Slapping sedition charges? Must have been BJP’s idea!

Published: March 11, 2014
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I love Pakistan as much as I love India and as an Indian I would like to say 'Pakistan Zindabad'.

Doting on Pakistan is apparently a heinous crime in India. Why else would the Uttar Pradesh government slap sedition charges on 67 Kashmiri students in Meerut for cheering the Pakistani cricket team and chanting innocuous slogans like Pakistan Zindabad?

When asked by a young student to share his views on the issue in Barkha Dutt’s show Political Roots, senior Bhartiya Janta Party (BJP) leader, Chandan Mitra exclaimed,

“Anybody who lives in India, breathes the air of this country and raises a slogan like Pakistan Zindabad, should be legally persecuted and charged with sedition.”

Ha! Truly speaking one could not expect anything better from the Hindu nationalist party whose prime ministerial candidate is Narendra Modi, the man who threatened to wipe Pakistan off the world map in 2002, while addressing a public rally in Gujrat,

“Miyan Musharraf eik Hindu attankwad nahi karta hai. Par Miyan Musharraf, kaan khol kar sun lo, jis din Hindu attankwad aayega na, us din duniya ke nakshe se Pakistan ka namon nishan mit jayega.”

(Miyan Musharraf, a Hindu doesn’t believe in terrorism. But Miyan Musharraf, listen to me carefully, the day Hindu terrorism is born, Pakistan will be wiped off the world map.)

If this is not fascism, what is? This is certainly not nationalism or patriotism. What else can be expected from the followers of this man who is capable of making such an outlandish and dangerous statement?

At this juncture, I, for one, would humbly entreat the people of India, especially Hindu nationalists, to ask themselves a few simple questions and reflect deeply over this issue.

What is Pakistan? Who are these 180 million people residing in this beautiful country? What is their relationship with the people of India? And above all, are the people of Pakistan our enemies?

As a matter of fact it is only by virtue of providence that Pakistan came into being in 1947. Had our ‘great’ leaders shown even a little maturity and vision, there would have been no partition and we would still be one and living together as brothers.

Alas, it was not to be.

The British, along with other western powers and our own reactionary, short-sighted leaders, schemed to divide our people on the lines of religion and thus, sowed the seeds of perpetual hatred and distrust in our hearts.

“Lamhon ne khata ki thi, sadiyon ne saza payi.”

(A mistake of a few seconds has brought punishment for centuries.)

But at the same time I know that the ‘mill cannot grind with water that is past’. The die was cast and Pakistan is a reality. My only endeavour here is to remind the people of India and Pakistan that we are blood brothers and that blood is thicker than water.

Needless to say except for religion, there’s hardly anything that differentiates us. And it is a pity that despite our special relationship, our shared history and culture, the hate-factories have been allowed to flourish unabated on both sides.

Pakistanis are not our enemies; they have never been. Indians and Pakistanis are twin brothers who were separated at birth in 1947.

Don’t brothers fight amongst themselves? But is it right for us to treat each other as enemies? Is this incessant, mindless conflict and poisonous hatred justified?

In my opinion, it is not because Pakistan is not just any other country for us. The people of Pakistan are special because of their special, unbreakable bond with the people of India. No matter how hard one tries, this bond cannot be broken.

Thus, in view of this special relationship, why should anyone be flabbergasted and dismayed to know that there are people on both sides of the border who dote on each other?

Yes, it is a fact that the people of our two beautiful countries are truly, madly, deeply in love with each other. Is it not true that not a single day passes when we don’t think of each other, when we don’t peek through the heavily manned borders to find out what’s happening on the other side?

Above all, is it not true that we are obsessed with each other?

If this is true, then why should loving Pakistan in India be a crime and vice versa? Why should Kashmiris, and secular Indians – and there are millions of them including me – be punished for doting on Pakistan?

Yes, I love you Pakistan. I love you as much I love India since for me there’s no difference whatsoever between these two countries; they are two sides of the same coin. Yes, my heart beats for the people of Pakistan and I wish we could live together as brothers once again. Today, I, as a citizen of India, want to take this opportunity to wish Pakistan and its citizens well for their future and say Pakistan Zindabad.

Will I now be charged with sedition for this?

Truly speaking, I don’t know.

For me though the bigger sin would be to hide and subjugate my feelings for the people of Pakistan. But if loving Pakistan is a crime, I am as guilty as those Kashmiri students.

