Once you’re Pakistani, there is no going back to India

Published: April 17, 2015
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The Indian government’s excuse for taking so long for visa processing, although in reality no visas are issued, is to curtail violence in the country

The non-issuance of visas to India continues to irk thousands of Pakistani Americans as the former remains hell bent to grind an axe with Pakistanis, regardless of borders or their new nationalities.

At the moment, there are an estimated 500,000 Pakistani Americans in the US and the rate of their continually burgeoning numbers makes them the second fastest growing group of Asian immigrants in the US. According to the Pew Research Centre, the entire population of Asian Americans, which includes Pakistanis, is among those in the highest income bracket as well as the best educated in the country. However, despite all the good check marks Pakistanis have in front of their names and despite their coveted blue passports, India continues to trivialise their backgrounds, denying them visit visas to its esteemed land only because they are expats born in Pakistan.

It is absurd for India to assume that no Pakistani would ever want to visit India at some point in their lives. Everyone still has relatives, ancestral homes, ties, backgrounds, and memories of childhood visits to the country even though they themselves were born in Pakistan.

The migration that occurred with the division of the country in 1947 was the greatest mass human migration in the history of mankind. Do the Indian authorities seriously assume that simply on account of being born in Karachi or Lahore, a man’s ties to his entire history could be severed and his whole slate of reverence for the land of his forefathers could be wiped clean?

Even if one removes the emotionality from the picture, the whole situation reeks of brazen, glaring discrimination, not only on the part of India, but also the US authorities by reason of being perpetrated against as US citizens.

Why do these people want to go there?

I am pretty sure it is not with the intent to bomb Mysore or raze the Taj Mahal to the ground. The majority only wishes to visit family, gaze at the homes of which they have heard stories of all their lives, visit the monuments built by the Mughal rulers and reflect, sadly, at the preserved relics in the museums which tell the tale of one of the greatest empires in human history. The fact of the matter is that the soil of India has the roots of the millions of Pakistanis who immigrated to the new country in 1947.

As per the rules on the Indian visa website, the visa processing time for US citizens born in the US is one to three days, whereas the time for people of Pakistani origin, it is six weeks. Even this time requirement is just a scam; visas are not issued at all even after the person has waited for six weeks. According to the US Code Title 42, Chapter 21 of civil rights,

“Discrimination against any person ‘based on age, disability, gender, race, national origin and religion (among other things) in a number of settings—including education, employment, access to businesses and buildings, federal services and more’ is prohibited.”

Yet the Indian consulate carries out this blatant discrimination most unabashedly on US soil against US citizens.

The Indian government’s excuse for taking so long for visa processing, although in reality no visas are issued, is to curtail violence in the country. This excuse is, however, most flimsy and unconvincing. 500,000 US citizens of Pakistani origin cannot be held accountable for a handful of miscreants who also happened to be of Pakistani origin.

Prior to the 2008 Mumbai attacks, which were masterminded by the American citizen of Pakistani origin David Headley, all expatriates with foreign passports were exempted from any such visa issuance rules. These rigid rules only came into effect in 2009 and have yet to see any alleviation.

When the officials at the US State Department were questioned about this grey-area-case-of-discrimination, they said they had “raised concerns with the Indian Embassy in Washington” but were unable to do more since visa requirements were engineered by each country in question. Though one could understand that it takes longer for the Indian consulate to do background checks on expats of one country than of another, could it really take six weeks?

Today, it takes minutes to check a person’s background history so why isn’t the Indian embassy able to judge within at least a couple of weeks if a person can or cannot enter the country?

The fact that everyone is denied the visa despite this background check only reflects stark bigotry against Pakistani Americans enabled by US authorities on US soil – an interesting occurrence in this day and age.

Adding further insult to injury, India requires Pakistani Americans to file their visa applications using their Pakistani passports and not their American ones. Whoever chooses to do so, if they even happen to have their Pakistani passport any longer, will not only have to go through the Pakistani consulate to get these passports renewed if required but will also lose all benefits of travelling as US citizens. Of all the bizarre rules that any country could come up with for keeping the people of a certain birth background at bay, trust the Indian consulate to come up with the most outstanding ones.

The sad irony of the entire matter is that despite all these loony-bin tactics India creates to keep Pakistani Americans off their soil, the Pakistanis’ ties to that land keeps them applying for visas repeatedly. Going through similar frustrations and in response to Washington’s ‘non-committal stand’ on the subject, a Pakistani American even filed a petition in court titled ‘Ask India to End Origin-based Discrimination of Visa applicants’. However, so far, all pleas have been falling on completely deaf US and Indian ears, and Pakistani Americans remain barred from the land of their ancestors. It would be interesting to see how this matter is resolved, if ever.

