Are Pakistani women ready to go for Eid namaz?

Published: August 8, 2013

Maybe it’s time for the men to rethink; maybe it’s time Pakistani women head for Eid namaz in Pakistan. PHOTO: AFP

Once upon a time, Ammi used to have a list of exciting chores ready for her girls when Eid day arrived. This was the drill: Abba and brothers go for Eid namaz, and while they are gone, we, the women, had to make taaza (fresh) sheer khorma, change bed linen and table cloths (it was some family ritual, I think), get ready, pray the short Eid namaz at home, and be happily ready for the guys to return and give us Eidi.

On Bari Eid (Eidul Azha), a slight modification would be to get ready after the meat was distributed and done with; however, the rest remained the same.

It was all lovely. I am thankful that my mother made sure Eid was splendidly exciting for our family, and that we didn’t spend Eid morning catching up on sleep.

Just one thing was sorely missing in these otherwise lovely, fun family mornings of this most important festival. Like a majority of Pakistani women, we never went for Eid namaz.

We, culturally, do not think about traditions; we just follow them. Often, we don’t even know why we are doing a certain thing. We just do it because everyone else does. And so for the longest time, I never really questioned why we celebrated Eid. The emphasis was on the festivity and celebration, not on why it was such a big deal, just like we prepare for months and years for the wedding, not the marriage. Somewhere, the essence dwindles away.

That’s what my Eid was like for a long time.

Years later, a friend randomly invited me to come along with her on Eid namaz.

I could not say no because I knew by then through authentic prophetic traditions that the Holy Prophet (pbuh) had in fact strongly advised women to go for Eid namaz and join in the collective prayers of the festival.

And so I went.

It wasn’t easy the first time, in all honesty. My daughter was still young and it was winter time. Dragging a little child out of bed, getting her and myself ready early on Eid morning when your body is already sleep-deprived after a month of interrupted sleep – it wasn’t easy. Also, till then my family wasn’t so convinced this was something very important, which meant I had to drive down myself and find a parking outside a crowded mosque. However, am I glad I went. Since that day, I have never missed the opportunity unless there’s been a serious reason.

I found out what men enjoy there and women miss out on. Raising your hands multiple times till your ears and saying “Allahu Akbar” reminds one of why we are celebrating Eid in the first place. It is a celebration of the fact that this past month, we may have inched closer to our Creator. We may have become better human beings; we may have been forgiven this Ramadan; we may be starting with a clean slate and for that, we thank God and rejoice.

Women who go for Eid namaz regularly know that it is not just a spiritual but also a wonderful social experience. The feeling of togetherness and of a community that is swiftly fading in our fast-paced lives is revived. We greet those we know and we greet those we don’t know, and we don’t really care who makes the first move. We congratulate each other and set out with our families after that to eat, meet, greet and enjoy the blessings God has showered on us.

If you take away the Eid namaz from Eid, there is honestly a sense of disconnect between Ramadan and the rest of the year, starting on Chand Raat. We have this 30-day crash course in connection with the Divine, in charity, in prayers and in goodness, and suddenly, we switch all of that off on Eid morning.

Interestingly, many Pakistani women who have been going for taraweeh throughout Ramadan do not go for Eid namaz. More intriguing is how the same women who regularly go for Eid prayers when abroad do not do so when back home in Pakistan.

While a small but increasing number of Pakistani women are going for Eid namaz to mosques, a majority still don’t. The reasons are predictable; for one, not many mosques have that arrangement. Organisers of mosques will be more open to women’s wings in mosques if more women want to go.

Another reason is simple laziness and time management skills that need improvement. Women who don’t want to miss Eid namaz still make the sheer khorma and still change the linen in a ritualistic manner, but they do it a day before. It also boils down to a lack of awareness about the fact that yes, women are supposed to say their Eid namaz too, just like the men.

