An American in Lahore: Pakistan saved me

Published: February 23, 2012

I cannot readily and honestly answer that coming to Pakistan drastically changed my opinion of the country—you see, it was never negative in the first place. PHOTO: AFP

I cannot readily and honestly answer that coming to Pakistan drastically changed my opinion of the country—you see, it was never negative in the first place. PHOTO: AFP

About a year and a half ago, I made the decision to move to Pakistan.  Since then, perhaps the most popular question my local friends ask is, “Were you scared to come to Pakistan, because you thought we were all terrorists like the Western media portrays us?”

Honestly, no, I was not, and I did not.  Even before coming to Pakistan, I found the notion that all 180 million people residing in Pakistan, the sixth most populous nation in the world, were terrorists or had extremist tendencies completely ridiculous.  I figured that, as in every country, Pakistan had people from all walks of life with different creeds, hopes and dreams, opinions, and lifestyles.

So, in that sense, coming to Pakistan did not significantly alter my perception of the country.

What coming to Pakistan did for me, though, was much, much more: it changed my outlook on life and on myself—and for the better.  In short, it made me a better person.

For example, before coming to Pakistan, I was a very anxious person—always worried about the little things that could go wrong each day.  To avoid these, I planned each day down to the minute: at eight fifteen and not a minute later, I would wake up; at exactly eight twenty, I would shower and be done by exactly eight thirty-five, and the list went on until bedtime, at which point I would plan the next day.  It was exhausting, but I felt I had to do it.

It is easy to lead this kind of lifestyle in the US, as we are a nation that tends to keep planners, schedule meetings and strive to always be prompt.  But, it was not necessarily the best lifestyle for me: I grew anxious easily, especially if things went a little off schedule, and at the mere age of twenty-three, I was diagnosed with all kinds of health problems.

Pakistani society tends to be a little more lenient with time.  Meeting a colleague “at two o’clock” often means leaving one’s home at two to head to the meeting (as opposed to arriving at two).  I found that almost everything here is at least a little late, from PIA flights to the rail garee to business meetings.  More than once I received a text from a friend saying that he/she was held up and would arrive later than our scheduled meeting time.

At first, I hated this attitude towards time.  It was so incompatible with beliefs I grew up with—that stress paired with hard work and strict punctuality were necessary ingredients for success.  How could anything get done in this country, I asked myself in frustration.

But, you know what I soon learned?  Everything hojaygah.  Everything somehow falls into place in Pakistan.  PIA flights take off, rail garee’s arrive, friends meet, and business projects succeed.

As time went by, I also learned that things often run better with less scheduling, with less planning for what-if’s that rarely materialize, and with less worrying.  Thus, I began adopting what I call the “hojayagah” attitude: fretting less and having more faith that everything will work out.

And, this is exactly what I love about this country: people here do work hard, but they also stress less.  Things do get done, but on their own time.  In the meantime, araam say.  Fiker na karo. Hojaygah.

I recently visited three of my doctors in the US, and reports show that my health problems have either stabilized or gotten significantly better.  How?  Simple.  Since coming to Pakistan, I have learned to stress less and enjoy life more.  But, that is not to say I was not productive this past year: working with my Pakistani colleagues, I successfully completed many projects and so have quite a bit to put on my resume.  I just did it the hojaygah way this time.

So, to answer my friends’ questions: No.  I cannot readily and honestly answer that coming to Pakistan drastically changed my opinion of the country—you see, it was never negative in the first place.

What I can say, though, and without even a moment of hesitation or doubt, is this: coming to Pakistan saved my life.  I cannot even imagine what kind of anxiety-induced health problems I would have now, had it not been for my learning to live life the Pakistani way, the hojaygah way.


Elisa Dun

A recent graduate from Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service who is currently living in Lahore, Pakistan.

