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Nuclear Iran is not in Pakistan’s interest

December 13, 2011

Pakistan cannot afford the devastating human and economic implications a nuclearised Iran could bring. PHOTO: AFP

Since the International Atomic Energy Agency issued its latest findings on Iran’s nuclear program and activities, policy-makers in the West and the United States in particular are weighing their options on how to respond to Iran’s continued defiance of its Non-Proliferation Treaty obligations.

The Islamic Republic’s nuclear program has possible military dimensions and its stated “peacefulness” lacks credibility. Alarm bells in Israel have been ringing for a long time and a pre-emptive strike on Iran’s nuclear sites seems imminent. Not much is being discussed in Pakistan about the implications of a nuclear Iran, precisely due to Pakistan being consumed by its own problems with the on-going political turmoil and its relations with the United States.

This is an alarming development not only for the geopolitical balance in the Middle East, but also for South Asia. A nuclear Iran is not in Pakistan’s interests. Considering that Iran’s regional interests do not align with those of Pakistan, a nuclear Iran has serious implications of greater belligerent behaviour, regional hegemony and bullying. Even though Pakistan is a nuclear state and any nuclear aggression towards us will be deterred, it would immensely reduce our leverage in relations with Iran—if any.

Being the only Muslim nuclear country, a nuclear Pakistan still has some symbolic value in the eyes of the Muslim world. Even though we are economically weak and, at the behest of foreign financial institutions and governments, our national defence posture will take a deep slide with a nuclear armed state on our western border.

The interests of Pakistan and Iran clash in Afghanistan, and Iran’s relations with our key ally in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, remain rocky. In the event of a military confrontation between Iran and the West, Pakistan and an unstable Iraq would be the most effected countries due to the spill-over from a potential war. At this time and most likely in the near future, at least Pakistan cannot further bear the burden of a refugee influx. In addition, India’s improving relations with Iran is also mind-boggling for our India-centric attitude and policy. Not that I am justifying this historic posture of ours, this attitude is still wide-spread in the security establishment. We must take that into account.

An ideologically inclined state, Iran’s sectarian outlook and ambitions of regional hegemony will create further divides in the Muslim world and the Middle East in particular. One should also not forget that Iran has played a role in inciting sectarian violence in Pakistan, supporting various Shia factions against their Sunni counterparts. Attaining nuclear status would strengthen Iran’s position and possibly its belligerence in fuelling the sectarian strife.

Iran’s offensive, nonsensical and aggravating statements and position only furthers the prospect of more wars in this region. Just recently, Saudi Arabia Prince Turki al-Faisal, who was the former chief of Saudi Intelligence, expressed the Kingdom’s desire to develop nuclear weapons to counter a future Iranian threat. “It is our duty toward our nation and people to consider all options” he was quoted as saying.

This is a serious development that could spark a potential arms race in the Middle East. We could engage in an intellectual debate about the rationality of these state actors and their willingness to use nuclear weapons—if they attain the capability—but the thought of them going nuclear sends a chill through the rational mind. Many in the West also fear that a nuclear Iran will become bolder in the use of its proxies, namely Hamas and Hezbollah.

It is imperative that Pakistan convene a meeting of the Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC) to pressure Iran into abandoning its continued defiance of its international obligations – the NPT and the United Nations Security Council Resolutions. Pakistan, along with its allies in the Middle East, should pressure Iran to come to the negotiation table and respect its UN obligations. To avoid a potential arms race in the Middle East and a dooms-day scenario where there may be a nuclear exchange – either by states or through non-state actors – Pakistan should jump on the bandwagon into pressurizing Iran.

Pakistan could not care less about addressing the fears of the West. I suggest this because this is in Pakistan’s vital national security interests and everything should be done to avoid being sandwiched between two nuclear states. We also need to look out for our regional interests in the Middle East. A nuclearised region could have devastating human and economic implications for the region and the world. Pakistan cannot afford either in its current state of weakness.

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

 Posted by Shahzeb Shaikha
 

Readers Comments (112)

  • Reply The Reader Dec 13, 2011 - 3:20PM

    Us Pakistanis, we are an insecure nation. How much threat can Nuclear Iran pose us when are surrounded by mountain high nuclear states i.e. India, China and Russia? Good country, Iran is and another nuclear state to neutralize Israel’s status will come in very handy to resolve Palestine issues.

