Relax Pakistan! Obama’s trip to India will not jeopardise Pak-US relations

Published: January 26, 2015
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What impact will the on-going Indo-US cooperation have on the Pak-US relations? PHOTO: AFP

Obama is finally in India for his second official visit since he commenced his second term in the office. The visit is important for various reasons.

First and foremost, due to its powerful symbolism: Obama is the first US president visiting India, twice.

Secondly, an American president’s presence at the Republic Day of the world’s largest democracy also sends a very powerful message.

But there are some serious questions occupying the minds of those in India and Pakistan. Will the visit prove to be just a theatrical trip of smiles and handshakes or can India really get something out of the guest who is left with just two years in a White House fraught with domestic economic crisis and, above all, a hostile Republican majority in the Congress? Of course, it is yet to be seen whether these energetic photo-ops are just ‘love-making elephants’, more sound but no certainty for substance or consequences.

However, with the dawn of Modi’s ascendancy to power, India’s relationship with the United States appear to be undergoing a dramatic shift with indications of American willingness to deliver on the Indo-US nuclear deal and the Modi government pushing for FDI in defence.

Given that the uncertain triangle of Pakistan-US-India to some extent has historically been constructed around the lines that the dilution of US relations with one country provides an impetus to the US improving relations with the other country. After all, it is not just coincidental that General Raheel Sharif tends to be in China at the same time Obama is in India. This current paradigm shift therefore gives rise to an important question:

What impact will the on-going Indo-US cooperation have on the Pak-US relations?

The answer, I believe, is none.

For the reason, that the modalities of Pakistan’s relationship with India are completely different than that of our relations with US. After all, we don’t have any border dispute with the United States and our soldiers don’t get killed by US troops at the Line of Control (LoC).

Though India has been instrumental in determining the dynamics of Pak-US relations, the rationale for US relations with Pakistan and India, one a long-time strategic partner and the other a booming economic powerhouse, are extremely different. Today, the US looks at India through the prism of its ‘pivot to Asia’s policy, to counter the Chinese hegemony in the region. While Pakistan and the United States, for the last three decades, continue to stick together through a single imperative – Afghanistan.

Secondly, India’s expectations from the US are also different. India today has a global agenda; all the expected talks between Modi and Obama are on economy, technology, environment and seeking support for India’s entry into global powers with a permanent seat in the United Nations. While the Pak-US bilateral relationship is confronted with questions regarding drone strikesterrorist safe havens in the tribal areas of Pakistan, Pakistan’s support to the Afghan Taliban and its lack of will to contend Pakistani Taliban and organisations such as Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), Pakistan’s links with the Haqqani network, anti-India militant outfits in Pakistan, Pakistan’s relations with Iran, nuclear weapons etcetera.

In fact, the shared view of India and the US towards Pakistan is that both consider Pakistan a source of terrorism. Obama, knowing the importance of cooperation with Pakistan for stability in Afghanistan, may not come as strident on Pakistan as the Modi government aspires but, unlike his predecessor President Bush, Obama may not conveniently ignore it either.

Similarly, on India’s membership in the Security Council, neither will the United States concede it so easily nor does Pakistan appear to be perturbed by it. Because Pakistan perceives China as its best, if not its last, bet in terms of diplomatic support in favour of Pakistan’s interests. This expectation has its roots in history. Whether it be the facilitation of the United States Secretary of State Henry Kissinger’s visit to China through diplomatic support from Pakistan in 1971, or the question of China’s right over Tibet and Taiwan, Pakistan has always advocated full diplomatic support in favour of China.

The US foreign policy is shaped by its global perspectives. In case of India and Pakistan, both the countries have criticised the US when one feels the United States is tilting towards the other. But generally, cordiality marks the United States’ approach towards both, India and Pakistan, because of the differing interests the US has in both cases.

Pakistan, however, still needs to realise that its narrowed geographical focus on containing India has affected its image on the global stage. The fact that Obama is in India for the second time, each time flying over Pakistan without a stop, reflects the utter failure of our diplomacy.

