever had a respect for IK? Arm chair intellectuals have their interests in status quo and whoevet tries to change it will attract the wrath of them. Recommend

  • Nadeem Ahmad

    I don’t understand, why some of the Pakistanis, sitting in American’s lap, try to portray to be Americans more than Americans?? What they get in return by backbiting Pakistan?? Don’t spend on defense while your enemy is spending 10 folds than you??? If India sneezes, in next moment, blame Pakistan!! and you want Pak to be ignorant of its defense?? Either come to Pakistan or Please keep your suggestions either in America or within yourself, please!!!Recommend

  • Sham Sun

    You have neglected basic issues that compelled Pakistan to become part of arms race unwillingly. Unfortunately, the tyranny of geography – a volatile neighbourhood and the main fault lines of geopolitics have consistently put security at the top of Pakistan’s national agenda. At present Pakistan confronts a number of conventional
    and asymmetric, traditional and non-traditional challenges, hard and soft threats. Externally, Pakistan’s twin challenges are its relations with India and Afghanistan. Both fronts have posed enduring security dilemmas. That is why Pakistan has, over the years, tried to avoid being confronted by a two-front situation.Recommend

  • Hamida Hamid

    You live in a parallel world which only exist in your imagination. Weaker nation disappear from face of earth. Best guarantee for peace is mutually assured destruction. Recommend

  • Sane

    The tension between Pakistan and India shall never diffuse what to talk about friendship. India, where minorities including Muslims are killed by Hindu fanatics. Where 800,000 armed Indian forces have besieged occupied Kashmir. Where women are raped specially foreigners. The country which is epicenter of terrorism and exports terrorism to neighbor countriesRecommend

  • Tenzing Norgay

    Pakistan is filled with
    intolerance. The State does not have it’s writ anywhere outside of
    Islamabad. The country lives from loan to
    loan.There is a stagnant near dead economy. Compared to the vibrant
    economic Asian Tigers,..Pakistan is an Asian Jackal. If you don’t see all
    this..it is because your head is buried in the sand. And you are a jingoist
    who refuses to face reality.
    Would you say the same rant if the author wrote from Somalia? Malaysia?
    Japan? Sudan? Phillippines? Brunei?Recommend

  • Concard

    Pakistan doesn’t have the capability or wherewithal to design, build and mount ballistic missiles in conventional submarines. But it probably does have the capability to fire cruise missiles through torpedo launch tubes

    You can’t fire cruise missiles through torpedo launch tubes as the points are at the bottom which will still be under water when submarine is surfaced. And no one uses cruise missiles to bring down ships or aircraft carriers. Pakistan has been flirting with the idea somehow their missiles could be fitted on conventional submarine. There is nothing more funnier than that. Pakistan hasn’t even tested by firing missiles under water and miniaturized them to fit into submarines. Only Nuclear submarines are bigger, powerful enough to carry big ballistic missiles.Recommend

  • Abhishek Chaturvedi

    pakistan is sovereign ? lol… gimme a break… u want respect …look at yourselves in the mirror and then talk….respect for a failed state..Recommend

  • Abhishek Chaturvedi

    pakistanis directly beg from USA and IMF …. wow what a country..Recommend

  • Schindler Bob

    @Author please read this article
    “Indian investment in nuclear submarine is a quite obvious step taken because for the sea denial missions, submarine is a veracious choice of weapon. Factually sea based deterrence is more favorable to Pakistan’s strategic advantages, as it serves many implicit opportunities. The most vulnerable part of Indian defence is its coastal belt and the ultimate deterrent in Pakistan strategic objectives could be its navy, which can infiltrate deeper inside Indian Territory with the element of surprise attack.”

    http://foreignpolicynews.org/2015/07/10/indian-ocean-a-zone-of-benefits-or-conflicts/Recommend

  • Commemtator

    @author
    Have you heard about psy-ops; the psychological operations are a significant part of many govts for military, political and ideological activities, mainly used to secure their national interests and objectives.
    It is time for people like you to understand that there are foreign elements meddling in Pakistan’s affairs. The internal insurgencies and hostilities are result of such meddling. Remember the Modi’s statement about India’s role in Bangladesh and 1971 war???
    And submarines, missiles and rocket launchers are integral part of modern warfare that no one can deny the fact of their importance in today’s world!!Recommend

  • Maverick_NZ

    ‘The State does not have it’s write anywhere outside of Islamabad’

