Remembering those in Kashmir who exist but are missing

Published: September 6, 2014
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Hundreds of Kashmiri families have lost their loved ones during the last 25 years of struggle for their right to “self-determination”. PHOTO: AFP

For hundreds of Kashmiri families whose relatives – mostly sons or husbands – have been subjected to custodial disappearances, the struggle for justice is, in many ways, a battle between memory and forgetfulness. They insist they won’t give up their fight; they won’t forget; and they won’t forgive.

Among many other serious crimes committed against humanity in disputed Jammu and Kashmir, the Indian government forces are also accused of subjecting between 8,000 to 10,000 Kashmiris to enforced custodial disappearance since the eruption of popular armed uprising against Indian rule in restive Himalayan region in 1989.

During a press conference in 2008, the state government led by Chief Minister Omar Abdullah admitted the number of those people who have disappeared in Jammu and Kashmir was 4,000. But the government also claims that many of those listed as disappeared may have crossed over to the other side of the Line of Control (LOC) – the de facto border dividing two parts of Kashmir – to receive ‘arms training’ in Muzaffarabad to fight India.

India and Pakistan have fought two full-fledged wars over disputed Kashmir in 1947-48, 1965 and a mini-war in 1998, which is also remembered as the Kargil War. Both nuclear countries claim the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir in full but have administered it in parts since 1947.

Pakistan celebrates September 6 as Defence Day (Youm-e-Difa) to commemorate sacrifices of her soldiers who lost their lives defending Lahore and Sialkot in the Indo-Pak war of 1965, also known as the Second Kashmir War.

There was a time in Kashmir when elderly people would make wills on their death beds and advise their progeny to hoist Pakistani flags on their tombstones and graves once Kashmir merged with Pakistan. The percentage of such pro-Pakistani people in disputed Kashmir has dwindled since, as more voices are raised in favour of the region’s complete independence after the anti-India uprising erupted in 1989.

International Day of the Disappeared

The Jammu and Kashmir Coalition of Civil Society (JKCSS) and Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons (APDP) commemorated International Day of the Disappeared in Srinagar, the capital of Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir separately. The APDP organised a sit-in protest against hundreds of enforced disappeared persons while the JKCCS organisers staged a play on the same theme and young Kashmiris recited poems to draw attention to a burning issue in the Kashmir valley.

Families and relatives of those Kashmiris subjected to custodial disappearances since 1989-90. Photo: Javed Dar

August 30 is observed as International Day of the Disappeared worldwide.

“In this struggle for justice we are not alone. Several movements across the globe have been raising their voice for the victims of enforced disappearances. Like us, many families have organised themselves in Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand,” the APDP chairperson Parveena Ahangar said in Srinagar.

Ms Ahangar’s group also exhibited various paintings to raise voice in favour of the survivors to demand justice.

After the discovery of around 2900 unmarked, unknown and mass graves in three districts of North Kashmir – Bandipore, Baramulla and Kupwara – in 2009, the two leading human rights bodies in 2012 named 500 “alleged perpetrators”, including two Major Generals and three Brigadiers of the Indian Army besides many other serving officers and soldiers, allegedly involved in extra-judicial killings, fake encounters, torture, rape and other crimes like abduction, extortion and enforced disappearances in Jammu and Kashmir.

According to the International Peoples’ Tribunal for Human Rights and Justice in Indian-administered Kashmir (IPTK) and the APDP – two human rights groups operating in Srinagar – their report was the outcome of a two-year-long painstaking research.

Meanwhile, on the International Day of the Victims of Enforced Disappearances, the JKCSS chose creative means to express solidarity with hundreds of Kashmiri families who have lost their loved ones during the last 25 years of struggle for the right to “self-determination”.

It was indeed a welcome break from the routine forms of protest.

Be te Chus Shahid

A play entitled Be te Chus Shahid (I’m also a witness) by young theatre director, Arshad Mushtaq, was staged in Srinagar to highlight the issue of the enforced custodial disappearances.

Be te Chus Shahid starts as one elderly man carrying a red box, full of letters, walks past a stone, and looks at the electric pole nearby. The fatigued man says that much time has passed by, and what not; he has been continuing with his journey for long. Unaware of his destination and how much more time he would require to complete his journey and mission, the man talks about various stages and steps involved. These are often tough.

