Pervez Musharraf: Defending a patriot from cowards and liars

Published: February 7, 2014
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With a Supreme Court full of those who were affected by the November 3rd action, is there any doubt that Musharraf will get a fair trial? PHOTO: REUTERS

Many people like to ask me questions about why I support former president Pervez Musharraf. As part of the questions, they like to pepper in the misinformation that the Pakistani media has presented to the public for consumption.

During one such discussion on Facebook, I was asked the following:

The question cum comment

“According to you, Khalid Muhammad, what were the positives and negatives of Musharraf’s tenure? People consider him to be the reason for drones, missing people (Aafia Siddiqui), Bugti murder case, Lal Masjid, all that happened to Pakistan after 9/11 (and) the current shortfall of electricity and gas. Suicide bombing took a toll during his rule, then May 12, 2007 (incident took place) in Karachi, (he broke) the constitution twice and many more. What all out of these are true and what all are not? Because people only hear what they are made to hear and the actual facts and information is many times different from the general perception.”

My response

Before I discuss the good of Musharraf’s tenure, let me answer the things that you have posted.

Drones

Yes, this program was started during the Musharraf government but it was overseen by the Pakistan Army. No drone could be launched in Pakistani airspace without the express approval of the Pakistan Army. The drones’ flight patterns were also contained in boxes set by the army, so that other things could not be spied upon. I have received this information through research by a US-based organisation that has mapped out the total drone strikes and deaths in Pakistan since the start of the program.

Missing people

This too is a media manufactured issue. The missing people that are being reported from Musharraf’s time fall into two categories: foreign fighters and Pakistanis caught in Afghanistan.

The foreign fighters captured by the Pakistan Army were first offered to their countries of origin, namely Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates (UAE) and the likes. If the country of origin refused to accept them then they were handed over to the US because they were terrorists in our country.

The Pakistanis who were caught in Afghanistan were taken straight to Bagram and then to the United States Naval Station Guantanamo Bay (Gitmo). No Pakistani was taken from inside the country to Gitmo. When it comes to Aafia Siddiqui, I leave it to you to decide based on the information in this article. Even the judge in the US who heard her case said that if you are innocent, provide a defence so that we can free you – she did not.

When we talk about the Baloch, we can’t have this discussion without talking about the Balochistan Liberation Army that is fighting to pull Balochistan from Pakistan.

The Baloch are right in demanding that they be given more of their fair share when it comes to the resources that are used by the state. But demanding secession from Pakistan is not the answer nor is taking up arms against the state to achieve that end. Many of the missing Baloch people could be, and probably are, a part of this movement and not actually missing, as some would like to claim.

Now, I am not saying that the intelligence services have not captured some of those involved in these activities, which I am sure they have, but to wholly claim that all of the missing persons from Balochistan are in state’s custody is not believable. And to blame Musharraf for all these disappearances is factually, morally and ethically wrong.

Why isn’t anyone talking about Nawaz Sharif and his version of the Patriot Act for Pakistan, the Protection of Pakistan bill?

As per the guidelines of this bill, anyone who is involved in any anti-state behaviour, which is not clearly defined, can be arrested and detained indefinitely without any access to courts, family or rights. Are we suggesting that Pakistan has its own Gitmo (Guantanamo) for those who the government of the day feels are not within the norms of our society as deemed by them? Are we going to witness blanket arrests of those who protest for lower prices, a better economy, more effective governance and policing or anything else that affects the common man?

Not knowing the guidelines of what is considered ‘anti-state’ makes this bill a tool for imprisoning those who the state disagrees with. Interestingly, the Protection of Pakistan bill is not being implemented against the TTP, who are claiming to be involved and responsible for anti-state activities. They are being brought to the negotiating table to redress their grievances.

So is what is the point of a bill like this, other than being another attempt to placate the public into believing that the state is working for their safety? Yet, no one is raising their voice, no court is questioning the validity or the constitutionality of this bill. Is it true, that in a democratic setup, Pakistanis are willing to allow for much more ‘gamesmanship’ than they would under a military one? It seems so doesn’t it?

