Is having ‘brown’ skin, in Australia, a crime?

Published: August 16, 2014
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The colour brown is not tantamount to being intellectually inferior, vicious, manipulative, dishonest, uneducated, ill-mannered and dirty.

Ali, 26, was lying unconscious on the concrete footpath outside a busy train station on King’s Street, Sydney. His mouth was bleeding profusely and his eyes were bruised and swollen, while his friends made frantic phone calls to the police and emergency services.

Within 10 minutes, the police and paramedics were at the scene, applying first aid. As he regained consciousness and looked around, he realised that his attacker had fled the scene and he was surrounded by the emergency staff.

Before this incident happened that day, Ali was partying with friends on a Friday night on King’s Street – the party hub of Sydney. A young Caucasian male approached him and asked for a cigarette, to which he refused. Five minutes later, one of Ali’s friends asked for a cigarette and Ali handed him the pack he had in his pocket. This infuriated the Caucasian youngster and he and his friends approached Ali again, in the hopes of teaching him a lesson.

In order to avoid any nasty confrontations, Ali and his friends decided to leave the area and they began walking towards the train station to head back home. Just as they were about to reach it, the Caucasian men gathered around them. The youngster came closer to Ali, ridiculed his Asian skin colour, punched him hard on his face thrice, pushed him against the footpath and ran away when Ali became unconscious.

Ali is one of the 504,544 international students enrolled in an Australian institution for higher education. Three months ago, he came to Australia in search of greener pastures and a promising career as an accountant. For him, Australia was a land of pure opportunity where equality of opportunity prevailed and anyone with an Australian degree was guaranteed a thriving career. Like millions of fellow Pakistanis, he also believed he was absolutely safe on the streets in Sydney on a busy weekend night. But his image of a crime free, safe and multicultural Australia was shattered the very second he was attacked because of his skin colour. Even after four months since the incident, Ali’s case is still buried under hundreds of other files awaiting action at the Racism Tribunal.

Millions of Pakistanis are under the impression that developed countries hold big opportunities for everyone who migrates there and once you enter the country, you are guaranteed a secure future. This, unfortunately, is a myth. Immigration also comes with a price tag. It is usually followed by years of struggle couple with tolerance of abusive, and sometimes overtly racist, behaviour.

Over the years, racism has taken many forms in developed countries that promise to be open to all cultures and claim to be supporters of multiculturalism. In some scenarios, racist comments are overtly directed at you, while in other cases such as workplace and more formal settings, it is covertly expressed. At some stage in their life, every immigrant experiences an open or more subtle form of racism.

I have very vivid memories of my first few days at my new job after I had newly migrated to Australia with my husband. I was surprised when my colleagues told me there was corridor gossip going around about my not-so-Australian accent and people wondered where I got it from. I was further informed that my boss thought he found it hard to understand me because of my thick accent and they were reluctant to hire more people from the same background because of the language issue. Yet they claim to be an equal opportunity employer and support cultural diversity.

Over the next few years, I encountered a plethora of questions and statements about Pakistan.

“Do you have internet in Pakistan? We don’t think you do.”

“Do you have to wear a burqa all the time?”

“Can you wear jeans in Pakistan?”

“How did you manage to get education?”

“You guys are forced to marry your husbands, aren’t you?”

“You can’t get any more brown. If you go out in the sun, you can only turn into an aboriginal now.”

The harder you try to demystify their mistaken beliefs about your culture, burqa and other issues, the more they judge your customs. While wearing a burqa or hijab is more of a personal choice than an obligation, as I would explain, they found it hard to believe. Also, they found shocked at knowing that in urban areas of Pakistan, middle class families would invest as much in the education of their daughters as their sons. In addition, they never believed me when I told them the decision to marry my husband was taken by me after I got to know him. Such stereotypes, I believe, are a cause of this racist behaviour towards immigrants.

