Thank you for inviting us, India

Published: November 3, 2012
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I want to thank India for taking that first step, that most difficult decision, to tell the terrorists to their face that they refuse to let them hold billions of people hostage to their ideology of hate. PHOTO: AFP

It’s official: the most exciting cricket series of the year will kick off on December 25, when arch-rivals Pakistan and India meet in a Twenty20 International match in Bangalore.

Promptly, and almost expectedly, chief of Shiv Sena, India’s equivalent of Pakistan’s assorted anti-India groups, Bal Thackeray came out with an asinine statement calling the Board of Control for Cricket in India’s invitation to the Pakistan cricket team a matter of “national shame”.

For me, his statement has done little more than set the stage for a series I have craved since Pak-India ties came to an abrupt halt in 2007.

But my worry extends beyond Shiv Sena. Following the Mumbai attack of November 2008, it’s not just the crazies on both sides of the border who have opposed a resumption of Pak-India ties – cricketing and otherwise.

When speculations first surfaced that Pakistan may be touring India, veteran cricketer Sunil Gavaskar – who has always expressed open appreciation for Pakistani talent – had opposed the decision. As a Mumbaiker, he said, he was hurt by the BCCI’s decision to revive India-Pakistan cricket ties despite what he called Pakistan’s non-cooperation in the probe into the Mumbai attacks, which killed 166 people, most of them Indians. Pakistani national Ajmal Kasab has been sentenced to death for his involvement in the attack and is waiting on the Indian president’s decision on his appeal for clemency.

I remember that statement vividly, because as a Pakistani and a cricket fan, it had hurt me. But as a supporter of peace and non-expansionist foreign policy, I agreed with him. And with every Indian citizen who feels that way.

I hang my head in shame.

In such a situation, I wouldn’t be surprised if Pakistani players feel a little more than unwelcome on Indian soil. As a citizen of a country where terrorists from various nationalities seem to feel at home and where they violate territorial sovereignty at will, I can feel the Indians’ pain perhaps with more clarity than they think many Pakistanis can. It is never a good feeling to see the piece of earth from where you derive your identity soaked in the blood of its own people.

This is why, I want to thank India. I want to thank the BCCI and I want to thank every single Indian government official who was involved in making this tour possible. I want to thank them for at least trying to overcome their absolutely legitimate anger over the Mumbai atrocity and their disappointment with Pakistan. I want to thank the Indian cricket team for finally upholding the spirit of cricket.

And, most of all, I want to thank India for taking that first step, that most difficult decision, to tell the terrorists to their face that they refuse to let them hold billions of people hostage to their ideology of hate.

As the newly-appointed Indian external affairs minister Salman Khurshid put it,

“It is a conflict (deadlock over the Mumbai attack) on which there must be delivery of expectations that we have but we don’t want the clock to come to a standstill, clock does move forward…”

I have never been one to buy into the ‘it’s a South Asian victory’ view, but in this series, the victor will truly be the two nations who have remained estranged for way too long.

Let the games begin!

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Zainab Imam

A journalist, on a hiatus to pursue a Masters in Public Policy at The University of Chicago. Gender parity advocate, urban policy enthusiast. She tweets @zainabimam (twitter.com/zainabimam) and blogs at gulaabjamun.wordpress.com

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  • https://twitter.com/Pugnate Noman Ansari

    Ahhh people are going to hate me for this. But if Indian citizens had broken into my country, and killed people, and attacked prominent hotels, I wouldn’t want their team invited here either. Recommend

  • BlackJack

    Thank you – it’s nice to know that people like you exist on the other side, along with those who are going to attack this blog as a shameful capitulation to an eternal foe, some with very creative arguments. I doff my hat to your courage.Recommend

  • badnoc

    I am not surprised by Shiv Sena’s or Bal Thackery’s threat because, they have always been doing this, in the past their activists dug up the pitch in Mumbai as a protest and even poured diesel oil on the pitch in New Delhi. The tour continued despite threats. I am surprised at Sunil Gavaskar and his hypocricies. In the past Gavaskar used to pretend as if he is a supporter of Pakistan team (Remember 1992 WC). But now he has openly opposed the tour on the pretext that he is Mumbaikar! Which shows that regional interest supercedes the national interest.

    People don’t change their views over-night, I am sure Gavaskar had this venom inside him and he spat it out now. Reportedly Kapil Dev has also joined the bandwagon to oppose Pakistan’s tour to India. What a shame these are the two ex-greats of India and they will definitely influence others with their malice and biases. It will be a real shame if the tour is canceled because of them. There are hundreds of millions of people who are very keen and anxious to see the two countries resume playing cricket ties. It would be a good beginning if it happens and, as cricket lovers we all are hoping and praying that the tour should be on.Recommend

  • Aire

    Zainab, your acknowledgement of the pain inflicted on the 26th of Nov. means a lot. Thank you.

    I can still recall being up all night watching the gruesome violence being played out some miles away from my home and then venturing out to work the next morning while the gun battle was still raging. It was unreal and filled me with inexplicable anger.