Nonetheless, the truth is we have been brothers and we will always remain brothers. That day is not far when we shall meet again in the same spirit of friendship that has always bound us together. I know that our relationship is going through turbulent times and is in dire straits but let’s remember that the darkest hour of the night is just before dawn.

Sapan Kapoor

Sapan Kapoor

A history buff and India-based journalist, the author has worked with the Press Trust of India. He blogs at sehar-anawakening.blogspot.in/ and tweets as @dRaconteur.

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • logan

    why dont you write this propaganda piece in an Indian news paper and see? Recommend

  • Queen

    I wish we get to see more such sane voices from across the border… but keeping in view the developments taking place in our neighborhood, it seems unlikely anywhere in future.Recommend

  • Adil

    Stop this Aman ka Tamasha! Our leaders were visionary and thats y we got our own seperate homeland. Otherwise, muslims might have been cleaning washrooms at hindu homes.Recommend

  • Another North Indian

    What a misleading article. This statement was made directly in response to the outlandish claim that Hindu terrorism was as big as Islamic terrorism. And it is true – if Hindu terrorism becomes as big as Islamic terrorism, there will be no Pakistan. Recommend

  • Omer

    Lots of love for you Sapan from a Pakistani. God bless!Recommend

  • pappumohansingh

    Another piece of leftist garbage that we have been so used to these days now in Indian media. Idiot, we don’t wanna hate Pak as well. But when
    we see beheaded soldiers on LOC, when we see our parliament attacked due to Pakis, when we see them spreading mayhem on the streets of Mumbai on 26/11 you have no right to tell us what we should do with those who chose to support Pakistan. As if supporting wasn’t enough, they raised highly inflammatory slogans against India. With them being from Kashmir, and supporting secessionist thoughts they should have been charged with sedition which they rightfully were. You can just take this Paki love in Pakistan and such anti nationals are not at all required in India. Supporting Pak is a different thing which many people do. Raising slogans against India is different. You are mixing up a lot of issues and as expected, conveniently blaming it on the BJP which wasn’t even in power in the state where this happened. It was done by the super secular Namazwadi party. You love Pakistan right? I challenge you to just go there and live for a month and then come and talk to us. Recommend

  • Abhinav Rai

    Look at Sapan Kapoor blaming BJP for it to fuel the hatred and bake chapatis on it for more readership hits on his article. It was Samajwadi party’s government which did it, and SP is a “secular” party.Recommend

  • Sachin

    The fact is Pakistanis hate India much much more than Indians even think about hating anybody. So instead of passing judgement on Indians first put ur house in order which is crumbling under huge debt, bankruptcy, terrorism, fascism, racism, corruption … the list is never endingRecommend

  • Necromancer

    The best Blog I have seen so far on ET……..May your dream come true, and we the people of Subcontinent unite again and become the super power we wereRecommend

  • Parvez

    That was a geat read.
    I do believe that good can only happen if one expresses the wish that it happens…….and you have done that nicely.Recommend

  • Farooq Ahmed

    more power to you Sapan..and the likes…if there is a 2 nation theory, its should divide those who hate for the sake of it and those who dont…
    pakistan zindabad, Jai hind….Recommend

  • Farooq Ahmed

    more power to you Sapan..and the likes…if there is a 2 nation theory, its should divide those who hate for the sake of it and those who dont…
    pakistan zindabad, Jai hind….Recommend

  • BlackJack

    There was a song by Billy Joel which ran ‘Darling I don’t know why I go to extremes…, too high or too low there ain’t no in-betweens…’.Our two-nations :) could choose this to be our theme song – statements are either full of saccharine meaningless mush that chooses to ignore everything going on because the words themselves sound good (let’s call this the Mani Shankar Aiyar camp), or on another end, vitriolic hatred for everything that the other stands for (Orya Maqbool Jan club). If we can learn to ignore each other, we will be much much happier.Recommend

  • BlackJack

    There was a song by Billy Joel which ran ‘Darling I don’t know why I go to extremes…, too high or too low there ain’t no in-betweens…’.Our two-nations :) could choose this to be our theme song – statements are either full of saccharine meaningless mush that chooses to ignore everything going on because the words themselves sound good (let’s call this the Mani Shankar Aiyar camp), or on another end, vitriolic hatred for everything that the other stands for (Orya Maqbool Jan club). If we can learn to ignore each other, we will be much much happier.Recommend

  • water bottle

    For those who haven’t read the blog and came straight to coments section, here is my suggestion.

    You would probably enjoy the emotional drivel of Shah Rukh Khan in a Karan Johar movie better than this.