Maybe there will be a day when I too shall be able to visit Delhi, the great seat of Muslim learning, Ghalib’s hometown, and the grand Mughal capital that ruled Hindustan for nearly 350 years.

aalia.suleman

Aalia Suleman

A freelance writer and poet who is keenly interested in the status of women in 21st century Pakistan. Her writing also zones in on Pakistan's new social and political status on a redefined global chessboard. She has a masters degree in English Literature and blogs and invites debates at 'Socio-politically Pakistani'. She tweets @aaliasuleman (twitter.com/aaliasuleman)

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • baccha Khan

    Maybe there will be a day when I too shall be able to visit Dehli, the great seat of Muslim learning, Ghalib’s hometown, and the grand Mughal capital that ruled Hindustan for nearly 350 years.

    Its good that you are proud..but why dont you acknowledge that all were converted on sword and all were hindus….and we dont like ghauris and ghaznavis…and moreover…and please dont include indians in south asians…we are indians..by including us indians in south asians you are equating us with pakistanis who are known all over the world for their hi tech brains..as they here in bradford and afghanistanRecommend

  • Satish, DXB

    Dear Author, it is the duty of Indian Government to protect India and Pakistanis/people of Pakistani descent have time and again proven to be the single biggest external threat .. Start petitioning your government to stop supporting terrorists like Haif Saeed and Lakhvi , show sincerity in stopping cross border terror and then may be these restrictions will be done away withRecommend

  • Nandita.

    I dislike the tone of this article. You dont have the right to whine about not being allowed to enter India. Entering the country is not your right (as you seem to think), if you are allowed in it will be your privilege. Your misplaced indignation makes me glad my country applies these “loony bin tactics”. Once bitten twice shy. India has every right to stop Pakistanis from entering its borders. Given the track record of Pakistanis on Indian soil , Indian authorities are doing the right thing by being cautious. Ensure your fellow countrymen don’t carry out terrorist attacks here- then we’ll consider your Visa applications.
    We understand you want to see the taj mahal etc but we have to be careful lest we unwittingly let in some miscreants.
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  • IAF101

    Shocking and appalling tone deafness on part of this “ranter”.

    David Headley aka Dawood Geelani orchestrated the murder of over 180 people in India through patently Pakistani brand of murder – cowardly terrorism. Yet now, delusional and depraved people on the internet “demand” Indian Visas ??

    Ms Suleman – may I inform you that visiting India is a “PRIVILEGE” that MAY be granted to you based ENTIRELY on the discretion of the Indian Government and what it “alone” deems appropriate. Neither the US government nor God almighty has a right to question to whom India grants a visa to and to who it refuses. That is India’s sole choice and US “laws” do not apply in Indian Consulates or in the Indian embassy or to India’s grant of Visas to US Citizens.

    Your “thousands” of Pakistani who have an ancestral attachment to India is meaningless rhetoric and not recognized by the Republic of India and does not hold any validity to grant you access. The only people who have a “right” to enter India (and even then with caveats) are Indian citizens or those who hold Indian passports.

    The fact that the US government is also reluctant to champion your absurd demands should indicate the ludicrous nature of your demands and the opinion of the US government towards its Pakistani-American citizens.

    If there is any “comfort” to be had for Pakistani-Americans it may come with the knowledge that it is not only Pakistani-Americans who face the extra scrutiny – the same standard is applicable for ALL foreign nationals applying for an Indian visa – be they from Germany, Japan, the UAE or South Africa. All foreign nationals of Pakistani “ancestry” – are subject to additional scrutiny.Recommend

  • aashish

    Those are rules of the Indian government if Pakistani Americans take issue with this then don’t visit India. Also it’s not in the purview of the US government to decide foreign nations visa rules.
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  • ajeet

    Didn’t the Pakistanis demand a separate country because they were Arabs?
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  • Andy T

    I got new for you , Taj Magal hotel, Oberoi hotel , they Bombay attacks were carried out by attackets form Pakistan who were aided and abetted by a Pakistani American David Headley , who was the son of a Pakistani and American woman , Pakista I do want to bomb India and we don’t trust Pakista I no matter what passport you hold , American can give to everything but even to that country you will never be loyal .David Headley came to India , before coming he changed his name to David and took his mothers last name and his real name was Daood Sayed Gilani , are you out of your mind , India should trust you people .Recommend

  • Andy T

    If it was land of your ancestors why did you insist on breaking it up , Hindus are also your ancestors , not just the invaders , your Urdu used all words of Hindi you cannot speak t wig tout using Hindi words , Punjabi Sindhi who are they arabi , you made a bad choice and live with it , we Indians say good riddance Pakistanis live in Your hellhole , my ancestors also came in 1947 from Pakistan , no desire to see the land of the terrorists and the lunatics .Recommend

  • Amit Lunia

    Each person from Pakistan or Pakistani origin are looked from David Coleman Headley perspective, because having European or American passports did not deter man or women from joining IS

    we do not know who has come to visit or who has come for some recce, so better be carefulRecommend

  • Fighter Man

    Who told you that all were hindus ? There were many Muslims who had migrated from Middle East and settled in India a long before Muhammad Bin Qasim and there is no single solid evidence which proves that the Hindus were converted into Muslims by sword.Recommend

  • Sallu

    I dont think most Indian’s what Pakistanis in our soil.Recommend

  • Vips

    First and foremost get over your sense of entitlement that you deserve a visa just because you manipulated and maneuvered to somehow become an American citizen.