    Years later, I have two colleagues of Pakistani descent here in US whom I share a great rapport and friendship.

    The anger has subsided but not the demand for accountability and the prosecution of the masterminds. Hence, as a sign of protest I will not be watching the matches. I owe to least that to my city folks who lost their lives.

    A MumbaikarRecommend

  • Hurted Indian

    THANK YOU: ha….so easy isn’t it…two English words… But it may offend you if I say; to keep those words with you… I am not against you and peace seeking people of Pakistan, but how many of you really want this? Say about 1%.. Remaining 99% of your country?? Full of hatemongers, traitor politicians, backstabbers, terrorist manufacturing factory owners,oh sorry if that word TERRORIST hurts you..Freedom fighters, jeehadists…what you ppl call…
    Just by hanging your head down, feeling sorry,
    You won’t feel the pain of mumbaikars, u just can’t..
    I really like to see Pakistan to be filled with people like you…in near future… But until then, we don’t want any ties with pak…
    Playing cricket will never improve ties bw two counties, it will only send back stabbers in the form of 5000 spectators,who knows, how many of them will really come to see cricket and how many to BOMB our land…
    Sorry, it’s a bad desicion by our sick government….Recommend

  • rajesh

    @Noman Ansari:
    Yes I am 100% agreed with you. Indian Govt. actual do not represent the indian. You know this current govt. got around overall 23% vote in last general election and a coalition govt. so how they can represent 100% indians point of view. I truely believe in democracy but this is a set back for democracy.The paki should not be welcome in india till they do not stop support terrorism. more then 50% of paki still support taliban and some other organisations those are responsible for terrorist. Recommend

  • Parvez

    Very nicely argued and the first comment made by Noman Ansari makes complete sense.Recommend

  • Infedel

    Dear External minister, Salman kurshid, ur highness, don’t worry the clock will move on… But don’t feel sorry if its once again stopped by our so called neighbors…
    India is proud to have you as ext minister…Recommend

  • http://Www.google.com Saeed swabi

    And you dont dare to say that international cricket ban on pakistan is imposed by indian terrorists,you author,yes we did raid mumbai and much more but they (indians) are innocent angels who even fear to cut a cow down least a human.
    They consider us friends but this we stupids put them as enemies.
    And for kashmir,why dont you say,is their “atoot-ang.”Recommend

  • Shabbir

    Even today, more than half of Pakistan thinks that the Mumbai massacre was staged. They view India (Hindus) as being weak. ‘Vegetarians’. They think we can kick India in the gut and the Indians will continue to take the abuse with a smile.

    After Kargil, where India lost more than 500 soldiers, Pakistan did not apologize. Its ‘educated class’ did not feel embarrassed. And when India discontinued relations and cricketing ties with us, that is when Pakistan woke up to bash the ‘unfriendly’ Hindustanis. After a few years of being mad at us, India gave in and resumed ties.

    The Mumbai massacre is now repeating in exact same manner. In the eyes of the Pakistanis, India is taking ‘advantage’ of the situation and stringing along the issue for bad publicity for Pakistan. Why can’t it just let go again and take it with a smile like it always does? Yes, it was our Army and ISI and Hafeez and our madrassas that produce the terrorists … but what do I have to do directly with it?

    The Pakistani ‘educated class’ refuses to own up the deeds of the Taliban and other extremists – all of them who have hijacked our religion and have made Pakistan synonymous with terrorism and made us look as idiots. But when the world starts reacting to us by singling us out in Airport queues for security checking or denying us visas or stop playing with us in sports ….. WE GET MIGHTY UPSET. Recommend

  • http://India vasan

    With the current attitude and hatred among most of the Pakistanis towards India(hindus, I dont know why they want to identify India with hindus when there are millions of people of other religion around), with the current unextinguished anger among Indians about mumbai, this cricket tour by pakis is unwarranted. IPL kind of treatment will be the right one. I hope this tour gets cancelled on one pretext or another.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com Anoop

    Well, you have melted many Indian hearts with this. Cheers.

    Hope you guys have a nice time.Recommend

  • BRUISED INDIAN

    Am gonna take a long vacation, take a flight back to India and befriend some Pakistanis from Pakistan. I feel Pakistani ‘expats’ are not the real deal in the region where I am currently based.
    @Noman: Would you be visiting to watch the series? We could probably catch up and throw back a few beers budd… Recommend

  • BRUISED INDIAN

    @Shabbir: I dont give a flying frog if people call Hindus weak just cause we prefer Vegetarian food…. I am sure if some meat eaters from Pakistan visit Delhi, we’ll make them eat Dal Makhani with Tandoori Roti or Tawa Bhindi / Baingan Bharta with Karare Paranthe or the amazing Rajasthani Thali with mirch ka achaar… (damn am salivating right now) they will surely not think of veggies in a negative light again! Hee Hee!

