Religious discrimination: Plaguing the educated class

Published: September 18, 2014
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If education can’t set our impaired sense of ethics right, I don’t know what can.

My heart wept when a house in Gujranwala was set ablaze, in July this year, just because it belonged to an Ahmadi family. At the time, I attributed this wave of extreme religious attitudes across the country to the lack of education in most of its parts. I was successful in finding solace in the thought that once educated, our society would be able to traverse such petty differences and the majority would learn to live in harmony with the minorities.

On September 10, 2014, the day the society elections at IBA-Karachi took place, my utopian ideas were shattered. That day, I could see the future of Pakistan toppled in front of my eyes.

Elections became a ‘hot’ topic ever since the fall session commenced about three weeks ago and the campaigning kept gaining momentum each day; friends turned into foes and heated arguments sprouted all over the campus and on social media. However, no lines were crossed as these shenanigans are a part of the election process, be it any institution, entity or country.

For those who are not familiar with the IBA Student Council elections, all voters are supposed to vote for the student council along with any three IBA societies. For both the student council and the societies, there are usually two panels, labelled as red and blue panels.

As the day progressed, IBA students kept turning out to cast their votes for candidates who appealed most to them. Candidates and their supporters were seen trying to talk the voters into voting for the ‘righteous’ panel, which mostly constituted themselves or their friends.

Towards the second-half of the day, when emerging voting trends showed one side possibly losing for the post of the Student Council’s CFO  (Chief Financial Officer), IBA students  witnessed some of their friends play the card of religious discrimination to win the dirty game we call ‘politics’ for the sake of a less explicit word.

Momineen, mominon ko vote do.”

(Muslims, vote for Muslims.)

This was the slogan that hit the people standing in the vicinity and crumbled their conscience. Apparently, one of the two major candidate contesting for CFO was a Hindu and some of the so-called ‘Muslims’  from the opposing side tried to bring his religious affiliation to the front in a last attempt to cut down on his votes. Whereas this pathetic tactic did succeed in bringing a few people onto their side, it did them more harm than good as their unethical behaviour was out in the open.

Being an IBA student, I feel deeply saddened and indignant by this sheer act of immorality and religious discrimination by the people I come across on campus every day or even considered them as my friends at some point. Not only have they brought shame to a worldly reputable institution but have also misrepresented its students and Muslims on a whole as intolerant beings who are incapable of drawing a line between personal and political affairs.

To the ‘Muslim’ students of IBA who do not deserve to be called humans, let alone belong to any sacred faith anymore, I ask:  since when did credentials stop being independent of religious views?  Since when did you become so pious that you start picking on those who are not pious enough by your standards? Who gave you the right to be the representative of the Muslim community that you start voicing its false consensus?

If education can’t set our impaired sense of ethics right, I don’t know what can. It is horrifying to realise that some of the most educated minds of this country find it acceptable to resort to discrimination on religious grounds for a mere political win, despite knowing the number of people who have lost their lives to it.

Syeda Jaisha

Jaisha Syeda

A KL-YES alumna, pursuing a bi-major degree in Economics and Mathematics from Institute of Business Administration-Karachi. She tweets as @JaishaSyeda (twitter.com/JaishaSyeda)

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Sane

    Same can also be seen in National General Elections, when voter are attracted on religious, sect or caste basis. This has polluted to every class of the society either educated or illiterate.Recommend

  • Saad Aslam

    It’s sad to see the intellectuals adopting religion as a strategy. Most of us haven’t utilized our brains in understanding our Deen. Not just Deen e Islam every religion has taught to respect one another.Recommend

  • Wb

    A very naive article.

    We know what is happening in Syria, Nigeria, Somalia, Yeman, Iraq everyday.
    Indonesia and Malysia are slowly moving towards extremism.

    ET, all the above are facts. You can google and find out.
    Recommend

  • M

    Not sure weather ET can publish that as my truth might not resonate well with ET’s editing policy! I have also participated in IBA elections and seriously doubt writer’s claim of use of religion. People who are in the know will agree that at IBA elections are run on the basis of “hostalides vs day scholars” and “burgers vs non-burger” lines, rather than in the name of religion!Recommend

  • Murthy

    I am an Indian and atheist who never believes in superstitious beliefs and rituals. I really believe that the only way to improve the lot of the poor anywhere is through offering education, which will help them think and analyse everything under the sun. It is really shocking that students of an elite institution have resorted to the basest practice for the sake of some “political” gain.Recommend

  • Sufi saeen

    So you’re going to judge an institute based on the actions of a small group of people who were playing as dirty?