Talking of the men – they are often not used to the idea. They don’t mind if their lady was out shopping on Chand Raat till midnight, but will raise their brows quizzically if she says “I want to go for Eid namaz”.

Maybe it’s time for the men to rethink; maybe it’s time Pakistani women head for Eid namaz in Pakistan.

If you are a woman and do decide to go for Eid namaz this time, here are some of the places it will be held at:

  • Faisal Mosque, Islamabad
  • Jamia Masjid DHA, Sector J, Masjid Chowk, Lahore
  • Khalid masjid, Cavalry grounds, Lahore
  • Imambargah Yathrab, Phase 4, DHA, Karachi (For Fiqh-e-Jafria)
  • Ayesha Masjid, Khayaban-e-Ittehad, Karachi
  • Masjid Saad bin Abi Waqqas, Phase 4, DHA, Karachi
  • Quran Academy masjid, Seaview, Karachi
  • Gulistan-e-Anis, off Shaheed-e-Millat road, Karachi
  • Sada bahaar lawn, off Shaheed-e-Millat road, Karachi
  • Masjid Bait-us-Salam, Commercial Avenue, phase 4, DHA, Karach

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Farahnaz Zahidi

Farahnaz Zahidi

Farahnaz is a writer and editor, and has worked as the Features Editor with The Express Tribune. Her focus is human-centric feature stories. She now writes as a freelancer, and works in the field of marketing and corporate communications. She loves literature and traveling. She tweets on @FarahnazZahidi. Her work can be seen at chaaidaani.wordpress.com/

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Hina Khan

    Sadly,the overwhelming majority of mosques in Pakistan don’t allow women to pray in them.Only a very tiny minority of mosques allow women to enter.Women and men should pray side by side in mosques.For how long half of the population will be sidelined and treated as inferior?Recommend

  • faiza jamal

    All out efforts must be made to allow women to pray in mosques all around our country. Why are women being marginalised. is it acceptable to keep women out of mosques. why are women treated as something impure and dirty? For how long will this misogynistic mentality prevail in our mosques?Recommend

  • Muhammad Shahid Malik

    It’s a great shame for us that our mosques don’t consider women as equal human beings and prevent them from praying in masjids. Women should offer namaz side by side with men.it wouldn’t hurt us if we started treating women better,women should be allowed to lead prayers in masjids also,there should be female imams just as there are male imams.Recommend

  • Ghaffar Soomro

    Misogyny and patriarchy have joined hands to deny women their rights. Sadly,this misogyny is justified using religion.It’s high time we had female prayer leaders in our mosques. Men and women should pray behind female prayer leaders just as they pray behind male prayer leaders.Recommend

  • Maria

    Great Article! in fact it motivated me for Eid Namaz. i hope i get a chance to pray with other Namazi. ALLAH BLESS U. Recommend

  • abdul rafay

    Why aren’t there women imams in our mosques.Isn’t it time we stopped considering women as an inferior creation and started praying behind female imams? or do we men consider women so inferior to us that we consider it below our dignity to pray behind a woman?Recommend

  • Irfan khattak

    It truly is shocking to see the extremely low number of mosques that offer women to pray.This is absurd. For how long will we tell half the human population that you are not good enough to be allowed to come and pray inside a mosque? This gender apartheid must end,this oppression of women must end.Recommend

  • uzma baig

    No one gives anything on a plate, if women want equal rights they’ll have to demand equal treatment.There needs to be a systematic campaign for having female imams in our mosques.Recommend

  • Ahmed

    @All
    There is nothing wrong with women praying is a mosque as long as the women and men are segregated. This isn’t treating them as inferior or oppression. Infact there are mosques where women do pray.

    A woman can be an imam(leader of the prayer) if it is an all woman congregation. Recommend

  • Pak

    Well written… good jobRecommend

  • lolo

    I love the part saying : “We, culturally, do not think about traditions; we just follow them. Often, we don’t even know why we are doing a certain thing” … Its true for men and women, It means clearly things could change for the best, if women gets self-aware of their own needs and rights if they are encouraged in some ways to put themselves first. Beautiful article full of hope. Recommend

  • Insaan

    Author: Muslim men (They) don’t mind if their lady was out shopping on Chand Raat till midnight, but will raise their brows quizzically if she says “I want to go for Eid namaz”.