    Having said this, there is no justification for arming yourself with Nukes. Iran should contemplate rolling this plan and so should the other countries. Let’s start with the US… the most belligerent nation of all.Recommend

  • Reply Mj Dec 13, 2011 - 3:28PM

    A good and well reasoned blog. One should always keep in mind that friends today may be enemies tomorrow. A nuclear Iran in not in our best interest or that of the whole region. It also doesn’t help matters that the Iran’s theocratic elite is not above looking at simple mundane worldly developments in eschatological or apocalyptic terms.Recommend

  • Reply Shahraam Dec 13, 2011 - 3:42PM

    American Predator killed 24 Pakistani military officers on the border line. Predator are supported by Sentinel. Sentinel watch and see the target then instruct the Predator to shoot. Iran downed an eye that instructs the killing of Pakistanis. You are right America is good friend of Pakistan and Iran is the enemy of Pakistan!Recommend

  • Reply Saeed Irfan Dec 13, 2011 - 3:46PM

    . As per the author Pakistan is using its nuclear clout as a leverage against Iran. A very tall and damaging claim. As for Iran, it is the only Muslim country that is still free and independent and whatever it does should reflect its own interests not the dreams of a deranged writer here. At any rate probably Iran already has the nukes in hiding and these kind of antagonist propaganda has lost all its efficacy to stop Iran, a nation that has the world’s fastest growth rate in science and technology. Pakistan should concentrate more on building its economy and improving its internal security so that it would not need begging on international scale. The main issue of Pakistan is begging and towing western line, not Iran’s nuclear program.Recommend

  • Reply raza abbas Dec 13, 2011 - 3:48PM

    I must say the blog is more biased than needed. The muslim world requires more and more nuclear powers to emerge be it in the name of Iran or anyother. Calling Pakistan a beacon of hope for the muslim world as the only nuclear armed nation yet is living in our dreams and wont work more than fascinating us for no good! Iran’s stance against Israel and US is quite eloquent and must be adhered to by countries like Pakistan and KSA. Pakistan and Iran have a long history of friendship that dates back to centuries and when we have learned to live with 2 hostile neighbors with one having nuclear arms and a friendlier neighbor as China. Living with a nuclear Iran wont be a big deal at all. Sectarian strive has been fueled by several countries in the Pak-Afghan lands be it KSA or Iran or even Pakistan! all have played the sectarian card worsening the entire situation, but that has little to do with their nuclear arm stance.
    And calling upon Pakistan to do whatever it needs to stop them from getting nuclear arms is hilarious. Is USA, West and Arab successful to any extent, the country that mocks today’s super power is going to be stopped by us. and we’ll end up having another hostile neighbor (unless Iran is blind and wont know if we are interfering in their matters) . Thus Pakistan must look forward to make more MUSLIM friends and make real use of its so-called nuclear stance, else having a friend like USA is better to have several enemies around.
    I must say the author needs to review his thoughts over Iran’s nuclear arm.Recommend

  • Reply Parvez Dec 13, 2011 - 4:02PM

    Completely unrealistic approach. Pakistan is in no position to do what you suggest. Common sense dictates that you encourage good relations with your neighbours, at worst maintain a neutral stand. We need to put our own house in order before we start dreaming.Recommend

  • Reply How funny Dec 13, 2011 - 4:08PM

    Let’s just say that Iran’s perceived intention [not proven though] to develop nuclear weapons is by no means not related to development of nuclear weapons by a failed state like Pakistan which might render its (Pakistan that is) nuclear weapons accessible to terrorists festering abundantly on its land. “One whose house is made of a glass should not throw stones at others.” That applies to the failed state of Pakistan and does not exclude the backward nation of India. Both of you: Pakistan and India, don not have anything to call “national interest!” The first one is raped by Al Qaeda, the second is being raped by America. Iran will rule both of you, again, very soon.Recommend