    Politics is dirty all around the world.Recommend

  • Talha

    WOW…what a read!!

    First of all i applaud you for coming out and talking about it without caring what backlash you ll get after this in your own educational institution!

    Education enlighten us and teaches tolerance because we have a better perspective to look and judge things rationally but no matter how educated and sophisticated we become we will never abjure from this act because we are built like this.

    I have seen/ heard people referring to our “Pakistani” Hindu community as Indians just because of their religion and i am not talking about kids thinking/ saying this but grown men who even witnessed post freedom period growing up!

    I so want to express how i feel and what can be done and what cannot but does it even matter?

    I have lived a portion of my life in the concrete jungle – USA and have seen these so called “Momin” who were just polishing their politics in your institution mingle/ work with Jews, Hindus and Christians without a hitch. I wonder what makes them so adamant when they are in Pakistan?

    I just hope that i see equality for all mankind in Pakistan in my lifetime!

    Thank you for writing this.

    God Bless!Recommend

  • Prashant

    Jaisha, a good one but people standing for elections resorting to religious polarisation is nothing new whether it is India or Pakistan, though it sounds weird to witness something like this in a campus.

    “If education can’t set our impaired sense of ethics right, I don’t know what can.”

    It depends upon what you mean by education, if going to some of the best institutes is what makes you educated, then the world has enough examples of educated men and women putting the entire mankind to shame on the other hand you will see people who have never been to a school, leave alone going to a reputed institute like yours, but they would be able to put most of the educated lot to shame by their acts and words.

    There is not an alternative for compassion/ tolerance and respect and none of them are learnt from any of the institutes, you just have to believe in it.Recommend

  • Moiz Omar

    Wow. This is sad to hear. Recommend

  • Syed Mubeen Hussain Sabzwari

    There is a difference between ‘Taleem’ and ‘Tarbiyat’.Recommend

  • SM

    why bring the institutions name and tarnish it based on actions of some individuals. the article could have been written in a more general way and the issue be brought up at university level instead of making it public-an individuals action/verbiage is not in control of any university but if brought up with them i am sure corrective action would be taken. this is more like blaming parents for actions of their children or for that matter blaming a country for the actions of its citizens which is obviously not right.Recommend

  • Farabi

    I studied at IBA and I unconditionally denounce religious discrimination but your argument is really ill-founded. A small group of students is NOT representative of all the students who studied, are studying, and will study at IBA. Second, this was not institutional discrimination. Finally, religious and racial discrimination exists across socio-economic classes. Can you back your assumption with facts that education reduces discrimination? For If it did, parts of west would be discrimination-free. It is not. We don’t live in utopia. Please research facts and vet your argument’s logic before you bring an institution like IBA to disrepute, which has been as meritorious as it gets in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Faraz Talat

    I am so happy that you wrote about these bigots.

    Regrettably, this cult mindset isn’t uncommon. You were just fortunate enough to have heard it being so shamelessly vocalized, otherwise it exists as an unsaid agreement among many Pakistanis; even the educated ones.Recommend

  • Farabi

    I will defend to death your right to your opinion but not at the expense of hurting ours. I am sure that despite being ashamed of IBA, you will still use its brand-name, which has been built on decades of being indiscriminate, to get a job. I humbly request ET to please change this article’s flimsy title which seems to suggest that IBA had something to do with it. I also suggest Jaisha Syeda to take this up with the admin instead of pulling off publicity stuntsRecommend

  • saqib

    She won’t get any backlash because she belongs to the society which understand this. So no need to applaud her bravery.Recommend

  • Saqib

    This is politics, it always gets dirty. Should avoid elections. Even in the most educated and developed country, then come down to playing dirty tricks when it comes to elections.Recommend

  • Ram

    As an Indian here my observations in your article, I was pleasantly surprised to knwo that a Hindu is confident to run for elections in IBA, this is a good news it will depend on this candidate to win hearts of students to win there votes. You also need to look into IBA institution and see if they are discriminating on religion basis if not then there is no problem, in politics people always will resort to any method to win votes and religion itself is creation of politics so there is nothing to surprised here.