    AND NO, a sizeable percentage of Hindus do consume meat… Dilli will show you the “oye chicken chuken layio, oye” or the “oh yaar aaj toh kutte fail ho gaye (an acronym for anything awesome – restricted to Dehli yuppie culture), kyaaaa meat banaya hai by God yaar” . Recommend

  • joy

    @ author……Way to go…..Recommend

  • Nitish

    No comments from my side…..Recommend

  • Vinod Chhatani

    Good to see some sane voices at the other side of the border. Hope to see pakistani players in IPL next year.Recommend

  • http://Karachi Zaheer

    Thanking India for anything is difficult, so i want to thank Zainab for this blog. I want to second the writer that Indian government has given a right message to terrorists that they can no longer blackmail over a billion people.

    @Indian commentators here:

    Terrorists who killed innocent Indians are enemies of both of us. Lets support cricket, do trade, build strong economy and these people will die their own death in few years.Recommend

  • BlackJack

    @Zaheer:
    Dude – you have the right attitude but the wrong data points. The terrorists are both our enemies, but they are Pakistanis, and thus responsibility of the Pakistani state. You cannot imagine how irritating it is to hear the constant refrain from every single Pak dignitary claiming that you are the victims of terrorism as if the source is somewhere else. Recommend

  • Anonymous Indian

    Just offering thanks will not suffice Ms. Zainab. I hope this statement clarifies my thoughts on this India Pakistan series.Recommend

  • Ahmed

    Yes thanks for reneging on previously agreed tours of Pakistan, insulting our T20 World Cup winning stars in the IPL auction of 2009 and blatantly violating the agreed terms of the Future Tours Programme. We shall now make a statue of the BCCI and do puja in front of it.Recommend

  • badnoc

    @Hurted Indian: hey where exactly you got hurt? It seems like something crawled up and died there. Stop this “Paki-Bashing” and Muslim Terrorist chanting, stop generalizing and labeling ppl as terrorists. Before raising your dummy ‘Stats-Gun’ and shooting out % of how many ppl in Pakistan are terrorists, take a peep into your own backyard. There are Hindu Fundamentalists too and they terrorize Muslims and Christians, not only kill them but burn them alive in Churches, yes we do read all that news perhaps you ignore them. Instead of showing a positive attitude towards normalizing relationship between the two countries you are oozing out venom of hatred. If you try to show this Shiv Sena and Thackery kinda attitude things will never be normal. After all Indian and, Pakistani Muslims & Hindus co-exist peacefully outside their countries and maitain cordial relationship. My next door neighbour is a Hindu Bengali family and we enjoy excellent friendly relationship invite them over and enjoy each others food and respect cultural values and religion.

    Those who hate ppl on religious grounds are very few and they are not just in Pakistan but, in India too. So, cut the crap and don’t add fuel to the fire by digging up old graves, Think fresh, let the new generation decide how to co-exist peacefully. Recommend

  • Parvez

    @Anoop: What a brilliant comment and it means a lot coming from you my friend. Cheers !Recommend

  • Ahmed

    To all the young ones especially Indians commenting here..please don’t be a hostage to history or events that can’t be attributed to entire populations eg Mumbai.. Like on anything else of the 200 million Pakistanis a majority would unconditionally abhor Mumbai and lament the fact that murderers were Pakistani ..a huge proportion would sidestep the issue citing Gujarat etc..the remaining idiots would be hate spewing bigots negating anything rational and accepting no responsibility…Pakistan is evolving there is a huge number of people questioning the history ….. The only way for these people to multiply across both sides of the border is through people to people contact ..showing each side the human face….or let the hate mongers on each side succeed…as they say “Milnay do”Recommend

  • Sudheer

    Well, dear lady, I must confess that I have mellowed down a little ,perhaps more than a little, after reading your opinion piece. I was with Bal Thackeray (I hate him) on this issue, simply because it made no sense to host a Pakistani sports team in India while you guys are still busy defending and providing safe heavens to the barbarous murderers of 26/11. I am still unhappy about it. You must always remember that we Indians are never ever going to forget or forgive the perpetrators of the Mumbai carnage.
    But, having said that, I must also confess that there are good people out there like you, who even if being fair minded, are in fact helpless. You can understand our pain, which reflected in your article, but, helpless in doing anything to change the overall mindset of your country.
    After reading your writeup it came to my mind that we Indians should support Pakistanis like you, who are the only hope left for Pakistan, hence, thumbs up for Indo- Pak Cric Series.
    Let’s enjoy the forthcoming matches. Say hurray to love and peace!Recommend

  • gp65

    Thank you for understanding how we feel. Though I am in favor of this series, h wounds of 26/11 are deliberately being inflamed by HAfiz Saeed arrogantly giving hate speeches in Rawalpindi and Islamabad instead of being aggressively prosecuted.Recommend

  • David

    @badnoc
    “There are hundreds of millions of people who are very keen and anxious to see the two countries resume playing cricket ties. ”

    Equally there are millions of people who are interested in not seeing in Pakistani team in Indian soil. Recommend