  • Reply Corrupt Dec 13, 2011 - 4:19PM

    …..and how is nuclear Pakistan in West’s interest ?
    Live and let live.
    If Pakistan/Israel has the right to have nukes, then Iran also has the equal rights.Recommend

  • Reply Aswad Dec 13, 2011 - 4:48PM

    After Reading a superb post about the young boy in sunday bzar…back to crap …this is just non sense …Recommend

  • Reply Hasnain Dec 13, 2011 - 4:48PM

    lol we dont have threat from 9 Non or Anti-Muslims Nuclear Powers but from Iran =P Hats off to Amreican propaganda =) Go on Iran destroy America and Israel v r with you=)Recommend

  • Reply J Dec 13, 2011 - 5:05PM

    Insanity, utter insanity. Are nuclear weapons in someone’s interest at all? Try to wiki hiroshima and nagasaki! google image that tooRecommend

  • Reply Mj Dec 13, 2011 - 5:13PM

    @Corrupt:
    So if Pakistan/Israel/Iran have the right to nuclear weapons should we also extend this right to Somalia, Afghanistan, Ivory Coast, Chad, Haiti, and Niger? War is a bitter reality and there are exponentially greater chances of it becoming nuclear if more nations get the capability of annihilating millions in a few seconds. Someone said it best that man figured out nuclear weapons before he figured out how to be rational.

    I also find it amusing that commentators completely forget about the Iran-Iraq war which claimed close to a million lives. Make no mistake, there would not have been Iran or Iraq if either one of them had access to nukes during that war and yet our braindead populace still supports nuclear proliferation as if a weapon of wholesale destruction is something to be cherished. Only among Pakistanis have I observe such reverence for nuclear weapons.Recommend

  • Reply stewart Dec 13, 2011 - 5:17PM

    1st..apart from hizballah..there is no iranian sponsored military organisation…
    though it is to be accepted that shias in the subcontinent are also narrow minded,arrogant and big time fools and biased just as others muslim sects…

    2nd..unlike other religious leaders including christian popes, jewish rabbis,sunni mullahs and indian pundits…iranians ayatollahs are way too careful in their utterences…i mean when was the last time khamenei critisised a non muslim people…leave alone sunnis…the ayatollahs are world class polititians with remarkable oratory skills .i even heard that..they becum ayatollah only after studying westerrn as well as eastern philosophies and political sciences…they spent years studying aristotle ,plato,koranic sciences….and biblical narrations…

    3rd.most of the troubles pakistan is facing oday is only because of its uneducated,ill-informed intollerent and biased majority…not iran!

    4th.sad but true….is the fact that most of the problems in India, iran and afghanistan and muslims elsewhere are only due to pakistanis…

    the list cud go on…..and plz dont talk about self-interests and policies….everybody knws pakistan is a failed state….it was always a failed state… it was always ruled by goons and merry makers…it is hilarious to pretend as if u ve a “think tank” in pakistan…i advise u build a good parliament first…Recommend

  • Reply Agha Abbas Raza Dec 13, 2011 - 5:17PM

    strengthen Iran’s position and possibly its belligerence in fuelling the sectarian strife

    Please use proper english. Fuelling the strife does not make any sense; not because it is allegorical but because you never fuel strife. Seriously people should consider what they are writing as improper use of language could have devastating impact on the psychology, which would lead to distorted reasoning.

    Nevertheless, a well-written piece.Recommend

  • Reply true man Dec 13, 2011 - 5:28PM

    iran has never been sincere to pakistan….infact jews have got very deep and secret association with the iranian government..it is just a fake drama what U.S and iran are giving mere staements against each other and practically nothing bad has happened to iran from the west.Recommend

  • Reply Qaisrani Dec 13, 2011 - 5:28PM

    Pakistan is the only country where the citizens are more concerned about the policies and issues of an other country based upon their sectarian linkages;If you are Shia,then nothing could be said against Iran(it is the same Iran which killed 3 Pakistani fishers some days back while Indian d’not do it) no matter how rational it is.Same is the case with Sunnis who try to side by Saudia(it is the same Saudia who treats Pakistanis like animal).For Iran,only Ahmadinejad is enough to isolate them from International community out of nothing.Common Iranis ans saudis have enough of these theocratic states.
    In this scenario,blog like this will only irritate the day dreamers who think one day Iran will eventually be able to destroy Israel by atomic power.Recommend