    Also remember we always have uneducated graduates, yourself is trying to win some cheesy points trying to be secular in a country created based on religionRecommend

  • Mubbashir

    wow.. I have been with the Institute for the past two years of my MBA and I haven’t seen anything like this. This slogan was probably thrown out on a lighter side to gather more voters and should not be confused with the religious divide.

    Please abstain from generalizing in the future…Recommend

  • J L

    Typical one sided reporting. How conveniently you forgot to add the part where a teacher (that also a religious one) scolded students and told how we’re not supposed to act this way.Recommend

  • Latif

    She might from the institution though. But that would be even worse.Recommend

  • Abdul Muqeet

    It happened but IBA People throw that slogan with a wide margin. Jaisha, it was a small group of students (may be 4-5 students out of IBAs 2200 Students) which did this and I am sure it back fired on Blue Panel. Rishi Kumar (A Hindu guy Contesting on Merit) won this election with a wide margin. IBA promotes Merit, and it has its value intact for years. I will suggest to clear the facts rather putting the half picture.

    It happened in front of us and we throw this idea of Religion Discrimination. Chanting few slogans should have not perturbed you rather it would have make you strong to see the difference of IBA students. It DID NOT WORK in IBA…Recommend

  • Hamza A Khan

    she didn’t judge IBA you fool. How come people are so stupid? Amazes me every time.Recommend

  • Oris

    I have studied from IBA in past and although I belongs to minority I never came across such situation but yes I can’t deny that because as a society we do such act and IBA students are part of society. Some might lost his conscious and spilled such words.Recommend

  • IBAian

    Absolutely agreed. In my four years at IBA, I’ve seen all kinds of tactics being used for gaining votes, but those are only a small portion of students and not the whole institution can be blamed for this. The author should go to admin and complain instead of pulling such stunts.Recommend

  • Humayun Maqbool

    This one sided reporting is a total misguide from real issue. These slogans were raised by 4-5 students, out of 2200, who in turn faced defeat. One act of small group shouldn’t be generalized for whole IBA community. I managed a club at IBA for one year and during my period we never prioritized team members on basis of religion, sect or cast.

    Facts should be stated instead promoting false statements.Recommend

  • mahvish siddique

    It is true that power games and politics drive people to extremes as we unfortunately witnessed in these elections! However, the solution does not lie in publicising what happens at your own institute! It is sad that we have become that nation who instead of trying to make things right silently, seek to publicise their own faults in the name of freedom of expression! I am also a student of IBA and I believe that if I didn’t stop this while it started, I should at least ensure it doesn’t continue in a way that does not degrade my institute in front of the world! Recommend

  • Humnah

    she is getting it. I’m from IBA. And they’re all flipping out, I think she’s right tho.Recommend

  • fatima

    Totally agree with you! But this time around, religion did come in between. Though, it was only used by a small group of students. Majority, didn’t even consider it to be an issue. So yeah, an an immoral act conducted by a small group of people doesn’t represent the whole student police of iba.Recommend

  • nadia adnan

    plz dont use our university name in all this its personalRecommend

  • sidzia

    We at IBA are one family, I have friends from every religion and I love them like my siblings which includes the person being targeted in this whole episode. You cannot judge EVERYone based on a group of narrow minded people because the institute does well enough to groom us into broadminded individuals so I condemn the criticism brought upon the institution, because not everyone can do justice to the education they receive, It’s not the institute’s fault, It’s purely a personalized act yet shame on those who did that you didn’t only disgrace yourself but brought all of us, the religion, the institute, your family and your teachers into doubt as well.Recommend

  • ibaian

    Shame For tarnishing Iba’s repute based on over-generalization. Recommend

  • fam

    First of all if education was a solution to discrimination, European countries and USA would have been clean of it, yet they are not, secondly you can’t defame an institute for an act of a student. Yes I hope the candidate gets disqualified. It would have been better had you raised the issue with the Dean. But I get it, you were running out of ideas for an article.Recommend