    Wasting three hours of your time on a Bollywood maudlin is better than wasting two minutes of your life on this devoid of any facts or substance.Recommend

  • Faraz Talat

    He’s blaming the culture of Hindu nationalism on BJP, not the incident itself. And I think that’s fair.Recommend

  • Queen

    The same sentiments are felt by us Pakistanis when we see our soldiers being killed in unprovoked firing from India. This is the same
    sentiment which we feel when intelligence information reveals India’s
    involvement in bomb blasts in Pakistan, in initiating separatist movement in
    Balochistan, in providing funds and weapons to the Taliban. Therefore, no one has the right to tell us Pakistanis that we should start loving India. But
    still, there are sane voices on both sides of the border which want both Pakistanand India to leave peacefully as neighbors. Peace can be achieved only whenIndia agrees not to promote militancy in Pakistan and Pakistan agrees not to interfere in India’s internal matters.

    But yes, the issue of Kashmir is different. You have said: “You can just
    take this Paki love in Pakistan and such anti nationals are not at all requiredin India” If it is true that India does not require Kashmiri people and is not willing to address their grievances, then it should end its illegal occupation of Kashmir and should allow the Kashmiris to exercise their right to self determination. India will never do that because it is aware that if UN
    resolution on Kashmir is implemented, then Kashmiris will definitely side with
    Pakistan or will prefer to become an independent state.

    First come and live in Pakistan, understand Pakistan’s local environment ( not the propaganda which is shown on Indian media) and then talk to us about this issue. Have a nice day :)

    ET. Please publish my comment.Recommend

  • Himavan

    We should remind him, that the cowbelt was ruled by Muslims, but it doesnt mean that “All” of India is the cowbelt.Careful boy.Recommend

  • Saira

    Just one question to the people of both sides…why you guys do not speak openly and blame the politicians for their failed politics and just always pointing on one another why thus this minister said something useless to musharraf??? Nonsense…and why does any Pakistani politician blame any Indian politician???…guys don’t you notice yeh sirf do logho ke bhich ki baat hai…do kaumo ke bhich ki nahi…jho insaan akhir seat parr betha hua hai…woh usska maza to leh gha…boaht kam ghandi ja Muhammad ali jinnah milte hai…jho kaum ki khwaishon ko madarnazar rakhe…..baat phir jha kar firkhe aur nationalism parr mukhti hai aise politicians ke liye, jho ke sirf ek propaganda instrument hai on both sides… baat jah thak ke hamesha insaaniyat parr jhakar mukni chahiye…so please…always remember line thorisi bhi idher ki udhar ho jathi to aaj Lahore shahid India main hotha aur Amritsar shahid Pakistan main…yeh tho fazul ki baatein hai…aur waise bhi Hinud Pakistan main bhi aur Muslim in India main bhi…this the lowest base argument to discuss about.Recommend

  • Broken heart

    Pakistanis and love, brotherhood ?
    Go and ask this question to the victims of 26/11… U can get response… I think u don’t watch pakistani TVs.. In pakistan, it’s a fashoin to hate india and their anchors always talk about” BESHARAM HINDUS..”
    they hate us and why shoul we love them?
    You can… I can’t…..
    Recommend

  • Ali

    I wish there were more people like you on both sides of the border. Lots of love from Pakistan :)Recommend

  • Broken heart

    Pakistanis and love, brotherhood ?
    Go and ask this question to the victims of 26/11… U can get response… I think u don’t watch pakistani TVs.. In pakistan, it’s a fashoin to hate india and their anchors always talk about” BESHARAM HINDUS..”
    they hate us and why shoul we love them?
    You can… I can’t…..
    Recommend

  • Umar

    Sir, Thank you for your kind words towards Pakistan… ! I only disagree with one point where you are against this Great Partition. To support my point, I would like to mention the Partition of Pakistan in 1971. Due to injustice with East Pakistan people, Bangla Desh came into being, similarly I cant imagine how one could do justice in such a big country ( Old Subcontinent ) with every citizen living in it. Pakistan and India right now are unable to give rights to their citizens in such geographical presence, how would one mother country could do justice to all.. But it does not mean at all that you start hating once divided, our enemy is common, our weak political structure is the only reason to this hate on both sides of border, our enemy is busy in selling us weapons to use against each other. Where the money should be spend on poor people in India and Pakistan, it is being spend to increase military capacities. I salute people like you who spread words of Love ! We are all one.. !Recommend