    Jeez, what planet is this guy living on?Recommend

  • Bairooni Haath

    India has Bangladesh, Nepal, Myanmar and Sri Lanka as neighbors. None of them is involved in an Arms race with India. In 1946 Bengali Muslims in East Bengal voted 95 % to separate from India. After they became an Independent nation in 1971, they decided that friendship with India is more beneficial. Pakistan somehow continues to define itself as the not-India. Once the most prosperous region of the Indian subcontinent, Pakistan is behind Bangladesh in most social indicators, Bangladesh is already ahead of Pakistan in exports and education, it is just a matter of time before Bangladesh GDP is higher than Pakistan. Okay you were not happy with what you got in the partition, but to correct that Pakistan has continued to hurt itself for 70 years. With each passing decade, Pakistan falls further behind its neighbors. The civilian government of Pakistan realizes that this is not sustainable, but they are labeled as traitors and the military, which seeks to keep that enmity alive is seen as patriotic.Recommend

  • Vectra

    Well tenzing is right,outside islamabad not even sindh,baluchistan and khyber paktun are respecting the islamabad or islamabad govt or federal govt to be more better within pakistan itself,let alone outside pakistanRecommend

  • Vectra

    So what,your so called enemy has 10 times bigger economy so it is justifiably using ten times the budget that is obvious,your economy is ten times less so you should spend 10 times less budget on defense.1st build 10 times more economy as your enemy did then compare with your so called enemy.Your this kind of silly excuses have no takers outside pakistan.Recommend

  • BhikhariBasher

    Clearly one that you aren’t living on. Wake up and smell the coffee.Recommend

  • Vectra

    Ther is no concept of MAD (mutually assured destruction),MAD was there once but now it is transforming from MAD to “Massive Retaliation”.MAD concept is now a age old era concept as pakistan can nuke one or two Indian cities or let say 2 cities more but not more than that.That will not cause MAD to India but India’s massive retaliation concept will wipe entire pakistan.Remember now India is saying we are ready for MAD,why is India so confident??Because India knew MAD concept is now obsolete and Massive Retaliation is the new concept.So better dont bring Nuclear war here,a war that too you cant win.Recommend

  • Zahid Loan

    The writer lacks the understanding of Realpolitick – he sees things from Zionist occupied America. Pakistan need strong defences, others such India and Zioinst controlled America have it, in order to project its influence. The whole article does not make sense and is riddled with contradictions. An arms race also means expansion of domestic industry – making tanks can easily be converted into makig cars and so on.Recommend

  • Anon

    Maintaining credible minimum deterrence against India is essential for Pakistan. The Indian aims of strategic domination of the sub continent and American support for that (because of it’s perceived threat of China) is destabilizing the regionRecommend

  • Mohsin Habib

    I clearly have no idea why did you write this when you have no idea about Indian mania with arms purchase. $150 billion worth of purchases by them and comparing India Pakistan with U.S Cuba relations, I live here in US too but please before coming as peace loving desi liberal, understand the ground reality first.Recommend

  • Milind A

    Pakistan has besieged and illegally occupied Baluchistan, FATA. Peshawar is actually part of Afghanistan… Foreigners are beheaded in Pakistan, minorities are running off to India. Hindu women are abducted and forcibly converted. Ahmadis are blown off. And you blame usRecommend

  • devinder Singh

    You are wasting your time and your thoughts.pakistani never learnt from histiry.pakistan fighting for those kashmiri who doesn’t want to join Pakistan. Reality is jammu and kashmir has 10 crore population and vally has 5to7 km pocket with pooulation of 8000 peoole, who has under influenced of huriyat or Pakistan thinking that all jammu and kashmir want to join pakistan.do you think we indian don’t know.reality is kashmir has shia budhiest hindus sikhs mix population or we kashmiri doesn’t even want to listen Pakistan name.handfull people can’t dictate the state that why UN never supported you but its your wish if you people wanna live in denial mode.we will never allow you destroy vally again…..both regional political party are patriotic kashmiri party and now both national parties are stake holder in jammu and kashmir second Indian army has special power in jammu and kashmir.indian army is a veto power and also a stake holder in state.this a a constitution provision. Nehru was very smart.when he gave special status to jammu and kashmir that time he also added indian army as a stake holder or father of farooq obdhula was a nehru close friend or he also knew this.this is a current status quo.pakistan can’t do anything bcz when indira gandhi returned90000 POW that time bhutto signed and LOC BECAME international border and passed by indian parliment or now to change this legal position party need 2/3majority in both house or this time mr modi has a full majority he never allow this or regional parties can’t do anything that why india not bothered geelani tyoe idiots.this is current realityRecommend