While the governments are trying to open up to new cultures and assimilate them, they still need to educate their citizens about other cultures so that they shed their myopic perspective on people from other cultures and accept them as valuable members of their society. On a micro level, people in the developed world also need to educate themselves about various elements of alien cultures in order to leave stereotypes created by television and internet images behind.

For example, wearing a burqa does not symbolise female oppression. Furthermore, the colour brown is not tantamount to being intellectually inferior, vicious, manipulative, dishonest, uneducated, ill-mannered and dirty. In order to be truly multicultural, the developed world has to shed its ‘us versus them’ mindset and see immigrants as equal to its citizens, regardless of skin colour, accent and physical features.

Anusha Omair Chaudry

Anusha Omair Chaudry

She holds a BSc (Hons) in Social Sciences from Lahore University of Management Sciences and is a freelance journalist and amateur documentary maker based in Australia.

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Chai Roti

    Is having dark skin in Pakistan a crime?Recommend

  • Ahmad

    Twenty years ago I would have agreed with you. But I have to say honestly we have contributed to this image. There is an unfortunate reality behind these stereotypes. You only have to read the ET to see the truth. Why do brown skinned people have this reputation and not yellow skinned. Nobody thinks Chinese are intellectually inferior. Look at Terrance Tao the Chinese-Australian mathematician. Where are the Pakistani whiz-kids. Where are the Pakistani made cars. The Pakistani made cell phones. The Pakistani made microprocessors.Recommend

  • Be a global citizen

    ‘Wearing burqa doesn’t symbolize female oppression’ …some may disagree with you.
    ‘ Govt.s need to educate citizens about other cultures’- you mean the Australian Govt. should educate Australians about Pakistani culture,Bangladeshi culture,Somalian culture etc. ? I doubt if any govt. will set up classes for citizens & teach them the culture of the 200 odd countries in the world.
    If your boss found your English,hard to understand you-please don’t take it as racism…it just means,that you need to improve your English a bit..enunciate. You should also adjust to your new country,instead of expecting them to adjust to you alone.Recommend

  • BLa blah

    Australians are known to be one of the most racist people on this planet.Recommend

  • Ahmed

    SECULARISM FTW!!!!Recommend

  • Not so racist

    @ Author
    Sterotypes don’t come out of thin air…they are based on the observation of the behaviour of many people (of a similar group )
    Recognize the reality behind that.
    Don’t be in a hurry to label everything as ‘racist’.Recommend

  • Ajay Gupta

    I Remember what goes around, comes around. As u sow, sow u reap. crying foul at others behaviour is a little to rich for the world to handle…it is not called the international migraine without reason. However, the above incident is undoubtedly sad & deserves to b condemned.Recommend

  • Sham

    I’m sorry but i do not agree with this. I came to London 5 years ago and i was told by a lot of my friends about the racism that exists in the society. To date, i have never experienced it and have come to the conclusion that when you immigrate to the West, subconsciously you are tuned by your own people that you will face racist acts from the white men and women.It’s only when you think racism exists in the society you live in that you start to take every negative thing that happens around you and label it as racism. There is no racism if you think there is no racism. You change your mindset and everything will be fine. With regards to the incident with Ali, he was partying in the party hub in Sydney and that too on a Friday night. I will not go any further than this, but there are always two sides of a story. Let us also hear the Caucasian story first, what did Ali say to him that prompted a reaction as severe as this ? No one knows. Till then, let’s keep on partying all night in Sydney and try to remain in our senses.Recommend

  • Chai Roti

    Tell that to the brown Indian who just won a fields medal for math. As for Pakistanis have you talked to the people here? Every last one of them is as sharp as they come. Problem being they use their intelligence to scam one another.Recommend