Kashif Ali

Kashif Ali

The writer holds Masters in governance and public policy from Germany and works in the development sector. He tweets as @s_kashif8 (twitter.com/s_kashif8)

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Rahul

    US already knows Pakistan’s importance and Russia got a taste it will never forget. China is soon going to find out Pakistans importance in its Muslim majority Xinjiang province. Uighur Muslims are already recieving training in Pakistani camps.Recommend

  • Gopeet

    Here they come, all of them. Prashant, Anoop, wb, Nandita, Blackjack?
    Blackhat? Milind, Vinsin, Vinshan? ab1990,, Gullu Nath, Critical, Gullu Singh,
    and 2000 more. The hindutva platoon from the call centers of Poona.
    After all, this is the hindu section of ET.Recommend

  • Farrukh

    Hehehe Kashif Ali thinks, Pakistan is not relax? lols whether he woke up after a long sleep or do not know a single word about international politics!Recommend

  • hp kumar

    Global superpower US is visiting regional player India,likewise Global superpower Pakistan is visiting regional player China ???Recommend

  • Rajan

    The author cannot be serious. There is no “Pak-US relations” to start with. The flag burners took care of it long back.Recommend

  • Hoshang Ansari

    The professional hindu trolls will be descending on this blog like locusts.Recommend

  • Limpkisar

    we are not obsessed with India rather Indian media is quite eager to show Pakistan in bad lights. Besides that Indian officials also portrays Pakistan as a hostile state but reality is something different. We want peace in the region but we should not accept any dictation from any country.Recommend

  • Rahul

    Glad to oblige! Good to see you can access internet by candlelight.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    India, America, Ghana….why care for them when you haven’t got peace at home?!

    Here is a tip: how about we try fixing relations between the people of Pakistan- who’s minds have been high jacked by political parties in an effort to only further divide the people. Then probably work on bandaging relations between the states of the country….and so on. We have too many hurdles to cross before we even get to the front door to allow Obama in!

    And for those who dont agree with me being against their parties, think of this: If you love Pakistan, then love it’s people too. If you support PMLN, you believe that Nawaz can get the country back on track. If you support PTI then you think the same for Imran. But eventually, you want what is best for the country, am I correct? Then why is it such a big of a PAIN to work TOGETHER?!! Deadset, the most abundant mineral in Pakistan is EGO -.-Recommend

  • Rahul

    Without electric and petrol, you have your ESP to fall back on!Recommend

  • Rahul

    Pakistan needs no help from us. Pakistanis working 24/7 in this regard.Recommend

  • Critical

    Here I’m….First of all I’m a South Indian currently in USA so my responses will be a bit late and secondly,I dont work in a call center…Thirdly,I’m an atheist who happened to be Hindu at birth……

    First of all,USA relationship with Pakistan started because India sided with USSR during Cold war…..USA wanted to rub in our face that we made a mistake in choosing the wrong side and Pakistan too grew while India was suffering….
    But your leaders decided to use religion in politics and thereby you regressed back to 7th century and our leaders left socialism and marched front…..

    Now USA needs Pakistan till they pull back the troops from Afghanistan and after that its anybody’s guess….

    Pakistan was a pawn in this struggle and the worst thing about a pawn is that they are always expendable..Recommend

  • نائلہ

    Be nice, they are our friends. Yes, they are obsessive and all, but still, our friends :)

    Also, why is Nandita even mentioned? I havent read any hate from her (yet).Recommend

  • نائلہ

    You got the hold of someone’s diary didnt you! ;DRecommend

  • نائلہ

    We should be focused on Pakistan, and not what India or any other country comes up with in their free time.Recommend

  • L.

    I agree. Unfortunately.Recommend

  • L.

    Rahul, your name wasnt mentioned man, gotta try harder! I know you have the potential!Recommend

  • Hunza wala

    What free time? The professional trolls hired by proxies
    of BJP, RSS, Shiv Sena, The Maharashtra Brigade of Hindutva
    Hindu Devotees. are devoting full time to hate mongering on ET.
    These are professional grade hate dispensers. Not common hindus..
    Free time if any, is spent on searching for a toilet. All over India.
    Only 53 % of hindus homes have a toilet.Recommend

  • Hoshang Ansari

    You are right. In US most hindus work in the convenience
    stores, known as 7-11. they are all over US,.. run by hindus.
    Or maybe you work in a Patel Motel. Run by southern hindus.
    everywhere in the US.Recommend

  • Guest

    I have seen very few Pakistanis to argue on point by point basis. Is it because of the psyche or education, I wonder. All they indulge in is obfuscation, trolling and insults.Recommend

  • Salma

    The title belies what Mr Ali writes in detail. Very sharp. And a serious warning to all those who are worried about Pakistan and its future.Recommend

  • Prashant

    India is not going to be a permanent member of UN in the foreseeable future despite the US approval as the Chinese would not vote for India.