There is curiosity among the audience as to what the old man’s journey is all about and what messages the letters contain. The old man carries on with his soliloquies and says that while the journey is tedious and wearisome, it is important to apply one’s mind and continue the process of critical thinking. Thinking is critical – he goes on repeating many a times. Had everyone cared to act after proper thinking, it would not have been a problem. The journey would have been much easier.

The character of old man in the play “Be te Chus Shahid” (I’m also the Witness). Photo: Javed Dar

He goes on further to say that somewhere along the line, we find someone who makes us think; they touch our sensibility and sensitivity and by reminding all of us not to forget the process of thinking. Otherwise you know that Satan is omnipresent with his honey tongue and spoon to deviate us from our main journey, our main objective.

By now, the audience is fully engrossed and absorbed into the play. The old man sits by the stone.

The man again emphasises the importance of thinking. And there is a voice from the audience,

“Who has time for thinking? Come to the point – [say] what you actually want to say”.

After this query, the old man responds by saying that he had already clarified that the load of thinking is not mandatory on everyone. He says he is talking about only those who are prepared to think. And that he knew that you, the audience, might be thinking about who he is, where he comes from, and what exactly he is carrying along with him.

Continuing, the old man says he will answer.

“I’m the one who I always have been. I’m a Kashmiri. And obviously when I’m a Kashmiri, I would have come from any corner of Kashmir, and I belong to Kashmir.”

And by the time the old man tries to respond to the next question about what he is carrying along in the box, we hear some noise and sound of someone coming. It is a young boy. He appears to be looking for someone. He calls out loud for that someone on more than one occasion. There is no one present there except the old man. He spots the young boy and asks him to come closer to him. Annoyed, the young boy protests about why he would come closer to a person who isn’t even an acquaintance.

A poignant conversation between the old man and young boy (two generations of Kashmiris) is the main plot of the play.

The young boy gets irritated by the words of the old man, like “knowing, thinking and identity”. The boy arrogantly asks the old man to mind his own business and not meddle in his affairs. Then the boy is seen waiting for one of his friends to play a T-20 cricket match.

The old man does not mind the boy’s arrogance and impatience. He repeats himself that he has been on a tiresome journey. The boy now asks him about his journey. What kind of journey, he asks. The boy also advises the old man that, given his age, he should have been at home trying to discover God.

“Age is not on your side to go for long journeys”, says the boy.

The old man smiles. The boy ridicules him for the need to go on such a journey in old age and why had he fallen into deep slumber once he was young. The man replies that he was awake and aware in his younger days too and only because of his awareness had he set out for his all-important journey.

Families and relatives of those Kashmiris subjected to custodial disappearances since 1989-90. Photo: Javed Dar

What journey, asks the boy again.

The journey I am continuing until now, the man replies.

Irritated, since he is unable to decipher anything, the boy asks him a different question,

“What is in the box you’re carrying?”

After a meaningful pause, the old man replies:

“It contains my identity. Not only mine, but yours too. Also of many others.”

“There are many messages in this,” the man adds.

The boy asks whose letters they were and again, there is some noise that comes from the background and it appears as if someone is calling the old man. He responds.

The old man hands his box of letters over to the young boy, who very reluctantly agrees to take it. Now only the boy is on the stage. The old man rushes but insists that the boy must take very good care of the “amaanat” (entrustment).

Meanwhile, after little hesitation and indecision, the boy starts reading the letters. He is astounded and overwhelmed by the content. He reads the letters, one by one. The first letter is about ‘Hilal’ whose mother is calling out loud for him and hoping for his miraculous return. Hilal was picked up by the Indian forces in Kashmir and got listed as ‘disappeared’.

The young boy picks up another letter. The story is even more painful. It is from a son to his father, who had disappeared in custody. The son has passed his examination and had been promoted to the fifth standard. All he wishes for is for his father to know about the good news.

The boy takes out the third letter from the box. This one is about a man who has lowered seven unidentified bodies into the grave. He marks the bodies in his own way with a hope that if ever someone comes to enquire about them, they would be able to ascertain identity of the unidentified. While reading these letters, tears trickle down the cheeks of the young boy on the stage. He begins to understand the importance of the old man’s journey, message and the entrustment.

Families and relatives of those Kashmiris subjected to custodial disappearances since 1989-90. Photo: Javed Dar

Meanwhile, the old man reappears on stage and asks the young boy to return the box of letters to him.