  • Sami

    I think the article is exaggerated. You cannot single out one event and then stereotype any society at all. For example we all know that in Gujranwala one young girl who was only 7 years old have been burnt alive by our mobs some days ago. So can we generalize that every Pakistani Muslim can even resort to burning non Muslim Child based on religious belief?.
    Kindly dont stereotype any society at all. One isolated event dont define any society. Today you are singling out their hoodlums and tomorrow they will talk about yours. You have to agree on this fact that Australia is a developed nation for a reason and we are developing for a reason. Pakistanis complain a lot in Western Societies but why we dont want to appreciate the opportunities we are getting in the West that we can never even imagine in our country, ?
    Also as a Pakistani we have to agree that we have ills in our society. Prejudice and discrimination is more prevalent in Pakistan than in any other place of the world.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    1. “Like millions of fellow Pakistanis”- Australia has fewer than 50000 Pakistanis living here
    2. No one in their right mind goes anywhere near kings cross at night- ie it’s your choice to take the risk
    3. A drunk “Caucasian”- as you have repeated many times, Is no more dangerous than a drunk Asian guy
    4. NO ONE is safe on busy weekend nights, there is a punch-on every other weekend which makes news; and victims are not there because of the colour of their skin
    5. Too many issues being discussed in one blogRecommend

  • Ahmed

    Secularism being free from defects is just an illusion.Recommend

  • Amir

    I believe we are more raciest then the western people are. This is an isolated cased, yet our caste, religion, provincial background, are daily ridiculed by us. I have lived in US ad UK. And in both countries yes there were curiosity, mainly due to our antics and always in the news, but NEVER i was racially abused because of my skin.Recommend

  • http://www.cidpusa.org/ Imran Khan

    Its our responsibility to educate them, to learn how they speak and stay away from late night parties. Be safe ……..Recommend

  • A R Durrani

    Elite facing hardship first time in life. Pakistanis are openly discriminated . Pathan joke anyone?Recommend

  • Short-circuit

    cultural mis-conceptions aside,even we do have ours regarding westerners, racial violence is a serious crime and should be dealt effectively.Recommend

  • Faulitics

    Thats not fair. You are forgetting pakistans water powered perpetual machine car which was even promoted by top scientist AQ Khan.Recommend

  • Ali

    There are black sheep everywhere and Australia is no different. I have been living in Sydney for last 10 years and what i have learned is that if you are an introvert and sensitive person you will be judged more and questioned a lot but if you are very confident and expressive person they will not bother you. More you bow to them more they will ridicule you and if you are cocky they will show you respect. It works for all western cultures. There was a case recently where a white Australian teenager girl was bullied so much at her work that she committed a suicide so it is not about racism all the time.Recommend

  • Zara Malik

    I don’t know where you are living but I have not experienced any racism in Australia, nor do I know anyone who has, Australia is full of immigrants why would they pick on one particular kind? I think most Pakistanis are themselves too conscious and insecure with the fact that they are different and it just makes them feel uncomfortable and then they make people around them uncomfortable too, no one has ever dared to ask me questions like these because I walk with my head held high, I suggest you and your husband do the same! Oh and can you seriously blame people for asking such questions? Look at the condition our country is in, no one in his right mind would consider it a country where women get educated and wear jeans! They are not to blame, we are! Hate this victim metalityRecommend

  • http://www.thetrueperspective.com/ Hamza

    Three geographical regions that Pakistanis (and all south Asian people for that matter) should avoid like the plague: 1) the Middle East (the Arabs think we’re ants that they can step on whenever they want), 2) Greece (I have yet to see a country where tourists and workers are beaten, thrown in jail, and then deported just for being brown, other than Greece of course) and 3) Australia (a country who’s Prime Minister goes on TV and says “there were no people in Australia before the British came” — a country that can’t even treat it’s indigenous population right cannot be expected to tolerate a brown skinned population).Recommend

  • Shah

    Chinese are bad drivers though :)Recommend

  • Khan

    Why dostudents “party” while they are there to study? Buray kaam ka bura nateejaRecommend

  • Adpran

    “……and see immigrants as equal to its citizens,”

    Immigrants?. The difference between Australian White and Australian Pakistani is the one migrated to Australia earlier, another migrated later.Recommend

  • Prashant

    Australians if not all, some for sure exhibit racist behaviour. The question is are some of us not racists for the following:

    Why do we have fairness creams being advertised?