    India’s relationship with US as of now is purely economical, India wants to grow and grow fast but it is not foolish enough to mess with a much more powerful China.

    “The fact that Obama is in India for the second time, each time flying over Pakistan without a stop, reflects the utter failure of our diplomacy.”

    I see many Pakistani experts blaming US for Obama not visiting Pakistan, does it matter if Obama visits Pakistan, you need to be in a position to grab an opportunity when presented with one.

    If Pakistan can revive its economy, you do not need to invite people rather they will come themselves, I see a lot of Pakistanis emphasising on this point but at the same time they also talk about how to get Kashmir and how LeT and Afghan Taliban are not their enemies failing to understand these things have a direct link with Pakistan’s economy and its image in the world.Recommend

  • Rahul

    It is just logic. Pakistan made all the other superpowers bite the dust, China’s delusions will be cleared soon.Recommend

  • Prashant

    India was economically a basket case a few decades back and Pakistan was a booming economy, what has changed in these years? I do not think it is the politics, the politicians are the same on both sides, sometimes equally good and sometimes equally pathetic, those were days when Pakistan had a good image all over the world except in India.Recommend

  • Prashant

    Mate, it is not Poona, it is Pune. Cheers.Recommend

  • DK

    US-Pak relationship can be summarized as “paisa pheko, tamasha dekho”. Pakistan has made itself into a vending machine of sorts. Due to fiscal mismanagement, it constantly needs US as a benefactor whereas US needs it to do its bidding. There isn’t much more than that give the insignificance of its economy.

    One may pretend that China can replace the US as the benefactor in chief except that the Chinese are hard nosed when it comes to doling out the dough. They will get their pound of flesh plus some. You will be carving out some of your best slices of your country for them just like you do for the Arabs.Recommend

  • Kashif Ali

    We can disagree in a more civilized way!Recommend

  • Vish

    So are you returning to Pakistan? Long distance advice is pretty easy.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    Wonderfully simplistic attitude. So naive.
    Nations need ideology and organization to work . Any organization of individuals need it.
    But, Pakistani ideology, the idea of Pakistan, is regressive and communal. Military will not allow any institution powerful than itself to come up. No secular political party can survive without pandering to Islamists. The nature of Islam too contributes greatly to this as we have clearly seen all over the world – the same trend manifests itself in various degrees.
    In just one fell swoop, your military basically shattered the supremacy of judiciary. WIthout ideology to guide them, Pakistanis haven’t even bothered to protest. Had this happened in India(which is near impossible), there would be chaos.
    2 countries, with Pakistan having a day head start, go on different trajectories. Ruled by 2 great men, one secular, the other not so much. One pro-Land Reform, the other who had Feudal allies. One with vision, the other whose only vision was division.
    History, Ideology(Islam) and Military. 3 things stopping Pakistan from being a normal country.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    Only Pakistanis think working in a call center job, earning honest money is somehow demeaning and actually use it as an abuse!
    Tell me, whats wrong in working in a call enter in Poona? I thought Pakistan wanted outsourcing Industry to invest in Pakistan, wouldn’t you want that? If yes, isn’t that hypocrisy? If No, write to your Economic advisors to not allow the evil Call Center companies to set up shop.Recommend