    I wonder why?Recommend

  • Rabia

    its quite common for women to say their Eid prayers at the mosque in Australia, the US and England. Its a great communal experience, and its sad we dont’ in PakistanRecommend

  • Parvez

    Nice subject, nicely written.
    I’m glad you cleared up one possible misconception in the minds of some people, that may be it’s the religion that frowns on women praying.
    On the subject of following tradition blindly, which holds good for men as well, you could not have been more correct.
    Recommend

  • Mr and mrs muqeem

    V agree with coments of lolo fully.as it is a fact that v r the blind folowers of traaditions.Recommend

  • Muhammed Usama Aziz

    @ALL:
    It is no issue for women to pray in Masjid but they cannot pray SIDE BY SIDE. There has to be a SECLUDED area for them in which they can pray. Those who have any argument, please refer to shariah before commenting. Recommend

  • csmann

    Are mullahas and taliban ready for this?Recommend

  • ManChala

    Girls going for eid namaz. This will be a great incentive for boys to attend mosques.Recommend

  • Tauba Tauba

    Girls going to mosques for prayers. Nauoozbilla, mosques will become place for dating.Recommend

  • ModiFied

    Contrary to this Its Hindu women who outnumber men as far as temple visits are concerned. In Hinduism no ritual is complete unless wife is also a part of it. Recommend

  • x

    Very well written! I will inshAllah go for eid namaaz,take my sisters and encourage my friends to do so as well. Recommend

  • iLoveU

    welcome , everybody saying welcome
    welcome, welcome, welcomeRecommend

  • Ch. Allah Daad

    Since my childhood I saw my mother and other women going to mosque for Eid prayer. In our village and in many villages around it, separate places were reserved for women. First time I found out that women were not allowed to go to mosques was in big cities and that too women of educated, middle class families. Unfortunately this disease of gender segregation is creeping in villages too where women used to work in fields and could go for Eid prayer. Recommend

  • Insaan

    @Rabia:

    One Muslim woman in West Virginia, USA launched a campaign demanding that women be allowed to pray with men in the main sanctuary, instead of being segregated in an upstairs balcony where a waist-high wall blocks their view of the imam. After months of angry words, letters to the editor, demonstrations, and a petition drive to expel her from the mosque, she was grudgingly granted access in June 2004.Recommend

  • Insaan

    @ManChala:
    Girls going for eid namaz. This will be a great incentive for boys to attend mosques.

    Boys won’t be able to concentrate on Namaz, their minds will be thinking SOME THING else, that is the main point. Even older men don’t want women covered in burqa in the mosque.

    A man has hard times connecting with GOD if young women are in the proximity.Recommend

  • Insaan

    @Rabia: ……Eid prayers at the mosque in Australia, the US and England. Its a great communal experience, and its sad we dont’ in Pakistan

    Muslim women enjoy lot more freedom in these countries. Most Muslim women don’t wear of burqa or niqab in these countries and no one bothers them. Muslim women even in burqa get sexually harassed, touched, groped in crowded buses, markets in countries like Pakistan.Recommend

  • Azim Rehman

    @ all
    Good job , you all express your opinion generally and casually but we all have to consult with mufti and aalim for the same and if he advise something then we have to follow as per shariah.

    If our islam gives us permission then no one can stop women for doing prayer and be imam for us.Recommend

  • Raj Kafir

    Are Pakistani women ready to go for Eid namaz? I heard there no discrimination against women in Islam.Recommend

  • Huma

    I am a woman and I dont like going to the mosque for namaz. I prefer saying my prayers at home, with no distractions. My experience in mosques in north america have been a noisy affair with kids running around the place.. I miss the spiritual connection with god which I can get at my home.