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Hamood

    @Elisa, its good to know that your health has improved since your move to Lahore. Western media has a bias and they have made up their mind about never reporting anything positive coming out of Pakistan. You and I and millions of others who have actually been to Pakistan know well that its not all bad.Recommend

  • Pakistani Agnostic

    This was hilarious. Good Job!
    Although i am curious to know what would be your reaction if you meet locals in Arab countries!
    As the popular joke says
    Motto for a Japanese
    If everyone else can do it, i will do it and if nobody else does it, i must do it
    Motto for an Arab
    If everyone else can do it, they should do it and if nobody can do it then why should i do it

  • Zaid Hamid

    Now it is high time that you convert to Islam. And you will be peaceful.Recommend

  • Kakapataka

    Elisa, Welcome!
    Loved the article…………..
    I need to move back from the US like today!Recommend

  • Mustafa Moiz

    But why did you come to Pakistan in the first place?Recommend

  • http://NewYork Falcon

    First of all I am glad you are enjoying your stay in your country. I love your hojaayega attitude. Sometimes we learn to live life in the thickest of unpredictability.
    Lastly, thanks for believing in us!Recommend

  • sylmarkhan

    Very thought provoking article. People should not judge the way others portray.
    Pakistan will get new life once we clean up this mess we started. once new government who works for people can change. Once we eliminate higher class to equal status. Once people don’t pass in front of others to get ahead of line.
    Pakistan and world both need to change for better communication & understand. it is better than fighting mind wars that go no where.
    People stop looking afghanistan in pakistan, it is not possible.

    people who have worst opinion of pakistan don’t see the real pakistan. Hey everyone gets good days and bad. it is time we really see what is true than from what is fake.

    Unless we give better understanding.

    why afghans immigrate to pakistan for better life? why indians see pakistan as the enemy not one’s unwarranted pride for the blame of misery that falls indians arrogance?
    Who is watching pakistan fight this mennace & give hope & strength in th days to come?

    I don’t want to come back once i visit pakistan. When we have enough of US life it is better to switch just to relax.
    We will never have chance of enjoying other world where it is shining while america is sleeping.Recommend

  • Maria

    As an expat Pakistani, I feel exactly the same away. With all its faults and crazy issues it still somehow manages to make ME a better person each time I visit though for not the same reason :-). Lack of punctuality still drives me crazy!Recommend

  • lubna

    A little bit of hojaega may be good for you, but don’t overdo it!Recommend

  • Ali Tanoli

    Well united states helped these socalled Treerists from 1979 to 1989 it means u.s.a is also terorist??????
    and not even one highjacker was pakistani then why we becomes secrificed lamb and biggest
    problem is our crupt leaderships allways chaploose ……… chachey mamey.Recommend

  • Cynical

    Three cheers to the author!
    Hope one day all Americans become Pakistanized.
    And no drones, all aid.Recommend

  • Anoop

    Now I understand why the Taliban menace is spreading in Pakistan. Hojaygaa attitude at work?Recommend

  • Rajesh

    Kind of reminds me of India…everything somehow falls into place…:-)Recommend

  • Baqar

    @ Zaid Hamid…. Please respect every religion and get a lifeRecommend

  • Haris Javed

    Although your opinion wasn’t negative at first,
    but i believe even if that were the case, it would had changed by your personal visit!!
    because we are not that much bad as depicted by western(controlled)media.. .
    + that HOJAYEGA *thing* really added sugar in above piece :)Recommend

  • SaQiB

    Lolz…………………… Now you’re talking!! I like your attitude……… am always late and am one of the most frequent users of the term hojaygah… n u know what? it always works for me………. :-DRecommend

  • osama

    We are the best nation having the best country in the world and we are not terrorists.Recommend

  • Fatima Batool

    Love it Elisa! It was great having you here! All the best cuz ‘sab acha hojayga’ :)Recommend

  • Shahbaz

    Its a beautiful country with a wrong perception in the west…..we are peace loving nation. Recommend

  • Ali

    Eline….whenever i start loosing hope in myown country….a piece like this pops up from u or someone else…!!!! Hope…!!!!Recommend

  • mangobug

    @Zaid Hamid:
    Actions are stronger than words, make them feel different about your religion and Allah SWT would guide them towards you.Recommend

  • Zaki

    @Zaid Hamid:

    Please …….. Recommend

  • wardah

    very much glad to read ur comments ….:) n was impressed the very first day i saw u with couple of friends at alhamra on LUMS”chalo chalo america chalo” drama…i wondered why ur studying over here since u can have so much better opportunities abroad…now perhaps i got the answer:)Recommend

  • Asif

    Dear Anoop:

    First you experience then remark. I love Pakistan. I refused my immigration to live here. I have lived in two of the most dangerous (according to western media) and poorest countries in the World. And I loved every minute of it. Beautiful people with very big hearts. I wish people stop believing in western media and experience themselves.Recommend