    It is the right policy of Government of India to deny Visa to people like you who do not want to visit India for economic or touring raesons but rather want to come to India to to visit some sites in India to feel good and gloat over mughals ruled over india.

    India is right in not taking chance to allow “majority of seemingly bonafide tourists” to risk a “American Citizen” of pakistain origin planning anti-india acts.

    It is interesting that when it suits your purpose you research the american laws to find american rights to claim discrimination. How about preaching your fellow pakistanis that they should be loyal to the country they now live in and not plan to hurt the interests of the western world and India (there are many news reports of Pakistani’s being arrested in America for planning illegal activities).

    Lastly your Blue Passport will not hide the afct that there is a Green color being hide behind it.

    By the way news reports just in that Chinese and Sri Lankans will also now be eligible to get Visa on arrival in India. Rightfully Pakistan should be the only county not eligible for this facility.Recommend

  • Hyderabadi

    Frankly my dear, you answered your own question! Relaxation on visa rules for people of Pakistani origin was your question. And, David Headley was the answer with 164 innocent citizens murdered in cold blood.

    With such a reciprocation of hospitality, it would be astoundingly dumb on part of the Indian Embassy to issue visas without a rigorous scrutiny, post 26/11. Don’t loose your hopes yet, let the bureaucracy do their work.Recommend

  • VA

    The number of holes in this piece are ridiculous.
    First, India is not discriminating against US citizens on US soil. Embassies are foreign soil. Local laws (in this case US laws) do not apply inside embassies. For example, an embassy is legally allowed to enforce a dress code that conflicts with local laws. The alleged discrimination is taking place in the Indian embassy/ foreign office. Also, any country is free to set its own migration/visa rules.
    Second, a change.org petition is meaningless, the story tone suggests it was a petition with actual legal standing. It is also technically illegal for US officials to do this because it would mean interfering with the laws of a foreign state.
    Third, people from Pakistan go to India all the time. Just because one American (of Pakistani origin) wasn’t granted a visa does not mean its a conspiracy. I know an american woman with a Pakistani husband who was denied a visa post Raymond Davis, but she didn’t say Pakistanis are discriminating against Americans.Recommend

  • Brain Think

    There is always a valid reason for denials. They do proper background checks on all applicants.

    Travel from Pakistan rose to a six-year high, touching 1.11 lakh tourists in 2013. This is the highest since 2007 when India received 1.06 lakh tourists from Pakistan.

    Latest data on foreign tourist arrivals from the tourism ministry reveals that arrivals from Pakistan registered a 86.80% growth since 2012, increasing from 59,846 to 1.11 lakh in 2013. This is the highest growth among the top 45 source countries for India. Incidentally, there has been no promotion or liberalization of visa norms with Pakistan.

    Passing the security background checks is important. India needs to make sure a civilian is a civilian, and not a worker of the pakistani intelligence agencies.Recommend

  • Rahul

    Pakistanis are taught to hate India, Indians & Hindus from their infancy as part of their school curriculum. Hatred is spewed everyday on Pakistan TV. See the talk shows of Mubashir Lucman or Ahmed Qureshi or Pakistani TV fixtures like Zaid Hamid or Gen Hamid Gul and the platoon of retired Brigadiers among others and they solely exist to spread hatred against India on the airwaves. Tribune.com.pk, Dawn.com etc. only publish negative news about India. Your Army indoctrinates its soldiers in looking at India as the enemy and Pakistanis as a superior race despite losing 4 wars. Pakistan provides sanctuary for terrorists plotting attacks in India. How can all this be ignored? If India shows any weakness vis-a-vis Pakistan, we know your intelligence services are waiting to exploit them. There is a human cost to being associated with an ideological state and Pakistanis should proudly embrace that.Recommend

  • Aalia Suleman

    @B. Khan

    Most respectively, last time I checked, which was just a day ago, India was
    one of the South Asian countries according to Wikipedia, The Institute of South Asian Studies in Singapore, The Geopolitics of Energy in South Asia by Marie Lall, Accounting Education in South Asia by K. R. Sharma etc. etc. etc.
    The term ‘Indian Subcontinent’ was replaced by ‘South Asia’ over six decades ago and no longer remains in popular usage. And can the entire population of Pakistan be blamed for the ‘hi-tech-wiring’ in the heads of certain members (sigh)?!Recommend

  • Kushal

    Dear Alia, prior to 26/11 there was no such rules. Pakistan Americans were considered as US citizens and not discriminated against, certainly not on the basis of country of origin. But we have been betrayed. People took advantage of this non discrimination to perform recce. So be rest assured, the restrictions are not going to be lifted any time soon, it will only get tighter.Recommend

  • Arijit Sharma

    Pakistanis are interested only in the Muslim aspect of India. They have no interest in, say – visiting glorious temples, etc associated with Hindus. So, until the time they develop a more secular attitude/view point, NO VISA.Recommend

  • Indian

    Very happy to hear people of paki origin are denied visa’s to IndiaRecommend

  • Deepak Bhatti

    how about pakistan first start offering Visas to your bangladeshi muslims brother for change .
    RidiculousRecommend

  • ashok

    Kindly understand that infamous David Headley, the Pakistani American responsible for 166 killings in 26/11 Mumbai Attack was from Chicago’s Pakistani ghetto.Recommend

  • Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale

    “all were converted on sword”

    What was the role of so many saints and preachers like Data Ganj Bakhsh then?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_HujwiriRecommend

  • Gul Zaman Ghorgasht.