  • Reply KR Dec 13, 2011 - 5:29PM

    rubbish. If Israel and US can have it what problems have we got if our friend country Iran gets it ?? if Israel gets Nuclear weapons there is no arm race in middle east but if Iran gets it than the arm race will start how ridiculous is that ? we were supposed to be a ummah but looking at this state of muslim i can understand why west is ruling over most of the islamic world.Recommend

  • Reply ALi Dec 13, 2011 - 5:31PM

    this is heights of ignorance or may be propaganda. Its shame to see that we have such posts in our media as well, who are saying the same thing which USA wants.Recommend

  • Reply ajmal Dec 13, 2011 - 5:33PM

    Look to comments.Listen All those commentators who support IRAN and unhappy with blog.Is this patriotism.Go to IRAN and live there.THIS COUNTRY DOES NOT NEED traiters who loves IRAN but hate pakistanRecommend

  • Reply KR Dec 13, 2011 - 5:33PM

    @MJ

    if Iran dont have the right for nuclear weapon than who has that right and who will decide who has them and who dont? why cant a Islamic state acquire it but israel russia china france india have all the freedom to acquire themRecommend

  • Reply Ali Dec 13, 2011 - 5:38PM

    Since you have bought into the whole propaganda against Iran I would like to point you in the direction of an article written by Pulitzer prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh in the New Yorker on the 18th of November this year called ‘Iran and the I.A.E.A.’ in which he completely discredited I.A.E.A’s report claiming that Iran’s nuclear enrichment had military uses. Credible sources within and outside the IAEA told him that the report was based on the same information that a few years ago ruled that there was no evidence that Iran was building the bomb. Wikileaks has already proved that the current IAEA chief is a US puppet and many in the IAEA are dissatisfied with him. For more details you should also watch 21st November’s edition of Democracy Now’s War and Peace Report hosted by Amy Goodman which is available online.Recommend

  • Reply Abu baker Dec 13, 2011 - 5:38PM

    i think author forgot that it is KSA who is supporting sectarian killings & voilence by supporting banned organization providing jehadi literature in madaris of Pak & Afghanistan infact OBL was a product of KSA not of Iran, & Iran is the only country & organization like hizbullah which is working for palestine issue & in the interest of muslim world, not Royal people of KSA who is extremely busy in increasing thr number of wives & kids.Recommend

  • Reply Corrupt Dec 13, 2011 - 5:43PM

    @Mj:
    Who are we to extend rights?
    either all should be allowed or no one.
    No Country is superior to enjoy special rights.Recommend

  • Reply Ali Dec 13, 2011 - 5:54PM

    As for the writers’ contention that nuclear Iran is a threat to us because we do not have the same allies makes no sense. Since we are re-examining our alliance with the US right now we should also re-examine our alliance with Saudi Arabia at the same time. I’m not saying that we should end relations with them but we should be careful what we are willing to do for them. Countries like Saudi Arabia and Bahrain continue to fund Wahaabi madrassahs in Pakistan which are responsible for much more devastation in Pakistan than any organization that Iran may have supported back in the day. Despite of this we provide them with Pakistani military and police personnel to defeat civilian uprisings by using the most brutal methods. No wonder many in Bahrain and Saudi now dislike Pakistanis. Many of our allies are like ‘millstones around our neck’ and they are dragging us down in terms of policy and pretending to help us by giving us money. Iran is a more useful ally to have in terms of proximity. The only useful ally we have right now is China. The US and Saudi don’t have any obligation to stick around in the region once their task is finished but Iran, China , Afghanistan and India will always be our neighbours and we should try to have better relations with them as far as possible.