“I hope I didn’t take too long to return,” says the old man.

The young boy shook his head and then says that he wasn’t going to give the letters back to the old man.

“Are you sure, are you aware, and ready, for this long journey?” asks the old man.

Confident, the boy says that he is prepared for the journey and aware that the box of letters contains more than just letters, it contains his existence, his story and the story of his fellow Kashmiris, and the journey of their existence.

“And like you, I’m also the witness.”

Be te Chus Shahid”.

The young boy asks the old man to leave. As the man is about to leave, the boy calls him again to ask one last question.

“Tell me where you had gone, who called you?”

“I was called by the one who had entrusted me with this responsibility as I did with you,” replies the old man.

The old man further adds that he was convinced that the young boy is the right person to carry forward the journey and mission of remembrance as a conscious witness.

“Yes, I’m the witness. Be te Chus Shahid”, the boy replies.

Both the old man and the young boy look towards the sky. The sun rises…

Curtains.

Protest

The play was performed on stage for the first time on December 8, 2011, in memory of Kashmir’s young poet, Agha Shahid Ali.

After the play, a US based Kashmiri poet, Rafiq Kathwari, while speaking on the occasion said it was imperative on the Indian and Jammu and Kashmir governments to,

“Tell us (Kashmiris) where they committed such crimes, when they did it, how they did it, and also possibly tell us why they did it”.

He also read a poem of his on a comparable theme.

Renowned satirist-poet Zareef Ahmad Zareef speaking on the occasion of the International Day of the Disappeared. Photo: Javed Dar

Noted paediatrician and author, Dr Altaf Hussain, said that the only demand of the Kashmiris was that a crime has been committed against humanity, not against Muslims, not against Kashmiris, and therefore the international community must pressurise the Indian government to conduct a fair probe under the auspices of international agencies to ascertain facts about the hundreds of cases of disappearances in Kashmir.

Others who spoke on the occasion included satirist-poet Zareef Ahmad Zareef, senior Kashmiri journalist Zahiruddin, JKCCS President Parvez Imroz and others.

This play made us understand that, in order to give away a powerful message, protesting on the streets isn’t the only way. One can be creative in ones ways and these creative avenues leave a lasting impact on the minds of those who observe it.

Gowhar Geelani

Gowhar Geelani

The author is a writer, journalist and political commentator from Srinagar, the South Asian Journalism Programme (SAJP) scholar 2015, the first Kashmiri to be selected as Munich Young Leader 2014. He has also served the Deutsche Welle, in Germany, as an editor. He tweets as @gowhargeelani

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • نائلہ

    May Allah keep Kashmir’s residents safe. Recommend

  • Prashant

    “Tell us (Kashmiris) where they committed such crimes, when they did it, how they did it, and also possibly tell us why they did it”.

    Many of the Kashmiris have disappeared, not all of them are in graves but many of them are for sure not alive any longer.

    Any counter insurgency would demand brutal tactics to overcome a brutal opponent. Kashmir was no different. India Army would not tell where they did it, when they did it, who exactly did it because the mandate was clear, which was to suppress the militancy at any cost and Indian Govt would not want to undo any of it as peace after violence comes at a cost, this was the cost the Indian state along with Kashmiris had to pay.

    My heart goes out for those who have not only lost their near and their dear ones but were unlucky enough not being able to carry them to their graves either and would never know where there graves are.Recommend

  • saifuulah

    the best possible thing for Kashmir is to be independent of Pakistan and india. fellow kashmiris be free of Pakistan and india, Recommend

  • Rahul

    I will look out for your next article covering the plight of the Kashmiri Pundits!Recommend

  • ajay gupta

    1. Jammu & Kashmir is not disputed. It belongs to India.
    2. No word about the displaced, killed hindu pandits….they spoil the sob story, don’t they??
    3. Yes, the Indian army has committed excesses: not all of it justified. But the same army is now helping the flooded state, again, not righting the wrongs in any way. what did u expect the centre to do when a state rises up in insurgency against it? Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    This article was about one particular community only. There is a bias by not even mentioning the Pandits who were driven out or have gone missing.

    It talks about only one side of the story. The side which paints the state as the villain.