    True. An excellent blog. Please keep in mind Hindustan’s inferiority complex.
    It does not acknowledges the Mughal Empire, the great Muslim emperors or
    the monuments they built . It is still suffering from the shame of 1400 years
    of Muslim rule, domination and subjugation. And this is just a puny way of striking
    back. Free ! At Last!…As an aside, when you have a population of 1.7 billion, that
    is a lot of tooth paste, make up, diapers, cheap baubles, medicine, plastic/rubber
    shoes [no leather shoes, as cow is considered sacred ]and lots and lots of toilets
    that can sold there. Plus used, rusting WW 2 military ships, carriers, submarines
    jet fighters that can be sold to Hindustan at asking prices. When it comes to sales
    to 1.7 billion and growing chunk of teeming humanity, laws rules discrimination etc.
    are overlooked.

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  • MSS

    The US code title 42 does not apply inside the Indian consulate because that is sovereign Indian territory. Indian Visas are not subject to US civil rights.Recommend

  • genesys

    David Headley, bitter memories and India cannot afford another Mumbai style attack which now Pakistan claims never happened.Do you blame India for caution.The perpetuators are still free and master mind was released from jail b no less than the High court.Recommend

  • pravin

    Your last paragraph summed it nice. You want to visit New Delhi to see the monuments of Mughals who ruled Hindustan for 350 yrs but not land of Bulleh Shah (Punjab). Our sincere advice is to please spare us and search you ancestral roots in Arabian desert.Recommend

  • Talha Rizvi

    Try using your real name to comment. also if Muslims had really converted by force no Hindu would be left but then again Indians believe in a fake RSS version of history. Every muslim is forcibly converted as if our ancestors were cowards. Tell me people even converted during British rule to Islam who was using the sword then?Recommend

  • INDIAN

    its bcoz of that terriost davidRecommend

  • mimi sur

    Oh…come on..The so-called rulers or Invaders are no more. The countries they came from are not known to world any more .We sent the last mughal invader to present day Myanmar to rot and their family members are begging now. And that so called greatest muslim learning center is a local madrasa now . so Hilarious .

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  • BlackHat

    It is an unfortunate fact that for Pakistanis and people Pakistani origin obtaining an Indian visa quite nearly impossible. But then, the same is true for Indians and people of Indian origin when it comes to visiting Pakistan. Funnily, though, while they hardly agree on anything at all, it looks like they are cooperating splendidly when it comes to visa policies, at least with respect each other. Just as your roots are in India, India’s civilizational roots are in what is Pakistan today. Good luck.Recommend

  • foosh

    As an American Pakistani who has gone through this excercise for work related visa request being approved after 8 months, (I ended up not going anyways because of all the potential hassles involved) I say it is India’s right who they want and not want to enter their country. Lets hope one day Pakistan becomes a bastion of peace and development that Indians have no choice but encourage us to come over and ask to be allowed to come to Pakistan as well. For now, how much I disagree with them, it is their right to govern their country as they see fit. There are other countries we can go to and enjoy and lets not make ourselves so Indian centric.Recommend

  • roughcheck

    Not all were converted ‘on’ sword….You need a bit more study to explore why I am calling you an ‘ignorant’
    There is a mixed history in Pakistan and we have people with Arabic descents and their ancestry happens to be coming from great tribes originally indigenous to Saudi Arabia, Yamama, Makkah etc. for eg. Kutab Shahi Awans..
    The other mixed history leads us to Iranian, Turkish and South West Asian origins.
    and for your information, let me know you the origins of ‘great warriors’ of Indian subcontinent:

    Sultan Salahuddin Ayubi was a KURD
    Tariq Bin Ziyaad was a BARBAR from Morocco
    Mahmood Ghaznavi was a Turkish
    Muhammad Bin Qasim was an ARAB

    Sorry to tell you that there wasnt any Pathan out there………..(in case you were curious right from the start)Recommend

  • Asif

    The last time I checked India was a country in South Asia…. Unless you guys have moved it some where recently.Recommend

  • Asif

    Partition made it clear that it will always be US on this side and THEM on that side. US passport doesn’t change the rules of engagement.Recommend

  • AJ

    What do you expect when you repeatedly send terrorists across LoC to harm Indians. ? Any self respecting nation would stand against that. Be clear what you want with India. Till the time Pakistan is stuck on the Kashmir issue, India will have no option but to refuse co-operation.Recommend

  • Nitin Jadhav

    Hello

    You are most Invited, be our guest, do also see those forts, and monuments built by the Maratha empire, that ended the mughal rule in India.
    Do drop by!!!Recommend