    Why does a man want a bride who must be fair?

    Why do we ogle at a fair skinned woman or a black skin man/woman?

    What is our opinion of the people from South East Asia/China/Japan and the slurs we use them?

    Nice legs, we might get lucky, lets approach her. I have heard this many times.

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  • Prashant

    A Pakistani developed a motor which runs on water. To with the laws of thermodynamics.Recommend

  • Maj Hyder

    I have worked in Australian High Commission Islamabad as Security Manager and after serving for two years have to resign due to being pointed by my superior for being Muslim and Pakistani, who never leaves any chance to degrade our religious, social or economic issues. To be honest Australians are the worst to work or deal with; most of them are full of inferiority complex due to being from a history less back grounds. I fully agree with Anusha as Aussies try to poss being diverse and equality owing where as they are totally bias and ruthless toward nations like us. In totality they are the nation of junk of stupids collected together from all criminals of world sent to Australia to get rid of them…now they are proving it every dayRecommend

  • ARA

    While Canada is not so bad in terms of openly expressed racism, there are hidden layers of stereotypes that one can experience on daily basis. Flying between Vancouver and Calgary, my ‘Randomly Picked up for Detailed Screening’ percentage is 33% after frequent flying over a period of 1 year. Every single time I was selected without triggering the screening alarm at the airport. Racism and stereotypes will always exist in this world and as as expat Pakistanis, we should take it in our strides. Acts of Pakistanis as a nation hasn’t helped this cause either.Recommend

  • Parvez

    Why did he refuse to give the guy a cigarette ?
    You appear to say that the host country should learn to accept your ways………and I think it should be the other way around…….after all its their country.Recommend

  • Xman

    Well atleast you don’t get killed by a stray bullet, where you could be dead for just going to work. However, based on my experience, many nationalities, including Pakistanis get ridiculed because of their own superiority complex, and poor adaption skills. People who wear their “honour” on their sleeves will be marginalised regardless of their skin colour. Every country has their stereo types (including OZs) but you would never find them making a fuss out in the open forums, as much as fresh off boat desis do. My suggestion, relax, take it with a grain of salt, and try to understand the other culture where you plan to assimilate first before expecting others to conform to your perception of the “absolute truth”Recommend

  • Selfhatingpak

    Uzzy Khawaja, pro cricketer for Aus. Racism against Chinese is prevalent, as is massive racism towards Aboriginal peoples.Recommend

  • Kamran

    I am living in Australia for past 6 years, and i totally disagree according to all the this and as matter of fact i work on Market Street which is main centre of Sydney city, majority of people very friendly and helpful i got lots of Caucasian Mate’s and they are very very nice to me. Please don’t make an issue out of nothing, and as far it conceren about fights in Clubs over the weekend its normal practice and trust me its not about the skin colour.

    I think Australia is a great country and a gives you opportunity to live your life the way you want.Recommend

  • Gullu

    You said because the said guy refused a ciggie to the white boy, the white boy was infuriated, disn’t you? Then how come it becomes a ‘race’ related issue? . Moreover Australians know how the rich treats their domestic helps probabaly. Recommend

  • Karachiwala

    Gentle reminder, being dark skin in Pakistan was a huge crime which led to separation of Bangladesh. If not the main reason, it was certainly quite a huge catalyst. We never treated the as equals. And you should know well how mohajirs especially dark skinned ones are treated in our country. Don’t want to speak about minorities. But dear stop making us Pakistanis look like hypocrite. We have too many skeletons in our closet to even think of accusing a nation or race where such incidents are factually quite rare.Recommend

  • Hunza wala

    that is strange. Very strange.
    Considering the caste system in Hindustan. All the hues of
    brown to black skin colors….look at yourself in the mirror.Recommend

  • someone

    So I wonder if after so much humiliation, is author ready to leave Australia? I bet not.The comfortable life is more precious than self dignity.Recommend

  • Hasan

    Unfortunately, I totally disagree to the writer. I am living in Sydney for 8 years and have worked with lower, middle, top and elite class white people. In blue and white collar jobs and I cannot think of a single incident.