    Hindus, Sikhs and Buddists of Kashmir do not consider the Indian state as villains. They welcome the Indian state action. Where is that side of the story?

    Aren’t Sikhs and Buddists are minorities in India? Just like Muslims?

    While all this moral posturing is cute, but it disappears when talking about the minorities of Kashmiris, eh?

    Selective Humanity..
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  • Kamal Yaar

    How about missing in Baluchistan….Their family members are still sitting in Islamabad. Present drama going on in Pakistan is roots in missing in Baluchistan. Recommend

  • Prakash

    Author should also highlight the plight of Kashmiri Pundits who are living as refugee in their own country for wider audience of Kashmiri people sufferingRecommend

  • Parvez

    Hard to believe…….only one comment.Recommend

  • Aseem

    May Almighty keep everyone safe everywhere.Recommend

  • Jayman

    What about the hundreds of thousands missing in Balochistan? Any good wishes for them?Recommend

  • amoghavarsha.ii

    could you write similarly about pundits too? too one sided even to start judging !!!!Recommend

  • Vikrant

    Why is my comment not been published? Only goes to show that @ET too is a supporter of this fifth-columnist… the thing that stands out is the 4th photo – showing half the audience having a snooze while some boring poet/satirist pontificates about something or the other! Shows the worth of the work of such fifth-columnists living off the land of Hindustaan. But Carry on lads…. and sleep well.Recommend

  • BhikhariBasher

    You are lucky Mr. Gilani that you live in the Jammu and Kashmir that is administered as per the Indian constitution and guarantees the right to life and property.
    ET moderator, let’s see how much gumption you have to publish this. I would be very surprised indeed if this comment appears as is.Recommend

  • Virkaul

    Also the BalochRecommend

  • someone

    How about remembering the missing people in Balochistan or millions of IDPs whose house are bombed to the ground?Recommend

  • abhi

    I wonder will there be any play explaining the attrocities done by militants? It may not happen because one needs real courage to speak against them.Recommend

  • Sid

    What about human rights of Pundits? Any heart for them ? This hypocrisy is the reason why world will never support your cause. Because it is purely racial not human. Don’t try your luck gathering support (besides from Pakitanis) by playing humanity card. Cause your humanity is very much selective. And this is where you lose the right to claim anything.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    Also the punjabis and the Pathans and the Sindhis.

    We are united. Recommend

  • chandran

    what about disappearance of kasmiri panditsRecommend

  • L.

    These are questions you should be asking the writer, not me. Why do you think I said “residents”?
    And honestly, if no one writes about the “other side of the story”, no ones gonna know. Recommend

  • Nomad1412

    How many of these Kashmiris crossed the border for training before the border fence came up, we shall never know. Even now there are periodic reports of missing persons returning to India after first seeking guarantees from the J&K government which has an amnesty scheme for them.Recommend

  • L.

    With the number of Hindus here asking for their side of the story, it should not be too difficult for you ppl to collaborate and publish “the plight of the pandits”. Stop complaining and change things yourself.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    How is it best for Hindus, Sikhs and Buddists, even Shias and Ahmadis, of Kashmir best to be independent? Have you ever asked their opinion? Do you even care about their opinion?Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    But it’s the Pathans and the Balochis who are air raided for the past 68 years, not punjabis nor Sindhis.

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  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    I mentioned in my comment acknowledging you said “resident” but it was edited for some strange reason!

    I had mentioned that even though you said all Kashmiris, by commenting on a biased article you are legitimising it and that is condemnable.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    I commented detailing the disappearances of Pandits from the valley and their plight. Spent 10 mins writing the comment. Surprise surprise it didn’t pass the censors. I don’t want to waste 1hour writing a blog and never see it the light of the day.

    It’d also mentioned how Pandits are pro India and even presented evidence of them voting for BJP this summer and the Sunni resistance to them moving back to Kashmir and how hollow the Seperatist demand of humanitarian crisis is.Recommend

  • guest

    What about millions of East Pakistanis missing in 1971 genocide? Were they children of lesser God?Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    My replies to you are being censored and you want us Indians to write about the other side of the story.
    The above comment I did mention even you meant for all Kashmiris, by commenting you are legitimising this one-sided article. But, that line was removed for some inexplicable reason.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    I can’t even pray for the people- whether Hindu or Muslim? I, sitting here, am not capable of anything else. Recommend

  • نائلہ

    So I can’t pray for punjabis or Sindhis because there’s nothing bad going on there right? Recommend

  • L.