  • Malti Chaturvedi

    plz shift to pakistan…i am assuming u haven’t lost any dear one’s during 26/11 massacre……let me take this opportunity to say that i hate pakistan and can never think of living with its people again……..let me ask have u ever been to pakistan?? what the hell is there to fall in love with??Recommend

  • Salman

    This hatred won’t take you anywhere, there are many pakistani’s who see Indian as friendly country however, given the fact that people like you posting comments of hatred would definetly ignite anger and thus would see you as our enemy.
    Also, please look at the poverty level of your country before pointing anything on Pakistan.Recommend

  • Malaika Harris

    Since the author is a Hindu from India, it’s interesting to see the Hindu nationalists fumbling to come up with new excuses this time, because they can’t reflexively bring up Pakistan’s human rights record in this case. Now they’re playing the “leftist” card, where any criticism of Indian society is deemed “far-left nonsense.” Very interesting – I’m gonna bookmark this page and continue coming, just to see the comments.Recommend

  • Malaika Harris

    Since the author is a Hindu from India, it’s interesting to see the Hindu nationalists fumbling to come up with new excuses this time, because they can’t reflexively bring up Pakistan’s human rights record in this case. Now they’re playing the “leftist” card, where any criticism of Indian society is deemed “far-left nonsense.” Very interesting – I’m gonna bookmark this page and continue coming, just to see the comments.Recommend

  • Asim

    Dear Sachin Bhai,

    “The fact is Pakistanis hate India much much more” Please enlighten me when was the last time Pakistan refused any visas, ended cricketing ties, refused IPL entries, behaved badly with visiting indian sportsmen/singers/actors, Pakistan head of state refused any indian invitation?Recommend

  • Asim

    Dear Sachin Bhai,

    “The fact is Pakistanis hate India much much more” Please enlighten me when was the last time Pakistan refused any visas, ended cricketing ties, refused IPL entries, behaved badly with visiting indian sportsmen/singers/actors, Pakistan head of state refused any indian invitation?Recommend

  • G. Din

    “Will I now be charged with sedition for this?”
    You, in all fairness, ought to be.Recommend

  • vinsin

    It doesn’t matter what you think and feel is right. It matters what majority of Hindus and Muslims feel. And the truth is they always felt like two nation. Read history 89.5 % of Muslims voted for Pakistan. Many Indian Muslims still don’t think that they are part of India. Had Pakistan did well most of them would have moved there. It wasnt possible for Muslims to stay in a secular state. Even now if India tries to become a secular state by implementing uniform civil code, many Muslims will riot and move to Pakistan. For hindus it was not possible to stay under sharia, check the condition of non Muslims in both Pakistan and Bangladesh. You need to study the reasons for Pakistan direct action day and noarkali riots. You are a dreamer and jinha wwas the only one who was speaking truth at time. He is directly responsible for saving lots of life by riots that didn’t take place because of partition. This schizophrenia is created by those Indian Muslims who voted for Pakistan but did move and still dream of making India a Islamic state.Recommend

  • http://www.wpcub.com/ Janmejai Pratap Singh
  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    That would actually be a good start… maybe, the distance might make the hearts grow fonder, or, it might all just wither away.Recommend

  • abhi

    Why did you bring Modi and BJP in this while there was no link.Recommend

  • Kaur

    Author is blaming bjp.the sedition charges were put by congress ally sp.vice chancellor who is also Muslim found it unacceptable. What will happen to him if Namo becomes pm.Recommend

  • Rida

    OMGGGGGGGGG! THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST ARTICLES I HAVE EVER READ. I am from Pakistan and I love India. I had written something like this on my blog too. You rock man. I loved your words and agreed with each and everything you said. Lots of love from Pakistan. :)Recommend

  • BlackJack

    Bigotry and Stupidity are likely bedfellows. There are 150 mn muslims in India. Do you think that they all clean wash rooms? Per capita income of muslims in India is the same as muslims in Pakistan despite the fact that the elite migrated during partition leaving their relatively poor and uneducated brethren behind – and they are the ones who would probably thank your visionary leadership for it today because they can live and worship in peace without wondering if they are going to be blown up the next second.Recommend

  • someone

    Well the blogger really needs to travel to Pakistan and feel the love for himself.Recommend

  • Necromancer

    What a joke………hahahahaha……….mate I am not defending terrorism and I will condemned it till my last breath, but Hindu Terrorism is no way near what Muslims Radicals or capable of…………and the Muslims in India is the most humble form of Muslims you will find in the world so cherish it while you can.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    Indians might dislike, even be disgusted by Pakistan, but not nearly enough to go and kill Pakistanis in Pakistan.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    During the cold war, it was almost a crime to support the soviet Russia. During WW2, Japanese were rounded off and jailed.