Lal Masjid

Musharraf was right in what he did. If I were prime minister back then, I would have taken action sooner. The Ghazi brothers regularly made speeches supporting al Qaeda, illegally took control of a library for themselves, and kidnapped people and burned shops because they chose to. When you behave like a bully, you can’t complain if a bigger bully comes along and kicks your behind.

Please remember that the whole episode built for six months before the government took action. They tried to reason with them. They tried to negotiate with them. They even asked anyone who wanted to leave, to leave without charge or arrest. The Ghazi brothers wanted a fight and fired the first shot that killed a commando on the street.

And while we are talking about Lal Masjid, why were there so many weapons in the taliba’s (students) hands?

If it is a mosque, there should be books, not AK-47s, rocket launchers and other weapons.

This was not a place of worship – it was a school of war.

The suicide bombings

During Musharraf’s government, the army was fighting terrorists, killing them and their members. Terrorists only knew one way to retaliate for the losses they were suffering – by killing innocent civilians via suicide bombs. Now let’s be clear; suicide bombing is a coward’s way to fight and un-Islamic to the core.

Suicide bombings were taught to the TTP by al Qaeda trainers that had seen the success in Iraq. They were formally trained in Afghanistan on how to make suicide vests, how to brainwash people into believing that this was their path to jannat (heaven) and kept them locked away from everyone to make sure no one convinced them otherwise.

There was a suicide training centre on my family’s land in Swat while the TTP had control of the area. I visited it after they were forced out of Swat. I can’t explain the sadness I felt when I listened to the stories and what my eyes saw there.

Violating the constitution

This is the one charge that many have held up against Musharraf but I would remind these people that the whole nation – including the Pakistan Peoples Party – celebrated when he took over the country. Not one lawyer stepped on the street or into the court to challenge the act of October 12, 1999.

Iftikhar Chaudhry affirmed all these actions, after taking the Provisional Constitutional Order oath, when he was chief justice. The discussion, however, is not about October 12, 1999 but on November 3, 2007, where Iftikhar Chaudhry’s ego was damaged because he was questioned about the manner in which he ran the Supreme Court.

The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) approved General Musharraf’s candidacy for president of Pakistan, which was immediately challenged by retired Supreme Court Justice Wajihuddin Ahmed on the grounds of whether a member of the military was constitutionally permitted to hold the Presidential Office. It should be noted that Musharraf was already president when this challenge was submitted.

On the September 28, the Supreme Court declared that Musharraf could contest the elections but the ECP could not announce the results until a final decision was announced by the Supreme Court. Musharraf won 98% of the vote in the Senate, Parliament and the four provincial assemblies.

This is where the story turns, like so many in Pakistan do.

The Supreme Court decided to delay the announcement of its decision due to a personal engagement of one of the members of the bench, which was quickly changed citing instability in Pakistan.

Let’s be clear, the Constitution of Pakistan does allow the president to declare a State of Emergency as per Article 232 if he is assured that a situation exists to warrant its imposition. So how is it a violation of the Constitution when the Constitution itself allows for it?

If we look at the text of the Emergency Proclamation and the on-ground conditions in the country at the time, there are three things cited as the reasons for the declaration – increase in attacks within the borders of Pakistan by extremists and terrorists, attacks against state institutions and law enforcement agencies and some members of the judiciary working against the fight against terrorism and extremism.

It would be unfair for me not to cite that the courts of Pakistan have not sentenced anyone involved in terrorist activities to prison sentences in the last decade, including Mumtaz Qadri, the man who admitted to assassinating Salmaan Taseer. Instead, most were freed, including those involved in Lal Masjid, citing incomplete evidence only to return to their terror groups and resume attacks on Pakistani citizens and state institutions.

Do you honestly feel that the ‘state of emergency’, which lasted until December 15, was uncalled for or unjustified?

However, I think we should also talk about others who have violated the Constitution in the past. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, the PPP’s founder, was the first civilian martial law administrator in the country’s history. He suspended the Constitution that he wrote and passed through the assemblies. He was never charged with treason.