  • AAMIR

    WHO said pakistan is sovereign.A country which is running from loans of imf and china and whose ambitious future only depend on single investment of china that is $46 billion cant brag about sovereignty ,previously pakistan put itself on rent of USA now its CHINA’S turn, in future it will be another country.Recommend

  • AAMIR

    TELL something about missing persons of baloachistan,killing of C.M AKBAR BUGTI, Blasphemy case of asia bibi,,burning of christian couple last year,how do u come to know that no innocent people are living in fata area where ur army is pondering bombs have ur media dare to go there to cover news,does innocent displaced people from fata get relief or r they living miserable life.Recommend

  • MH

    Great reply Nadeem !!!Recommend

  • Tenzing Norgay

    The extremists/terrorists come and blow up your courts,
    5 courthouses, right in the heart of Islamabad. With impunity.
    Just after the Interior Minister Nisar announced “Islamabad
    is the safest city”…Hazaras are killed daily like flies. They
    don’t even make the news. Two educators, run out of the country, from Karachi. One severely injured, the other ran for
    her life. One a Medical college professor, the other an eminent scholar/professor. Safoora Goth Massacre, 45 people killed inside a bus . with impunity. Chilas incident, Chitral/Gilgit, 16 men pulled off a bus and shot dead. Joseph Colony, 200 burned, shot, beaten to death by a frenzied mob. While the police stood and watched. A Shia neighborhood blown up in Karachi, 225 dead,about 400 injured. Wagah Border bombing, 96 dead more than 200 injured. 18 foreign mountain climbers butchered at base camp of Godwin Austen. Peshawar Church bombing 102 killed about 250 injured. Peshawar restaurant bombing 36 killed, 52 injured
    Dera Ismail Khan jailbreak 250 extremists freed. Bannu
    jailbreak, 400 prisoners freed ! ! Christian couple beaten hanged and then burnt to death. While policemen stood and watched. Nope.The State does not have it’s writ anywhere.
    All of this transpired within the last 3 years.
    So, what planet are YOU living on?Recommend

  • Ahmed Wajid

    Don’t burn and please learn some manners.Recommend

  • rationalist

    Good sentiments and well-articulated article. The solution to Pakistan’s problems lies in studying why Bangladesh is at peace and progressing faster. After all, wasn’t Bangladesh a bigger part of the old Pakistan?

    Bangladesh is not suffering from an existential paranoia vis-a-vis India and doesn’t see the need to spend a huge amount on defense against India. It doesn’t fear that India is going to swallow it up. BD doesn’t burden itself with an endless confrontation with India by chaining its own leg with meaningless and unwinnable obsession such as Kashmir. BD doesn’t see the need to promote terror groups against India or wage wars. It doesn’t pretend to the be the torch-bearers for the Islamic world.

    If Pakistanis honestly study BD-India situation, they will see the light. No one in India wants to annexe Pakistan, a country full of hostile Muslims. In fact, over 95% of Indians would reject it if Pakistan itself wants to join India voluntarily. There is no win for Pakistan in its confrontation against India. No sane Kashmiri wants to join Pakistan, a country going backward economically and ridden with growing intolerance and religious radicalism. Pakistan is a good example of congenital cognitive dissonance that is kept alive by institutionalized brainwashing.Recommend

  • observer

    Well, Bangladesh definitely is a weaker nation. Does it fear of “disappearing” from the world due to Indian occupation?Recommend

  • rationalist

    “Remember the Modi’s statement about India’s role in Bangladesh and 1971 war???”

    1971 BD war was a payback to Pakistan for its 1965 attack of India. If Pakistan hadn’t done the 1965 act, India wouldn’t have had any reason to payback in 1971.Recommend

  • aneel tariq

    well the lapdogs of America like u want pakistan as a 2nd iran. begging superpowers to let them run their country. well how about u shut your mouth and adivise USA to loose its arsenals before asking others. There is nothing u can do about us and we don’t care. Like of America is leaving afghanistan at civil war. u will listen when u hav nuclear knife pressed on your necks. we don’t want to b ira. thank you very much. Recommend

  • Daviduke

    Until Hindus accept Pakistan existence, this will go on. Hate against Pakistan is well known. At this moment, Hindu dohti is on fire, because they are caught red handed using DJI hobby drone configured in Ascom facility. Downloaded data clearly identifies Indians border post with Indian flag. Wait until GPS coordinates are made public. Recommend

  • PatelPara

    Exactly and when you have a 10 times bigger enemy so what should we do just spend peanuts? lolRecommend

  • Tenzing Norgay.