  • wardah

    very much glad to read ur comments Elisa:) n i was impressed the first day i saw u with couple of ur friends at alhamra LUMS theatre “chalo chalo america chalo” play n i was like…..why she is studying here in Pakistan since u can have much better opportunities abroad…but guess now i got answer to my question :)Recommend

  • Yoda

    Unfortunately, while the hojaygah attitude might be great in personal and business engagements–on a national scale it’s nothing but detrimental. I know I know, I’m misinterpreting the intent of the article and I too am frustrated with the strict emphasis on organisation, punctuality and order in the United States but if we imitate that emphasis at least in the upper echelons of our governmental institutions–we’ll be much better off. Recommend

  • omer

    Elisa thankyou for this article.
    It was such a pleasure to read!Recommend

  • Reema

    Great Article. =)Recommend

  • Reema

    Lahore Lahore Hai! :)Recommend

  • Parvez

    Ahhh ! an American who decided to ‘go slumming’ in Pakistan …….enjoy.
    If you go anywhere you will find both good and bad, it all depends on how you chose to look at it.Recommend

  • Anon.

    Cute article. Everyone including my own Pakistani parents think Pakistan has gone to the dogs and is a warzone, but when I actually go back to visit my cousins and friends they seem so chilled out and carefree. The hojaigah mentality is integral to every Pakistan as well as Allah par Chordiya ( I leave it to God for the best) which makes us so resilient in the face of times.Recommend

  • Amer

    A good piece to read..thank God ET has some Pak lovers too..n Elisa thanks for all ur good words for Pakistan..good luckRecommend

  • http://Karachi Saif

    @ All Pakistanis,
    Rejoice! For we are THAT lazy!! :DRecommend

  • Salman Ilyas

    Hmmmm.. Needs to change some thing here.. In my opinion Govt Servants and Elite Class is lazy.. the middle class has always act on time… Yes for personal matter Hojaye Ga… If it is not our problem..:)Recommend

  • sajid

    Dear , Complete your sentence …e.g.(please…… shut up!)….Recommend

  • Dost Mohammad

    Great Article. You go girl!! Please become muslim girl so we can marry and live happy happy after forever.

    About me:
    I’m not going to change the way I look or the way I feel to conform to anything. I’ve always been a freak. So I’ve been a freak all my life and I have to live with that, you know. I’m one of those people.Recommend

  • Fraz

    Zaid Hamid, Do you have any —— left ?Recommend

  • Shugufta Chandio VII

    Dil wala dhulaniyaan la jaain geRecommend

  • Sid

    Can totally co-relate to this, after working six year in London I learnt that it is better to live life while you are young and not waiting for retirement. The best decision I ever made.Recommend

  • Adnan Kayani

    Lovely article thumbs up, totally agreed :) Recommend

  • Faisal

    It is always comforting/encouraging to find a happy foreigner in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Ali

    well, I am not going to thank you for the this piece. As you have just started undoing what has been done by many others on your part of the world. It hurts though but then “What do I care” :PRecommend

  • JS

    @Zaid Hamid…you should be banned from expressing these 1980’s style, zia-inspired, myopic, and shallow statements in a place where adults and civilized people are having a discussion…. Recommend

  • Optimist

    @Zaid Hamid:

    Do mention that you are being sarcastic and making fun of Zaid
    Our American guest might take you seriously!Recommend

  • Optimist

    While I am in favour of punctuality, I like Pakistani style of working hard with least stress.
    Even in the UK, I find Pakistani and Indians to be ‘no nonsense’ workers. They just do things quickly in a competent way. While many other communities throw common sense out of the window and focus on anything but the real task (too many irrelevant and unnecessary rules)!Recommend

  • Ali

    @Zaid Hamid:
    i m a muslim and alot of us are…rather 90% of us are…wat doe that mean..?? evry one has to b a muslim to live happily./…??? Religion is some one’s very personnel problem…y dont people like you understand that….u live in a state of paranoia …. u think the world has to b at war every time…evry minute…only then u ll b at peace….!!!!!Recommend

  • citizen

    @Anoop: Get a life.
    it was a light hearted piece of writing . Where did the taliban come from? Pakistani people are equally intelligent , competent as compared to people of any other nation. They don’t follow ” hojae ga “attitude in a sense you are imagining .Recommend

  • Meera aur Reema

    We moving to Amreeka, you moving to Paakastan! Haa hai, sadqaay jaawaan!