Ziaul Haq, the General who Islamised Pakistan, also violated the Constitution when he overthrew Bhutto. He added amendments to the Constitution that are a violation of human rights and those amendments have never been removed. He too was never charged with treason.

Nawaz Sharif, current prime minister of Pakistan, stormed the Supreme Court and removed Chief Justice Sajjad Ali Shah, attempted to pass an amendment to the Constitution that would make him ruler of Pakistan and supported the Zia regime as finance minister Punjab and chief minister Punjab. He was never charged with treason.

No member of the current political government fulfils the requirements of Article 62 and 63 of the Constitution, yet they are sitting in our assemblies, as elected members and ministers.

Hussain Haqqani, Pakistan’s former ambassador to the United States, was about to be charged with treason but he fled the country, claiming that he had received threats to his life.

When we talk about violating the Constitution, it seems like it’s done every day in Pakistan, by those who are present in our assemblies, running political parties and practicing law. Yet, no one dares to demand that they be charged for violating the Constitution or disallowed from competing in elections.

Special court and arrest warrant

Before we can even accept the arrest warrant issued by the special court, we need to validate their powers under the laws of Pakistan. Based wholly on the court documents, President Musharraf is being referred to as General Musharraf, which creates a conflict for the government.

Certainly within the bounds of the Constitution of Pakistan, the government of the day has the right to prosecute a civilian for violating the Constitution, but when it comes to a uniformed officer, it falls to the Army Act. The Army Act states that any case involving a member of the armed forces, and their collaborators, will be heard in a military tribunal, unless the Chief of Army Staff gives written consent to forego this right of the armed forces.

Has Sharif or had his predecessor Kayani given this consent?

If they have not, then the special court has no power or right to hear this case. Thus, ending their ability to issue an arrest warrant for the former president.

Additionally, with a Supreme Court full of those who were affected by the November 3rd action, is there any doubt that Musharraf will get a fair trial?

They refuse to grant him the same privilege that has been afforded to Nawaz Sharif, who was able to have a hijacking verdict overturned after nine years by the same court that issued the verdict without any new evidence, but Musharraf’s petition was time-barred after four.

Lady Justice is not blind in Pakistan and the scales are not even.

But let’s assume that the special court does have the power to issue the arrest warrant for the former president. First, even if the accused does not appear in court, the bench cannot immediately declare him a proclaimed offender and absorb his assets.

The proclaimed offender distinction is reserved for those who are evading arrest and in hiding, which Musharraf is not. His attorneys are at every court hearing and he is in the hospital.

Now, I won’t get into the duplicitous game of allowing some to testify via a video link due to death threats, perceived or otherwise, in treason cases from outside the reach of Pakistani law enforcement. Nor will we discuss the corruption cases of the 90s when all the accused leaders had fled the country to avoid prosecution and were not stripped of their assets in Pakistan. Nor will we talk about the multitude of excuses made to the courts on why people could not appear before the bench, ranging from medical to personal problems.

No, we won’t talk about those things because Pakistan is dead set on charging Musharraf thinking that it will keep the Army in the barracks forever, if they can just get one General convicted. Forget about all the collaborators, politicians and others, who stood shoulder to shoulder with the “dictator” in prolonging his rule. They are inconsequential in the scope of things – it’s the Army that needs to be taught a lesson, not those who supported, benefited and are still in government today.

It was Confucius who said “before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves,” leading me to wonder who will occupy the second grave on this journey of revenge – the government, the judiciary or the State of Pakistan.

So why are we charging Musharraf with violating the Constitution?

This is because it suits the political feudals to hold him responsible for the failures of the political governments. Rather than holding themselves responsible for their own failure to deliver, they are targeting Musharraf.

Prior to the May 2013 elections, Shahbaz Sharif had promised to end load-shedding in Pakistan within months of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) taking power. What did they do once they did get elected and formed a government?

Absolutely nothing!