    None of these countries matter. Two of them are land locked.
    One is a Buddhist country, the other a Hindu country. Only Paks
    have the weight and stature to confront India. However, rest of
    your argument holds water. This situation is unsustainable for Paks.
    When 30% of the budget belongs to the Armed Forces. YES 30% !
    In conventional weapons and personnel India far outnumbers and
    and outguns the Paks. It is second to China. Always will be. Because
    as long as this festering enmity persists with the Paks, India is going
    nowhere.Recommend

  • Ahmad, Zubaid

    Please learn some mannersRecommend

  • Ali Rahman

    Mr.Ahson Saeed Hassan, What America is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan if it could not handle itself??? How could 2 towers fell just like a wall of sand??? Journalism doesn’t mean that you say things against anyone specially a country who is fighting with America the war which America pinned on Pakistan. Pakistan has nothing to do with that bloody war but still we’re fighting. Our home is well organized a

    So think over a thousand times before writing against this country. Recommend

  • Ahmad, Zubaid

    Umm..writ doesn’t go beyond Islamabad? What are you on about m8. I live in Sukkhur and there’s plenty of writ here. Please thinking every country is like indiaRecommend

  • Ahmad, Zubaid

    Umm..i live here..there’s plenty of writ..what you on aboutRecommend

  • observer

    Good sentiments and well-articulated article. The solution to Pakistan’s problems lies in studying why Bangladesh is at peace and progressing faster. After all, wasn’t Bangladesh a bigger part of the old Pakistan?

    Bangladesh is not suffering from an existential paranoia vis-a-vis India and doesn’t see the need to spend a huge amount on defense against India. It doesn’t fear that India is going to swallow it up. BD doesn’t burden itself with an endless confrontation with India by chaining its own leg with meaningless and unwinnable obsession such as Kashmir. BD doesn’t see the need to promote terror groups against India or wage wars. It doesn’t pretend to the be the torch-bearers for the Islamic world.

    If Pakistanis honestly study BD-India situation, they will see the light. No one in India wants to annexe Pakistan, a country full of hostile Muslims. In fact, over 95% of Indians would reject it if Pakistan itself wants to join India voluntarily. There is no win for Pakistan in its confrontation against India. No sane Kashmiri wants to join Pakistan, a country going backward economically and ridden with growing intolerance and religious radicalism. Pakistan is a good example of congenital cognitive dissonance that is kept alive by institutionalized brainwashing.Recommend

  • Tenzing Norgay

    Its called the Ostrich Syndrome. Simple definition:- people of a country
    or nation, unable to face stark, deadly reality. Resulting in escapism.
    Positive, positive, positive. Stay positive. Maybe your nice friendly, goody
    neighbor will blow up the whole block in the name of religion. People
    developing an inability to distinguish reality from facts. Living in a
    dream world. Where every thing is/will be fine. A glorious leader will
    come and rescue the beleaguered population. In the meantime blame
    America, India, Israel, England, European Union, the minorities, Shias,
    Ismailis, Hazaras, Zikris, Kalash, Qaddianis,…Anything, any sect, handy,
    except your sad sorry selves.Who ARE the main reason for the headlong
    fall down the slippery slope.Recommend

  • Hassan

    see the queen’s arguments and checkout his response, ..and this is what truly represents india…Recommend

  • Hassan

    great analysis u have some up the real face of india in a nutshell…Recommend

  • Hassan

    hahaha..look who is talking, u have more than 67+ separatist movements in your own country where we hardly have one..check this out honey…house of cards..hahaha… Punjab, Assam, Manipur, Nagaland, Bangal, Chattisgarh, Orrisa, Bihar, Andhra Pradesh, Jammu & Kashmir, Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra & list goes on, who want freedom from india because of brutalities of indian Govt on minorities, Jammu Kashmir & Andhra Pradesh are illegally Occupied by india, the real face of India…Milind see 67+ separatist movements is not a joke janu… trust me India on the verge of breaking up into pieces…Recommend