  • Nadeem

    Heh, mind if I save your comment? It will be useful later on.Recommend

  • Yo2Da2

    First of all, US has diplomatic relationships with almost all countries except such overtly hostile ones as Iran and North Korea. Even the Cuba-US relationship is in transition. Are all relationships that US has are of equal importance? No. Likewise those with India and Pakistan. It was merely self-delusion, rather than objective reality, that Americans were tilting towards Pakistan even at the height of the Cold War and the flourishing of all those empty alliances such as CENTO and SEATO. There is a difference between rhetoric and actions. For example, the groundwork for India’s IT revolution was being quietly laid by Indian Institutes’ collaboration with American and other Western Universities.(as well Russian ones) several decades before the well-received state visit to the US by Rajiv Gandhi and his Italian-born wife Sonia during Ronald Reagan’s second term. (By the way, Sonia’s Italian heritage was a great asset on the diplomatic front with the West – contrary to what you hear from the Hindutva crowd today.) While the anti-Indian rhetoric from sundry US Congressmen would be bouncing off airwaves, the Democrats and all the Presidents (except perhaps Nixon) were solidly in India’s camp. Gandhi had inspired America’s Civil Rights movement. The Beatles and other Rock-n-Rollers went to India to see the Maharishi and Ravi Shankar. Yoga and ancient Hindu and Buddhist philosophies had been influencing American thinkers since Emerson and Thoreau. (Jack Kerouac’s The Dharma Bums was very influential in the counter-cultural movement.) Nehru, along with Tito, Nasser and Sukorno founded the non-alignment movement which Pakistan itself joined. My point is, beyond politics, India was working itself in American cultural circles and consciousness for a very long time.Recommend

  • Gulzar Ali

    hp Kumar g sarcastically used the term Global superpower for Pakistan which is visiting to the regional Player China. Let me correct you if Pakistan is ironically a Global superpower right now, but keep this thing in your mind that Pakistan is a nuclear power.Read your history of 1948, 1965 and 1999 wars in which Pakistan retaliated the bigger Indian army without enough weaponry, and thwarted the evil designs who wanted to grab the land of Pakistan.We were defeated in 1971 owing to the dictatorial attitude of our civilian government towards the Eastern wing, but the major player was India which split Pakistan into two pieces.
    As far as the meeting of Obama and Modi is concerned, it should be clear to you that the US defeated communist regime of Soviet with the help of Pakistan. The US is like a snake charmer who spells the magic of dollars to entice, but in return they used to leave the same country’s people collapsed. This nuclear deal is only for selling you the weapons to kill humanity regardless of religion but particularly Pakistanis and Chinese in the near future. They are using you as pawns and when the US will fulfill their vested interests from India, then they will desert you like Afghans and Pakistanis. Instead of militarizing the region with bombs, missiles and nukes let us make it a better place to live in. Pakistan is fighting against terrorism not for its own survival but for the whole region. It is no time to drag one another legs but it is time to become united and resolve all our issues peacefully to make South Asia a better for our next generations. Both India and Pakistan have to cede some ground for one another for the bright future of this region, otherwise this poison of hatred, prejudice and blame game will swallow both of us like the extinct dinosaurs.Recommend

  • Parvez

    I think you’re very right in saying what you’ve said. The visit had strong economic undertones as far as India is concerned…..but on a global level this was America talking to China……..and I think all parties are aware of that.Recommend

  • Abdul Malik

    LOL Thanks for Inviting us. No I’m not from pune call center. I am an apostate Muslim from Delhi married to a practicing Hindu lawyer. Americans knew of Pakistani perfidy long back but could not do anything about it. Now they can and they will. As for India, Pakistan is no more than a fly on the windscreen. You have not been able to impede our growth in the past nor will you be able to do it in future. The gap will increase much more by 2016-17. By then Pakistan would just be a bad incident in the collective memory of the world.Recommend

  • Rocky F.

    Well you are right till here… But now the so-called Hindutva/VHP/RSS bigots and leaders are determined to take India back to 10th century AD. Perhaps making people drink cow urine, forcibly changing their religion (in the name of ghar wapasi and all that crap) and you can already see the signs of Islamic style fascism in states like Gujarat where they are forcing people to sing ‘Saraswati vandana’ in schools.Recommend

  • Gopeet

    Hope you meant it cheek in tongue. Nobody can tell.
    They maybe YOUR friends. With friends like these, who
    needs enemies.Recommend

  • Hoshang Ansari

    How many hindus does it take to understand global politics?
    Answer:- Unknown, because they are still busy with the Ghar Wapsi,
    campaign, Babri Mosque, Samjhota Express, Gujrat massacre, and
    electing a known terrorist as their PM. Once they settle down, then
    they will try to grasp these complex thought processes. Prognosis is
    poor. Because of this inability to wrap their minds around complex
    issues. In the past, somebody else did their thinking for them…always.
    The Lodhis, the Ghaznavis, the Baburs, the Akbars, the British,..