    And you did not comment?Recommend

  • sylmarkhan

    kashmir is disputed that is why kashmir freedom is in doomsday!Recommend

  • sylmarkhan

    Did india asked kashmiris before occupation. What is the solution for kashmir> to continue occupation. they will have choice to stay or lea ve. your so many 565 states merged with india. you are asking this when hindu raja only muslim state he did not merged with pakistan.
    What about hari singh’s fate. What about all 565 states fate they included muslims as well. but you still merged with india. did you ask for opinion.
    What about taking two tehsils in punjab with muslim majority. british already given to pakistan.
    kashmiris live horrible life yet you think about hindus sikhs. no wonder you are not living in reality but illusion.
    you witnessed pakistan and india independence. yet you are little sheep asking questions.Recommend

  • sylmarkhan

    now forget all about it. everyone payes for their sin. Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    Pakistan was born for the Muslims of India. If anyone didn’t want to live in India they had the option of going to Pakistan. This was the deal of partition wasn’t it.

    If British made a mistake go ask them. We got what we wanted.
    Since, Pakistan was divided out of India and India still retained majority Muslims it had all rights to take over any territory it wanted.

    For 50% Muslims, you need 50% of India? How is that fair? There are still 150 million Muslims in India.

    What about that? If you are so concerned about Muslims of Kashmir then you can invite them.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    The difference between my comment and yours is that I am trying to fight bias and you are supporting it by not confronting it. You are legitimizing this lie.
    I thought you didn’t discriminate, but its alright if others did?
    This is a biased article. Any article which does not present the whole picture and uses the word Kashmiris, when clearly there are thousands and thousands of Kashmiris who support and thank Indian forces, isn’t it being duplicitious?
    BJP won Jammu and Ladakh seats in the recent Parliamentary elections. There are never protests against the Indian state in Jammu and Ladakh. Are they not part of J&K?Recommend

  • Gp65

    Sadly, under article 370, Jammu and Kashmir have a separate constitution and a separate flag. So while I agree with the spirit of what you say, they are ot under Indian constitution.Recommend

  • samm

    Can you give me the source where it says that people in kashmir thank Indian forcea?Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    Oh, that’s easy. Indian army saved more than 50,000 people during the recent floods.

    http://www.indiatimes.com/news/more-from-india/18-heartwarming-photos-of-the-indian-army-rescuing-flood-affected-people-in-jammu-and-kashmir-172675.html

    And remember Pandits, Sikhs, Buddhists too are part of j&k. Why on earth would they side with separatists.

    Indian army page has a fb page for the relief efforts and it has put up a list of those rescued so that it’ll be easy for their relatives to find them. You should go and check out the comments thanking them for saving their uncle, niece, brother..

    I’m sorry ur efforts to gain one up over has failed miserably. May be next time.Recommend

  • L.

    Oh yeh so I can’t even comment without your highness’ permission? Anoop I do not know a thing about what’s going on in Kashmir, so I am not gonna support or confront it. And how does me praying for people I know are in danger mean I am legitimising whatever the author said?! Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    You not having no knowledge is not a good enough excuse for the act of supporting bigotry(even unknowingly).
    You in a tiny way liegitimized this blog, in your own little way pushed the minorities in Kashmir a little nearer to the edge.
    Recommend

  • sylmarkhan

    pakistan was made for northwest people. people who did not want to live with india immigrated.

    Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    Oh conveniently changing directions now!! My friend, Bangladesh was also equal, if not bigger part of Pakistan. It contained more than 60% of Pakistan’s population. It was no where near the North West. :)

    I’ve read quite a few History books and we all know the original Pakistan – which included Bangladesh – was no where near North West. You are just making all this up.

    Anyway, if you care about Muslims of Kashmir, Pakistan was created for the Muslims of India wasn’t it. Kashmir is certainly more close to North West than Bangladesh.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    The height of hypocrisy! What happens when you comment on my religion which you know NOTHING about?

    And I can support whatever I want, thanks very much. You, on the other hand, are free to make ridiculous judgements on my non-existing opinion on this topic.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    I certainly know how many Islamic countries around the world are free and democratic.
    Am I wrong in any of this?
    You on the other hand, am sure, never even knew Jammu is a Hindu majority region and Ladakh is a Buddhist majority region. You still commented, didn’t you!Recommend

  • نائلہ

    I won’t comment on any Kashmir related issue if you promise to never comment on any Islam related one. Deal?