  • fatima

    Jaisha, i strongly condemn this act but i am not really happy with the fact that your brought this issue to a public forum. Firstly, it was just a very small group of people who conducted this act, and they were the ones who were strongly condemned by almost all the students of IBA. Also, rishi kumar won the elections despite this act which clearly shows that the discrimination did not take place in the election process and the results were purely based on merit. Secondly, being a student at IBA, you should have taken this issue to the admin and if they didn’t have taken any measure against it, then you should have brought this issue to a public forum. You are a part of IBA, and just like each one of us, you are also a brand ambassador of this institution so it’s not a wise step to bring the name of an institution under a bad light. That also, when the institution itself doesn’t discriminate at all. Just an immature act of a few students doesn’t represent the whole institution, just like the presence of a few terrorists in Pakistan doesn’t make the whole nation terrorist.Recommend

  • Latif

    She never judged the institution, she never blamed it. All the article highlights is the horrendous act committed, and the act should be rightly condemned for a better future.Recommend

  • Aam Aadmi

    This is how you defame the entire institution publicly based on the dirty acts of a few.
    Well Done! (Y)

    It could have been more generic since it’s an issue in all major places.Recommend

  • Prashant

    Saqib, I am not sure where do you want the elections to be avoided, if you are referring to elections in the college campus, they should not be banned as long as you believe in an electoral democracy and if you do not, you may go for a blanket ban on all kinds of elections.Recommend

  • Proud IBAian

    making your mind just because you hear “someone” inciting religious slogan is injustice to the rest who voted on merit! please try a different topic to get famous! IBA elections are undoubtedly best example to follow in Pakistan!Recommend

  • Prashant

    “So you’re going to judge an institute based on the actions of a small group of people who were playing as dirty?”

    She is not judging an institute, she is highlighting the intellectual bankruptcy of those who are considered educated.Recommend

  • Ain

    Stop judging an instituiton on the basis of people studying there. It was not related to IBA’s admin or something, I’m sorry.
    And if I’m not wrong Rishi Kumar (I guess he’s a hindu) won the contest with a wide margin.
    Secondly, what I believe is students at IBA are mature enough to decide their votes and the elected person’s merit. They are not immature that they decide whom to vote on the basis of the sentence consisting five words. This is merely a one-sided argument!
    Lastly, why are you raising your voice once the elections are done? You could have gone staright to the admin at that time only and talked about it.
    Recommend

  • AHMED

    WELL IAM AN IBA STUDENT TOO AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID BUT YOU MISSED THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT AND THAT IS THAT THE STUDENTS OF THIS INSTITUTE STILL WENT ON TO VOTE FOR THE NON MUSLIM CANDIDATE AND HE WON BY THE MOST VOTES IN HISTORY OF IBA! SO THAT MEANS THAT STUDENTS OF THE INSTITUTE DENOUNCED THOSE CHANTING RELIGIOUS SLOGANS AND THROUGH VOTE THEY MADE THEIR VOICES HEARD! JAISHA THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD AND BAD BUT DEMOCRATICALLY THIS IS ONLY HOW YOU CAN SILENCE THEM AND STUDENTS OF IBA JUST DID THAT! BY THIS IAM NOT DENOUNCING THE ACT YES IT WAS WRONG AND SHOULD BE ELIMINATED BUT ITS YOUR DUTY TO TELL ENTIRE STORY SO THAT PEOPLE DONT ACCUSE YOUR ISNTITUTE ON ACTIONS OF A FEW!Recommend

  • AHMED

    well jaisha iam an IBA student too and i agree with what you have to say! but you missed the most important point and that is that the students of IBA denounced this slogan! They voted for the non Muslim candidate and he won! students of IBA made their voices heard through their voting rights and this is how educated class brings change ! yes what happened was wrong and should be eliminated from our systems however you must know that this world is filled with all sorts of people and the change which we can make today is democratically and students of IBA just did that! however through your article people will accuse our institute on actions of a few because they don’t know the entire picture !Recommend

  • AHMED

    well jaisha iam an IBA student too and i agree with what you have to say! but you missed the most important point and that is that the students of IBA denounced this slogan! They voted for the non Muslim candidate and he won! students of IBA made their voices heard through their voting rights and this is how educated class brings change ! yes what happened was wrong and should be eliminated from our systems however you must know that this world is filled with all sorts of people and the change which we can make today is democratically and students of IBA just did that! however through your article people will accuse our institute on actions of a few because they don’t know the entire picture !Recommend

  • Parvez

    If I read this correctly, the deserving Hindu boy did win the CFO slot……..if so, that should reaffirm your faith in the fact that good most always wins over bad.Recommend

  • saad

    I don’t think thats the point of the writer. The point is that even education from Pakistan’s top institute couldn’t change an extremist mind.Recommend