    ET moderators, this is the hindu section, but see if you can print this.Recommend

  • Hoshang Ansari

    It seems after living under the yoke of foreign invaders for 1400 years,
    the hindus have lost the ability to reason. To think, to be constructive.
    Then there is the Caste System. Which limits everything. So they will
    be inside their box,…er…boxes, until the cows come home.Recommend

  • LS
  • anand singh

    I agree with the title of this blog. Having seen thru Pak post Abbotabad how much worse can things get between US & Pak ?

    The fact is that while Pak is still stuck in a time warp, the rest of the world is moving on. It did wait patiently for Pak to step out but evidently Pak leaders want to drive their ‘ car’ looking thru the rear view mirror, and when you do the only gear you can engage is the reverse gear.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    Well then there is no point giving “enemies” so much attention. That’s what they want! So treat them like friends in order to fix their desperately clouded view point, but if they continue hating, despite your efforts then: at least you tried! Recommend

  • نائلہ

    I do strongly support this hypothesis of yours. I know Hindus and I also know atheists; they are surely not like the ones on ET.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    It’s not about the image, it’s about what the people face. And the divide which political parties have brought to this country is pretty visible. Recommend

  • Gopeet

    The Indian Embassy will give you an honorary citizenship.
    Just go to your local 7-11, convenience store to pick it up. [wherever your tent is pitched.]Recommend

  • نائلہ

    I just so happen to belong to 2 of the best countries in the world. But when my education is finished, why not? I do owe a lot to both. One can only hope to live long enough to pay both their provisions off.

    Also, the advice was for Pakistanis, you weren’t asked to take it.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2eraa1_national-anthem-of-straya-to-the-tune-of-hey-ya_music Recommend

  • Gopeet

    Sure, Pune, Pawna,..whatever, just as Bombay is now known as
    Bumbai,..? Nehruabad?…Bal Thackeray Junction ? Indira City?Recommend

  • نائلہ

    Nah man, they already rejected my visa back in 2008 :(
    I was so devo! Recommend

  • Sid

    This comes from a guy who probably still believe world is flat and to think sun is center of our solar system is blasphemous. And you sir have audicity to preach others on politics, let alone global.
    By the way the last few characters you named minus british are the reason that your family somehow converted to Islam.
    @ET : This is appropriate rebuttal to distasteful remark by Ansari.Recommend

  • Sid

    Are you sweating already ?Recommend

  • نائلہ

    I want to read your comment, but it’s SOO LONG! :( Recommend

  • Sid

    Smartness of Hindus makes them highest income earner in USA even when they work in 7-11. Want to know whats t he average income of Pakistani ?Recommend

  • Sid

    Smartness of Hindus makes them highest income earner in USA even when they work in 7-11. Want to know whats t he average income of Pakistani ?Recommend

  • Gopeet

    Sir, I am shaking in my boots.!! Plus it’s not good form for a hindu to write under a Muslim name. Recommend

  • hp kumar

    Ghar Wapsi campaign could never garner global media attention (except perhaps pakistani media)neither Indian muslims protested against it…do you know why??The whole motive is to create enough furor so that anti-conversion law can be passed…No Hindu would allow converts to assimilate among them..Aur miyan,where do you live in past…I was not even born at the time of babri mosque,gauri,ghaznavi,lodhis etc…lol..Recommend

  • Milind A

    Still better than being a parasite, sneaking in through forged passports and living of the state’s social welfare benefits, trying to plot the next act of terror as your countrymen do. Or smuggling cocaine and getting beheaded in the gulf states.Recommend

  • J.K.Sharma

    Dear brother,
    Muslims are also divided like Hindus. They are divided as Sunnis.shias ,ahmedis etc. They are killing each other on a large scale,whether it is Pakistan ,it is in Syria ,Iraq ,Nigeria or in any part of the world. No other community in any part of the world is facing such a turmoil .Violence is bad for every community. We are all human being and are sons of almighty whether call it Allah,Christ ,Bhagwan or by any name.He is one . Please do not spread hatred in this lovely world .Recommend

  • deep

    Hoshang – that is why we have the caste system – a division of labour that allows for global politics and ghar wapsi :)Recommend

  • Gopeet.

    Wish you the best of luck in your Mother Theresa reincarnation.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    I agree ,Communist china can be your friend only on paper at the same time they will keep banning long beard,burqua etc,its just a matter of time ,India-Pakistan friendship is eminent ….How it will be done,India will tell you…Pakistan is in no position to decide future course of action vis-a-vis India…we Indians have special place for you pakistanis,dont you know :-)Recommend

  • L.