  • Queen

    I suggest you should read the USAID report which indicates that the United States, over the period 1946-2012, has given India
    the largest amount of economic assistance, while providing Israel the
    greatest quantity of military assistance over the same interval.Recommend

  • Freeman

    Well, Tenzing, if your enterprise are built on a lie from the get-go, ya gotta spend a pretty penny to maintain that lie or else people will wake up and decide to emigrate to better and more copasetic climes as the blogger did. Pakistan is no country for peaceniks.Recommend

  • QB7

    What kind of history have been reading? The kind manufactured to brainwash innocent and gullible people?Recommend

  • Nadeem Ahmad

    Hmmm Nice Mr. Singh, Singhs also never learn, Indian destroyed your sacred place and killed more than 8000 innocent people in one go and later after indira ghandhi murder, another 30000 but if you don’t have respect for your guru and your people, than you should be happy praising your so called country. cheers!!!Recommend

  • QB7

    Well, Hamida, your country was founded on the MAD principle – war with neighbor (from which it was carved out) in 1948 and many hostilities and wars initiated since then.Recommend

  • whatever

    with 67+ separatist movements, India is peaceful and progressing and Pakistan with hardly anyone is getting bombed by american drones and by its own army on daily basis. is it true every muslim living in FATA are terrorist?Recommend

  • Nadeem Ahmad

    Am sorry to say, you don’t have real picture and knowledge of Pakistan. you have cooked info that you are getting from media. State have a writ all over the country. please join me, will take you to tour!! but I suspect you wont dare. Ups and downs come in nations history, and we are back on track!! lets have a dialogue, leave ur number or email!!!Recommend

  • Hassan

    wow too good as if u r living in heaven..tell us about babari masjid, gujrat riots, jammu and kashmir killings and rapes by ur army,the Delhi gang rape According to Justice Leila Seth, “the rape was extremely brutal and it’s something very unusual to find that you not only rape the girl,but you put an iron rod and take out her entrails”…According to the National Crime Records Bureau 2013 annual report, 24,923 rape cases were reported across india where as Pakistan had 850 reported cases..see the difference, tell us about RSS who claims that only hidus have the right to live and rule India,M. S. Golwalkar, the RSS’s sarsangchalak (supreme director) from 1940 to 1973 In an address to RSS members he asserted: “If we Hindus grow stronger,the non-Hindus must either adopt the Hindu culture and language, must learn to respect and revere Hindu religion… Or [they] may stay in the country wholly subordinated to the Hindu nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges.” clap clap clap Recommend

  • Hassan

    And FYI Until the nineteenth century, the word “Hindu” had no specific religious meaning and simply referred to the people who lived east of the Indus River, whatever their beliefs. The Indian Supreme Court itself has held that “no precise meaning can be ascribed to the terms ‘Hindu’ and ‘Hinduism.’” It was only when the census introduced by the British colonial authorities in 1871 included Hindu as a religious designation that many Indians began to think of themselves and their country as Hindu., Gen Zia very well said to rajiv gandi that if there is a war Pakistan might be completely destroyed, but Muslims will still be there in the World, but however with the destruction of India, Hinduism will vanish from the face of this earth’. Recommend

  • Hassan

    awww how innocent..baharatia janatadal and RSS and other extremist groups are all violent groups in India who are attacking Muslims, Christians and other minorities other than Hindus.. Illegal occupation of Jammu and Kashmir, don’t worry there are already 47+ separatist movement in India .first look at your own country then worry about others.Recommend

  • Shah (Berlin)

    And if India would give Kashmiris their rights..1965 would not be required….!!!Recommend

  • Maverick_NZ

    So you can do a google search. Well done.Recommend

  • Maverick_NZ

    I have three words for you: ‘Missile Defence Sheild’. Now roll over.Recommend

  • Parvez

    You may be a journalist and you may have covered conflicts and wars…….but your knowledge of Indo / Pak history must be very sketchy for you to write something like this.Recommend

  • devinder Singh

    Dont worry about us.we know who is friend or enemy.we are the ruler of defender of this land.congress did mistakes that why we finished congress.indira paid price generel vadya paid price.delhi rioters cingress leader paid price. We took revange.that why we hare with digunty and ruling on indian army.indian proud in us.you relaxes and take care your own nationRecommend