Imran Khan promised to rid Pakistan of corruption in 90 days, but it’s been six months since he has been in power in the troubled Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (K-P) and that promise has still not been executed on any level. It fits the popular political mantra of Pakistan, that ‘it’s not our fault, the previous government emptied the coffers,’ while these politicians ask for more loans from international organisations to empty into their own private, offshore bank accounts.

If you are willing to charge one man in uniform for treason, then why are the others exempted from the same charge, with more heinous crimes?

This post originally appeared here.

Khalid Muhammad

Khalid Muhammad

A recently published novelist and political strategist. He tweets as @AgencyRulesPK (twitter.com/AgencyRulesPK)

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Pk

    It’s misperception of suicide terrorism or other form starting in musharrafs time. It’s absurd and wrong first suicide terrorist carnage took place on Egyptian embassy in ISB in 1995/96. While sectarian terrorism was at it’s peak during 90s. If you check from 2007 end when Musharrafs power weakened and judiciary started interfering in matters of state terrorist carnages, drones increased manifolds as while the judiciary started releasing culprits and prosecution rate when our so called independent judiciary came is mere 2.7%Recommend

  • Naim

    Good article revealing true facts, that a lot of people of Pakistan have no knowledge of due to some biased media, anti Musharraf political parties misleading the masses,disagree with suicide
    bombings starting during Musharraf’s tenure. Recommend

  • Ahsan

    I saulte Khalid Mahmood for honestly answering all what our paid media keeps rolling. On Aafia, every one must know that she was a member of Al-Qaeda, which was disclosed by Khalid Shaikh Mohammad. We should not show any sympthy for her as she is Pakistan’s enemy. Recommend

  • humayun

    I like your blog. And agree with most what you have written. The last 1/3 remains to be read. I am sure it would be equally convincing, having enjoyed the first section.
    Well done, and keep it up & going.Recommend

  • Ali

    Kudos to you. Extremely well-written!Recommend

  • mano

    Finally a sane review of Musharraf’s era. I would like to see the Musharraf haters responding to this article..Recommend

  • http://@net Kublai

    Excellent article. Tackling with finesse, clearly define
    subject matters. Point by point.
    Had no idea the lion of Punjab stormed the Supreme
    Court. Recommend

  • saleem

    Media propaganda really worked against Musharraf this time – remember Hamid Mir? How he did a face-about on the lal masjid issue? How he keeps bringing in Musharraf into everything that ails Pakistan almost on a nightly basis? Repeatedly mentioning May 12, never mind that since May 12, 2007 many thousand times more people have lost their lives in Karachi due to bombings, and gang/political party sponsored violence.
    Even the few sectors hiring today in telecom/banking are those continuing from the last decade – what has last 6 years given to the youth of this nation?Recommend

  • http://@net Khushab wala.

    Musharraf made a bad mistake returning.
    Even the village idiot would have told him
    not to return. Hubris, bullheadedness, not
    listening to sane advice and abandonment
    by former comrades resulted in this fiasco.Recommend

  • Parvez

    You are absolutely correct and entitled to your views. Others obviously do not agree with you. So they have taken the matter to the highest court in the land………..let the court decide.
    Isn’t that what the court is there for ?Recommend

  • muhammad awais abbasi

    Excellent article revealing true facts, that a lot of people of Pakistani have no knowledge And I saulte Mr. Khalid Mahmood for honestly answering all. Recommend

  • fus

    Find me the so called corruption that was done during the Masharraf’s time. Even couple that media love to highlight were not doe by PM, just compare with BB and NS . Compare the time of Musharraf and last 6 years of democracy, check the stats of robbery, killing and rapes, you will see the difference. Compare the job market, projects, fund given and spent on al the provinces, you will see the difference. The NFC award was reconstituted during his time so that all the provinces get the share they rightly deserve. It is a pity that media does not bring out these facts since Media itself is “bikao” just like the justice system. Nobody is taking about the fact that the deal that Shakat Aziz was getting for Pakistan Steel was the best possible, with out the land, and now it will be sold for Peanuts. Nobody talk about the fact that Pakistan steel and PIA became profitable during Musharrafs time. List is long but it does not matter when the people are deaf and “dumb”. Do we seriously believe current leadership has “brain” to outsmart Taliban, i doubt it, I fear this govt. would infact legitimize taliban and their demands. Recommend