    But, no American sailed to Russia on a boat and randomly killed civilians there, like Kasab and his comrades did in Mumbai.

    No Indian too sails to Karachi like many Pakistanis, who are undergoing training in Jihadi training camps in Muzzafarabad, are willing to do.

    So, the level of hatred what Americans felt towards the Soviets or what Indians feel towards Pakistanis is remarkably low key compared to the hatred which prompts many Pakistanis to harm Indians even at the threat to their own lives.Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    “… if Hindu terrorism becomes as big as Islamic terrorism, there will be no Pakistan…”,
    “…but Hindu Terrorism is no way near what Muslims Radicals or capable of…”

    This is amusing, so now we are debating on who would excel in terrorism, seriously?Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    Don’t read too much into the left/right winger theory in the current context Malaika, it’s the election season in India, every party is trying to appease one community or the other.Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    “insaaniyat parr jhakar ‘mukni’ chahiye”… you are a certified Punjabi, I like it.Recommend

  • शिखर

    sapan kapoor gets to right in a pak publication.. never heard of this guy ever in India media..no wonder he writes for pakistan..Indian leftists specializes in anti Indian particularly anti Hindu literature..Recommend

  • BlackJack

    Madam, the far-left is a valid political space and I have no intention of assigning any such nonsense the benefit of a concrete position on the ideological spectrum; I also think that labeling those that YOU disagree with as ‘Hindu nationalists’ without basis betrays a rather naïve view of Indian society. Unless you let go of this Hindu-Muslim prism, you aren’t going to be able to understand us – religion is a very small part of our overall identity, and several Indians on this platform have no belief in any God, Hindu or otherwise. I also think you would have difficulty in defining the term Indian nationalist because of your preconceived bias.Recommend

  • BlackJack

    Dude, there is nothing called ‘the culture of Hindu nationalism’ – pls do explain where culture comes into picture. Don’t forget that you are defending a writer who recently came up with a blog on Savarkar without even spending 10 min researching the guy; he has own little axe to grind, which he does in ignorant and cacophonous bliss. The term Hindu nationalism (ignoring the ambiguity in defining a Hindu for now) probably implies that India is for Hindus and everyone else is an outsider – I don’t think the BJP is saying or has ever said that; they do however have issues with people whose allegiance lies outside the borders of Indian territory, although sedition charges may be a counter-productive way of endearing said population to their country.

    If there is a dominant political culture in India, it is one of vote-bank politics – different castes, religious communities, socio-political movements are treated as the private fief of a couple of outfits or their leadership, thus allowing a stable political existence with zero accountability or results; this needs to change. Of course, as a whole Hindus are too large and diverse as a community with no common principles of belief to be defended or propagated, so Hindu nationalism as a political plank is practically pointless in India – even the Ram temple, one of the BJP’s erstwhile pet subjects, is a non-issue in this election because it just doesn’t sell. If the BJP comes to power this time, it will be primarily through the votes of those Indians who care not two hoots for Hindu nationalism, and not because some mythical Hindu nationalist culture has swept away all opposition.Recommend

  • Necromancer

    Everything is open for competition and my reply was specifically for “Another North Indian”………I have got nothing against India or Hindus…….Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    I’m aware of that and my comment was for both of you, it’s only that I replied to the latest message (chronological order).Recommend

  • TheAverageMoe

    “Miyan Musharraf eik Hindu attankwad nahi karta hai. Par Miyan Musharraf, kaan khol kar sun lo, jis din Hindu attankwad aayega na, us din duniya ke nakshe se Pakistan ka namon nishan mit jayega.”

    Ahmadenijad mad a similar statement about Israel and the world went crazy over those comments even though Iran didn’t have nukes, however the future Prime Minister of India, a country with the atomic bomb has a made threat to Pakistan’s existence, and our PM wants to be friends with him!Where’s the western media now?Recommend

  • TheAverageMoe

    Does Sarabjhit Singh ring any bells?Recommend

  • Faraz Talat

    You know when they say, “Denying an obvious culture of racism is itself a form of racism?” It’s like that with nationalism and religious fanaticism too.

    And yes, the party that fervently promotes the construction of a temple on the site of demolished Babri mosque, or openly supports the prosecution of people for saying ‘Pakistan Zindabad’, can probably not be accused of Hindu nationalism. My bad entirely.

