Infinity and beyond: Space exploration for Pakistan

Published: February 18, 2012
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BADR-1 satellite was launched on 16 July 1990, from a Chinese launcher, the Long March 2E (LM-2E). PHOTO: SUPARCO.GOV.PK

July 21, 1969 was seen by many as the culmination of man’s evolution from a cave-inhabiting savage to an astronaut. That landing on the moon owed more to the imagination overdrive of the Western civilization than the technological advancements of the time. Looking at it from a purely economic point of view, it would be safe to say that space programs around the world have introduced spin-off technologies that have actually sped up human technological evolution and had a major impact on our daily lives.

Now let us descend from the lofty heights of the western civilisation’s achievements in space and have a look at our own space program. Having relatively encouraging beginnings, our national space program was the brain child of Dr Abdus Salaam and with our test two-stage space rocket firing on June 7, 1961, Pakistan became the third Asian country and the 10th in the world to achieve this milestone. And as time progressed, Pakistan launched a couple of satellites into space including Badr1, PakSat-1 and 1-R. Although it is commendable that we have at least a presence in space, our enthusiasm must not end here.

At present, it seems that SUPARCO, while functioning to meet standard requirements of remote sensing, mapping and satellite communications, is missing the fabled ‘spark’ that might make it an economic pillar of the country rather than being a docile space agency that relies on Chinese technology and launching sites to send a precious few satellites into space and renting already orbiting satellites ( like Pak Sat-1). Its budget is less than even Ukraine, Belgium or Iran’s space agencies and competition with India’s ISRO is hopelessly out of the question at the moment. Concerning space sciences, Karachi University’s space sciences institute ISPA is suffering from neglect, so much so that the class rooms have broken light bulbs, the whole facility is running on generators and the only “powerful” telescope provided is malfunctioning and hopelessly obsolete – I wish that was an exaggeration.

It seems that the government, corporate institutions and the common people have not yet fully realised the importance of space sciences for a country’s economy. An effective and active space program can help boost a country’s economy in more ways than anticipated. There are uses of space technology in agriculture, medicine, GPS, and many other areas. The enriched baby food used today owes its origins to NASA, from back in the days of the Apollo missions. It doesn’t take an economist to realise that the spin offs from space missions like the Apollo missions have resulted in the growth of several multi-billion dollar industries from which the USA has benefited incredibly. Scott Hubbard, former NASA scientist, now working at Stanford University, notes that for every 1 dollar invested in NASA projects $7-8 worth of goods are produced in the industry.

These are the facts that our nation needs to realise.

The future of earthlings lies out there in space. Now, one might argue that Pakistan already has enough expenses on its plate without adding space exploration expenditures to the list. However, if we don’t catch up with the changing times then we might be left woefully behind. India has already sent an unmanned spacecraft to the moon and is on its way to becoming a major space power, leaving Pakistan to squabble with the US and Afghanistan over petty issues and countering home grown fundamentalism.

The question is not about whether Pakistan should takes giant leaps in advancing its space program but about whether Pakistan would be economically able to stand in the comity of nations. Is our entrepreneurial spirit so dead that we can’t even imagine the possibility of Pakistan’s space age? Recently I wrote a blog about putting a Pakistani on the moon. Ludicrous though it sounds, the purpose of that article was to observe the imaginative power and the entrepreneurial zeal of my fellow Pakistani readers. Many blog sites in the Pakistani blogdom refused to even publish that (except for a couple). It makes me wonder if Jules Verne was denied publication rights to Journey to the Moon (a century before the Apollo missions) by the French, just because it was highly ludicrous. It is that imaginative power and spirit – not squabbling over vague religious doctrines – that propels nations to excel in economics, science and technology.

Currently the Pakistani space program comprises of:

– Satellite Development  Program Remote Sensing & GIS Applications,

-Space Science,

– Core Technologies Development,

– International Cooperation & Infrastructure Development.