  • Naim

    @Ahsan: Aafia siddiqui was also an American citizen, lived in the U.S since the 90’s,gave her allegiance to U.S when she got her citizenship, most pakistani’s have not known of her being a U.S citizen.Recommend

  • Hammad

    Excellent Article….. Keep it up KhalidRecommend

  • immortal_soloist

    Excellent work Mr.Khalid Muhammad.

    Well said and written.

    This personal and politicised vendetta against Pervez Musharraf,a real patriot will
    be costly for the country.

    May this nation wake up. Recommend

  • Saira Ahmad

    no body was ready to hear anything at the time of lawyers movement when I talked about Article 232 which empowers to proclaim emergency and Article236 (2) according to which the validity of such proclamation can not be called in question in any Court of law. and Iftikhar Chaduhry was running his case not before Supreme Judicial Council or in Full Bench but on the roads through public and now his corruption stories can be listened in Senate. Saira Ahmad, student of law. Recommend

  • Ali Hashim

    Given a choice between a democratic Pakistan with Zardari or Nawaz Sharif in power and a semi- democratic Pakistan with Musharraf at the helm, would vote for Musharraf any day.
    I will do so in view of the outcomes for the country and not because of a theoretical discussion about the democratic rights. Recommend

  • Ada

    If he is free from all charges and counts, let him come to the courts then. He must fight his case in the same manner as Bhutto. After all, the estab must start having a little taste of its own medicine..right? Cannot believe that people in Pakistan still take the constitution to be their toy..it is sacred sir and although I am def against him being charged alone for his crimes, it does not exonerate him from not even attending the trial.
    Recommend

  • umar

    So truly said, excellent explanation what is right and what is possible. Actually we hear what we are made to hear Recommend

  • Maria

    I can’t disagree with you more. Musharraf violated his oath as a military office and took over illegally as a dictator. End of story. Everywhere in the world this act alone would have him cursed but in Pakistan, some people call this patriotic? If you ask me, Musharraf is the biggest coward in Pakistan who is only brave when he has a gun. I am sure you think that all of the Arab dictators who rule illegally are also great patriots but to me they are also cowards. What is a brave and patriotic is to respect the constitution and work within the system to build a better country. I dream of the day when Muslim citizens all over the world can respect this.Recommend

  • Farah

    @author thank you sir. A big salute to you. proud to have such people alive those who stand for truth. Recommend

  • Farah

    @Maria:
    did you ever had a problem in is leadership? were you confined in your house like every other dictator did in past? were you starving while the dictator was having your fellow citizen beaten to death? nothing happened to Pakistan or its people. you all were living a happy life. i guess you should be thankful instead cursing the person for his kindness. you and kind of your should have zia-ul-haq as leaders who kick you, make you starve, make you beg, drink all you countries assets. shame on your thoughts on your life. take a deep look at your self in mirror today. you talk about respecting the constitution, i bet when you ever a kid you had cheated on the test.its people like you who break rules and taunt the world about them. Recommend

  • Barooq

    A coup is a coup is a coup.
    He was an illegitimate ruler, end of story.
    Just because we didn’t charge anyone with treason previously doesn’t mean we never should or will. What kind of logic is that? Musharaf violated constitution, he should be held accountable. Whoever has done before and hasn’t been prosecuted, doesn’t give Musharaf carte blanche to do the same.