  • devinder Singh

    My guru said.never never show faith on Muslims . You people wasting your money and time.we dont want khalisthan.if canadian sikh want khalithan they can make in canada.we are proud here . second my guru also gave word to muslim of malerkotla bcz wajer of malerkotla oppose guru’s sons killing in sirhind.that why we left them in 1947.its upon you if you wanna waste more money you canRecommend

  • Guest

    The boy who dug out her entrails is a Muslim. ET please publish as this is fact.Recommend

  • Tenzing Norgay

    Feel sorry for YOU and your jingoist attitude.Recommend

  • Abhishek Chaturvedi
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  • Abhishek Chaturvedi

    achha oh!!Recommend

  • PatelPara

    Yawn. What did you just said?Recommend

  • Pakistani

    atleast we are a free country.and freedom comes with cost and our missiles submarines tanks army are there to make sure we live free. why dont u raise question on america itself they were having an economic crisis and they were fighting wars costing them billions of dollars.why were they?.what about india which is spending billions of dollars on military hardware are they joking around? we can eat grass but will never give up our freedom.Recommend

  • QB7

    Why does the world keep forgetting Pakistan and its people as great defenders of rights? I wonder if East Pakistanis massacred in 20th century’s great genocide and their loved ones knew that . . . .Recommend

  • QB7

    You wish! Anyway, General Zia was obtuse, ignorant and a religious fanatic. India’s war is with Pakistani Muslims – a strange bellicose and Wahabized subset of the Ummah – not with ALL Muslims. As a test case, remember, since half the Indian Muslims stayed behind – despite Jinnah’s promise of transfer of populations at Partition – their numbers have gone up, not down. If India hated all Muslims, this wouldn’t have happened. Pakistani Muslims have killed more Muslims (69,000 since 9/11 and millions in 1971 in Bangladesh) than unruly mobs in Gujarat and Ayodhya combined, .Recommend

  • QB7

    So, you admit your beloved country is homogenizing fast as you cannot even live with Muslim minorities. That’s the story throughout the Ummah. Saudi, UAE, Turkey, Yemen, Iran, Pakistan – all 100% homogeneous Muslim states or headed to “pure” 100% Muslims status. A side benefit of this lack of diversity – No separatist movements of any kind. Separatist movements can only be extant in living true democracies, not fake ones. Recommend

  • QB7

    Without East Pakistan (now BD) there would be no Pakistan. Its larger population and small land size helped convince the British to go with Partition in such a hurry. India’s non-Muslim population was 75% of the total in 1947 – (West Pakistan received 790,000 sq km of the 980,000 sq km land allotted to Pakistan even though 32 million Muslims refused to move and received no land.) This detail have been shamelessly erased from Pakistani textbooks.Recommend

  • QB7

    Versus 69,000 Pakistani innocents and jihadis killed since 9/11 + million killed during Partition (without which there would have been no massacre) + million Bangladeshis killed by West Pakistani army in 1971 + 4 losing wars started with India + Mumbai attacks (1993 and 2008) + 9/11 + 7/7 + Jihad Central centered in Af-Pak region and many more living souls destroyed. Too much “vengeance is mine” and not enough STEM. Just like IS/Al Qaeda and all those nihilistic Islamic gangs. .Recommend

  • QB7

    Don’t be modest. Your nation has been doing the destabilizing job all by yourself since 1947.Recommend

  • Rohan

    47 is a number you made upRecommend

  • Rohan

    Pakistan, in essence, was created as the negative of India: it was not India. But what was it, then, beyond being a homeland for Muslims? Decades after the horrific bloodbath of Partition, the idea of Pakistan remains hotly debated. It did not help that Jinnah died in 1948, just a year after Pakistan was born, with his plans still ambiguously stated. He authored no books and wrote no policy paper. He did make many speeches, of which several were driven by political expediency and are frankly contradictory. These are freely cherry-picked today, with some finding in them a liberal and secular voice; others, an embodiment of Islamic values. The confusion is irresolvable.Recommend

  • Sane

    First get your house in order. Kashmir Liberation, Khalistan Liberation, Nixelite movement, separatist movements in Jharkhand, Assam etc. due to your Hindu fanatics doctrine this is beefing up and many parts shall be liberated soon.Recommend