  • Bharatwasi

    What India is saying, is that you are not welcome to visit. Why insist? Go elsewhere. We are not interested in entertaining the Faisal Shehzads and David Headleys anymore.Recommend

  • Zeeshan

    Why are Pakistanis so eager to visit India? To see Taj Mahal? Delhi? Hyderabad? what kind of romanticization is this? Taj Mahal is located in an extremely dirty city of Agra. Today Delhi is a figment of its glorious past – currently the rape capital of the world and Muslims have been sent to live in Old Delhi. If you want to see family members, meet up elsewhere. Is Pakistan putting the same criteria for Indians visiting Pakistan? Should we also spell out clearly that Indian-origin Americans have no place visiting Pakistan? Stop going to India. Even when you know how much Indians hate Pakistanis, you still want to visit India? what is wrong with you?Recommend

  • amartya

    stop whining dear lady ! it seems you have gone through this ordeal. very sad. but let me tell you IndiansLivesMatter , your state sponsored terror on 26/11 in Mumbai. we common Indians (except some Pak-lover pseudo-liberals who love Pak to show off their fake liberalism) can’t forget 26/11 .it is your state which should be blamed here not India. why India should give visa to pak-americans when they have already cheated us and did recce(david headley). please ask your govt why did they sponsor 26/11. i believe only those Pakis who are in need of some serious medical assistance should be granted visa .also for actors ,musicians,writers. visa should NOT be granted to common tourists of Pakistani-origin.Recommend

  • Asok

    Considering that the US singles out Pakistanis for special treatment at entry points, this citing of US law to protest “discrimination” by Indian consulate is somewhat hypocritical.

    Anyways, the author mentioned the reason. After Dawood Gilani’s involvement in 26/11, it would be foolish of India to overlook country of origin while issuing visa to US citizens. Additional security checks are quite justified.Recommend

  • Shelly

    Problem is we dont know how many more David Headleys you have hidden amongst you. After Mumbai and the release of its mastermind from jail, better to be safe than sorry.Recommend

  • jimbocru

    After what Pakistani American David Headley and Pakistani Terrorist “Lakhvi” now free to produce more pakistani terrorists, NO pakistani’s should be given visa’s to India. Please feel free to visit Saudi Barbaria.Recommend

  • Headstrong

    “Yet the Indian consulate carries out this blatant discrimination most unabashedly on US soil against US citizens”

    So, sue us…

    Two words for you – David HeadleyRecommend

  • A reader

    For a person claiming to be highly educated, it amuses me that you don’t realize that each country has the right to decide whom to issue visa or not, and it doesn’t depend on the host governments laws! Pretty stupid to claim that US law states no discrimination, so all embassies in US should also respect the US law in granting visas! Getting a visa is a privilege and not a right. No person has a right to get a visa for any other country. Do you want US to treat Ahamedis differently in their consulate in Pakistan because Pak law says so? perhaps refuse to grant them American visas unless they declare they are not muslims?

    So much for being a “highly educated pakistani-american”.Recommend

  • artem mikoyan

    LoL South Asians are not the highest income bracket Indian Americans are. Pakistanis are in the lowest educated and lowest income bracket. Stop trying to pretend that pakistan has any role to play in US economy. Recommend

  • allaisaxuver

    Ah, sush. You say “I am pretty sure it is not with the intent to bomb Mysore or raze the Taj Mahal to the ground. ” You wrote about David Headly who was instrumental in bombing of the Taj Mahal, the hotel and the carnage in Mumbai. You quote US Law. Why should India care about it? Have you forgotten the USA denied visa without a reason to Mr Modi? BTW my colleague a US citizen of Indian descent was denied a Pakistani visa a few years ago and so I went to Pakistan. It cuts both ways.Recommend

  • Proud Pakistani

    I feel for you sister. These Hindus are too proud, even though we ruled them for 350 years. Thank God we made Pakistan to get away from them.Recommend

  • Ash

    I don’t understand why people would like to go to a place like India at first place! Poverty stricken India has so many problems of its own where its own citizens are lining up infront of US UK embassies to flee out of the hell and become NRI and we want to go for a visit even after all that humiliation. Recommend

  • GPR FIX

    Since Pakistani Americans have dual citizen, they are also citizen of Pakistan too. Why not apply on your Pakistani passport? Pakistanis are routinely granted visa to India including to Jammu and Kashmir and every week thousands of Pakistanis travel to India!

    I can understand the reluctance of Indian govt. in giving visa to Pakistani American as David Hadley ( Dowood Gilani ) was one and giving visa to him did not turn out well of 166 Indians.Recommend

  • JackZFlipper

    Well jeez, why would India, the country that has suffered the LEAST from pakistani terrorism, would deny pakistanis visa.. AT ALL?

    This requires the help of Sherlock Holmes to reveal the truth behind this discrimination.