    This story narrated is a pure drama it has nothing to do with the skin color and nationality

    On top of that, we people have no right to complain against discrimination when we discriminate Punjabi with Sindhi with Balochi with Pathan with Mohajir with Siraiki with Butt with Jaat with Chaudry with Sheikh and the list goes on.

    I would say, we should stop wearing biased glasses and see the world through them instead we should wear glasses of justice and then first see our self in the mirror then the whole worldRecommend

  • Mo

    I second your opinion.Recommend

  • Ernest Dempsey

    Anyone who feels “absolutely safe” on the streets in Sydney or anywhere else on any night must be a naive or outright stupid person. Crime is everywhere, especially in big cities after dark. I have so many American friends here that America is more of a home to me than my native Pakistan, still I would not consider myself safe out on a street in the night (and most Americans won’t either) in any of the cities here, just like I won’t feel safe in Peshawar or my hometown. From the story, it appears that the men who were pissed by his refusal would do it to anybody regardless of their color. They were angry and wanted to hurt him – which is bad. I hope he gets justice.Recommend

  • Parvez

    Awoooo!! ….my comment was disallowed. Talk about discrimination……ha ! ha !Recommend

  • raw is war

    @ Anusha Omair Chaudry

    Might sound illogical, but should people from sub-continent show that they are made of different stuff? Why did he refused to give him the cigarette? Does it cost fortune? There is a saying in Hindu religion. Do good to your enemies – and they might become your friends.Recommend

  • mohd abbas

    Same as being minority a crime ?Recommend

  • gp65

    News about racist attacks on Indian students in Australia were very much in the news a couple of years back, so if Ali was unaware that such things happen, he was clearly ignorant.

    Of course such attacks should not happen. No reasonable person would justify them but as you yourself noted, emergency services arrived in 10 minutes. Further despite the incident Ali is still in Australia is he not? Besides better economic opportunity, Australia is much safer for him than Pakistan is it not?

    Now you ask yourself the question – is it a crime to be a non-Muslim in Pakistan?Recommend

  • stevenson

    I thought it was only the darker skinned Indians in Australia getting beaten? Has it also spread to hating anyone with brown skin too? I know that Australians are sick of the illegal Somali, Afghani , Iranian and Arab asylum seekers who keep arriving by boat. I guess there is a limit to how many coloured people the Australians want to see.Recommend

  • Manahil

    Not technically. But since Pakistan belongs to the Third World, certain terrible beliefs are rampant iThis, however, does not excuse these particular Australians of their racism. Recommend

  • unbelievable

    Moral of the story .. if you turn down someone who wants to bum a smoke .. don’t turn around and give one to the next guy. Race may have less to do with the attack than author thinks.Recommend

  • Sam

    I dont blame the Australians for putting forwarding such questions to you.. I was bombared with exactly the same questions, except the ones related to complexion, when I went to Karachi for my internship a few years back..Recommend

  • Parvez

    Another try : Why did he refuse to give the guy a cigarette ?Recommend

  • Uhh ..

    I thought Latino doctors were the second highest in number,after Indian physicians in the United States ..Recommend

  • Bless you !