  • siesmann

    It will be naive to expect that religion won’t be used as a tool,when you have been taught from your first breath a hatred towards other communities,when citizens of your own countries are labelled as foreigners,and working against your own country,whenever day they are labelled as traitors,when thei history ,culture is ridiculed thorugh blatant legal framework,and mullah-inspired hatred,it is hard to expect that this wont happen in universities..And it wont end anytime soon -need systematic overhalt of school books,a ban against hate speech,and a will of the government and civil society.I is few people who play havoc,and the majority remains silent.Religion should make one strong,not weak.Recommend

  • sabeeqa

    Pakistan was created to safegaurd the rights of muslims, not to snatch the rights of non muslims!!! and no mistake should be made about this. a nation that has faced discrimination should and can speak against it. its high time the rest of the world knows that a true muslim only defends his own rights as well as others.Recommend

  • T

    you are new at IBA, you will regret this illogical generalization one day!Recommend

  • Suneel

    Being a Hindu, I never faced religious discrimination in IBA. For me, IBA is the only place in Pakistan, where there wasn’t any religious discrimination. During my last 6 year affiliation with IBA, there wasn’t a single incidence like that.Recommend

  • Hueshang Ansari

    Why was even a small group allowed to discriminate? In a hallowed
    institution? As the saying goes,..the weakest member of an institution,
    a team, an organisation is the true true face of that entity. The fact that
    a small number was allowed to blackened the face of IBA draws a picture
    of the real IBA.. And anyone who finds excuses for this “small” group….
    Can you imagine this happening at Oxford?, Yale?…Sorbonne? NO!!
    Only here it can be done and was allowed to be done.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    Its the story of a Frog in a Well all over again.
    We see this all over the world.
    Due to the Two Nation Theory such divisive, communal mindset is more common Recommend

  • ayesha

    thank you for writing this article…I studied at IBA for a while and was often shocked by the narrow-minded approach students there had. And to all your haters, she’s not tarnishing IBA’s name by exposing what some people at IBA believe and the religious discrimination that they practice. She’s exposing how even in our educated elite that attend institutions like IBA such a disgusting mentality exists. Does this not perturb you? Why are you attacking her for courageously raising her voice against this? And by hiding it and sugar-coating incidents like these, the flawed mentality doesn’t go away. See wrong for wrong. This is not her bashing IBA but exposing the status quo, even if it was just one person voicing and democratizing such discriminatory opinions at IBA, that’s ONE TOO MANY.Recommend

  • siesmann

    some are dirtiest,It is to be expected when persecution is part of the constitution Recommend

  • siesmann

    and people will believe you?!!!!!Recommend

  • siesmann

    In the west discrimaination is not taught in schools,and enshrined in the constitution.Recommend

  • siesmann

    Peopel could believe your assertion if the college administration had publically come out and condemned it,and so also the students other than “some” that you assert,would have publically acted against it.Keeping quiet is a tacit approval of the oppressor.Recommend

  • siesmann

    at least she has the guts to say it!Think about yourself!!Recommend

  • hj

    What a stupid article.. you writers need to be more responsible man.. you can’t generalize stuff based on one incident. I’ve spent 6 years at IBA over the periods 2006 to 2014. Never have I witnesses or even heard of such incident. Stop tarnishing the image of the few remaining good institutions in Pakistan. Recommend

  • Sajjad Ahmad

    I agree with someone’s comment below that the slogan was screamed to gather more votes, if there was any glimpse to them of getting more votes through dancing, they would have done so. So kindly do not mislead it to some kind of religious disintegration. And one more thing, the general level of mentality of IBA’ans are very low, they do not know much about religion, politics, world below them and what I usually say about them that they don’t know “20 rupy m pura din kese guzarna hai”. So inka stance bohot week hai, and I can say so because I have been with them for 5 years and I have thought many students and made them go to IBA!Recommend

  • amer

    Well said! This is another example of ignorance in our society & sub culture. I hope this changes soon. Recommend

  • Hur

    Rishi Kumar – You are my hero !!!!Recommend

  • israr

    Being IBAians we can clearly guess the reason you ignored the positive side of the story where IBAians turned down a religiously biased call from a small group… You must be a day scholar (a typical sensitive breed uncomfortable with plurality…)Recommend