    After that, Holmes can solve the case of missing pandits from Kashmir, their own home and how pakistani terrorists accidentally end up in India.Recommend

  • someone

    Well Miss, its polite way of India saying, please do not visit. I hope you get the message.Recommend

  • PeterG

    Indians have moved and i have not seen that many who desire to visit pakistan. People involved in surveying, spying for 26-11 Mumbai attack were Pakistan born American and Canadian. Pakistani ancestral fondness should be limited to Arabia. India was only temporary stay of islam’s caravan which got destroyed by Ganges children.Recommend

  • Arun

    Fact is, Pakistani ISI recruited David Headley, a Pakistani-American, and he helped perpetrate the Mumbai massacre of 26/11. Look at this news-item: http://www.colombopage.com/archive_15A/Apr16_1429203074CH.php
    Sri Lankans will have visa-on-arrival in India; but not Sri Lankans of Pakistani origin.

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  • Indian Guest

    My! This is quite a diatribe. The author quotes chapter and verse from the civil rights act. But this is a US code applicable only in the US. What does it have to do with obtaining an Indian visa?

    The author wants to visit “Dehli” (presumably she means Delhi). All that she talks about are muslims, muslim rule, Ghalib’s hometown, etc. Is that all there is to India? If the author considers herself as having a right to return to India, then she should do Indians the courtesy of respecting their heritage in totality and not just their Muslim past (which is not much to boast about given what most Muslims did to India before partition). Finally, the entire tone of the article is peevish, abusive, and sounds downright nasty. Perhaps more respect and more humility may get the author a visa, although I wouldn’t count on it.Recommend

  • Humza

    Everyone who became a Muslim converted at some point from another belief system. I don’t get your point. Even before the Aryans invaded the Indus Region of what is now Pakistan, the natives were following a civilization and gods that predated Hinduism. Ever heard of Harrapa and Mohenjendaro which existed before Hinduism? The religion of the Indus Valley civilization existed centuries before Hinduism. Hindu Rajas ruled Kabul at one time, Bhuddism flourished in Gandhara of Pakistan, all types of faiths, religions and peoples existed in Pakistan. As a native Pakistani I am more interested in this history than going to India. The only people abroad who want to visit India are those Pakistanis with roots in India but I have yet to meet a native Pakistani who is eager to travel there.Recommend

  • Frankly over to you

    Such a crock of lies and nothing else! My brother in law is a Pakistani citizen, born and raised in the Middle East, a Sunni Muslim; my sister and us are Hindus!

    He has never felt any discrimination in obtaining a visa from the Indian Embassy either from the US or the middle eastern country he hails from! He got it after duly filling up all required paperwork and after a minimal verification by the equivalent of the dept., of Homeland Security in India was issued a visit visa not once but six times in a row!!!! He’s never been denied a visa and was recently issued an LTV (long term visa ) 5years multiple!

    If at all you were denied or rejected please note that obtaining a visa is a PRIVILEGE not a right. While we’re at it, ask the Kuwaiti government as to why has there been a ban on issuance of any kind of visas to Pakistanis since 2010!!! Recommend

  • Sven Smalgand

    I’m not sure why this writer is complaining. One only has to read the news-stories repeatedly of Pakistanis who have gotten visas to India, (a) not returning to Pakistan, (b) conducting terror attacks in India, (c) Pakistani Americans doing groundwork for terror attacks in India, (d) not behaving like they are used to life in a multi-cultural, multi-faith, multi-ethnic, multi-cuisine, multi-bias framework. Best for this writer to apply for a Canadian visa. It will be easier to get one. There are many ex-Pakistanis there too.Recommend

  • indian

    Aaliya – there is no more mughal empire there so no need to come here.Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/ ather khan

    use a proper name. a person using the name bacha khan should not condemn ghauris and ghaznavis. you certainly don’t know who bacha khan was and how proud he was being an afghan.Recommend

  • wb

    Ghauris and Ghaznavis were not Afghans, if that’s what you are suggesting. They were Turks who had settled in these region. And they were what is called Ghazi culture. The culture of cannibalistic butchery of humans that you guys so much admire and sing paeans of.

    Bacha Khan was proud of Afghans. Not Turkish invaders who had settled in his area.Recommend

  • wb

    Obviously what he meant was an overwhelming majority of Muslims were converted at sword from Hinduism and Buddhism and Sikkhism.

    And obviously, the writer knows about Mughal empire only through Islamic Studies. Mughal empire was one of the most vicious empires of all time. Except for Akbar.

    In fact, Mughal empire was most vicious to fellow Muslims and especially Shias and sufis.Recommend

  • Jor El

    “This excuse is, however, most flimsy and unconvincing. 500,000 US citizens of Pakistani origin cannot be held accountable for a handful of miscreants who also happened to be of Pakistani origin.”
    U r right when u state that. But even when a fantastic goalkeeper makes 10 breathtaking saves, he is only remembered becoz of the single one he let in that cost his team the game … The Indian embassy does not proclaim that all Pakistanis r terrorists but when empirical evidence indicates that “a handful of miscreants” misuse this facility. Aapka kya hai, at the most, u will not get to see Indian cities live, but the guys at the embassy will be held responsible for issuing visas to people who may want to use it for nefarious acts …Recommend

  • Jor El

    Wow, a “ruler” asked for a country to get away from his “subject” …Recommend

  • Jor El

    dont bother man, its of no use …Recommend

  • Indian

    yes so that you can slowly dwell on yoru past and lie low in your resent without building a future …..