The satellites that are in operation are Pak Sat-1, Pak Sat1-R, and the Badr Series satellites. Suparco has planned to launch an optical imagery satellite soon and a high resolution remote sensing satellite by the year 2014. These plans are integrated within the Space Program 2040, whose purpose is to present the full benefits of space technology to the nation. As commendable as these steps may be, an active effort still has to be made to make the public aware of these achievements. A crop of scientists and engineers has to be cultivated so that the future growth of Pakistani space program is not moribund. Since Suparco is still dependent on Chinese and Russian technology to develop satellite, communication and launch systems, to launch a truly indigenous satellite and space vehicle efforts have to be made to promote space technology in our schools, universities and colleges. If we can build sophisticated weapons of mass destruction, why not use the same technologies in areas of science and technology.

If there is a time for Pakistan to make a giant leap then now is that time. With a stagnant space administration, lack of education and research in space sciences, if we can overcome the institutional barriers to stop us from succeeding there is nothing to stop our minds.

If Pakistan is to survive for a thousand years then the time for developing a comprehensive space exploration strategy is now!

Jamaluddin

Jamaluddin

A student of Information Systems Management at Latrobe University, Melbourne. He tweets @Einsjam (twitter.com/Einsjam)

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Fahad Raza

    Man That is an excellent research Thank youRecommend

  • http://zaidzamanhamid.wordpress.com Zaid Hamid

    We guaranteed that Pakistanis will be on moon in 5 years. 3.5 years have already passed since then. We still have time. In next 1.5 years, we will send first Pakistani on moon.

    — Chacha Zaid HamidRecommend

  • http://pakistani-edu.blogspot.com Usman Shahid

    Space exploration for communication is entirely different from just making a trip to the moon.
    Jumping to invest to make trip to the moon on the cost of more poverty in the country is not a good advise. Recommend

  • Ali Sarwan

    Please correct mistake Paksat-1 was not launched by Pakistan, it was an Indonesian satellite which was declared unusable because of some technical problem. Later it was acquired by Pakistan.Recommend

  • Ahsan Khan

    At the moment the government is printing tens of millions of rupees a day to pay its own employees because no one is willing to lend them anymore. The Indan economy has doubled in size in the last decade while we have gone bankrupt. We need to get our basics right which would pave the way for the evolution of oppertunities.Recommend

  • http://space-exploration-for-pakistan Azaruddin

    We should not do everything India centric. Bangladesh, Ceylon, Nepal, Burma do not have space projects, yet they are not worried about India. There are many countries who offer satellites for hire. Pakistan require good roads, hospitals, schools, power projects and last but not the least a tolerant society. Recommend

  • Maqbool

    Not just the space science, in every field of modern science, Pakistan is lagging a century behind the developed world. Pakistan’s rulers (civilian or not civilian) are a group of visionless parasites and I am not at all optimistic about any scientific development in Pakistan.
    By the way, compared to your previous blog about “Brain Waste”, this blog is much better and objective. Recommend

  • Cynical

    The comparision with in India is a bit unfair.
    Among other things we have an added responsibilty of protection of the ummah, India doesn’t have any such baggage.

    But overall very well researched article.Thanks. Recommend

  • http://www.scribd.com/asifameer Asif

    A country where basic necessaries food, water and gas are out of a common man’s reach, these surely are lofty visions. I am not criticizing here. I am saying these goals come naturally after the basic needs have been met with. Soviet was a giant Industrial and Military power yet its citizens had to wait months to get supplies of toilet paper. A strong economy starts from the farms and farmers, a clean transparent financial system and an educated public to keep a constant vary eye even on the honest politicians. Its a long way to go for PakistanRecommend

  • Pakistani Agnostic

    There is no sense at all in spending money to go to moon till we fix our economic problems.
    However any space activity that enhances our economic growth should be encouragedRecommend

  • Atif

    @Zaid Hamid
    Dear lovely, adorable Indian .. can you please stop the nonsense..Recommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    @Ali Sarwan:
    The writer has mentioned that pak sat is a rented sat, read carefullt.

    By the way, another excellent piece by jamal sahab.first the brain waste article and now this, it seems u choose topica that nobody either wants to think about or write about or talk about. Good work, waiting for more.Recommend

  • Junaid Alam

    Few of those who are suggesting against any investments in the space programs know that SUPARCO is one of the few Public sector organizations that is earning net profits for the government. Moreover, the scope of space sciences is twofold: research and an expanded industrialization; so in the long run, it is an investment towards a better economy, if we are looking for it at all.