    Welcome, welcome, and thank you.Recommend

  • Aamir Ali Chaudhary

    Dear fellow Pakistanis . i would like to say that Pakistan is the only country which will survive after all Look at the past and present , everything is screwed up , mughals came , they spent spent spent and spent , still had lot , then Farangis (Britisher) invaded stole almost everything this place had.even the KOHINOOR ..we still had lot . and then since Pakistan came into existence we never had a loyal government , everyone just looted looted and looted and still they are , Alhumdulillah we still have lot… i m not denying the problems we are facing these days but its just temporary , as soon as we get rid of this government and get out of this so called war on terror , we will be just fine . thats what i believe ….Pakistan Zindabad Pakistan Paindabad Recommend

  • Amjad

    @Zaid Hamid: I ca’t understand why Indians like you want to mock a good story but it shows your obsession with Pakistan. I have seen your comments posted under this name on many articles and you never miss a chance to badmouth Pakistan. If you really care for your India, work to help the poor there but you do India no honour by constantly making odd comments on Pakistani news sites. As for this woman who has found herself in Pakistan, I am glad she is enjoying the beauty of Pakistan and the good it has to offer. Maybe I could be a cynic and say she is having a great time because she is in Lahore or the Punjab which is the most stable place in Pakistan. The fact remains is that there is a lot to be celebrated in Pakistan and I thank you for pointing that out.Recommend

  • youth lahore

    Now u can say that all mean Pakistan is a peace full country and the perception of western media is all wrong .. dis is the real truth every pakistani knows truth Pakistan Zindabad..keep it up good jobRecommend

  • ukmuslim

    @Zaid Hamid:
    Reading all your one-liners and they are hilarious. Sad people don’t understand it.Recommend

  • Yasir Mehmood

    God forbid if you are in a medical emergency and your doctors have the hojaye ga attitude you can lose you life, seriously.Recommend

  • Mustafa

    I was tickled to read your article as it was as if I was writing my opinion. I have worked in Pakistan and now in USA as a physician. I definitely endorse this concept of a rat race in US for no particular reason, putting undue stress on things which we can do without. If it was for USA, people would like to have more than 24hrs in a day and will still not be satisfied. Yet there is a price which your correctly stated. I am seriously considering going back to a less stressful work life of the east. Best wishes for a stress free lifeRecommend

  • Tony C.

    I am told that I am obsessive compulsive, because I like everything very clean, tidy, just perfect, and drive everybody crazy. However, although nobody is perfect, I think I could get used to hojaygah. Alas, I do not think at 77 years of age I could leave my love ones to live in Pakistan, although the concept of doing so is very appealing. I was born well before the sub-continent of India/Pakistan achieved their independence from Britain, and perhaps due to Rudyard Kipling’s romantic version, I have always been fascinated at the thought of extensively touring the whole area from top to bottom. Of course, since Kipling’s children books I have read about Pakistan quite extensively and although in common with most other countries it is not perfect It is one of my favourites. I have noticed that many Pakistanis are critical of their country, and this may be a good thing, because it may give a spurt-on to get things going well. Unfortunately, not everybody will be able to buy a B.M.W. motor car, or any car at all, but I have found the important things are to have a loving family, a good education system, a hospital system that works, the ability to pay bills, and to eat well. Unfortunately, many people are finding this difficult, but I think Pakistan has the ability to improve. Perhaps hojaygah may have to drop out somewhat if great economic improvements are required quickly, but hopefully not altogether.Recommend

  • From Herat With Love

    … Cute … Recommend

  • MM

    I couldn’t agree more! I consider myself a Pakistani but was born and raised in America. It takes more than a few weeks to accept Pakistani society’s perception of time. I too felt anxious and frustrated when friends would arrive late – or not at all, or I’d show up on the dot for a workout class or appointment and end up having to wait. It forced me to relax and just enjoy the moment instead of planning too far ahead, but we do need to discipline ourselves more when it comes to necessary deadlines, formal appointments, and work schedules. It’s all about the moderate position! Neither extreme is ideal. Recommend

  • Zaid Hamid


    I do not intend to mock Pakistan or Pakistanis. I do not intend to mock Islam or Muslims.