    Having said that, I feel women should have a choice – mosque or home. I would choose home as that is how I grew up doing so in Pakistan and I am most comfortable with.Recommend

  • Pappu

    OMG, so many ladies at one place…i am sure everyone is aware of the consequences. Recommend

  • Tippu

    Ladies/ Girls will be indulged in gossip after prayers. Recommend

  • ManChala

    @Insaan: I missed to put “wink’ at the end.Recommend

  • http://nazarbaaz.blogspot.com Kashif Ajmal Malik

    @@Hina Khan,
    @faiza jamal,
    @Muhammad Shahid Malik,
    @Ghaffar Soomro,
    @abdul rafay
    There is no point in arguing with, rather I suggest you revisit your basic understanding of your Religion Islam, which is already untrue, falsified, and primarily wrong or may be you do not have any understanding of Islam. Not everything can always be connected to women’s rights.
    Or is it that all the people who know it are dead?
    @Raj Kafir I appreciate your knowledge, which is strangely in contrast with that of our Muslim friends.
    Actually its about our culture and enough budget for Women’ prayer room additionally, there are mosques in pakistan, having space for women like Faisal Mosque. and when they go for taraweeh, then why not eid, it shows there is room in our society for women to pray in their prayer room at mosques and has nothing to do with WOMEN’S RIGHT.
    In the UAE, All the mosques have separate room for women and I would again stress our culture doesnt have any permanent room for women but its not related to WOME’S RIGHTS.Recommend

  • AK

    Hey Girls!

    why just Imam, what about a female moaazn for Azaan/Iqaamat ….Recommend

  • http://nazarbaaz.blogspot.com Kashif Ajmal Malik

    @All, Some people always try to trigger the dialogue and pump the innocent people with very low level understanding, not even knowing about the fundamentals of Islam, to use against their religion. We need to be careful about any obligation our constitution and religion may put upon us in case of crossing the limits of Freedom provided by law maker and care taker institutions. For example, if you comment against Supreme court, you can be held for “Contempt of Court” even in India and UK since both share the same origins of law. So again, think before you leap and do not poke your nose in everything saying Women’s rights. Thanks a lot. Recommend

  • Khalid

    It might be OK in other countries but sorry to say – not in Pakistan, instead of being places for prayer Mosques will become dating scenes like many dargahs in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Insaan

    @Kashif Ajmal Malik: In the UAE, All the mosques have separate room for women and I would again stress our culture doesnt have any permanent room for women but its not related to WOMEN’S RIGHTS.

    That is the same thing as having a separate mosque.
    What is the main reason for not allowing women to pray in mosque with men by the side?
    Do men forget about God and start thinking about women?Recommend

  • Tammy

    @Hina Khan:

    Its not a matter of inferiority. That’s modern bogus. The real matter is that while women should be allowed in the mosques, like here in Canada, the rooms should always be seperate for women and men.
    Recommend

  • Tammy

    @Muhammed Usama Aziz:

    Finally someone understands. Recommend

  • Tammy

    @ManChala:

    I don’t supposed me telling you you are a pervy-minded narcissistic would lead you to a better place, which most refer to as school?

    No? Well, I tried.Recommend

  • http://nazarbaaz.blogspot.com Kashif Ajmal Malik

    @Insaan: You can read this article to know about your question: http://islamqa.info/en/79122
    Everything your tiny mind may ask for, shall not become a rule buddy. About Islam, I would request you to please learn some basics or may be read the translation of a few chapters in Hindi , English or whichever language do you understand. You are most welcome to discuss. Thanks. Recommend

  • Waqas

    Although majority mosques do not offer the facility of separate areas for women, there are many mosques that do. We should opt for those. And for everyone’s knowledge, specially those who are talking about gender bias and religion…. according to Islam, every female should go for Eid namaz, even if she is menstruating. She will just listen to the lecture and participate in dua but will not offer prayer.
    That is why we should ask the administration of local mosque to provide us this facility or opt for the mosques which offer one. May Allah ta-ala help us in understanding the true teachings of Islam. amen.Recommend