    Another correction: Paksat-1 was never declared unusable. it was acquired on lease to fill the orbit registered to Pakistan, or otherwise the license would’ve expired. Paksat-1 has provided communication services for over 10 years and has only recently been replaced by Paksat-1R on the completion of its designed lifetime.Recommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    @Azaruddin:
    Why not india cenyric, wasnt the us apollo program soviet centric? Every nation needs a rival as long as the rivalry is healthy and doesnt result in death and destructionRecommend

  • G. Din

    Wouldn’t you run into problems with your maulvis and imams and so forth if you decided to put a Pakistani on the moon?Recommend

  • Cynical

    @Zaid Hamid

    Moon is very sacred to us.Landing on moon is Blashphemy.Only infidels can entertain such filthy ideas.Recommend

  • http://alymer SaudiRules

    Vote for PTI! Once Imran Khan is in power he will make us space super-power in 90 days!Recommend

  • Hudaiba

    I really do approve ur article. We really do need Pakistanis in space. when we can have nuclear weapons.. why not rockets, satellites, telescopes and others.
    Hell to our government.Recommend

  • Indian

    @Atif:
    At-least you understand that Zaid Hamid talks non sense.. That was the exact point of the comment…Recommend

  • Bhushan

    Pakistanies really need to stop comparing themselves with India in every matter and accept that both the countries are in different leagues in a lot of matters. I agree that there are a lot of similarities but comparison in each and every matter is a bit naive.Recommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    Hahaha..it seems that this article has stung the always jealous indians…funny..i think we ahould have more of these articles. Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com Anoop

    I expect sanctions for Pakistan(similar to the one on Iran now) after 2014, after US leaves Afghanistan. When they kick in it will be really really difficult for Pakistan to build a satellite, in fact impossible. Key technologies will be denied and Pakistan will be heavily cash-strapped to do anything worthwhile.

    Make hay while the sun shines, fellows..Recommend

  • Atif

    @Indian

    correct but point is are we discussing ‘zaid hamid’ here… Recommend

  • Ayesha

    well written article ! loved it. though i cant understand why are there so many indians commenting here? last time i checked it was blog written by a Pakistani for the Pakistanis ..what does it have to do with India? Recommend

  • ali arif

    @Bhushan:

    I dont get it…what is it to you indians if Pakistanis want to rival you, why is Pakistan-o-phobia so ingrained in the indian mindset that whenever Pakistanis start doing something progressive you indians start reminding us of our past sins, thank God we made the nukes if it werent for them your patronizing attitude would have been atrociousRecommend

  • junaid jani

    I wish one day the pakistani flag is thrust on the surface of the moon. what a wonderful thought !Recommend

  • Nauman

    Finally an article on space sciences. Relief !Recommend

  • Shaikh Usman

    i think that pakistan has a long way to go to be a well standing space faring nation, but yes, the first step in the right direction has to be taken. Good piece of work Mr. Jamal !Recommend

  • Anwar Saad

    well researched and well intentioned article i must sayRecommend

  • Hammad Scientist

    hmm…. interesting pakistan do a lot of work but not under present people of backward mindset ruling the nationRecommend

  • Ejaz

    I think a collaboration of suparco and paf would be very good in helping pakistan explore new avenues in space technologyRecommend

  • Just Pakistani

    After reading this blog i am looking at the night sky in a totally different way Recommend

  • Tahir

    Allah U Akbar. Inshallah one day we will conquer space as well. Only our thoughts have to be positiveRecommend

  • Aswad

    great job author ! kudos for bringing the plight of karachi uni’s space science department’s plightRecommend

  • Farooq Usman

    Welldone ! it is the interest in these subjects that make a nation stand out of others. one day we will have our space station Inshallah !Recommend

  • Arshad siddique

    Extraordinary! Well researched ! Loved it !Recommend

  • Awan

    Bravo ! good job… keep it coming, we need more awareness on this subjectRecommend

  • Birdy

    Almost good as humsafar …jokes aside we really need to be serious of our space program, if countries like algeria and ukraine can invest heavily then why not us?Recommend

  • Nomi

    seriously we are going no where. There should be plenty of work done on this sector. Mr.Jamal nice work.Recommend