    Also facts do matter for you can’t just make stuff up. for example

    “Nawaz Sharif, current prime minister of Pakistan, stormed the Supreme Court and removed Chief Justice Sajjad Ali Shah, attempted to pass an amendment to the Constitution that would make him ruler of Pakistan”

    Now this is all ridiculous. He never did storm the court personally, and removal of justice Shah while based on personal enmity was done through a judicial route not by issuing a single order by a single man. I disagree with what NS did, but violating the constitution he didn’t. Also passing an amendment no matter how ridiculous it was, is the constitutional way. Wrong yes, unconstitutional and treason, no.
    I mean if you are giving a legal opinion then give a legal opinion. Don’t make stuff up.Recommend

  • A. Malik

    Soldiers take oath to defend country, they don’t take oath to defend Govts and corrupt politicians. and It will keep happening until Politician set fair standards of Governance that will ultimately end military interference @Maria:Recommend

  • http://Yahoo.com SHB

    Can you please ask or get his last fourteen yrs tax returns while he was army chief and president of the country till 2008? Then post them on the web, so we know how much money he made legally?

    How did he build his Palace in Chak shahzad? How much money was spent?
    By his own declaration before the election, his net worth was Rs 630 million. How did he accumulate this kind of money. By the way, it did not include his foreign properties in UK.
    One of them he recently sold for Twenty million and other one is on sale for fifty million.

    To me he is a corrupt person including his wife, unless proven otherwise. He should be tried for corruption in addition to present charges.Recommend

  • http://www.smslocker.com shoaib

    what u think guys that is all ok which done by pakistan gov with Musharraf ..?Recommend

  • sonam shyam

    Before Musharraf became CEO of Pakistan in a totally unconstitutional coup, he was the Chief of Pakistan army. Therefore his acts of omission and commission as COAS need to be probed first. I think the author would remember Musharraf’s role in the Kargil war. Not only did Musharraf launch the war but also displayed criminal dereliction of duty by claiming that those fighting in Kargil were not from the Pakistan army. The footprints of Pak army’s Northern light infantry regiment were all over Kargil, yet Musharraf had the gall to deny the presence of his men to the extent that he refused to take their dead bodies and Indian army buried more than 250 of them. When the war ended in a defeat for Pakistan and the local media exposed duplicity of Musharraf, he in his typical cavalier fashion gave his armymen medals for bravery in the war. Believe me in any country where there was even half decent rule of law, Musharraf would have been imprisoned for life or even executed for disowning his soldiers in a war ordered by him. Spare a thought Mr.author for the hundreds of unsung NLI soldiers who are still buried on the icy heights of Kargil in the Indian side of Kashmir.Recommend

  • Necromancer

    Excellent references you have provided :P I am quite compelled looking at those highly academic article…seriously……….highly interactive information on drones that was really informative “but it was overseen by the Pakistan Army. “?? Now who was heading the army; well my humble guess Musharraf……I think that would be enough….and I think real world is a little more difficult………..Recommend

  • mohammad

    Amazingly very well written, this is what we are shouting for Musharraf.Hats off to you…. Now anyone out there can disagree on this? But Musharraf haters will definitely come up with some twisted facts and figures. They will not be able to digest the truth similar to their so called leaders. Recommend

  • Anwaar

    Ok. agreed with the part that Musharraf’s time was FAAAR better than what we have now… BUT… if you can recall Musharraf allied with PML_Q which is a party of feudal lords…Secondly it was Musharraf’s time when mobile snatching became a common thing in Karachi. every week you’ll hear from a friend of yours that his mobile was snatched .(oh yeah! MQM was in local and provincial Govt at that time)…

    And Don’t Ever forget the night Benazir was killed… those who live in KArachi can never forget it…. hundreds of cars were burned ATMs looted people killed, girls raped and missing and this all started at 7 pm… and the police was nowhere and the Rangers landed at around 12 am (28th Dec)… what was stopping him from declaring emergency or curfew than ???Recommend

  • Natasha

    @Barooq: “[Nawaz Sharif] never did storm the court personally” And Musharraf didn’t personally impose the November 3 emergency.

    Sajjad Ali Shah was removed by a single order. You can’t remove a CJ just because you don’t like him, and Sajjad Ali Shah never faced the SJC for any charges brought against him. Removing him was unconstitutional.