  • KAY

    @ Kashif Amjad Malik:
    Men/ Women go together in a church/ temple/ synagogue etc etc for prayers without any problem. I believe this issue is still unsolved ( like many many other issues) because men are not ready to RESPECT female in a worshipping place as a mosque.Recommend

  • http://nazarbaaz.blogspot.com Kashif Ajmal Malik

    @KAY: Sir, Islam is different religion than Christianity and you can see the differences in Muslim and Non Muslim society because of the social interaction of opposite sexes. I wonder do you really ignore the media with 200 Million pages updated every day (and learn only to ridicule and exaggerate the facts sir)? I mean the internet. Information is available at your finger tips and who is stopping you to research about Islam for which you are so much curious to know that I think you do not do anything else, which is good, but if and only if you want to prolong the argument, poke fun on Islam to tease people (I am not among those), exaggerate and ignore the facts, neglect the ground realities, tease the innocents coming to the social media (to learn something ) . with inter religion differences, then with due respect, you are way beyond learning anything. I would just blame the error to the author for being irresponsible, attention conscious, irrespective interpreter and manipulator of facts and figures and providing a wrong, diluted, saturated picture to the world about what she believes. Recommend

  • http://nazarbaaz.blogspot.com Kashif Ajmal Malik

    @Everyone, who is making it a fun to poke and grab other people’ intention to the slightly less important topic like the author, I would like to suggest, Pakistan has not the highest number of Women’ rights violation, it doesnt have the Rape capital anywhere like Delhi, It doesnt have DevaDasis married with Goddes Yellamma like that in India, We dont give 100 tola Gold, a Maruti suzuki, a home and/land to get our girls married as they do in India, so where is the women’s rights violation like that of our Neighbor. People who are frustrated about this issue, must find some fact in their own country first. We are far better and give a lot of protection to our girls, give them share in land and home, and take care of them at every stage of their lives but yes we also have wolves wandering around so if we leave our ladies alone, they will hurt them as they do in many other westernized countries. With apologies to author, you have triggered the discussion only to increase the number of comments, right? Reply if you can please. Recommend

  • Gp65

    Nice blog where I learnt something. You have also motivated some of the women readers here to go to the mosque for Eid namaaz – good for you and them.

    @Ahmed:
    @Muhammed Usama Aziz:
    @Khalid:
    @Tammy:

    Can you please explain why a segregated area is needed for the women? After all there is no such restriction in church or temple or gurudwara.

    Even if culturally it is preferred that men and women congregate separately (like one observes even in desi social gatherings), why not one side of the mosque be reserved for women and other for men. Why does it have to be outright segregated rooms.

    This is not a sarcastic question. I really would like to understand.

    Of course if women like @Huma would like to pray in their home, that is of course their own choice and should be respected. But it seems like a shame to deny the choice to go to the mosque for namaaz for women which some others have explained is permitted in Islam- simply because heir masjid does not have a segregated area. Recommend

  • KAY

    @Kashif Ajmal Malik:
    There is nothing personal but i am interested to know that why muslim men cannot RESPECT women in a worship place (and therefore they are not allowed to pray together with men) like non-muslims?Recommend

  • http://nazarbaaz.blogspot.com Kashif Ajmal Malik

    @KAY: I am more interested to give you the reason but evidently, first of all, you have many questions since you are completely unaware of the facts about Islam and its social system. Second, may I know whats your real intention? To prolong or to understand? Third, I think you are just teasing the folks here because of your ill mannered use of words, reluctance to advance towards any kind of research, disability to respect people and religions and additionally, interestingly I am not aware what faith and country do you belong to so that I can figure out how to answer your questions and what makes you so curious about Islam? makes sense budd? Recommend