  • Pole

    Space exploration is haram. Man has no business exploring allahs jannat. :-) . J/kRecommend

  • tariq ali khattak

    good work bro keep it up..Recommend

  • G. Din

    @junaid jani:
    “I wish one day the pakistani flag is thrust on the surface of the moon. “
    Thrust on the surface of the Moon? This the problem with the Muslim/Pakistani mindset. Everything you do must somehow be associated with violence or fear. You plant a flag, not thrust it! Planting is a kinder, gentler action. I think even the Moon may prefer that!Recommend

  • Shafiq

    Suparco was good when turcowicz and dr salam were guiding it, now it is completely visionless and directionless, we need to do more and clearly it is evident by the advances of indian and chinese space agencies, we should get be advancing more in this field. Good work by the author in brging this issue to light instead of the usual politicsRecommend

  • Tahir

    @G. Din:

    oh now you are going to teach the etiquette of “”planting”” a flag on the moon. I really think that you have some sort of issues against Paki Progressiveness. The problem is with your mindset not our Muslim and Pakistani mindset. get your issues sorted out. Its obvious that you are trolling this page.Recommend

  • Cynical

    @G. Din
    Your rejoinder @junaid jani.
    You don’t miss a thing.Very well observed.Actually it is about ‘cultural root’.Recommend

  • Mj

    There is little to no interest in astronomy and cosmology among the general population. Perhaps some channel can collaborate with BBC, NatGeo, Discovery, and PBS to show their excellent documentaries in the local language. Recommend

  • Saladin

    @Cynical: Kindly explain what is the inside joke here. This is supposed to be a public forum about science and technology not a private ‘gup shup’ corner . how in the world are you mixing science culture and religion? Recommend

  • G. Din

    @Tahir:
    “I really think that you have some sort of issues against Paki Progressiveness.”
    Trust me, no one will be happier than me if Pakistan one day is able to plant its flag on the Moon or anywhere else where its acts advance mankind. There were three space powers before India became one. There were two of them who left their business card on the Moon before India did so. And, it shall absolutely delight me if you join us. But, you have first to get your head out of jehadi mists, of conquering worlds and thrusting flags on alien territories, my friend!Recommend

  • Cynical

    @Saladin
    I say, most respectfully, that you’re missing the point.
    Religion is supreme.Divorced from religion, science,culture,arts,sports, you name it; all are nothing.
    Regards.Recommend

  • RAW is WAR

    Imarn the skywalker to rescue…..Recommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    @G. Din: where did find the jehadi mindset sir? Does using the word thrusting and conquering qualify as jehadi? U sound almost mcarthy-ishRecommend

  • ahmed

    PAKSAT-1 was originally known as Palapa C1. It was launched by Hughes Space and Communications Company for Indonesia. Later Indonesia declared the satellite unusable after an electric power anomaly. The insurance claims were paid and the title was transferred to Hughes Space and Communications Company. [2] HGS-3 was then acquired by Pakistan from M/s Hughes Global Services on “Full Time Leasing ” and relocated to Pakistan’s reserved slot at 38 Degree. After a series of orbital maneuvers, the Satellite was stabilized at its final location on December 20, 2002 with 0-degree inclination. The satellite is in position at the Pakistani-licensed orbital location, 38° east longitude.Recommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    @ahmed: so?Recommend

  • ayesha

    @peterparkerarcher: “Does using the word thrusting and conquering qualify as jehadi?”

    Yes. Elsewhere, the act IS referred as “Planting a flag’ NOT ‘ Thrusting a flag’.Recommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    @ayesha: Then its a case of cultural misunderstanding not any bad intentions. Compared to latin and greek, english ( anglo saxon) language is more war like but we all use it, it doesnt mean all the people who speak english are warlike.