  • http://India Feroz

    Bal Thackeray is a regional bigot. He wants all Bihari’s, UP bhaiyas and Tamils thrown out of Mumbai. To expect him to welcome Pakistani players with roses and garlands would be absurd.The less attention he is paid the better for all. It must however be borne in mind that many Foreigners are gravitating to India as there are no jobs in their country. Indians will also welcome Pakistani sportsmen, artists and businessmen as long as there is no terrorist sent from there.
    Pakistan must jettison the fake pride and honour, religious rigidities and warped ideologies holding it back, so it can join other countries in their endeavour for Peace, Happiness and Progress. Recommend

  • Another Pakistani

    Thats a nice gesture but people who talk about Mumbai attacks usually forget the Samjhota Express bombings when our citizens were burnt alive in India. Still the Pakistan cricket team toured India the same year after 8 months.

    Mumbai bombigs were an awful affair but countries move on, just like we did after 1971, 1984 and 2007. Both monetory and non monetory benefits in peace outdo the same in war with mamoth numbers.As someone here says, its (still) the economy.Nothing to be emotional about it !Recommend

  • http://gujrat Zalim singh

    you are welcome.Recommend

  • Anonymous Indian

    @Another Pakistani.

    If you are not aware, the culprits of Samjhauta express have been put behind bars unlike yours where the culprits of the Mumbai carnage are roaming freely in your country and giving hate speeches. How can we Indians move on if the perpetrators of 26/11 are roaming freely in your God forsaken country??????? Unless and until they are brought to justice, the majority of Indians will always have a critical outlook as far as Pakistan is concerned. If your establishment (ISI and the like) takes the step of preventing the breeding of terrorists and letting them loose in India, then we can have normal country to country relations, which includes sports. Until then, do not expect us to mollycoddle you when the rest of the world have already woken up to the realities that Pakistan is offering. Recommend

  • Hurted Indian

    @badnoc:
    There are Hindu Fundamentalists too and they terrorize Muslims and Christians, not only kill them but burn them alive in Churches, yes we do read all that news perhaps you ignore them

    yes these people are in my back yard..where i have said i support them, i hate them as much you do…i dont like killing innocent human beigns…whether they belong to hindu, muslim, christian, or an x religion…but i like you to realize that ‘there is no smoke without fire‘…one group of people simply dont come and attack one another…by saying this am i not defending them…nor this topic of inter-religious fight within our country…i was upto bashing the neighbouring country’s people who attacked my fellow indians…i am not concernd about their religion….but i am concernd about their nationality…hope u got the point…

    After all Indian and, Pakistani Muslims & Hindus co-exist peacefully outside their countries and maitain cordial relationship:
    brother, its only outside their repective country….and am proud to say in INDIA TOO…if you agree or disagree…just look at the census…its 1.87% hindus in pakistan from 10% during partition…where as 10% population of muslims in indian during partition…to nearly 15% now..[am sorry if am wrong with numbers, but its approx] …..u can decide which country has inter religious harmony/respect for each other….Recommend

  • Umair

    @ Author:
    Please understand that cricket and politics are two different things. These should be treated in different ways. Steps taken by India after 2008 attack regarding cricket; were very self-indulgent despite of fact that there was an investigation being carried out on government level. Even Pakistani media was quick enough to accept everything without government report. But still India not only refused to play against Pakistan but also tried to isolate Pakistan from cricket playing nations. This is something like you refrained using other banking operations/functions because on some day you couldn’t withdraw money from ATM due to some error. Now take the example of attack on Sri Lankan team. Did Sri Lankan govt. behave like Indian govt.? Did they refuse to play against Pakistan in neutral venue? Did they avoid Pakistani players to play in their league matches? Answer is big “NO” because in most parts of world; democratic & cricket relationships are treated in separate ways. Recommend

  • ethicalman

    from me ..I say no to Pakistani’s not just the cricket team..but all of you…

    because i have to live to the reputation that the author has said “Promptly, and almost expectedly, chief of Shiv Sena, India’s equivalent of Pakistan’s assorted anti-India groups”

    I want to be the Pakistani equivalent anti India group..because I want these kind of groups in India..cause i have not seen any..

    Bala Saheb’s party is a regional party it’s represtation in Indian Parliament is not even 1 % but still because you wanted a balance approach (otherwise you have to create an anti pakistani group which would have been much worse because I know Pakistani imagnation is way off the reality..of this world..)..so you put it as anti Pakistan group.. fine..

    @Noman Ansari …I appreciate that..Recommend

  • Prerna

    @Shabbir: The barabarian culture that believes that compassion for the weak and the defenceless is somehow a sign of cowardice is still the culture of the intellectually inferior people of this planet.Great kindness requires great courage,but I doubt that these people have the intellect to understand an idea so complex.

    @Bruised Indian:You started strong in your rebuttal to Shabbir,and ended up lamely in trying to show what great meat-eaters Indians are.