    For once, try being nice? Or is it too much to expect from someone who’s apparently tired of these Indians hating. Guess what: you aren’t any different from them. Recommend

  • Hoshang Ansari

    As they say “Heal Thyself Physician”
    See if you can preach this sermon to your hindu brothers.
    Your sanctimonious advice should be given in full Dolby
    Stereo to your countrymen…er…trolls who infest this site. You cannot read an article in this paper without coming across a venomous comment from a hindu. Now, then, you are free to spread
    your advice,..to hindus, first.Recommend

  • Kashif Ali

    Thank You for this metaphor.Recommend

  • Kashif Ali

    AgreedRecommend

  • Kashif Ali

    very logical, agreedRecommend

  • Kashif Ali

    Agreed that title doesn’t properly reflect the content. I will take it to publicly complain that ET often changes titles without authors consent. No worries, because this title is not that bad either.Recommend

  • Gopeet

    Never did use any foul language, was civil, unlike hindus.
    Excuse, ah done gone be in a corner crying mah eyes out.Recommend

  • Kushal

    Look at the condition of your own country to understand who has lost the power of reasoning.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    That’s if you can find someone who will offer you a corner.

    “Civil “? More like abrupt. Recommend

  • Kushal

    Yes I knew that. You will never acknowledge an Indian Muslim pointing out your limitation. If you do, your entire “Ideology of Pakistan” will come crashing down.Recommend

  • Kushal

    Yes I knew that. You will never acknowledge an Indian Muslim pointing out your limitation. If you do, your entire “Ideology of Pakistan” will come crashing down.Recommend

  • Vish

    Sorry that hurt. Where did I say I am interested in taking any kind of advice?Just wondering if all the advisers here are ready to put their money where their mouth is, unless all this “We should be focused on Pakistan” is restricted to writing inane comments (from the comfort of far abroad) and fending of Indian trolls.Recommend

  • Reddy

    first it’s absurd and flattering to know that pakistanis worried about minority rights for that matter any rights to begin with,a country whose name starts with islamic republic, given it’s track record on any rights shows one thing and that is pakistan is the last destination on this planet, we(indians) or for that matter anybody expect a preaching on anything associated with the word “rights”. i wanna say much more, but i can’t cuz i don’t how to stop laughing at your amusing commentRecommend

  • نائلہ

    Hmm hurt who?

    Well I find it hard to imagine myself focusing on any other countries than my own. Why? Because there are clearly enough problems for me to think about without even considering the part of a whole another country in this.

    And my opinions shall not change without concrete reasons, whether I live in Pakistan or out of it. Recommend

  • I

    HahahaRecommend

  • Prashant

    The caste system is regressive, must not be condoned or justified.Recommend

  • Prashant

    A Manmohan Singh kind of a PM will never take on the Chinese, A Modi kind of a PM would take on the Chinese may be 20 years down the lane if Indian interests are seriously challenged.

    As of now, irrespective of who the leader is in India, I do not see India challenging China, it is suicidal to mess with a country which is clearly much more powerful economically.

    India for sure is not going to put its independent foreign policy at stake and become an American satellite country in Asia.Recommend

  • Critical

    Is that the best you can come up???
    Taunting the professions of Indians???
    One thing I learnt being in USA is that no job is below if its both legal and moral to do it…
    Even kids of rich families serve coffee in Starbucks just to understand the value of money

    By launching personal attacks,looks like you are not interested in debates but only want to throw mud at others….

    No use discussing with you….Recommend

  • anand singh

    USA can talk to Burkina Faso for all the difference it makes so long as Indian interests are met.