    In any case if the guy did a Grammatical mistake lets not harp about as english isnt the first language of the pakisRecommend

  • antony

    Aspiring for a weather satellite to warn the floods in june is much better than “india did it so we shd not be left behind” . IF 90% of population think space exploration is haram and moon is sacred and not to be touched there will be so much resistance even to draw plan on paper!Recommend

  • http://www.facebook.com/talentidols sanaahamed

    That was a quite insightful article. Thanks for sharing your concepts with us thanks again..Recommend

  • ayesha

    @peterparkerarcher: “@ayesha: Then its a case of cultural misunderstanding not any bad intentions. Compared to latin and greek, english ( anglo saxon) language is more war like but we all use it, it doesnt mean all the people who speak english are warlike”

    I can accept your thought process. There can be cultural misunderstandings and indeed in this case, that might very well have been the case. But how about giving the same benefit of doubt to G. Din? People seem to be accusing him of being against Pak’s progress – which I have no reason to conclude based on what he/she has written..Recommend

  • yousaf

    @Zaid Hamid: You are quite uninformed about the achievements Pakistani scientists have made in space technology.Our space scientists have invented a very innovative way of keeping-up with the rest of the world in space-race.Instead of going up and out in space and wasting time/money they have brought whole space down at our door-steps.Now we have everything “that others go up to find” at an arm”s length,(no nothing,live happy!!?) Recommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    @ayesha:

    Benefit of doubt should not be given to a person with an obvious aptitude for english language. If tht person is constantly criticising pakistan and islam ( and he/she has every right to do that) then i am also obliged and also reserve the right to criticise and form my own assumptions. People seem to have a very wrong idea about pakistan ( thankyou cnn and star news), like this bloke Antony saying tht 90% of pakis think its haram to go the moon. Well tht completely foolish to even think that. If people have proof of that then bring it forward. I believed that this forum was for pakistanis to appreciate all things paki. Not a for foreigners to post useless baseless and senseless criticism on pakistan. Disgusting !Recommend

  • Haris Javed

    if in this creepy stagnant system, Pakistan has done remarkebaly well,
    then YES!! IA we can go far beyond the horizon..
    Time to recount.. .
    India has sent an unmanned spaceship.. .that is really lamentable.. .
    but at the same time quite inspirational..
    +THUMBS UP FOR JAMMAL UDIN
    u really have an optimist infopedia in you!Recommend

  • Big Lebowski

    *“Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending.”*

    We want a Paki in Space !Recommend

  • Faizan

    BAZINGA !! Pakistani Astronauts for the WIN!Recommend

  • Tony Singh

    @Asif:
    Spot on Asif. Farms and Kitchens are the labs for innovation. And if a country can set its farmers and its financial system in order no one can stop its progress. (e.g. Israel)Recommend

  • G. Din

    @junaid jani:
    @Cynical:
    @ayesha:
    @peterparkerarcher:
    I should like to say in defence of Junaid Jani that he perhaps translated – literally- how we would express the same sentiment i.e planting a Pakistani flag on the Moon, from Urdu. In Urdu we say “Jhanda garh doh” for the same act. But, we also say:”Murda garh doh”(“Bury the dead body”). Does that mean Pakistani flag is likened to a dead corpse? This leads to a different can of worms.
    For those who believe that my comments are deliberately -and maliciously – anti-Pakistan, I would like to assure them that I am not motivated by such negative sentiments. The only Pakistan-related sentiments all Indians, including myself, are motivated by are directed to caution Pakistanis from misadventures against our country. We have suffered much at your hands -needlessly. Even so, we maintain a mature outlook towards Pakistan. Witness how Pakistan is dragging its feet in the 26/11 carnage inquiry even today as our foolish PM and his Commerce Minister are trying their darnedest to improve trade with you. Yes, we Indians can be foolish but our memories are quite long!Recommend

  • Raja

    Funny, this marriage between science and religion in the subcontinent. One would expect space scientists, with all their knowledge to be almost atheists. I remember reading that one of the key Indian space scientists visited a temple to seek the god’s blessings before a satellite launch. I am okay with that though, as it was his own time and money and not the government’s. There is also this story of a famous religious guru who wouldnt believe that America had landed a couple of men on the moon the first time, because “moon was god”. Thankfully, Indians dont take their gurus or their religion for that matter too seriouslyRecommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    @Tony Singh: israel? Kibbutz settling schemes paid for by the US…israel os a nad example. Turkey, a better oneRecommend