    Vegetarianism is uniquely Indian – it is so unique,so exclusively Indian that if we lose that which sets us apart from all the cultures of this planet,I doubt there will be anything left to feel proud about in being Indian.Recommend

  • http://www.apnidharti.com alina

    you are welcome.Recommend

  • whaaa

    @Prerna:

    Vegetarianism is uniquely Indian – it is so unique,so exclusively Indian that if we lose that which sets us apart from all the cultures of this planet,I doubt there will be anything left to feel proud about in being Indian.

    whaaa ?????????? Is vegetarianism the only thing that sets us apart from other cultures ? And if “we were to lose vegetarianism, there won’t be anything left to feel proud about in being Indian ? ” I am an Indian and vegetarianism is NOT what makes my heart swell with pride about being Indian. This was the most ridiculous statement i’ve read in a long time.Recommend

  • http://[email protected] Hamza A Khan

    If we had been denied entry or games in India, let no Indian forget that we have always welcomed you guys too – so please do not take this to be the first gesture of good will; we have always extended such gestures.

    Your Kabaddi team is in Pakistan these days if I’m following sport correct. So its a two-way traffic buddies, no need to ‘mellow’ down as so many indians have put it, you can easily burn in your own hate for all I, or most of Pakistan cares.

    Friendship, or political terms are always 2-way traffic and this time its not any different. So all this profuse thanking is a bit reduntant. Recommend

  • BlackJack

    @Prerna:
    @whaaa:
    I would probably opt for a middle ground between the two of you. Naturally vegetarianism is not what defines Indian-ness – that would be a bit too exclusive for my liking – and to imagine that this is what sets us apart from other cultures on the planet ignores so many aspects of our history and the deep philosophical foundations on which the edifice has been built; further, it is important to note that vegetarianism actually spread in the post-Buddha era and was not widespread during the proto-Vedic period. At the same time, I am inclined to agree with @Prerna in that vegetarianism has been an important aspect in developing such a diverse and rich cuisine comprised of vegetables; there are vegetarians in many countries but their choices are so much more limited than for those in India. Second, Ayurveda (and Nyaya/ Sankhya streams of philosophy) also connect meat consumption (along with onion/ garlic/ asafoetida) with rajas/ tamas gunas leading to loss of equilibrium – although I cannot comment with any authority on this but find it interesting that we identified these triggers so long back.Recommend

  • Prerna

    @whaa

    Can you list for me the things that India and only India has thought of?

    When I talk of Vegetarianism,I am referring to the philosophical principle that underlies it ; and which has given birth to most of what India is known for – be it the zero (and hence it’s achievements in mathematics),yoga,pantheism,tolerance,the equality of all life-forms.

    All that is left is chess that still survives; and the metallurgical science( that gave us the Iron Pillar of Delhi) which does not survive.

    So,now can you list for me the things that India and only India has thought of? I feel mostly ashamed ( apart from the Vegetarian-Ahimsa-Zero part) when I say I am Indian,so help me out,and make my heart too” swell with pride about being Indian”Recommend

  • Mariah

    Just one cricket invitation and ultra liberals licking the feet of the Indians. The author probably is unaware of the fact that the Indians denied playing Pakistan for years in Sharjah and elsewhere as well, long before any Mumbai sort of attack or even before the Kashmir insurgency. Secondly SHiv Sena has been threatening us since the 90’s and we have not been allowed to land in Mumbai for decades. I am glad to know the author has so much sympathy for the Mumbai victims. But probably some sympathy should also be given to the victims of attacks orchestrated by the grace of Indian consulates in Afghanistan. (Ooops What a sin I have committed .how can the secular generous Bharat Mahaan even think of any misdoings. I must have provoked the atheist Express Tribune by my conspiracy theory mindset). Recommend

  • Gratgy

    @Author,
    We did not invite you, our government did….we have to something about our government in the next election.Recommend

  • Gratgy

    @Mariah

    Pretty creative with facts eh??

    The author probably is unaware of the fact that the Indians denied playing Pakistan for years in Sharjah and elsewhere as well, long before any Mumbai sort of attack or even before the Kashmir insurgency

    Kashmir insurgency started in 1989, Sharjah was banned for being a match fixing hub in 2003. The father-in-law of your Javed Miandad is the main reason for Sharjah getting a ban. Poof! there goes your logic out of the window

    But probably some sympathy should also be given to the victims of attacks orchestrated by the grace of Indian consulates in Afghanistan.

    Another favorite piece of BS by Jehadis without any backing or proof whatsoever offered by the Pakistani government. Just throw up random statements in the Air. No one in the world believes you anyway.Recommend

  • Mariah

    @Gratgy currently India is the biggest match-fixing hub with even the IPL not spared by it. I think all the teams should stop coming to India as well. As far as the Indian consulates are concerned, any Indian would be the last person on earth whose testimony I will require to validate my point of view. PEACERecommend

  • gp65

    @Mariah: “But probably some sympathy should also be given to the victims of attacks orchestrated by the grace of Indian consulates in Afghanistan.”