    Perhaps you should actually read some history.Recommend

  • Necromancer

    I still think he should stick to his work of fiction rather then commenting on real world situation with so much distorted referencesRecommend

  • Natasha

    @Anwaar: The fact that a caretaker government was in place, not Musharraf’s.

    Really. Are the commenters on this site all children? Were you all born in the last decade? Have you no recollection of the situation in Pakistan before Musharraf’s term? Does no one have a memory-span longer than 5 years?

    How is it that no one remembers Zia’s era, and what dictatorship really was? Or that Pakistan was on the brink of being declared a ‘Failed State’ in Nawaz Sharif’s last term. Or the mockery of the constitution that BB and Mian made in the 11 years of ‘democratic’ rule from 1988 to 1999.

    Even if you weren’t born then, having more than a rudimentary knowledge of history is essential to good debate. Without it, you get non-starter comments like @Necromancer and @Barooq and @Anwaar. Welcome to THE Orwellian nightmare.

    Incidental to this point, does anyone know why we’re no longer on the Disqus platform for comments here? Because the ‘democratic’ government blocked it. End free speech. End debate. That’s why we wanted a democracy so badly.Recommend

  • Naim

    @SHB:LOL you should ask your beloved leaders and cronies of Pmln PPP to show their tax
    returns,who are some of the richest people of Pakistan,and own many many properties between them abroad.Musharraf being ex President/army chief would have been awarded plots through
    his army career in Pakistan,he has had a villa style house built not a palace,kindly watch Rana Mubashir interviews with Musharraf at his Chak Shazad residence.
    owns one apartment in London with the rise of price now worth about 2 million pounds,
    Musharraf being the only highest paid Pakistani speaker in the world ,generates substantial income,remind you hundreds of thosands of pakistani’s living in the U.k/U.s.a own properties
    with the passing of time that are now worth million dollars/pounds and above,recent false story
    Musharraf was selling his apartment in London by pmln.Recommend

  • Barooq

    @Natasha
    THE Orwellian nightmare?

    Oh my god. did you ever read Orwell? You passionate defense of big brother says otherwise. I mean you can be hypocritical but seriously associating Orwell here?
    Do you even understand how ridiculous that is?
    Musharraf typified big brother, the new-speak was enlightened moderation, agencies kidnapped Baluchistan with impunity, If there ever was ironic use of Orwell, it was right there.

    Go read Orwell before invoking his name.Recommend

  • Natasha

    @Barooq

    Lol! And you’ve obviously read Orwell?

    Which is why you glossed over/ignored the numerous acts of this government that typify Orwellian actions. The biggest being the re-writing of history – because no one remembers the injustices and economic failures of BB and Mian’s last governments anymore, the oppression suffered under Zia, the brutality of Naseerullah Babar in Karachi in the 90s, the sharp rise in poverty under 11 years of ‘democratic’ rule, the restrictions of the media, of personal finances, of religion…

    Big Brother wasn’t Orwell’s only legacy. The problem is that while we’re happy to apply these terms to a man in uniform, somehow, we believe that the mantle of democracy sanctifies all illegal, unconstitutional, unjust and destructive acts by those ‘legitimately’ in power. When your elected officials get away with every crime under the sun, calling our government democratic is just semantics.

    The fact that our people so readily believe in the rhetoric is the real Orwellian nightmare.Recommend

  • Barooq

    @Natasha
    You hatred towards democracy aside, your argument is, The illegitimate ruler wasn’t as bad as legitimate ones. Do you see the issue? Legitimacy.

    He could be the angel god himself sent, he had no right to govern me because I didn’t get to chose. You see that or your love for uniform blinds you from this basic trampling of my right and yours?

    And while you are are too conditioned by the rather quite successful propaganda against democracy, fed to us by your beloved wardi walas, I have no intention of debating the merits with you.

    you cannot defend the 1st argument, the principal argument. The rest is just mumbo jumbo.