  • G. Din

    @Raja:
    “One would expect space scientists, with all their knowledge to be almost atheists. “
    No one on this planet knew more about space than Albert Einstein. What was his take on God? He most certainly was not an atheist!
    I think it is rank immaturity for Man to think “God does not exist” after the veil has been lifted over a few square inches of this unbelievably vast panorama we call the Universe.
    “I am okay with that though, as it was his own time and money and not the government’s. “
    The time may have been his, money certainly came from the government! Would that still be o.k with you?Recommend

  • Prabhjyot Singh Madan

    Sir, I would say, your efforts are wellwished but sir, you are a Galileo in a troubled country. Until, the establishment learn to respect your civilians as their employers, it is impossible. Pakistan does not have money for sensible and advanced probe. But respect your pain and gesture to write the blog. Sat Sri akal, salam , cheerio. Take careRecommend

  • Ammad the Judge Sahab

    @peterparkerarcher:
    @G. Din:

    I think you guys have proved that ( and beyond) that Pakistan and India will always be separate.

    Now moving along. The last time I checked this article was about space sciences in Pakistan not about whose country was better. As far as i have read the article the writer has mentioned competition with ISRO but also has compared Supraco with Iran and Ukraine as well. It does not mean ( and i am assuming) that the writer is against Iran and err.. Ukraine as well.

    Secondly, the Indians should not get tripped about any competition but should welcome it. Look, for a strong and economically stable india a stable Pakistan, a peaceful Pakistan and a Technologically advanced Pakistan is a must,. It has to be a symbiotic process for Both India and Pakistan to partake each other’s knowledge and expertise in certain areas to improve their economic conditions. India must realize that since Pakistan lies in the middle of India and Iran therefore good relations with Pakistan are absolutely important. That means collaboration with Pakistani business forums and institutes as well as techno agencies. Concerning this article i cant recall any time ISRO actually gave a helping hand to SUPARCO.

    Thirdly and this is for peterparkerarcher, bhai jan, calm down.

    Fourthly. The commonners like you me, G Din, peterparker archer have always been misled by our governments. G_Din mentioned about the mumbai attacks. I offer him my sincerest apologies and feel ashamed that the attacker was from Pakistan. But. here lies the point. Pakistanis do not support the actions of ajmal qassab nor will they ever support it in the future You must realise that the mumbai attacks were alqeada/ taliban planned not pakistani planned. While I must accept that that yes there are terror hideouts in Pakistan and the army has lost many jawans in rooting out the cancer of taliban from the country but please all of you indians must realize that Pakistanis do not support the terrorists that being said i think i am not bound to any oath to make the indians understand any further . They have minds of their own. Also they should curb the actitvities of RAW and SHIV SENA which are detrimental to the peace process.

    Lastly. *let us talk about collaboration between India’s ISRO and Pakistan’s SUPARCO * G-DIN and peterparkerarcher, will you be kind enough to discuss about this particular piece of article? Recommend

  • Reddy

    @G. Din: i think,we all believe in conditional god,once we find an answer to the unknown then we replace the god with an answer,in that way god is in every unknown. that’s quite philosophical even for my liking.Recommend

  • vasan

    Ammad the Judge Sahab : I am an Indian. I agree with you 100% of whatever said by you. Only wish both the govts are a bit speedy and decisive on many issues to bring closure to many issues. Recommend

  • Tony Singh

    @peterparkerarcher:
    I know for sure Israel has made great progress in farming techniques in Arid/semiarid regions. There is no harm in learning from anyone who is better than you. It only helps. I can’t say for you or others, but in my opinion one should not bring religion/region/caste/creed into learning. I am sure almost all people of Pakistan do not think like Lawyers of Lahore.Recommend

  • G. Din

    @Ammad the Judge Sahab:
    “I think you guys have proved that ( and beyond) that Pakistan and India will always be separate. ”
    Hallelujah!
    I respect your sentiments but I have difficulty accepting the notion that Pakistan government had nothing to do with the carnage in Mumbai. Hadley’s testimony belies it! Undoubtedly, you will hear more about this.
    Sir, Pakistan -and Pakistanis- have lost all credibility after the UBL affair!Recommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    @G. Din:
    And you sir have caterigorically and definitively proved that yes you are anti pakistan and would cringe at the thought of a successful space program and would resort to any means to undermine it. I think your selective selection of words from ammads comment proved that beyond all doubt. Further more you failed to shed light on the indo pak train service terror attack and shiv sena. I dont know why is the ET admin allowing anti pakistan elements to troll this page. Oh ! May be…..to show the true jealous nature of the indians.Recommend