    If you truly believe BJP isn’t saying or hasn’t said anything to inculcate the culture of Hindu nationalism, you probably haven’t looked very much into it. In fact, if there is one Indian party that can be blamed for it, it is this right-wing group.Recommend

  • BlackJack

    I will agree that the BJP support base is largely Hindu and that they espouse Indian nationalism, but they are a major political force today because of the reasons in my previous comment – many people are sick of vote-bank politics where the aim is to divide the majority community by caste and keep the minority in perpetual fear of the majority. The shilanyas (stone-laying ceremony for the temple at the Ayodhya disputed site) was done by Rajiv Gandhi, he thus revived the Ram Janmabhoomi dispute that has been in force since 1949 (legally) and for much longer before that. This is not to say that the BJP are very different from other Indian political parties in their methods or scruples – only that they do not invoke Hindu nationalism because there isn’t a market for it. There is a much stronger response for Indian nationalism over Hindu nationalism any day.Recommend

  • abhi

    Yes one poor fellow brutally killed in Pakistani jail.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    The courts in Pakistan have in the past sentenced to death former PMs, justified Military takeovers, whatnot.

    No sane person, especially a non-Pakistani would believe in any ruling by any Pakistani court, including any conviction. Even Pakistani Military don’t believe their own courts. Shakil Afridi was tried under some FATA-specific regulations, wasn’t he. Not under the law common man in Pakistan is supposed to follow.

    Whilst not a single prominent Taliban member has been convicted successfully after so many bomb blasts, so many kidnappings, so many targeted killings; the courts had no problem convicting this man, who was mostly targeted for being at the wrong place at the wrong time, for the crime of being an Indian.

    Few years ago when TTP was it its infancy, many “Indian agents” were caught and even paraded and claimed all over that TTP was supported by RAW.

    Few believe that now. I am sure don’t either.

    No Hindu or Sikh hates Pakistan enough to go to Pakistan and kill randomly. But, the opposite is not true.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    No matter what his ideology is, the PM of India has to abide by a certain rules. That is the difference between states like Pakistan, where military takeover is a once in 2 decades affair; and India.

    When BJP came to power in 1998, such dire predictions were made in Pakistan. Go back to your old newspapers and check for yourself.

    What happened? India under BJP forwarded a hand of friendship towards Pakistan, the military rulers in Pakistan replied back with a Kargil.

    That is the beauty of India, and a tragedy. The Actions of successive Governments will be very similar.

    BJP and Congress, by the way, are very similar political groups. Just like in a debate competition, the 2 sides stick to their narrative.

    India as a whole has to abide by its Constitution. Some events are undesirable and cannot be stopped, but some of the things which can happen in Pakistan, can never ever happen in India.

    Entire Sects being proscribed, institutional discrimination, PMs being hung by Banana courts.. Never can happen in India.Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    Western media and think tank is more paranoid about some countries in mid east, the same way it is about North Korea. I won’t go deeper into the reasons but this is a known fact.
    However, in the context of Pakistani & Indian PMs extending friendship and not getting paranoid about nukes is that both the nations have nuclear capability and a full scale war is not a real possibility in the wake of this reality. I see such statements merely as a symbolism, to keep the people engaged in rallies. Although, I also believe that the same people won’t give a rat’s ‘behind’ about such chants when the moment has passed. Populace at large is more interested in where the next meal is coming from.Recommend

  • Shivanand

    Dear Sapan,
    I m a South Indian from Bangalore. We dont see any similarity between us and Pakistanis. Pakistan has been a hostile country to us since its inception. They have been aiding terrorist activities against our country and will continue to do so.
    On the other hand you are calling Mr.Modi as fascist. Let me tell you, people will vote for Mr.Modi, because of his development track record and right now he is the only hope for our country. In South India , Ram mandir was never a major issue and people have always voted for development. Let me assure you, Mr.Modi as PM will ensure riot-free India as he has done it in Gujarat for a decade. Hope you will start loving India more than any other country.
    JAI HIND.Recommend

  • Indian

    Let me assure you that Modi will NOT become India’s prime minister. Mark my words. Jai HindRecommend

  • Abhinav Prakash
  • piyu2cool

    Who sends terrorists across the border? Peace loving people?Recommend

  • G. Din

    Invite him over – and keep him.
    Punjabi Hindus are considered as trustworthy by other Indians as Punjabi Muslims by other Pakistanis such as Buloch or Sindhis!
    Trust me, he doesn’t speak for India, much less for 85% of them – Hindus.Recommend

  • Punjabi Hindu Indian

    So Punjabi Hindus are not Indians? And what else?Recommend

  • wajid

    check the hindustan times news about the sarbajeet singh’s Raw connections.Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    “Punjabi Hindus are considered as trustworthy by other Indians as Punjabi Muslims by other Pakistanis such as Buloch or Sindhis!”