    Wonderful clarity .Recommend

  • نائلہ

    Well you haven’t talked to enough Pakistanis then. If I was to judge Indians on the comments on ET or You tube, they would have no respect in my eyes; but I don’t hold such narrow minded views. Recommend

  • نائلہ

    It’s pretty embarrassing, but the grass is always greener on the other side.
    Why is the plastic surgery market booming in South Korea? Koreans want bigger eyes.
    Australians tan themselves in the sun dispute the huge risk of melanoma (since we have the hole in the ozone layer above us). They believe that a tan makes them look more “exotic”
    African Americans get serious skin side effects for regularly chemically straightening or weaving their hair.
    Only lately have Disney introduced “dark” princesses. Same with OUR perception of “beauty”. “You won’t get a proposal if you are dark”, “chaand jaisi bahu” and let’s not forget the ridiculous fair and lovely ads.

    Australia is a country where things come pretty late lol. There are things that happen here which the world declared racist 10 years ago. There are ads running these days trying to get the “White Australians” to not judge all of the indigenous population on their stereotypes. Educated Australians- most of them have nothing against other races. Recommend

  • نائلہ

    Actually this was not a racial attack; the latest trend in this country is “one punch deaths”- which have resulted in strict laws like “minimum 10 years imprisonment” being implemented on the culprit who was involved in or caused the death of another by a single punch or even if the victim’s head hits the ground. Ali was at the wrong place at the wrong time.

    The problem? Alcohol- A liquid which does not discriminate. Recommend

  • Abyss

    King’s Street in Sydney is one of the worst places to be for any sane person. I was in Sydney for a few weeks last year and invariably, heard news of a brawl every now and then in that area. Btw, the brawls were not limited to any specific skin colored people, it happened with whites too. The reason why it’s quite famous is because of the strip clubs and such places. People should be a bit more aware of their surroundings since there are no-go zones in pretty much all the big cities of the world.Recommend

  • Ahmad

    I think the common stereotype is that yellow race is more intelligent than the brown race. It is for us to change the stereotype whether that is Pakistani or IndianRecommend

  • Proud Australian Pakistani

    This is a big load of b.s. I’ve never faced this in Australia. Also, who told Ali to refuse cigarettes? The culture here warrants people ask each other for ciggie’s. And clearly if he was out middle of the night partying, these things do happen – not only to Pakistani’s but to Australians themselves. You seem very disgruntled. Australia is a land of opportunity indeed.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    “Yellow Race”- i presume you mean East Asian? Well they are extremely hard working people and thats why they are put in this “intelligent” bracket.Recommend

  • SyedSyd

    Untrue! I am a browned skin Pakistani and I teach at University of Sydney. Have been here for over 3 years now and not once asked the kinda questions you’ve mentioned!
    And by the way, it’s not “King’s street”, it’s “King Street”, and I live there!!!Recommend

  • Prashant

    “….it’s just that they don’t know how to or don’t want to explain the madness going on in their home country to foreigners”

    The world does not need this explained, they already know what it is, sometimes better than the Pakistanis, you need to curb it once and for all.Recommend

  • Prashant

    “The problem? Alcohol- A liquid which does not discriminate.”

    That makes it secular/ liberal. Is not it?Recommend

  • Prashant

    “There is a saying in Hindu religion. Do good to your enemies – and they might become your friends.”

    When our politicians do the same, we crib and complain.

    “Why did he refused to give him the cigarette?”

    Well, he might have been a miser. Is that a good enough reason to get beaten up?Recommend

  • Prashant

    You have been allowed to accuse them of discrimination though.Recommend

  • Golnath Agarwal

    Oh? You walk on water?Recommend

  • Riz

    I have a Dark skin, from Pakistan where I have been Bullied, ridiculed at by almost every member of my Family and friends and in school. Even at school annual functions as a part of their scripts I was discriminated. And BY GOD in my last 8 years in Australia have never ever been said anything about my color or any such thing. So rather than writing a post about one incident have a look at how it works in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Moiz Omar

    I don’t think it is good to generalize. I have lived in these type of countries, and know people their are generally tolerating and welcoming. This is a rare incident.Recommend

  • Sane

    Very logical and correct comment.Recommend

  • Indian

    That’s unfair,bro …scamsters live in every country..it’s not country specific.
    If you met unpleasant Pakistanis somewhere – you need to remember that they don’t represent all the people of their nation.
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  • Indian

    They seem to have a different work ethic …maybe that’s why they’re ahead of South Asians currently. We can learn from them.Recommend

  • Uhh ..