  • Jibran

    Bad, but how does the writer say “they dont deserve to be called humans”? Interesting!Recommend

  • Eskay

    Dear Writer, . this is nothing but an election tactic by an immature few. Immaturity of these students aside, this article really makes me question your loyalty towards IBA. I am more than definite that you will cash yourself in the market by IBA’s name as soon as you graduate.Recommend

  • Eskay

    Dear Writer, . this is nothing but an election tactic by an immature few. Immaturity of these students aside, this article really makes me question your loyalty towards IBA. I am more than definite that you will cash yourself in the market by IBA’s name as soon as you graduate.Recommend

  • Seher Khan

    Yes, Rishi contested for a very important post in the student council, and he won. Along with other people from minorities. There are many Hindu students at IBA. They are great people to spend time and study with. They also work actively in societies and do on-campus jobs like any other student. I can’t say about the rest of the city, but at IBA no one is discriminated on the bases of religion. Otherwise Rishi, for example, wouldn’t have won.
    The incident Jaisha has mentioned did happen but it has been stretched out of proportions, and ET made it worse by changing the article name on their own to spice up the news.
    The slogans made by those few individuals, though cheap and pathetic, I am *certain* (being a current student there) were made in jest. And in any case it is unfair to defame the name of the institution because of a small group of dumbwits. Recommend

  • Eskay

    yes.. thats because it is true!!! thats the general aura of elections at IBA!!Recommend

  • Ali

    Institution holds the right to let go any of its students anytime. I hope the author doesn’t become a victim of this policy !
    And we have seen such incidents of letting students go for petty reasons in past in the very institution.Recommend

  • Talha

    Please read my comment again. I never mentioned “society” i mentioned “educational institution” and btw why dont we applaud her? just because she is talking about minority? i am baffled by your statement!Recommend

  • hueshang Ansari

    ‘water bottle’ still hating Muslims. And Islam and Pakistan. That’s 1200 years
    of baggage.May Rama have mercy on you.Recommend

  • Latif

    But still, Pakistan acknowledges the problem of the terrorists although they might be a small group of the whole population. Same way, we have to accept and face the problem at hand. Not making it public or making it public is not the issue, our concern should rather be that this discrimination gets eliminated, however minute it may be.Recommend

  • I

    It’s interesting how Express Tribune loves to criticise IBA repeatedly instead of highlighting all the drama that goes on in most of the educational institutes.
    Being an IBA grad myself, I’m not surprised that a small group of people would do something like that. Also, you need to open your eyes towards more things that happen, this religious discrimination is a very small part of the corrupt practices that exist in our society. Yes it should not have happened, but it’s important to note and change other wrong practices as well.
    And Express Tribune, kindly focus on other institutes too.Recommend

  • Faulitics

    “Momineen, mominon ko vote do.”

    This is normal to you?Recommend

  • Minhal Fawad

    I don’t know why people have turned this way. Alhamdulillah my institution is against politics and never have I seen politics play it’s part anywhere in the university. Be it the elections, the societies, even the classroom itself. Elections should not be held in this way. You shouldn’t feel ashamed but you should surely pray for such Muslims who just use the name of their religion for gaining votes and being so materialistic.Recommend

  • Proud IBAian

    I’ve been an active participant in the IBA political scenario for the past 4 years and have witnessed first hand how the elections happen. Whereas this is a sad incident and a strong response should have been adopted by the IBA admin, I also believe that the act of 4-5 people does not represent the institute and its values. The fact that the Hindu candidate had a lead and there was a strong response against this chanting from the student body itself, makes me believe there is light at the end of the tunnel.Recommend

  • Ashamed Pakistani

    The answer lies in your assumption. What we receive in schools, colleges and universities can no longer be called education. The focus is now on getting through the syllabi with flying colors rather than on how to be good or sensible humans.Recommend

  • anom

    politics is dirty every where education doesn’t change it much. Ever heard of Bill O’Reilly? case and point.Recommend

  • Kaab

    I agree with Farabi .. But I see that the writer is aggrieved by an isolated event, which by no means represents the culture or the spirit of IBA, let’s not jump to baseless conclusions ..

    I myself have been a part of IBA Karachi, and contested in elections, and by all means they are taken seriously and hyped up by the student body, but never has the IBA management let their guard down to allow any unfair / discriminative behavior to prevail. Action has been taken in this case as well.