    Mariah, India has exactly 5 consulates/embassies in Afghanstan in the exact same cities that Pakistan has its consilates and embassies (Kabul, HErat, Jalalabad,Kandahar and Mazhar-e-Sharif). http://embassy.goabroad.com/embassies-in/afghanistan

    So if Indian embassies are so successful in using their premises in creating mayhem in Pakistan, what are the Pakistani embassies in the very same cities doing? Or is it that your best in class ISI is not so good after all?Recommend

  • goose

    Our Indian government must explain why they have changed their stance on resumption of cricket ties with Pakistan – the ties were broken off stating Pakistan’s refusal to acknowledge and cooperate with the investigations into the Mumbai 2008 terror attacks – have they cooperated now? No, they are still denying everything and calling it staged – then why did the Indian Government change their stand? I, for one, never support snapping sports ties on such issues – so either the government’s first decision was wrong, in which case the Indian Government should say so so we citizens know what to expect from them in terms of policy or, if the government still stands by the policy of snapping all sporting ties in the wake of such terror attacks, then again the big question – WHAT HAS MADE THEM CHANGE THEIR STAND NOW? Till I get an answer, no watching the matches for me and I shall also be spreading the message to as many as I can. Indians are supposed to take all b$#%%%*%$ from Pakistan with a smile – not this time round. Indians, please start a mass movement through the Internet, on public forums, wherever you can so we can get as many Indians as is possible to cooperate in this.

    PS: I would love the day the USA begins trading, military and sporting ties with Al Qaeda – that probably ain’t happening because Al Qaeda killed Americans, right? And normally, when a group kills our people, we don’t go all lovey dovey with them, right? But not India, a country ruled by the ‘Khangress’ as the Congress should be known.Recommend

  • abdul rashid behlim

    Hate, Hate and Hate that is only on our minds, revenge has become the order of the day . India was ruled by Muslims for an estimated period of 1000 years and all the communities lived in peace and harmony. Presently a set of people or some segments are playing the blame game and happily enchasing the miseries and we fools are left to comments and give our intellectual views. Pakistan and India cricket is not a courtesy or friendship gesture shown by both parties it is going to be billions of dollar racket starting from India and covering the whole world where ever we Pakis and Indian exist and unfortunately we exist in each and every part of the world, so you all please go on commenting and *let them make money and instead of thanking India we should devoutly thank those people who are going to be behind running this racket.*Recommend

  • Nitish

    @abdul rashid behlim: India was ruled by Muslims for an estimated period of 1000 years and all the communities lived in peace and harmony
    No not at all.Actually Hindus were harassed and enslaved.The Fact is all muslim rulers were humanity killer. They plundered,killed thousands and finally forcibly converted many hindus of india.Otherwise there would not have been a pakistan and bangladesh.Recommend

  • Freedom of Speech

    @Noman Ansari:
    nobdy would.Recommend

  • Arjun

    @abdul rashid behlim:
    Your commenst do not support the reality-the violence that is Pakistan. And No muslims did not rule India for 1000 years except in your dreams!!!!Recommend

  • abdul rashid behlim

    @Arjun:
    Well Mr. Arjun facts cannot be changed read the history and you will know the facts about Muslim rule. Books of Histories in India only talks about Akbar and the rest of the muslim ruleres have been given the worst ratings. Islam entered through Sindh and Coastal areas. I really wished that the Moghuls could have taken the pain of spreading Islam but they were only after Jodha Bhai and Ashwariya Rai. The Fact is if these Muslim rulers were only bothered about their wealth and kingdom like presently we see in the GCC countries. So the fact is no forcible converting Hindus of India took place Otherwise there would not be a single Gangoo Raaam all would have been Mohammad. Recommend

  • http://India vasan

    abdul rashid behlim :
    The muslims/moghals came into India via Sind and coast, agreed, only to loot and rape and forcibly convert. History is the proof for that. What u have not mentioned is that the brave warriors of maratha, hindu punjabis, south indians etc etc resisted the moghal rule and muslim rule and never allowed the muslims to rule complete India ever. Therefore, fortunately, there are good many number of gangarams and not all Mohammads in India now. Thank God, we would also have gone the Taliban ways, otherwise.Recommend

  • Gratgy

    @Mariah

    As far as the Indian consulates are concerned, any Indian would be the last person on earth whose testimony I will require to validate my point of view.

    Did I ask you for an Indians testimony, I asked you for any credible international sources? or do you mean only Indian sources are credible??

    Ma’am your slip is showing and your propoganda effort has holes large enough to ride horses throughRecommend

  • badnoc

    @ abdul rashid behlim and @Arjun BOTH.

    Abdul Rashid is almost right in saying 1000 years, coz the Mamluks started ruling India since the 9th century they were slaves who converted into Islam, then we know the Aibaks, or Qutub uddin Aibak from the Slave Dynasty. Unfortunately most Indians know Qutub Minar only. And, that is because the Indian School Textbooks upto grade 10th have systematically removed the Islamic History from the syllabus. This is so obvious when we read it on Wikipedia and, how history is being rewritten by the Indians.