    Agreed.Recommend

  • Ehmad Razi

    No matter where you live ..there is always room for the odds!!Recommend

  • Oats

    So if dark skinned Muhajirs and dark skinned Bengalis are treated badly by lighter skinned native Pakistanis ( Pashtuns, Kashmiris, Baluchis and Punjabis) that justifies the ill treatment of coloured races in Australia? Two wrongs don’t make a right. Australia is known to be anti refugee and the large number of Tamil, Iranian, Iraqi and Afghan asylum seekers who wash up in boats on their shores no doubt has turned them against illegal immigrants.Recommend

  • sterry

    I remember growing up and hearing a White Australian tell me that he doesn’t want Australia to become another Asian country. The European people who took over the land think only they have a right to live on the soil of the aborigines.Recommend

  • Jayman

    I studied and worked in Australia for nearly 7 years before returning since opportunities at home were better in the field of IT. I had never faced blatant racist behaviour during my stay there. But there was one occasion when I was mugged. But that was a case of me being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I guess refusing a cigarette was not a very nice thing to do. Sorry.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    Like?

    Let me guess we Indians question Islam and Pakistan?

    Hate to break it to you that’s the rule nowadays around the world.Recommend

  • Ashley

    what a joke. australia is probably the most diverse country in the world – Besides, the questions you were asked all contain a glimmer of truth (e.g. arranged marriage) which is actually a significant problem among Pakistani communities in places like the UK.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    Hating and questioning are two different things. I have actually encouraged you to question Islam- so I will answer. And since when do you “question” Pakistan? You outright make ridiculous accusations.

    There is a freedom of speech, but there is no freedom of hatred.Recommend

  • JayMankind

    Same here in India. But mostly at school level.Recommend

  • JayMankind

    Can’t agree more. It is downright mean to refuse a smoke.Recommend

  • JayMankind

    Don’t you think the sample size is small to tar and feather a nation? After all, they were magnanimous enough to allow immigrants in. Will Saudi Arabia do the same?Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    Please tell me what accusations you think are unjustified and why. If you are Right, I’ll correct myself.
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  • نائلہ

    The “real Pakistan” crap is one invalid accusation.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    Then tell me which country bombs it’s own citizens? And, if South Punjab will be carpet bombed similarly, which is where the Punjabi Taliban lives. Why in Pakistani history only FATA and Balochis have been bombed?

    68 long years but only 2 out 4 provinces are ever bombed. Strange don’t you think?

    Please think rationally, without emotion. You have not provided cogent arguments till now, just repeated how wrong I am without stating reason.
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  • نائلہ

    Rationally:
    – Where is the higher population of taliban?
    – Where are the “eggs” of taliban just waiting to be hatched? ie. where does the taliban breed?
    – What is the other option at this point of time to eradicate terrorism from this country?
    Answer these questions. You have failed to do so whenever I have asked.

    Carpet bombing might not be the best option, but its what they are choosing to do. You are thinking that Pakistan Army is purposely attacking the “citizens”. NO- unless you count the taliban as citizens of Pakistan.Recommend

  • tungi

    yup!!i second u on that!! whiter pakistanis of which there are many, are liked more in the societyRecommend

  • nishantsirohi123

    are all christians called “choora”Recommend

  • nishantsirohi123

    no latino is referred to mexicans and south americansRecommend

  • nishantsirohi123

    wearing burqa does not symbolise female oppression, but enforcing burqa indeed doesRecommend

  • nishantsirohi123

    history less background, oh yes since pakistani history dates back to muhammad bin qasimRecommend