    Also, the writer’s contention that India and Iran are drawing closer does not seem to be based in fact. At the moment it is India which seems to be against the Iran-Pakistan-India gas pipeline and India is turning to the US, Australia and other countries for its energy needs.Recommend

  • Reply Mj Dec 13, 2011 - 6:02PM

    @Corrupt:
    No country should be allowed to have such weapons. Not Pakistan, US, Israel, or whoever has them. It can be argued that conventional weapons try to hit military targets, whereas the only purpose of a nuke is utter destruction regardless of civilian or military status.Recommend

  • Reply Shah Dec 13, 2011 - 6:21PM

    As a muslim i think the asian tiger Ahmedi Nejad must Live long and Iran must have Atomic bombs as soon as possible and there is no cure of the disease except to drink toxic<:)

    Up to You:)

    May Allah bless the Umah of Mohammed (SW)
    Recommend

  • Reply Rizvi Dec 13, 2011 - 6:24PM

    Saudia Arabia is fuelling secatrian violence.Very biased article i must say. Very poor !Recommend

  • Reply AA Dec 13, 2011 - 6:28PM

    So you believe what is happening in the IAEA and western powers are objectively taking up this issue? There is no political gain they are seeking?

    Author=trappedRecommend

  • Reply Ali Tanoli Dec 13, 2011 - 6:43PM

    I am not agreed with Auther the reason is pressure divided from pakistan and funny thing is
    saudia dont scare from israel but iran what a shame………….
    Not only iran but Turkey and Egypt should have it too so balance of power get equal and all
    bloodshed stoped.Recommend

  • Reply Raja Dec 13, 2011 - 7:14PM

    Who was the Arab ruler who was supposed to have said (wikileaks) that the US should crush the head of the snake? With all their money, if that country is unable to de-nuke Iran, what chances does Pakistan have?Recommend

  • Reply rabbahs Dec 13, 2011 - 7:30PM

    Totally biased piece of text.
    Every nation have right to decide about their future. We already surrounded by so many nuclear powers, india, china and Russia.
    By we all witness that who is actually killing our people.
    We already have several wars with India, but they can nuke us on the first instant when they test their weapon … but they didnt … right.

    Or may be IRAN fell threat from Pakistan’s nuke? what do u say … Mr. Author ????Recommend

  • Reply Zaheer Dec 13, 2011 - 7:34PM

    It is better for Pakistan that a neighboring Muslim country will be equipped with atomic power.i think Muslim world will become safer than before.As far as i know Iranians are far better than other Muslim countries in Middle east.They love and respect knowledge.Other Muslim countries of middle east should enhance their scientific skills than to rely on western powers.Recommend

  • Reply Razor Dec 13, 2011 - 7:42PM

    In an ideal world, neither the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia nor Pakistan need fear Iran’s nuclear ambitions coz they are primarily intended as a deterrent against the US and Israel who Iran considers its greatest enemies. But the global politics is much more complicated as it brings into play regional sectarian ambitions and the resulting tensions. The Sunni countries in the Gulf are all sworn allies of the US and the playing along the US/Israeli policy of isolating Iran.

    Pakistan due to its backing of the Taliban and India-centric stance is finding itself in a no-win situation re Afghanistan. If you favour the Afghan Taliban you are abetting the rise of their brethren in Pakistan and which only exacerbates the problems of sectarianism and intolerance in our society in the long run. But if you are with the Karzai Govt then you risk having enemies on all sides. Well, atleast Iran is not an enemy but should be careful as to not make it one.Recommend

  • Reply Gohar Dec 13, 2011 - 8:04PM

    Iran is nothing more than a nation ruled by megalomaniac sectarian thugs and no they are not having nuclear arms for Israel or US, Iran wants to wipe off neighbouring Sunni states. Nevertheless, Iranian hypocrisy must be carefully tackled or else this viper will reveal fangs soon.Recommend

  • Reply Syed Meesam Dec 13, 2011 - 8:11PM

    what foolishreasoning and logic…. utterly a waste of my time !!! Long live Ahmedinejad, and the TRUE Islamic Revolution !!!!!!Recommend