  • KAY

    @Kashif Ajmal Malik:
    Without judging my intentions can you please inform why muslim men would not RESPECT women inside a mosque? There must be a reason for that. Being a muslim, what does your research says?Recommend

  • http://nazarbaaz.blogspot.com Kashif Ajmal Malik

    @KAY: I need to know your intention and identity brother and whats the reason you are hiding it? If you are really serious in knowing about My religion, Dear fellow, I invite you to join me at kashifajmalik@gmail.com, kashifajmalmalik@skype and lets start discussing the beautiful life style of Islam. I hope ALLAH Will show you the right path that you desire,where, my duty is only and only to pass the knowledge to you, regardless of how you react. Your reaction will not make any difference for me or anyone else. Recommend

  • Syeda

    Alhamdulillah in my hospital where i worked as a Dietitian has a separate MASJID for females. Having separate masjid for females has now started in my city and i am really happy for this initiating step. Recommend

  • KAY

    @Kashif Ajmal Malik:
    “my duty is only and only to pass the knowledge to you”
    You have not passed any knowledge until now for a very simple question. You are only blaming my intentions and want to know my identity. Honestly, i am scared. Perhaps scaring people is paramount in your “beautiful life style”. Recommend

  • http://nazarbaaz.blogspot.com Kashif Ajmal Malik

    @KAY: My conclusion about you. You are surely a Non Muslim. Second Your intention is to tease me and everyone else. Third, you do not wish to learn anything even by yourself. I want to initiate the discussion but first your identity :) You have my IDs, you can contact me anytime, wouldnt like to bombard people’ inboxes for your infantile comments. Thanks.
    @Syeda: Good one but its not suitable for person above :) Additionally it shows there is no such thing as happens in other countries bordering Pakistan, like Afghanistan, India and the occupied and disputed Kashmir where Women’ and Human’ rights violation is Wreaking, every 22 minutes a rape case is registered making it 23000+ a year but sad and interestingly, our own sources like make the mountains out of mole just to get eyed upon. Recommend

  • Nobody

    @Kashif Ajmal Malik
    You sir are delusional. You’re a perfect example of a deluded Muslim man who thinks this oppression of women in almost EVERY single Muslim majority country (and many other non-Muslim ones mind you) is “protection” and “respect” when in reality it is misogyny, oppression, patriarchy and the insecurity and illiteracy of men (and women) in it’s most regressive form. Please don’t think you are fooling anyone into believing the beautiful life style of Islam. The religion may be beautiful but many of its followers surely are NOT. It has become synonymous with sexism, illiteracy, violence and patriarchy. I’m not interested in an argument; you’re entitled to your opinion as I’m entitled to mine. Cheers.

    P.S. I happen to think ‘KAY’ brings up a good point. Recommend

  • http://nazarbaaz.blogspot.com Kashif Ajmal Malik

    @Nobody: :) How can I discuss anything with a nobody, kay and abc and xyz? Show your IDs first as a proof of your actuality, faith and nationality if you are someone with opinion otherwise dont wastes your time here, come and chat with me on MY GIVEN IDs brother/sister xyz. Thanks. Recommend

  • Game Over

    @Kashif Ajmal Malik: You cannot answer a simple question. Recommend

  • http://nazarbaaz.blogspot.com Kashif Ajmal Malik

    @Game Over: haha i love the spirit. move on boyRecommend

  • Game Over

    @Nobody:
    @KAY:
    Muslim men do not have control over there instincts, also they consider women inferior, thats why they will never allow women to pray with them in a mosque unlike non muslims.Recommend

  • Zeus

    @Kashif Ajmal Malik: That is the real spirit. You are telling others to move on but not ready to take a step forward. May God help you to seek the truth.Recommend

  • http://www.pltacademy.com Travel_Tart

    Women do go for Friday prayers from what I have seen. Why not for Eid prayer?
    .
    Your question should have been about Imamat by women in 21st century!Recommend