    In respect of the subject being an internal isolated matter at IBA, it does not deserve to be discussed at this forum, and I can’t help but to think the writer takes this as an attempty at recognition at the cost of defaming an Institution of high standards and values. This is a sad attempt and I condemn your lack of judgement and consciousness. Recommend

  • http://futurecmo.org/ Babar Khan

    Last year they denied a job to a blind Professor. The man very adequately teaches social sciences at CBM and SZABIST, but he’s not IBA material.Recommend

  • qazi

    //On September 10, 2014, the day the society elections at IBA-Karachi took place, my utopian ideas were shattered. That day, I could see the future of Pakistan toppled in front of my eyes.//

    That does not sound sound like a judgment to you? i will really like to know what else does?Recommend

  • omer

    They were just kidding . if someone going it offensive please ask Dr ishrat to get a humor electoveRecommend

  • Prashant

    Okies bro, tell me when you see the conduct of the people outside IBA, not only within Pakistan but the entire world, does everything look hunky dory? The people in the subcontinent did not hate each other on religious lines during partition as much as they do now a days. If I give you the examples to suggest Sara was right in her opinion, I would go down as another hater, I will leave the rest to your imagination.Recommend

  • Shehryar Shahzad

    I do not understand why the author is being criticized for bringing this incident to the public eye. IBA students, faculty and alumni should not take this personally; the author is not attacking the institution by quoting an isolated incident to misdirect the readers, she is telling us about her actual personal experience – all facts.

    Although this was an isolated incident it gives a reflection of our society in general (at least that is what the author here intends to show). This is no disservice to the institution but rather a service. We need to learn to welcome warranted (and sometimes even unwarranted) criticism as it gives us an opportunity to learn from it and better ourselves. This malicious and defamatory blog post will actually have a positive impact on IBA and perhaps beyond (maybe that is why this is being blogged about on the internet).

    Also, somehow the idea of not bringing things to light just for the sake of preservation of reputation has never appealed to me. At least a bad reputation has more integrity to it than a falsely maintained one. Silly me.

    P.s. I also am an IBA alumnus and would like to personally thank the author for this
    service to my alma mater and my society.Recommend

  • Gp65

    Pkistanis faced discrimination in Hindu India and hence separated? Really? Wasn’t it the British who were ruling?Recommend

  • Prashant

    Some would be amazed by seeing you being amazed.Recommend

  • Prashant

    Admin? Rinkle Kumari went to courts, what happened? She is not just addressing the mindset among some in IBA but some among the society itself.Recommend

  • Ghalib

    Thanks for highlighting this instance of abuse of religion or abuse of religious identity. I think it’s really important to write and talk about such instances, which I conjecture are not uncommon at all across our society. I know that it has not been easy on you, and I really salute you for your both your courage and concern for the well-being of all of us.

    While I am deeply disappointed in the integrity and character of the individuals who used these slimy tactics, and also by extension disappointed in IBA as an institution in having granted admission to these individuals, the good news is that most IBA students seemed to have rejected this tactic, or that it backfired on those who tried to use it.

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  • Prashant

    “You shouldn’t feel ashamed but you should surely pray for such Muslims who just use the name of their religion for gaining votes and being so materialistic.”

    It is allright to be ashamed even when the topic has to do something with religion as being ashamed of an act committed by a co-religionist is not being apologetic for belonging to a particular community/faith.

    Also, turning to prayers for good/bad/ugly is not exactly holding people accountable. Cheers.Recommend

  • Prashant

    Rishi, you seem to have set the stage on fire, both within IBA and outside. ;)Recommend

  • vinsin

    I agree with you but there are some contradiction. Then why Indian Muslims then not moved to Pakistan. Then why Pakistan doesn’t allow Indian Muslims to move to Pakistan? Then why Pakistan signed Liquat Nehru Pact?Recommend

  • http://goreligions.com/ religion and community

    Yeah there really a big difference between personal and political affairs..And one need to understand it well.. http://goreligions.com/Recommend

  • Hamidah Fawad

    Hi. Just want to say that after the arrest of the IBA student who is alleged to have committed various acts of terror you stand vindicated. Your writing this article at the time that you did inspite of all the negative comments from the huffers and puffers defending IBA was very brave. You actually got it Spot On.Recommend

  • FarahKamal

    Wow you are brave girl, proud of you.Recommend