    Of course you won’t! Cos pointing fingers is what hypocrites do best. I shall comment wherever I want Anoop, and you can too; frankly, stop telling me what to do. Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    I know more about Kashmir than you. I also know more about Islamic extremism than you. I know the gory details of Islamic fanatism, that I’ve tried sharing with you.

    I have every right to comment on thing I know. I’ve never quoted ur scriptures. I have only compared religions and the behavioral patters of its followers.

    I can’t stop you from commenting but I’ll too remind you of ur duplicity in supporting, even inadvertently, islamism in Kashmir but opposing it in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Prashant

    Selective truth is worse than a lie, complete dismissal of a communities sufferings while highlighting ones own sorry state is a form of hatred too.

    “Stop complaining and change things yourself.”

    Yes the Pundits will and not because they are Hindus as you say but it is because they believe in the idea of India despite being at the receiving end for as long as they have.Recommend

  • L.

    I know about Islam more than you; I know the truth of Islam which I have tried sharing with you. What you have, is a mere shell- that too broken-of the truth. I read this quote somewhere: “The deaf have never heard the beauty of the azaan and the blind cannot see the words of the Quran. Say alhamdolillah, for you are blessed”. Makes me feel for people like yourself.

    I also have every right to comment; for I thankfully live in a free country. Even if I didn’t, I am not one to leave my human rights unused.

    You think you have ‘reminded’ me? Good. Now there should be no need again, correct? Next time read my comments when I say ‘I am with whatever is good for the people’. Toodles. Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    If you really knew well then you would give a satisfactory answer to why so many are turning towards extremism(I’ve already shot down your poverty and lack of education theories). Not just that, the behavioral patterns of these people and groups are strikingly similar!

    Do you dispute any of these?
    I don’t think people who believe in fiction can really bring me down. And, treating this as absolute fact and sticking up for it is even funnier!
    You have every right to comment, but I too retain the right to call on your duplicity. You say you are for the truth, but when I point out the absurdity , you refuse to believe. You go to the extent of questioning time tested Scientific theories. AND YOU ARE A MEDICAL STUDENT!
    You say you are a Humanitarian, when I point out the plight of Kashmiri Pandits on a piece which blatantly ignores their point of view, you say you have a right to comment .
    How on Earth can you oppose Taliban in Pakistan, but support them in Kashmir?Recommend

  • L.

    Granted, yes i dont know everything, but what i know is what is in the books. When we are not even TAUGHT anything to do with extremism, why in the world would i go around testing the “behavioural patterns” of those ppl? Do you even know my age? Yeh right i have had time to do all that in my 19 years of existence :L

    You think I believe in fiction, vice versa! Tell me something new. My dupicity? No, it’s me putting humanity above the differences in faith- exactly what I was taught while the terrorists were being taught extremism. How about YOU try and study that? Try and find out for yourself the differences in the types of Muslims. If you want to find out so bad, why don’t you put in the hard yards and get your answer? And I bet, you don’t even remember why I commented my initial comment; you are just keen to drag this on. Don’t know about the terrorists, but thanks , I have obtained huge data on the behaviours of Islamaphobes. Well, mainly how to get under their skin :)

    I am by far NOT the first ‘scientist’ to question scientific theories themselves, so get over it. And i am a medical science student, not medicine one. I have been thinking of transferring into another degree though, how does physiology sound? Or psycology? Need an outside opinion on this. You see, I don’t see myself stuck in a lab; I want a “people” job.

    Never used the word humanitarian, so don’t bother attaching it to me; quote me whenever you want though. And for the last time, I shall comment wherever I like. And go on, yeh, assume all you like of what I support and what I don’t. Don’t know about you, but as an Ahmadi, I have been taught nothing but love.

    ET please post. Idk what i have said here that will offend anyone; worse comments are passed daily.Recommend

  • L.

    No suggestion? Nice. Ah well, I’d rather be the one who smiled than the one who never smiled back. Good day. Recommend

  • jazzman

    i saw a similar blog regarding balochistan. sadly that blog was more truthful and honest unlike this propaganda blog. free balochistan.Recommend