    Far too long has India waited, it has to move on & forwards.Recommend

  • Kashif Ali

    I do agree as most people have argued as well that the reference for this trip was China. After all, India has huge problems to overcome before it starts conceiving itself as a global player; it can’t be super power while it’s still super poor.Recommend

  • Gulzar Ali

    In response to an Indian hp Kumar in Express Tribune Newspaper’s Blogs who ironically called Pakistan regional Superpower in the context of Obama visit to India.

    hp Kumar g sarcastically used the term Global superpower for Pakistan which is visiting to the regional Player China. Let me correct you if Pakistan is ironically a Global superpower right now, but keep this thing in your mind that Pakistan is a nuclear power.Read your history of 1948, 1965 and 1999 wars in which Pakistan retaliated the bigger Indian army without enough weaponry, and thwarted the evil designs who wanted to grab the land of Pakistan.We were defeated in 1971 owing to the dictatorial attitude of our civilian government towards the Eastern wing, but the major player was India which split Pakistan into two pieces.
    As far as the meeting of Obama and Modi is concerned, it should be clear to you that the US defeated communist regime of Soviet with the help of Pakistan. The US is like a snake charmer who spells the magic of dollars to entice, but in return they used to leave the same country’s people collapsed. This nuclear deal is only for selling you the weapons to kill humanity regardless of religion but particularly Pakistanis and Chinese in the near future. They are using you as pawns and when the US will fulfill their vested interests from India, then they will desert you like Afghans and Pakistanis. Instead of militarizing the region with bombs, missiles and nukes let us make it a better place to live in. Pakistan is fighting against terrorism not for its own survival but for the whole region. It is no time to drag one another legs but it is time to become united and resolve all our issues peacefully to make South Asia a better for our next generations. Both India and Pakistan have to cede some ground for one another for the bright future of this region, otherwise this poison of hatred, prejudice and blame game will swallow both of us like the extinct dinosaurs.Recommend

  • Gulzar Ali

    What about your superpower– US ,which attributed you the title of the biggest democracy in the world and is going to supply bombs in the garb of civil nuclear deal instead of providing food to your poor denizens?Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    I’ll condense it – Pakistan has no hope. Its history, its ideology and military will ensure it hops from one catastrophy to another.
    Had such drastic events occurred anywhere in the world, there would be tremendous introspection, but not in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Yo2Da2

    Shall we then assume that you think you are a descendant of those foreign invaders, “Hindus”, to indulge in such unenlightened gloating? You know the last foreign invaders, unlike the previous ones (your ancestors I presume), gave “Hindus” their independence and then left. The ability to reason, to think, to be constructive is in full display for the world to see, dear friend.Recommend

  • Meshuga

    But of course. (wink, wink)Recommend

  • observer

    “What impact will the on-going Indo-US cooperation have on the Pak-US relations?
    The answer, I believe, is none.”

    The author is correct. Pak-US relations were already badly impacted by Pakistan’s policy of playing double-games with terrorists culminating in the killing of Osama being hidden by the Pak army.Recommend

  • Hoshang Ansari

    Perhaps you should consider improving your syntax. Composition and writing.
    “…i wanna say much more..” Are you aping American slang?
    Would not be surprised, Since the hindus are very good at
    aping. Just see a nauseous Bollywood movie. After all hindu
    culture is just an amalgamation of what various conquerors
    brought. A little bit of Ghaznavi/Gauri, some Lodhi add some
    Qutubuddin, a dash of Babar, healthy dose of Akbar, Top
    it all off with a pinch of British…There you have it,… hindu culture.

    ET moderators do not censure any portion. If you do, don’t
    print at all. Nothing indecent or foul written, here.Recommend

  • Gp65

    ET mods – pleasse allow a rebuttal to unsubstantiated dissing of Indians by Hoshang Ansari.

    Well the Patels do OWN 70% of the motels in US which speaks to the entrepreunerial nature of Indians. On the other hand two governors are of Indian origin, the surgeon general of US is of Indian origin and deans of several highly reputed universities including Harvard Business School have been of Indian origin, currently the CEO of Pepsi, Mastercard and Microsoft are also were born and raised in India.

    In fact leaving aside indiidual success stories, Indian diaspora is the most succesful diaspora in US. http://www.dawn.com/news/720712/dollars-and-sense-of-american-desis

    Finally last but not least, if some Indians work in call centers or 7-11s , where is the shame in that? There is dignity in earning an honest living. Better that then act like Faisal Shehzad or Aafia Siddiqui or Daood Gilanai aka David Headley.Recommend