  • KB

    How did the women in picture get the whole Mosque to herself Recommend

  • Insaan

    @Tammy: the rooms should always be seperate for women and men

    Why?Recommend

  • Em

    @abdul rafay:
    It seems from your comment that you are not familiar with Islamic rules. First and foremost, I would like to bring your attention to this little fact that there is no religion, state or place in this world except Islam that gives women her dignity, respect and rights that she deserves. Making her an imaan doesn’t account for liberating her or making her less inferior or anything of that sort. That is not her job. That is not her requirement. She deserves respect, honor, fulfillment of her rights.
    There is no difference between men and women as far as their relationship to God is concerned. Both are equal before God and they both are accountable before Him. Women, like men, are commanded to worship God, and both are promised the same rewards and punishments according to their intention and conduct.Recommend

  • Em

    @Irfan khattak:
    I think it has more to do with the general trend of women not attending the eid’s namaz and the space not been then assigned for women’s praying area in the masjid. Example, for Fridays, I used to go with my family for the prayer, my mother and grandmother, slowly, that lessened due to work and college timings. The men would not find space in the masjid and the women’s area would be empty. Nearly. So ultimately, the separators were completely removed and reserved only for the men.
    But it is the same masjid; taraweeh and eid’s prayers are held where space for the women is reserved because women come and attend it. I do too.

    In Islam, the men of the house can not stop the women from attending the salaat for eid in the masjid because women have as much of a right to attend it as the men do.

    And good article. It is true, the eid ki namaaz brings out the best of the day. My eid is incomplete without it. I meet all my neighbors on a prestigious day, we stand together, again, shoulder to shoulder and unite. It is lovely, yes.Recommend

  • Tammy

    @Gp65:

    I understand, this isn’t segregation. Segregation is put in place when one is found to be superior to another.

    Frankly speaking, (I hope I don’t bruise any mans ego) women are held in higher esteem. Any one who thinks differently is delusional.

    If we were to put both males and females in the same room, first off the place of religion would be more that of a social scene.

    At the teenage age, teens notice the opposite gender more.

    The separation is put into place so the people there stay to pray and not to interact socially. Girls would spend more time putting on make up and the like then actually praying if men were present. And then, they’d worry more about their butt looking to big while bending down to pray then actually doing it.

    For the boys and men, both, (age doesn’t change their thoughts) their eyes won’t stay down. In modern culture they look at girls like they are their own personal play things, so a bit of privacy and separation is required. Recommend

  • http://nazarbaaz.blogspot.com Kashif Ajmal Malik

    @Tammy: I also know all this but honestly, this person will come up with more arguments :) Check. Additionally, If he was here to learn something, i gave him my contact but nooo… not to this day,,, he/she didnt add me. Close!Recommend

  • kashif

    What a paradox that women in non Muslim countries go to mosques not only for Eid but also for other prayers but in the Islamic Republic they do not or cannot do so.

    The point is that in our society women are considered still only for kitchen, bedroom and machine for fabricating children nothing more than that. Women themselves are responsible for their this state of affairs. If they start meaningful efforts for their rights, nobody will dare to stop them from having their rights as equal human beings.Recommend

  • Insaan

    @Tammy: “For the boys and men, both, (age doesn’t change their thoughts) their eyes won’t stay down. In modern culture they look at girls like they are their own personal play things, so a bit of privacy and separation is required.”

    In the mosque men have a choice to pray and think about God or look at girls. Men should be able to control themselves for few minutes just to respect God.

    It is a shame that Muslim men look at Muslim girls like their own personal property. Nothing to do with modern culture, that is the main reason Muslims in many countries force their women to wear burqa and religious police is used to keep men and women separate.Recommend

  • Insaan

    @Kashif Ajmal Malik: If he was here to learn something, i gave him my contact but nooo… not to this day,,, he/she didnt add me. Close!

    Why can’t you share what you have to say right here? Recommend