  • Saladin

    @G. Din: Accept it. You are anti-pakistan If you have difficulty accepting that pakistan was not behind mumbai attacks then so be it…. u keep believing that ..its your right. but dont expect Pakistanis to believe that. Because a Pakistani will more readily believe a fellow pakistani then an anti-Pakistan indian. You just proved that Pakistan rightfully separated from india.Recommend

  • Saladin

    @G. Din:

    Sir, Pakistan -and Pakistanis- have lost all credibility after the UBL affair!

    ok, so why are you on a Pakistani news site reading and answering pakistanis if you dont believe that pakistanis are credible. cant you spill your hateful comments on some indian news site which surely would lap it up.

    good day !Recommend

  • kaalchakra

    Not to make light of it, but there is a theory that Al-Buraq was an intergalactic super vehicle designed to look like a horse to throw the enemy off. It would be a good idea to see if some descriptions could be found and such a machine could be recreated.Recommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    @kaalchakra:
    Oh so now we have begun islam bashing eh……..excuse me ..but the buraq and the shab e mairaj was a spiritual journey not a physical one. And please do not make fun of somebody elses religionRecommend

  • G. Din

    @peterparkerarcher:
    “@G. Din: And you sir have caterigorically and definitively proved that yes you are anti pakistan and would cringe at the thought of a successful space program and would resort to any means to undermine it. ”
    Why not prove what you are asserting? Do not mistake “being anti-Pakistan” with “not being pro-Pakistan”. I don’t give a damn about Pakistan (just as you don’t about my country) and would not be moved to any emotion about it. It is your mischief that we in India are concerned about. If that mischief can be avoided by engaging with Pakistanis, we would take that chance. On the flip side, if you cease that mischief, trust me, we will ignore you to your discomfiture!
    @Saladin:
    “ok, so why are you on a Pakistani news site reading and answering pakistanis…”
    Here is an excerpt of my post earlier which answers your question:” The only Pakistan-related sentiments all Indians, including myself, are motivated by are directed to caution Pakistanis from misadventures against our country. ” We don’t go to other websites because Pakistan is the only odd country out.Recommend

  • Saladin

    @G. Din:
    ok, so what sort of misadventure or “”terrorism”” are you cautioning against in this space related article?? can you answer that? accept it you came here trolling because as an indian you are so arrogant and bigheaded that you dont want pakistan to rise upto your level. Machiavelli would agree with me.Recommend

  • Zia Jee

    @G. Din:

    Our molvis and imams might be the most backward creatures on the planet but to actually say that a space program would run into trouble because of them? bah ! only a foreigner could ever say that. i think you indians should better visit PAKISTAN and then form opinions rather than being online virtual prophets of truth ! I think the reason you came to comment on here was becuase somehow your sense of being indian couldnt allow something progressive happening in your neighboring country because you never accepted it in the first place.

    you said that you dont give a damn about pakistan…well look who’s commenting actively on a Pakistani Blogsite hahahahaRecommend

  • Rashid

    I really do think G-Din is actually trolling the comments.

    Awsum article mr.jamal, really insightful and well researched.Recommend

  • SKChadha

    Well said madam. Before thinking of putting foot on Moon, one should have his firm foot on ground.Recommend

  • http://www.truthbykbaig.blogspot.com Sohaib

    Thanks , weldone , outstanding , pray for pakistan ,Recommend

  • G. Din

    @Saladin:
    *@G. Din:ok, so what sort of misadventure or “”terrorism”” are you cautioning against in this space related article?? can you answer that?”
    Starting with hoodlums from your qabaili areas in the northwest backed up by your army into Kashmir in 1947 to the most recent 26/11 carnage in our metropolis Mumbai. Does that answer your question?
    ” accept it you came here trolling because as an indian you are so arrogant and bigheaded that you dont want pakistan to rise upto your level.”
    I don’t see, nor will anyone else, what my arrogance or bigheadedness have to do with anything. You have answered it yourself by committing a Freudian slip. “To rise upto your level”? So, you concede that you have to make some effort to rise to our level. I daresay you are being quite honest – subconsciously.
    It is not enough to assert that you are equal to anybody; you have to point out some of your accomplishments. There isn’t one you can point to as your own. Prototype of the “nooklear bum” you are forever brandishing came from China and those Ghaznis and Ghaznavis are North Korean missiles on which you dabbed a little green paint. That is what everyone, leaving out the Pakistanis, says and believes!Recommend