    Typical of conquered nations nad races, we asians – chinese, indians nad pakistanis, yaern for past glory…. But past glory exists for Chinese in their han races and ming and other dynasties and so is that for Indian Kingdoms… of past liek Mauryand Gupta and other kingdoms that controlled Bigger territories than Mughals…. Mughals were invaders but along wiht them came a horde of invaders from PErsiand Afganistan and central Asia who were ruthless…. ITs not because of Islam they were seen ruthless…. but they just USED ISLAM as an EXCUSE for their ruthless savagery….. LOOT, RAPE and destruction…..Theoriginal Islam that came more within 50 years of Its creation in Arabian deserts DOES EXIST in south India….. this is hte only PEACEFUL ISLAMIC conversion….The generations of invading kings converted on sword and used this in the midst of the mullah’s to get a good name…. thats all.. the brought their SAVAGE Culture ( mind your this is not the real islam). unfortunately, India , Islam is associated with these invaders and looters…Recommend

  • Easy Peasy

    yawn ! get on with your life. useless rant ! Recommend

  • Talha Rizvi

    Pakistan should immediately start doing the same to Indians. Tit for tat. Also if you hate us so much then stop visiting our websites.Recommend

  • tejas

    You should have asked David Coleman Headley , US citizen of Pakistan origin , for bringing the shame to the country & your community. And sorry Indian muslims are converts during islamic rule , whether you accept it or deny it that’s your problem. Recommend

  • Talha Rizvi

    wb repeating the same thing ad nauseam doesn’t make it the truth. Please end your obsession with Pakistan and move on. Your hate for Muslims in general and Pakistanis in particular makes me glad I don’t live in India.Recommend

  • vasan

    Then please dont keep asking for Indian visa and complain in the blogsRecommend

  • vasan

    Complain what you may, It is the host who decides whom he wants inside his house and whom he does not. The owner of the house has a latch inside(visa) which he can open or lock as he pleases. After all it is his house.
    Remember, you do not have rights for a visa for any country, It is the host country’s rights.Recommend

  • nishantsirohi123

    “we ruled”
    Who did the rule, whose bloodline you belong to?
    It were just a handful of families who ruled, and got exterminated by their successors.
    Whose family do you belong to?
    Besides India embraces ashoka, akbar & gandhi…. Fans of aurangzeb & abdali left in 1947.Recommend

  • Fawad Ali

    Don’t cry over discrimination, USA violates its own no discrimination rule while VISA issue to Pakistani. Why single out India??? It has to do with Pakistan’s bad image. Will take some time to improve.Recommend

  • Fawad Ali

    well saidRecommend

  • Golnath Agarwal

    Wrong. They were Afghans. One came to hindustan 18 times.
    Use to come and collect his yearly tribute, packed and waiting ready to go. The hindu rajas ran upon hearing his name. No one to oppose him. Putting it mildly hindus do not
    have martial traditions. No great conquerors, just petty little hindu kingdoms fighting each other, and women committing
    sati by the thousands. While female offsprings were killed at childbirth. Until the Muslims put a stop to it.Recommend

  • Golnath’s brother Somnath

    Well, hardly, it was the Mughals who brought civilization to
    hindustan.Recommend

  • Kainat

    No thank you, as an Pakistani I’m least interested in visiting your country infact being an American Pakistani women who received a scholarship to study abroad in Dehli, I myself refused to enter your country which actually fails to protect its own women! I’m sorry but as a Pakistani I would welcome my Indian friends to my homeland Pakistan without any feeling of prejudice but it’s a shame that Indians believe that all Pakistanis should be treated as terrorists! Recommend

  • Somnath and Golnath.

    You must be conjoined. Takes two of you to write a comment.
    Well, with a inferiority complex….Recommend

  • goggi (Lahore)

    The hypernym for the people of our subcontinent is “Slaves!” It is not a war between Pakistanis and
    Indians rather a war between two branded Slave countries, and accordingly they must behave!Recommend

  • Alann

    ““Discrimination against any person ‘based on age, disability, gender, race, national origin and religion (among other things) in a number of settings—including education, employment, access to businesses and buildings, federal services and more’ is prohibited.””