  • Freeman

    MJ was a visionary. Jinnah died of a broken heart, weakened by consumption that gave him that haunted gaunt look, as he could envision that the country snatched violently from the very womb of ancient India was going to grow up as the complete antithesis of what he claimed it would be. As a Shia, he would have been a target for oblivion like many Shias, Ahmedis, and other minorities have been. He was a visionary free-riding on other people’s efforts for Independence.Recommend

  • Kulwant Singh

    Please do not try to be erudite as you have no knowledge of Singhs except of a superficial kind.Recommend

  • vasan

    Not only that. Bangladesh and India sorted out the border issue and water sharing arrangements peacefully within 44 years of Bangladesh’ s birth. Speaks a lot compared to Pak’s attitude.Recommend

  • vasan

    There are too many holes in your arguments. It was Pakistan which first fell into the lap of americans with Cento and Near Nato arrangements which threatened India’s security because Pak had the record of initiating a war/pseudo war in 1948 itself looting and raping Kashmir after Kashmir’s accession to India.
    Every one knows that Pak used the weapons bought/recvd from America against India in 1965 war inspite of an explicit condition that they should not be used against India and should only be used against Communist aggression.
    All India’s policies like cold start doctrine etc are in response to the non stopping terrorist infiltration from Pak, Mumbai attacks etc. The nuclear testing was to prepare India against China which had nuclear weapons. To finish off Pak. India does not need nuclear weapons. 1971 like operation would do.
    Balance of power does not exist anywhere in the world. Power is directly proportional to the size. population and economy of the countries. The earlier Pak realizes, the better it is for that. India has no hegemonic designs., No one in the world buys that argument. It seeks to influence other countries for mutual benefit and not for territorial gains.
    India realized long ago that Pak is a sovereign country and treats it with respect . Even the BJP Prime minister Vajpayee said this in Pak itself. But Pak refuses to believe this ,rather, it does not want to believe this. Recommend

  • vasan

    You have listed the names of the Indian states. You have missed out Telengana, Uttarkhand, Jharkhand etc, Please read moreRecommend

  • Muhammad Khan

    what is happening in Kashmir????Recommend

  • rationalist

    “what about india which is spending billions of dollars on military hardware are they joking around?”

    Fact: India spends only about 2% of its GDP on defense. The true number for Pakistan is over 10% (including nuke and missile program, pensions, debt servicing for past military spending etc.).

    ” we can eat grass but will never give up our freedom.”

    Great but empty hyperbole from someone who will never have to eat grass. Have you asked the 70% of the dirt poor Pakistanis if they want to eat grass?Recommend

  • Gurion

    Yawn. Recommend

  • Queen

    You lost the ground of your argument when you wrote “threatened India’s security because Pak had the record of initiating a
    war/pseudo war in 1948 itself looting and raping Kashmir after Kashmir’s
    accession to India.” I wonder if you have read the history of the Indian subcontinent because if you have then you must be aware of the fact the Indian Government did not give Pakistan its due share of financial and military assets at the time of partition because according to Indians, Pakistan was doomed to be a failed state. If India’s security was threatened by this ‘failed state’ then it says a lot about the capability of its people and its military.

    Pakistan has been purchasing weapons from the United States like India has been doing from Russia ( and nowadays from the US) so the Indian objection to Pakistan’s military spending is irrelevant.

    Pakistan is fully cognizant of India’s military doctrines and has developed an effective counter strategy; the Azm-Nau-III military exercise is one such example of Pakistan’s military preparedness.

    India claims that the nuclear tests of 1974 were aimed toward China but the aggressive posturing done by India against Pakistan after the attacks gave away Indian intentions toward Pakistan. Try as you might but even after dividing Pakistan with covert activities in 1971, you still did not manage to ‘finish off’ Pakistan. Better luck for the future.

    If India does not have hegemonic designs then why raise objections on Pakistan’s relations with other countries? Why has India become ‘concerned’ over the CPEC? Why does India not resolve the Kashmir issue in order to bring peace in the region? On one side you have said that India does not have hegemonic designs while on the other you claim that India seeks to ‘influence’ other countries. India should realize that it cannot ‘influence’ sovereign countries like Pakistan.