    What I do intend to mock is hate-monger, ill-mouthed and eccentric people like Zaid Hamid and his followers.

    My comments annoy you, right? It is the same feeling one gets from the red-capped last-and-final-warning giver Zaid Hamid. Even more disturbing is that people follow him, adulate him. The best I can do is to make fun of him and his mind-set.

    Great khair is coming. Do tauba. Wear red cap.Recommend

  • http://alymer Sum Ting Wong

    Thank you Elisa Dunn!
    You should try out our chinese restaurant in Lahore. They are great, it remind you of your hometown food in USA.Recommend

  • Mehr

    @Zaid Hamid:

    Dude, seriously?Recommend

  • Hafiz

    Its really interesting to read this article. I think its not that Pakistan helped you in saving your life but I think, it is due to traveling and meeting people from different cultures. Because when you travel and meet people from different cultures and ideas, this broaden up your mind and add very valuable information and give you a chance to live a life different than yours but a much better one.Recommend

  • deedee

    this hojayega attitude my dear is WHY Pakistan is behind in everything today!!!this is why its such a lazy and unproductive qaum!
    cudnt tell if the author was serious or making fun out of the country.?!!!Recommend

  • Zohair

    i have gotten into trouble, at office, a couple of times due to this Hojayega approach :D…one of my managers hated this term as most of my answers about meeting deadlines was “Sir, hojayega” :DRecommend

  • Massi Musabtey

    Even Europe has laid back lifestyle compared to US.Recommend

  • AP

    The Hojayega attitude, something easily found in the sub-continent countries or where sub-continent people reside as expats, doesn’t mean work won’t be completed. It rather means that more time would be spent to do the same task (snail’s pace) than where punctuality exists which is why everything from studying for exams to changing mindsets, from improving the economy to progressing in almost anything and so on takes or will take longer and eventually reach some destination.

    The point about less stress is true in a way. I too feel less stressful back home but I believe this is only the case for short-terms stays and if you are in contact with right, positive people. When it comes to permanently residing in a country in the sub-continent, it’s a different ball game particularly for adult immigrants.

    What I mean to say is that an outsider’s experience with a society will always be different than to one’s experience within and only when one has stayed for many years as part of the society from within, like an anthropologist, can one have a true sense of what one’s experience points towards (positive/negative/unsure)Recommend

  • Saad Siddiqui

    @Zaid Hamid

    LOL :D @Elise , this “Zaid Hamid” guy is fake , Loved your article, you know we Pakistanis love to listen good things about out beloved land Recommend

  • Atif

    @zaid hamid

    I understand your feelings.. But unfortunately.. you are making yourself ridiculous.. serving no purpose…

    Infact a ‘Good Moderator’ would never allow irrelevant comments like these. But this is Pakistan for you.

    you said “The best I can do is to make fun of him and his mind-set.”, Wrong. you can make facebook page like ‘I hate zaid hamid’ and share your thoughts with other rather than ruining the good posts like this one.Recommend

  • abid

    Though Its not something we should proud of what you mentioned the most ‘HoJayega culture’. But in fact what intrigued me to comment on your piece of writing is the ‘positiveness’ you see in our attitude. If you see people ‘less stressed’ then dear its reason, (in my opinion) something else. That we are simply ‘human’ and there is SomeOne Who have all power to change the ‘worldly matters’ on His Own. We ‘human’ didn’t got control of this universe from that Almighty unlike thinking of some Super power minded people…..So why worry. why we feel stress for the things we cant control… therfore….. Sab Acha Hojayega… Insha Allah. Recommend

  • Cynical

    @Zaid Hamid

    Some of us understand and share your feeling and the frustration.In an open society you should expect some opposition to ‘what you say’ or ‘how you say’ or to both.That’s fine.Sometime they might have a point too.