    Care to explain as to how you came to this conclusion? Are there any conspiracy theories floating around at your end wherein Indian Punjabis are trying to make a secret deal with Pakistani Punjabis?Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    Apparently, together with our Sikh brethren, we are Khalistanis ;)Recommend

  • G. Din

    Read the comment repeatedly if you have problems understanding it.Recommend

  • Observer

    Interestingly people who benefitted most from partition seem to be secularist non-Muslim Punjabis, including refugees like Kuldip Nayyar, MMS, Sachar, Vinod Sharma, forefathers of Tarun Tejpal, Ashish Khetan to name a few.
    That begs the question. Jinnah had declared his intention to create a secular Pakistan, where a person would Pakistani first and Muslim, Hindu, Sikh later. Why didn’t these people stayed there and help Jinnah build minority friendly secular Pakistan? why did they chose to run away? Now same people along with Sapan Kapoor, are lecturing us about secularism instead of being grateful for being given asylum.

    Do they have the other agenda of undermining Hindus in ROI?Recommend

  • Observer

    Sapan Kapoor,
    Being a Punjabi, and possibly a Hindu Mojahir, why don’t you move to Pakistan and preach your ideals of secularism to over Pakistani brothers, so that kicked out Hindus and Sikhs can return to their ancestral homes.
    In the mean time while you are India can you please enlighten use ignorant Hindus,
    Why is it that at the time of partition non-Muslim population of present day Pakistan was close to 30%, with majority or near majority in Karachi and Lahore, while Muslim population in ROI India was less than 10% but today Muslim population in India has grown to more than 15% while one has to send a search party to find a Hindu or Sikh in Pakistan today?
    If Indians and Pakistanis are brothers why do you expect Indians to be morally at high level in terms of dealing with minorities than Pakistanis? By your logic Indians should be morally as bankrupt as their Pakistani brothers are.Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    Yes, I have a problem understanding it, please explain.Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    “being grateful for being given asylum”… You gave us asylum in our own land, seriously? Do you even know the history of Punjab and it’s geographical extent?
    Btw, instead of going into a debate with you on the topic, I would first like to hear about your credentials and expertise level on this subject. We are, in any case, going off track here.Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    Before questioning others, here is a fun fact for you, it was because of Hindi/Urdu speaking UPites why Punjab was forced to be divided and we are still stuck with Kashmir problem.
    Moreover, do not undermine the contribution of Punjabis in Indian economy and other areas.
    I don’t hear the Punjabis of East Punjab complaining about immigrant Punjabis, considering that the bulk of populace settled in East Punjab after Partition. This is exactly why I say that “Union” of india is a sham. We are far too different and intolerant, culturally.Recommend

  • Observer

    Yes. I fully know the history of Punjab, how long Punjabis have been ruled by Muslims, mostly Afghans and Pathans. It was only Ranjit Sigh’s rule from Lahore, which enabled Punjab to be united and Hindu Punjabis ceased to become second class citizens. During partition also it was Master Tara Singh and other Sikhs, who fought back. Hindus like Kudip Nayyar ran away.
    May be Bhindranvale was right in terming Punjabi Hindus as bakris. Thanks to him India is more prosperous.
    Neither west, nor Hindus appreciate ungrateful refugees. Why aren’t these guys moving back to. Pakistan and preach their secularism to our Pakistani brothers?Recommend

  • Observer

    You are ignorant. It was Muslim Punjabis , who when incited by Jinnah, proceeded with direct action and brought down Sikandar Hayat Khan’s government, not UP Muslims, though UP, Bihar and Bengal were stronghold of Muslim League. So after partition Muslim population in British India should have been matched the percentage of non-Muslims in Pakistan. But Nehru due to his ape like intelligence and behavior did not allowed it to happen, and allowed Pakistan to ethnically cleansed itself of Hindus.
    Kashmir is different issue. It was cause by Kashmiri Pandits, since time of Gulab Singh, who prevented Muslims to reconvert to Hinduism, then later on under Nehru and his ogress daughter, who did not send Indian army to Azad Kashmir when opportunities presented itself.Recommend