    Supria Roy Chaudhary an Indian Journalist wrote in The Daily Hindu, how the textbooks in India have removed the name of Nathu Ram Godse (Gandhi’s Assassin) from the textbooks and only mention that “A bad man killed Gandhi.” She asked the authorities why they feel ashamed to say that a Hindu killed Gandhi?

    Also, I want to correct Abdul Rashid’s perception that, there was NO Joda Bai or NO Jodha Akbar in real. She is a fictional creation by the Rajput Hindu historians who wanted to glorify and fancify themselves with the Moghul Dynasty. It was further popularized by Moghul-e-Azam and Jodha Akbar movies, only to give a secular touch to the Indian politics and fool the masses.

    Reportedly in India, there are only 3 greats in Indian history, Asoka The Great, to please Hindus, Akbar the Great, to please the Muslims and they went one step ahead by digging up a 300 BC old grave of Alexander the Great to please the Indian Christians. “Amar, Akbar & Anthony” and Mukhadar Ka Sikander, the bollywood blasphemies.

    Back to Jodha Bai, Abul Fazal one of the nine jewels of Akbar’s royal court wrote Akbarnama and in the original volumes 1 & 2, in Aainae-Akbari also, which our family has a copy, there is NO mention of any Jodha Bai, except for one an Armenian woman called, YODA and she is mentioned elsewhere in history books. However, this Jodha Bai is a creation of Colonel Tod, a Britisher in his book “Annals and Antiquity of Rajasthan” mentioned her, and the Rajput historians propagated it only to glorify their own status and to make Akbar look like a secular playboy who married so many Hindu women and followed Din-e-Ilahi a new religion that he reportedly created.

    It is time for the younger generations of Muslims in Pakistan as well as in India, to read the old history books rather than relying on “Wiki-Mata” and Bollywood movies.Recommend

  • abdul rashid behlim

    @badnoc:
    Thanks Recommend

  • Nitish

    @badnoc: Abdul Rashid is almost right in saying 1000 years, coz the Mamluks started ruling India since the 9th century they were slaves who converted into Islam, then we know the Aibaks, or Qutub uddin Aibak from the Slave Dynasty. Unfortunately most Indians know Qutub Minar only. And, that is because the Indian School Textbooks upto grade 10th have systematically removed the Islamic History from the syllabus. This is so obvious when we read it on Wikipedia and, how history is being rewritten by the Indian
    You r wrong.Mughal history is removed from indian book syllabus(recently) coz to establish communal harmony b/w indian citizen.Fact is mughal history was rubbish and nothing worthful to read.Till my time (i m 19) mughal history was deeply taught in secondary school syllabus.I have thorough knowledge of slave dynasty,tughals,khiljis,Gauri,Bin quasims,abdalis etc etc.Indian book syllabus was censored properly so that we can get proper knowledge of our history at the same time it should not create hatred among us.But how can one hide the fact that how somenath was looted,how babri was created,how jaziya was employed ,how hindu rulers were killed.What mughal rulers built even toilet is well taught to us..Perhaps you people should read history book properly.A part from Maurya dynasty,many other hindu ruled dynasty were golden era for Aryavart.Mughals actually ruled for 500 yrs 1200-1700ad.The number 1000yrs is exaggerated . After yr1700 britishars ruled over united india.Though our book blame britishars for attrocities.but it was british which brought many reform in our society.Some of them r Abolition of Sati pratha , widow remarriage,education for women and women empowerment,Tea,cricket,train,english medium for education.Only thing they couldnt remove was untouchability which is still prevalent in our society…perhaps coz of rigid caste system and brahmins monopoly. Plus Alexandar was never glorified in the history book.
    Supria Roy Chaudhary an Indian Journalist wrote in The Daily Hindu, how the textbooks in India have removed the name of Nathu Ram Godse (Gandhi’s Assassin) from the textbooks and only mention that “A bad man killed Gandhi.” She asked the authorities why they feel ashamed to say that a Hindu killed Gandhi
    Nathu ram godse was the killer of gandhi…is well written in the text book.Infact even some documentary was made upon assassination of gandhi and was shown on DD national.how one can hide this fact.Even 5 yrs kid in india can tell you about this fact.But gandhi was killed for right or wrong reason is still debatable.For me he was rightly killed.
    So my friend you need to read the history well.Dont delude yourself that we dont know about history well.Recommend

  • Hurted Indian

    @badnoc: Indian School Textbooks upto grade 10th have systematically removed the Islamic History from the syllabus.
    oh brother, which school did you studied in india? histroy was part of social studies subject in high school…and more than half histroy taught us, INDIAN RULERS and foriegn invaders from MUGHALS/ASHOKA/ALEXANDER…. as ur amar akbar anthony concept….and wait, even now my neighbour children studies the same….