  • zahra

    its high time we start thinking big and small!! solve internal issues and external!
    nothing wrong with dreaming really big and becoming big one day ! keep up the spirits!!Recommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    @zahra:
    Best comment so far ! Cant agree more. We should define our basics and solve issues while also dreaming big becuase the dreams of today are the realities of tommmorow. Its high time we pakistanis aim high stand tall! Recommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    @G. Din:
    So what does kashmir war and misadventures have to do with this article. Come to the point sir dont troll.Recommend

  • peterparkerarcher

    @G. Din:
    Yes saladin is right. It was not a freudian slip. We pakistanis are humble and modest enough to acknpwledge that we are technogically and numerically behind ur country, but consider this, the goths, vandals and saxons were also inferior to the romans. Think on that.Recommend

  • http://infinity-and-beyond-space-exploration Rahamathullah

    We will shortly travel by our rockets and hoist Pakistan flag in Zennat.Recommend

  • G. Din

    @peterparkerarcher:
    “We pakistanis are humble and modest enough to acknpwledge that we are technogically and numerically behind ur country, but consider this, the goths, vandals and saxons were also inferior to the romans. “
    I think this business of humility and modesty has been worked to death both in India and Pakistan. We ought to show some silent spunk. You may be technologically behind India today. That does not mean that you are forever doomed to stay behind. Besides no country in the world is absolutely ahead of others in every sphere of human activity, not even the mighty America. It behooves us to improve and excel and go, as far as we can, in any and all spheres within our means. There are some areas where Pakistanis are already excelling such as fine surgical instruments or textiles or some sport equipment among perhaps others. In today’s world, nations complement each other. It is foolish to seek to excel in every field.
    As far as your other comment -“So what does kashmir war and misadventures have to do with this article”- be reminded that but for those distractions India would have travelled even further. So, I daresay, would have Pakistan but for its own cussedness. For countries like India and Pakistan, peace is an essential prerequisite to moving forward and catching up with the rest of the world. Does it make any sense?Recommend

  • Saladin

    @Rahamathullah:

    Salam to our Bengladeshi bhai Recommend

  • Saladin

    @G. Din:

    aha ! so you are finally coming on track now. peace process eh ? good to listen that. Good Good. Peace of of course is essential to both the countries. Nobody denies that and neither do I. But as they say in our urdu language ” taali donon hathon sey bajti hayRecommend

  • http://infinity-and-beyond-space-exploration Hakimullah Balochi

    Pakistan essentially require a rocket to carry our Mullahs to other planets to teach hatred, sectoral killings, Ahmedi bashing, minority killing, blasphemy lessons, growing beard, eating others chicken. Recommend

  • faisal

    Space and other strategic programs can grow faster if we open up these areas for private sector investment and control (non-security areas). Sciences like Radio Astronomy can also work for the development of commercial and defense technologies which can help in not only recovering the costs but they will also help in generating good revenues and above all a good scientific base for the country. Instead of wasting money on bogus programs like Benazir Corruption Support Program, Laptopi, Yellow crap schemes etc Pakistan can do some serious advancements in the strategic non-defense areas of sciences by simply using the existing defense technology base of the country.

    For this we also need to put technology institutions dominated by military in the hands of honest and well-qualified civilians who will be experts of their fields but most important thing will be to include private sector and universities in the program.

    Here is a document by NRAO on the role of Radio Astronomy in American Technology Competitiveness: http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrao.edu%2Fnews%2FTechnologydocfinal.pdf&ei=YXJ1T972JuW0iQf1qt33Dg&usg=AFQjCNGljsk_YQq1VGDSWyCH-UuxbQR6cQRecommend