    Mr Atal Bihari Vajpayee is one of the few sensible leaders in India and he enjoys respect from Pakistanis as well but what about the rhetoric increased by the current Indian PM Modi? What about the anti-Pakistan statements issued by Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar? Do such statements show respect?Recommend

  • Freeman

    You got more land that belonged to India than you deserved. Yet, the number of Muslims in West Pakistan was the same as Indian Muslims who never left India even though Jinnah’s condition for Partition was a complete transfer of ALL Indian Muslims. Your side never finished the business of Partition; you caused the breakup of India even when your population was a fraction of non-Muslim India. You deserve nothing except a free one-way ticket to the inhospitable backward medieval lands of your ancestors in the Middle East. Muslim population of India through 1,000 years of Muslim invasions, forced conversions, killings, sky-high fertility rates, pillage, and illegal occupation never became a majority, even now. Post Independence, India should have done what the Spanish did to their Moorish (read “Arab”) invaders and occupiers. But then non-Muslim Indians are civilized and tried to play fair and not wipe you out through an Indian Inquisition. Look what India got by playing fair – A terrorist state next door, a menace to the world.Recommend

  • AAMIR

    U get the answer in your dates 1946-2012 hello from 1946-2000 india was not even close to usa for 54 years usa and india were enemies.Still usa gave large sum of money to india while pakistan an ally was treated as mistress.
    As of aid is concerned I have no shame in saying that since independence india was underdeveloped country and india want aid to sustain itself most of this aid money came in that period,even ur most beloved friend china take aid and i completly know that this aid was given to it in that period not like pakistan who jump to conclusion so easily.Recommend

  • AAMIR

    Remember when u start talking internal affairs of india then u have many chinks in ur own armour so be aware of it,and india knows how many human right voilation are taking place in pakistan.Recommend

  • AAMIR

    U got these information which u r bragging from indian media so calm down,even samjhota express incident was investigated by indian agencies that brought into light otherwise pakistan was on back foot one thing is clear the internal machenism of india r so strong like media its structure that it will remain stable and brought good out of it,not like in pakistan were plight of gilgit baltistan and pak is never shown in mainstream media.How many times pakistan media shows agitations in pak for freedom.Does pakistan census shows what is decrease or increase in minority population of pakistan.
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  • AAMIR

    tell us how many hindu minority population had increase in pakistan in 60 years, Go and see what population of muslim increse in india,this is one barometer that shows how the minorities are treated in both countries wwhile minorities are gradually decreasing in pakistan reverse is happening in india.
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  • AAMIR

    pakistan should also accept that india will not come to take its land because that will create instability ,india is growint 7.5% and it have to grow more so please come out of fear india will not do anything to pak.Recommend

  • Hassan Liaquat

    @ tensing Norgay, then Mr. Always Right [America] is more unstable as any one can enter school and kill children despite of 100 time more technological stronger military/Intelligence than Pakistan have, any one can fire at pentagon or hit an aeroplane. anyone can have sniper head shoot of president, we are not dumb enough that we couldn’t understand how great champion of democracy and their sniff dogs like u suppressed occupy wall street movement in USA.
    Atleast Pakistan is under debt of only 80 bn dollar approx. if I am not wrong unlike USA which is under Debt of $18.628 trillion. as far as india in concern Pakistan is way below india in terms of expenditures on defence with development of fighter air craft and better missile technologies [plz dnt mourn that pak took help from china or xyz] and way better than india in terms of poverty and writ of the state. don’t forget kahlistan movement, assam and tamil areas independent movement indian govt has lost its writ even in the areas where they have nuclear facilities. a place where killer of thousand and international criminal can be prime minister hats of to democracy.Recommend

  • Brar

    Had Pakistan not attacked Kashmir in 1947 there would not have been 1965, 1971,1999 , you even denied rights to Bengalis who were part of Pakistan, there is a report called Haamudar Rehman Commission report which is available on net please read that.Recommend

  • Brar

    Nadeem Ahmad the Sikhs were killed by Hindu zionists as per you and I can under stand but I fail to under stand why you killed thousands of your Muslims brothers and sister which were part of you country , you Muslim Army attacked Lal Masjid how will you explain that, we respect our Guru or not it is our problem why are you worried and we require no certificate from you in this regards, we never wanted Sikh state because a religion can not be the basis for as state other wise why Pak, Afganistan and Iran are separate countries all are Muslims, you know how many christian countries are there why there is not only one christian country and the best example why Bengalis divored you they were also Muslims.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    an indian muslim married to pakistani girl says karachi is a city free for all…In broad day light anyone can put gun on your head right in the middle of street and ask you ransom..what is this?Recommend