  • Observer

    Because is more intelligent. He knows the real threat to Pakistan is from it’s own military and Hindu secularists across the border who want Pakistan to fail to prove validity of their one nation theory. Hindu right wingers, or for that matter Talibanis in Pakistan, does not pose such threat and can be managed.
    You seem like a Mohajir and like many of our Hindu Punjabi refugees are ungrateful to nation who gave you refuge and want to undermine it by forcing it to fight in a war it can not win.Recommend

  • Observer

    May be you should move to Pakistan and enlighten us about how humanely Pakistan is treating it’s minority, so that we can learn from our Pakistani brothers. Unlike leftists Hindus who think they know all and does not need to learn from Pakistanis, Hindu right wingers are ready to learn from our Pakistani brothers.Recommend

  • Observer

    Mani Shankar Aiyer is another refugee from Lahore. Even though he is Aiyar, he is lot dumber than other famous Aiyar, General Zia-Ul-Haq, who successfully brought Pakistan to level of India in nuclear technology by playing off USA successfully.,Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    Ok Einstein, only Punjabis were ruled by Afghans & Pathans, you’ve conveniently forgotten Mughal Empire.

    As far as Sikhs are concerned, you absolutely have no idea about our intertwined history so let me not even start. There are a lot of Khatri & Arora (sikhs & hindus), it’s not a coincidence.

    And everybody knows how Bhindranwala was made and what he was asking for, or should I go into that too?Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    An you are on a defensive now… Why did your secular Nehru not allow Jinnah to become the Prime Minister of undivided independent India and this situation could’ve been avoided?Recommend

  • Observer

    Because Nehru was a scoundrel. Nehru and his father joined Congress with only one purpose, to become PM. Therefore he persuaded Gandhi not to accept Jinnah’s proposal to have separate ballot for Hindus and Muslims, because in that case his plan to use Muslim vote bank against Hindus would not work.
    India would have been better off with Jinnah as PM of united India, if failing that Patel as PM of partitioned India .Once India was partitioned Hindus should have been dealing with Muslims and Pakistan in the same manner that they did to Hindus. There should have been be no place crooked, but stupid, Nehru.
    Kashmris finally understood Nehru game and get rid of Pandits among them. I don’t feel any sympathy for suffering of secularists Hindus in India,as they deserve it.Recommend

  • Observer

    Bhindranvle was created by Indira Gandhi with purpose of undermining Akali dal. But Bindranwale was lot smarter than she gave him credit for.He was not willing to be a mere pawn in Nehru dynasty and CQs game. Sikhs also understand Nehru dynasty game and therefor Akali dal is with BJP.Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    I concur with your observations about Nehru and have nothing more to add.Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    So I rest my case, Nehru-Gandhi dynasty is “Non-Punjabi Hindu”. They are the ones responsible for every ill that has befallen over Punjab since 47 (including partition).Recommend

  • Observer

    Therefore it is time for India to replace Nehru dynasty with another Gujarati Narendra Modi, as it failed in 1965 to prevent Motilal’s family to hang on it’s hold on power by making Morarji Desai as PM and replacing Nehru’s secularism, socialism and non-alignment with Hindutva, competition and foreign policy based on national interest.Recommend

  • https://www.facebook.com/shail.arora.589 Shail Arora

    Nice try but I still feel disenchanted with Indian democracy. And I’m not in awe of Modi anyways.Recommend

  • Indian

    Why not choose an aam aadmi instead? AAP maybe!
    Far better option than fascist, communal Modi.Recommend

  • Observer

    AAP is joke. Kejrwal is simply an opportunist. Typical Haryanvi like Rikshaw drivers of Delhi. they are out to swindle you if you speak to them in non-Haryanvi Hindi. I’ll chose Bangladeshi Rikshaw driver any time in Delhi over Haryanvi.

    Anna was smart and kicked that opportunist out. This AAP after winning some seats will, join Congress after election like Bhajan LalRecommend

  • Shahnaseéb

    “Pakistanis are not our enemies; they have never been. Indians and Pakistanis are twin brothers who were separated at birth in 1947.”

    Thank-you, man. Thank-you for writing this. God bless you!Recommend

  • Indian

    Still better than fascist, communal Modi.Recommend

  • Reddy

    how many riots have happened during bjp led govts and congress led govts…even if it is author’s criteria to vote(that in itself is a nutter)..still BJP wins hands down.Recommend

  • sid

    because Mr Jinnah was not secular and if given a chance then today India would be a terrorist country like what Pakistan is now.Recommend