    You quote this and you cry discrimination against US citizens by India? That thing you quoted is part of the US Constitution and applies only to lands where the US has jurisdiction. The Indian Embassy is not US property, it is property of India in US.
    Stop crying why Pakistanis are not allowed to visit India. India is kind enough to allow most Pakistanis in a moment’s notice for medical purposes. India doesn’t want Pakistanis to visit the country for any other reason, so deal with it. There’s already too many Pakistani cricketers/singers/artists who have come to India and now do not want to go back to their beloved Pakistan. We don’t want a mass influx of Pakistani radicalised immigrants into our lands. Even US doesn’t allow every single person to enter its boundaries when you go apply for a US visa from Pakistan. Every country has its reasons.
    P.S.: India is kind enough to allow you to visit its various sites over the internet, for free! Be content with that.Recommend

  • Effendi Pasha

    See, your inferiority complex is showing. Even after 1400 years.
    Must be a traumatic experience to be ruled by foreigners for thousands
    of years. hindus simply are not able to govern….bunyas, all these castes…Recommend

  • Malti Chaturvedi

    oh yeah … wow …great loss … !!! :)Recommend

  • Alann

    Why would you want to go to the poverty-stricken, rape capital of the world, fake democracy, a place with no toilets? You are a citizen of the fortress of Islam, the Medina-e-Sani Pakistan! Why go elsewhere, especially to a filthy country like India?Recommend

  • Malti Chaturvedi

    no visas to them at all …. they are of no good …Recommend

  • Malti Chaturvedi

    miss alia …. u r not welcome …
    thank youRecommend

  • Malti Chaturvedi

    miss alia …. u r not welcome …
    thank youRecommend

  • Malti Chaturvedi

    miss alia …. u r not welcome …
    thank youRecommend

  • Dr v n srivastava

    Did all Muslims came from outside , majority of them are converted Hindus either by force ,or children of invaders who married Hindu women by force,Recommend

  • Dr v n srivastava

    Did all Muslims came from outside , majority of them are converted Hindus either by force ,or children of invaders who married Hindu women by force,Recommend

  • Dr v n srivastava

    Did all Muslims came from outside , majority of them are converted Hindus either by force ,or children of invaders who married Hindu women by force,Recommend

  • Poovhen

    It is the prerogative of the country to give or deny the visa. Not the applicant’s right. It is good that Indian consulate denies visit to people of Pakistani ancestry. David Headley’s episode has given a good lesson to Indians. As a tit for tat, Pakistani embassy can deny visa to Indian Americans. Problem solved.Recommend

  • Poovhen

    It is the prerogative of the country to give or deny the visa. Not the applicant’s right. It is good that Indian consulate denies visit to people of Pakistani ancestry. David Headley’s episode has given a good lesson to Indians. As a tit for tat, Pakistani embassy can deny visa to Indian Americans. Problem solved.Recommend

  • Poovhen

    It is the prerogative of the country to give or deny the visa. Not the applicant’s right. It is good that Indian consulate denies visit to people of Pakistani ancestry. David Headley’s episode has given a good lesson to Indians. As a tit for tat, Pakistani embassy can deny visa to Indian Americans. Problem solved.Recommend

  • Minerva

    Oh,please! Cry me a river! It’s India’s right to deny entry to any one.

    To those Pakistanis who has the romantic notion of visiting India to see their ancestral homes:

    India has developed in the last 67 years. You wont find your ancestral home and locality just the way you left when you ran away.

    To Ms.Suleman:

    You seems to think that you are denied your rightful entry into your kingdom. if you ever get a visa to India, pls dont expect to find Akbar and Jodha walking on the streets or Aurangazeb killing his brothers or your ancestors being forcefully converted to Islam. You will be disappointed.
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  • Minerva

    Oh,please! Cry me a river! It’s India’s right to deny entry to any one.

    To those Pakistanis who has the romantic notion of visiting India to see their ancestral homes:

    India has developed in the last 67 years. You wont find your ancestral home and locality just the way you left when you ran away.

    To Ms.Suleman:

    You seems to think that you are denied your rightful entry into your kingdom. if you ever get a visa to India, pls dont expect to find Akbar and Jodha walking on the streets or Aurangazeb killing his brothers or your ancestors being forcefully converted to Islam. You will be disappointed.
    Recommend

  • Rhea

    It is really churlish of Indian government to deny VISA when there is so much ignorance about our roots, and that is matched by so much interest. Who knows? Though the author limits her heritage to the “glorious” Mughal empire, may be her interest in the unparalleled Iron pillar — which is her heritage took — of the Gupta period will be kindled. Or may be she will be exposed to the wonder of exquisite — pre Mughal sculpture and architecture — in the famous Jain and Hindu temples all over India. That is her heritage too. May be she will visit the Benaras the great centre of learning and Saranath where Lord Buddha preached Ahimsa — meaning nonviolence. May be she will be exposed to the wonderful astronomical and mathematical works of Bhaskara and Aryabhatta and others which are heritage too. By the away, the devout enlightened Arabs of the medieval ages translated them to Arabic. They are her heritages too. I could go on and on, but it is better that the stupid official machinery giver her VISA so that she can discover all these and more for herself.Recommend

  • Pravin

    Listen to Tarek Fatah, all your notions about yourself and India will get clear.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    You want to visit India to see??”the great seat of Muslim learning, Ghalib’s hometown, and the grand Mughal capital that ruled Hindustan for nearly 350 years.”I m glad GOI read your mind before we reach to some conclusion..Delhi is no more a place for Invasion fyi…We will protect it at any cost from the glares of pakistanisRecommend

  • M. Ali Sabir

    Indians are never a good cheater….even a fool can easily say that you are an indian…wearing Pakistani disguiseRecommend