  • Robi Chakraborty

    Stupid Indians and Pakistanis arguing and hurling insults at each other.The British divided us and we still remain divided. We are brothers and share a common heritage culture language. We will be better off coming together and working towards the betterment of our people. Set aside religion and set aside our past differences. Our musicians do it the best they are loved in both countries, from Noor Jahan to Nusret Fathe Ali Khan to Jagjit Singh, Hans Raj Hans and they try to bridge the divide by singing to each others community. As Bade Gulam Ali Khan quoted on this subject “When your heart is full of music and love there is no room for hate”. Just imagine if we have peace between the two countries we can visit the homes of our forefathers.Recommend

  • Gratgy

    Lol! coming from someone whose ancestors not only lived under foreign invaders, but even converted to their religion. As for the caste system Google “caste system in Muslims”Recommend

  • Gratgy

    44% of Pakistan do not have toilets as well but then you would rather look over the fenceRecommend

  • Gratgy

    Yeah if someone does not agree with you then they must be paid. yea Right!Recommend

  • Gratgy

    Muslims do not work, they live on state alms and breed like rabbits and then will eventually attack the very country on whose alms they survive onRecommend

  • Gratgy

    and Pakistan is now known as an international migraineRecommend

  • Gratgy

    Unlike you, the only direction we see our self going is forward.Recommend

  • Gratgy

    Yup, Its much easier to play the ostrich and stick their heads into the sandRecommend

  • Gratgy

    Please don’t strain yourself. Look for other shorter comments to readRecommend

  • Gratgy

    Newsflash!! Whoever comes to power, it is the army which rules Pakistan. What does Pakistan have to offer Obama for him to visit, other than the promise that Pakistan will not create more mischief?Recommend

  • Agni Hotri

    Rocky, you are rather an ignorant person who does your courteous and informed fellow nationals a great injustice with your bigoted rant. For your obvious lack of knowledge about the history of India, the land of your ancestors (unless you are Arab-descended): For a period of 1000 years (before the British arrived and dismantled the last of the Mughals’ decrepit demesne), often violent, thieving, and bloodthirsty invaders from Arabia, Persia, Turkey and Central Asia descended on India like the wolf on the fold and forcibly converted, killed, pillaged, raped, subjugated and tried to destroy an ancient peaceful civilization as they had done elsewhere (e.g. North Africa, Middle East, parts of Southern Europe, and Central Asia) with no trace of the older civilizations left. While they were failed in that attempt, they did succeed in implanting a hostile alien faith and turbocharging the Muslim population from 0 (in the 8th Century before their arrival) to 500 million today. “Ghar wapsi and all that crap”, alas, is a reaction, a misguided attempt by some – non-Muslims (OK, some Hindutva-opiate imbibing folks) to reassert themselves and fight “Islamic style fascism” (as you put it) fire with fire. First learn about how tens of millions of Hindus and others were massacred over a millennium and their Hindu lands stolen (for lack of a better word), and millions of brother Muslims massacred in 1971 in Bangladesh. Survey the present sorry terror-ridden bloody landscape of your own land to see who is trying to really take the country back to medieval times. If these reactionary forces succeed, may they take you with them.Recommend

  • Meshuga

    All those wars you cite were initiated and lost by the Pakistani military and politicians. If India wanted its land back, why did it agree to the partition in the first place? It would have demanded a referendum in 1947 involving the entire population of 300 million Hindus (in the majority then and now), Christians, Sikhs, Parsis, Buddhists, Jains, atheists, along with the 100 million Indian Muslims. You are missing the point about all the wars that were begun by a frustrated Pakistan single-focused intent on seizing the remainder of Jammu and Kashmir when it was out-manoeuvered in 1948 by Maharaja Hari Singh. I hope you realize that the Kashmir issue has created and keeps alive all the sectarian dreams of those angry Jihadi/Lashkar folks now turning on you and prevents Pakistan from maturing into a stable, independent, and self-respecting state. You keep on shooting yourself in the foot. India and all its neighbors, indeed the entire world (including China), have already come to this realization. US and Saudis exploited this Achilles’ heel in the 1980s to use the ideologically “pure” fertile soil to create fierce mujahideens to fight the Russkies in the 1980s. Chinese is and will continue to use it for their own purposes. Even India will be tempted, if progress in peaceful relations is unavailing, to use it to bleed Pakistan’s economy by forcing it to spend more on defense than it can afford or needs. Learn some Game Theory and strategy. (By and by,your country willingly created and abetted the terrorists and their terrorism. To say you are now fighting them for the region is kind of rich and lacks self-knowledge.)Recommend