    As i said, A coup is a coup is a coup and it is my fundamental right that whoever governs me, appears on a ballot i can stamp on. Recommend

  • Natasha

    @Barooq
    The fact that you have consistently resorted to insults makes my point. Thank you. :-)

    I wish you all the success and happiness that a ballot paper (which you believe is the be-all and end-all of democracy) gives you.Recommend

  • Barooq

    @Natasha
    There was no insult and if you are so sensitive why bother debating with random people over internet?
    And thank you for wishing me success and happiness. Sarcasm is an easy way out when you can’t for the life of you refute an argument. Recommend

  • http://Yahoo.com SHB

    @Naim:
    Thanks for your comment.
    I usually limit my comment according to the news item.
    Now let us go back to Mr Musharraf. The litmus test for Mr Musharraf is to show to the public his last fourteen yrs tax returns. If he is honest and not a corrupt politicians, he will have no hesitation to make his tax returns public. If he does not, then he is corrupt to the last drop of his blood.
    By the way, I live in a country, where every year, right from the president to the governor, all the way down to the mayor of the city, make their tax return public every year.
    Do you know , how much is the pay of president and prime minister of Pakistan for yr 2013 or 2014?
    The pay of president of USA is $400,000 plus $50,000 food allowance. Period
    President has to pay taxes on that amount too.
    What do you know about the pay of Mr Musharraf from 1999 till 2008?
    I will wait for your answer.
    Thanks for reading my answer provided it pass thru the moderator.Recommend

  • lodhi

    If you appoint a judge or a bureaucrat as President,he will be more competent than politicians.
    So forget about democracy or elections. Appoint senior most Army Chiefs as President of Pakistan.I like Musharraf as a liberal person. But i Think his take over was illegitimate.A chowkidar of a house can be a noble person but he has no right to forcefully occupy a house by pushing away the owner.I met a general of Artillery corps who was offered to join a university as Vice Chancellor.Musharraf performed many irregularities. How he has become a millionnaire?Recommend

  • Farah

    @Barooq:
    we aren’t afraid of a trial. we only want fair people as judges and we want each and every one from past up to now to be charged with their respective cases, even those who have fled of to other countries and those who ordered to kill a chief of army staffRecommend

  • Humza

    @Natasha: I think you have it backwards- Pakistan was labelled a failed state under Musharraf because it appeared like another Tin Pot Muslim dictatorship run by a King or a General instead of a democracy. Now no one talks about Pakistan as an autocratic failed state since the peaceful transition of power and current success of democracy. In fact Pakistan looks better compared to most Muslim countries in the world according to Western press and media. I can tell you in North America where I live Pakistan is getting better press than it ever did under Musharraf or Zardari. Let’s hope people remember this and not wait for another Musharraf to take over by force. I know it’s harder to build democracy but the “easy way of dictatorship” was far worse.Recommend

  • http://www.sychores.blogspot.com Haider Ali

    but law has to prevail afterallRecommend

  • http://sakinama.com Aziz Hamza

    America has accepted their foolish and bad policies regarding War on Terror.
    Bush administration and Obama administration has faced severe criticism on their policies on that war from their people and politicians.
    The whole war is flopped down with turning tables towards dialogues.
    And here WE are defending the biggest ally of US on war on terror that no he was right. Defending the one who is responsible for creating chaos and bloodshed and importing terrorism to Pakistan. Recommend

  • sterry

    Musharraf’s behavior has revealed him to be the biggest coward of all! It’s fine to be brave when you have the army with you and you want to take over unarmed politicians. Look at him now hiding and making sad excuses instead of owning up to his mistakes like a man.Recommend

  • Shoaib

    PM has to hang a few people first if you want to take Pakistan on the path of peace, prosperity and stability. First identify these enemies of Pakistan. I hope you know them by now….I know them very well. Leaders of some extremist/terrorist organisations and some you also know in politics. You have to start from here if you want to succeed.Recommend

  • Shoaib

    PM has to hang a few people first if you want to take Pakistan on the path of peace, prosperity and stability. First identify these enemies of Pakistan. I hope you know them by now….I know them very well. Leaders of some extremist/terrorist organisations and some you also know in politics. You have to start from here if you want to succeed.Recommend