    Personally I enjoy your one liners.Keep it up. Recommend

  • Hiba

    Elisa hon! =) Love your article. Glad to see someone with such a great optimistic view of our country =) Enjoy your stay! =)Recommend

  • Ali

    Loved it. Thanks :)Recommend

  • Shen

    I actually agree with parts of the article… but not all. You have to understand and accept that the West is really 200 yrs ahead of us, without the Hojaeyga attitude! In Pakistan, everything does happen in the end and fits in place but only for the Rich and the Middle Class people, not the poorer ones, who haven’t commented on this page primarily because they are either not educated to understand english, or are poor enough not to have technology at their fingertips, or don’t have the time to sit and use the internet because they are busy struggling to get food on the plate for their family. So as I said, Hojaeyga is valid for the ones for whom Hojata hai, not for the ones for whom Hona Mushkil Hota Hai. Blame the Pakistani mentality… our naturally inherited selfishness and corrupted mind is weakening our country and pushing us deeper in history while the world is “Punctually” planning for the future.Recommend

  • Imran Kamyana

    “It is no sign of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society”Recommend

  • Andrea

    Thanks for writing a piece about your good experience in Lahore. Yo have probably learned by now that Pakistani people like to exaggerate their own problems! I wish you continued fun and happiness in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Marwah


    You have no idea how proud this article of yours made me feel. Never has the faith in my people waned but your article has only strengthened my faith in my people, in myself. There is certainly a lot we can achieve but that we will do ‘Our’ way, the ‘Hojayega’ way as you say! =D
    Also, THANK YOU for choosing to share with everyone the story of your stay and its impact on your life. I hope it serves as an eye opener for those who are the victims of the western media bias :)Recommend

  • mashal

    No society or lifestyle in the world is ever completely perfect. Every way of life has its own benefits and problems. But what is required for improvement and development is a detailed analysis of why certain behaviors exist and what efforts could be made to enhance the good ones and curb the others. This blog post very much serves the purpose in terms of highlighting the benefits of a certain behavior or mind-set.
    I must say. Great work Elisa! As many have already mentioned, its really nice and heartening to read up on all the positive and memorable experiences you’ve had in Pakistan. Plus the way you have linked up those with the general attitude of Pakistani people is absolutely brilliant! Keep it up. :)Recommend

  • leila rage

    I’m glad that you like living here, and that you enjoy and appreciate lahore. But live here another 20 years and the hojaygah attitude will begin to get on your nerves, it’s good to be relaxed about things but most often this is far too overdone. Recommend

  • Bilafond

    @ ZAHID HAMID I think you are a Pakistani. Do you have anything else to do? Recommend

  • hamid

    @Zaid Hamid:
    yaaa.. and then become most intollerent towards minoritiesRecommend

  • http://Austin Hafeez

    I enjoyed this article thoroughly. To really have the feel of it, one has to experience both lifestyles, the western (USA) and the Pakistani. Whatever the author said totally makes sense. Thanks for such a great article and portraying a real and positive image of my country. Thanks a lot.Recommend

  • asdfd

    Nice article.Recommend

  • engr ishfaq qureshi wapda

    hope u fine dear.i feel happy that u live happy at ur country than before only due to attitude :ho jaega”if assignments done with little stress .nothing is better than hard and low stress is a key to success.i believe the person who is always working hard have a bit stress.laziness create stress.if someone like u working hard and instead of this he r she is feeling stress really a bad last i would like to say pakistanis r great in qualities but we need direction and discipline as well.any how thanks Recommend

  • Desi German

    My brief visits to Pak have shown me, that there is not much choice, you have to do things aram sey, as 18 out 24 hours per day there is no electricity. Which is evidently the foundation of any successful kaam. Recommend

  • Well wisher

    At last some Westerner who sees sense, Good on ya Eliza keep waving the flag girl!Recommend

  • Sara

    Hahaha! Great read! Love the title! :) And really glad to hear your perception was never negative in the first place! Hope you’ve made some really good friends here and will always have fond memories of Pakistan!…Oh, and spread the word about our good side as much as you can! We really need all the good PR we can get! Thanks a lot! :)Recommend

  • Tariq

    @Zaid Hamid:
    Peaceful and ready to kill anyone who disagree with you.Recommend

  • ARUZ

    Thats a wonderful piece of writing.

  • Wajiha Saqib

    This is certainly a very good article. It is not only that you have learnt from us, we have learnt a lot from you. In fact in this age of globalization the best thing is cultural exchange and we get to learn when we actually live in other countries.Recommend

  • Arslan

    Well procrastination has produced good results for me … and apart from that a little faith in the cosmos always lets things fall in the right place =)Recommend