    India have removed the name of Nathu Ram Godse (Gandhi’s Assassin) from the textbooks and only mention that “A bad man killed Gandhi.” She asked the authorities why they feel ashamed to say that a Hindu killed Gandhi?
    every kid, in india knows who killed gandhi…[and they know why aslo….]and they arent ashamed of him because he was a hindu….there are many movies depicting the same, ‘HEY RAM” kamal hasan’s movie…if i tell this, u may giggle, but hindus as whole arent ashamed to call a BAD MAN, as BAD, they arent bothered about godse being hindu or some ‘X’ religion…for us he was a culprit and will be culprit….

    Also, I want to correct Abdul Rashid’s perception that, there was NO Joda Bai or NO Jodha Akbar in real. She is a fictional creation by the Rajput Hindu historians who wanted to glorify and fancify themselves with the Moghul Dynasty

    i would be very happy if its true…ur islam only dosent allow to marry mushriks isnt it…
    and for god sake, rajput historians would be ashamed to glorify themselves associating some fictional characters to akbar..who again apparently was an invader, atleast i like him, because he was secular, invented new secular religion…and i am sure he would have faced many fatwas for this…[sic]Recommend

  • badnoc

    @vasan: LOL, there you go, once again Islamophobia at its best by our so-called humble neighbours. Vasan please read history and remember the whole world has been like this since 300 BC i.e., when Alexander marched from the West into the East. Countries used to invade other countries and this is how they used to live. Conquerors like Alexander, Genghis Khan, Kublai Khan, Taimur Lang, Mahmud Ghazni (or Ghaznawi) were ONLY invaders, looters and plunderers.

    Whereas, the rest of the so-called Muslim invaders starting from the 9th century i.e., the slave dynasty were rulers, the Aibaks, the Tughlakhs, the Khiljees and the Moghuls, they ruled the country from the 8th century till the 19th century (1857), that was the trend, the basis of survival and growth. There is a lot of positive contribution by these Muslim rulers, and they did not spread Islam with the sword, had they done that, today there would have been only one religion in the sub-continent and i.e., Islam. They used many peaceful ways to make people believe and there is no compulsion in Islam. They were not forced to convert, all that is there is mere propaganda and exaggerated news from one or two isolated cases.

    Now, here is the interesting part which neither the Indian Hindus nor the British historians comment on how the British came to India as disguised businessmen by establishing East India Company? And then, how they played this religion card ~ prior to that Hindus & Muslims co-existed very peacefully by accepting each others rights ~ It was during the British Raj and prior to their getting control over the whole country they started this “Divide & Rule” policy by pitching Hindus against Muslims and viceversa and succeeded.

    The irony is, no one ever bats an eyelid or says against them. Obviously the British historians will never say or write against their own country but, the Indian Hindus or even Sikhs don’t mention or speak against the British atrocities during their rule especially the massacre at Jhalian Wala Bagh and how Bhagat Singh was killed or, how the father of Peer Pagara was killed? Both were killed by the British charging them as traitors, an act of treason. Treason to defend their own country?

    If you stop hating people on the basis of caste, colour and creed only then you will see the truth, right now most of us are biased and hatred is imbued in our psyche. Its about time to stop this biases and hatred towards each other. Why not keep this rivalry only at the cricket grounds? Remember this game belonged to the British Lords only and now it is our game its more like a religion to many. We have defeated them many times even in their own backyard so lets do the same in every other aspect of life, and we are capable of doing that. The first step is to clean our own heart and our mind and I am including myself in it.Recommend

  • Nitish

    ET where is my comment.Publish it pl .I m waiting.Recommend

  • Prerna

    @badnoc:
    Can we have the Armenian names of Raja Todar Mal and Man Singh too?

    The secular Indian is thoroughly disappointed with the creative skills of this chap, Colonel Todd, and with the Rajputs for making do with just one fictional Rajput princess.Why create just one ,when there could have been six fictional Rajput princesses– one for each of the Mughal emperors that mattered.

    If I may be allowed to add to your already great knowledge.The Jesuits at Akbar’s court who talk of inter-faith gatherings held by Akbar ,and say that he renounced Islam in his later years are fictional characters too.They were created by Nehru ,and the Jesuit records were actually written by Mountbatten at the behest of Nehru to strengthen secular India.

    As for “Reportedly in India, …they went one step ahead by digging up a 300 BC old grave of Alexander the Great to please the Indian Christians. “

    Now that sounds like a truly grand idea, only that there is one grave flaw with this brilliant scheme –Alexander was born more than 300 years before Christ, so well …

    Anyhow, do keep these funny stories coming – for who doesn’t like funny stories.Recommend

  • Muhammad A. Tirmazi

    I agree with @Noman Ansari, It’s pretty shameful how Pakistan seems to be a state-sponsor of terrorism, especially in India. The so-called “Jihadists” have killed thousands of innocent people on both sides. We really don’t deserve their forgiveness, but as Mark Twain said:

    Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it.

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  • Sohail

    Well, I appreciate the resumption of series b/w Pak-India. But I am not agree with author of he paying so much thanks to India. The Mumbai atrocity is individual act not government policy. To boycott a nation with one individual act is not good response. If you boycott nation with individual acts it mean you supporting the militants and this is the aim of the militants to detract the two countries from closing to each other.Recommend