  • Reply Ali Muntaziri Dec 13, 2011 - 8:33PM

    I’m afraid this is the worst write upI have read on the Express Tribune. He is blowing Iran’s nuclear capabilities entirely out of proportions. Even chief Western nuclear specialists claim Iran is at least 10-15 years away from making an atomic weapon. Also, why does this guy completely ignore Saudi Arabia when he talks about inciting sectarianism in Pakistan? Let’s face the truth, the greatest threat to Pakistan’s security is the extremist mindset that was developed and has prevailed within it as a result of Saudi-backed General Zia’s policies. The instances of thousands of well-educated Pakistani youth rallying in support of an assassin Mumtaz Qadri or the complete silence of such so called broad-minded intellectuals on the issues of Parachinar and Quetta are proof enough that Pakistan needs immense sorting out from within first. Then, if you look abroad, first and foremost somehow limit Saudi Arabia’s influence within your country. Iran is a big threat, I don’t buy that.Recommend

  • Reply Red Dec 13, 2011 - 8:59PM

    The only reason why Iran has not been attacked, and will not be attacked, is becuase it is an independent state, the iranian leadership are not USA’s puppets..

    if you had a basic understanding of modern warfare tactics; you would agree that USA would have attacked Iran only and only if it could buy the leadership, to ensure minimal retaliation.Recommend

  • Reply Ammar Ali Dec 13, 2011 - 9:03PM

    How about Pak-China-India-Iran power nexus….This will help create balance of power in the international arena….As opposed to US and Nato……Recommend

  • Reply Abbas Bilgrami Dec 13, 2011 - 9:11PM

    Mr. Sheikha is biased. KSA, Kuwait and Iran have for far to long played sectarian politics in Pakistan. The takfiri onslaught has just started. A tidal wave that will tear Pakistan and many nations. As to Iran wanting a nuclear capability they have as much right to acquiring this capability as Israel or Pakistan. You do have a right to your views as much as I have to tell you that you are talking nonsense and singing from the KSA and US hymn sheet. The dialectic you are stuck in has lost its relevance in todays world.Recommend

  • Reply MarkH Dec 13, 2011 - 9:26PM

    People are quick to jump on some kind of “people hate us for being Muslim” trip when they’re the only ones shoving the religion into the topic as forcefully as possible. The thing about policies of the West is they don’t mesh with short sighted know-it-alls. The policies usually involve looking into the future through present and past patterns. It’s the information the majority either don’t have or care to even come across when judging a policy. They look more at the present second of the day where nobody is trying to harm them which is why things always get out of hand and they can’t stop it or soften the fall when it finally happens. There aren’t many such policies that have not been in the general area of reality in terms of a predicted threat. You can see it in their reactions as they’re usually caught off guard when they’re made and become angry. After that, they drop the ball a few times and you can see it’s not all imagination and that there really are some peculiar things going on. People are rarely good at fooling others when they’re acting impulsively in even small ways in an emotionally charged reaction.Recommend

  • Reply Pakistani- Londoner Dec 13, 2011 - 10:53PM

    Nuclear Iran is not in Pakistan’s interest ?? A rather dubious attempt to make non issue an issue.

    Don’t get me wrong, there are wonderful bloggers here, who craft absolute gems (Pakistan’s issues). But this is certainly not ! my rating for this article is ZERO.Recommend

  • Reply rational_thinker Dec 13, 2011 - 10:56PM

    @ammarali.. thats a very a far fetched hope/ambition.. Pak, India relations are probably the worst bilateral relations in the worls, and China-India have issues vis-a-vis Tibet, Arunachal; Iran has issues with Pakistan( thats a bitter truth but most Pakistanis don’t admit it).. China has ethnic violence issues in eastern border to take care of.. the best thing that can happen is to form some sort of treaty so that no one will harm other’s interests directly.. I honestly don’t see all of them coming together to form such strong association as NATO..Recommend

  • Reply Ahsan Shah Dec 13, 2011 - 11:48PM

    I have hardly seen any such foolish, illogical and biased article.

    it says, Iran should not have Nukes because:

    Iran Supports Hamas and Hezbollah (ALL ISLAMIC WORLD LOVES THEM)

    Iran is against Saudia (AMERICAN AND ZIONIST pet)

    Iran supports Shias (QAZI, FAZUL RAHMAN, SAMI UL HAQ,ALL ULEMA GO TO IRAN,SUPPORT IT AND GET ITS SUPPORT)

    Saudis are scared of Iran Nukes but NOT of Israel: What more Shame for them.

    If 5 Powers and even Isreal have Nukes, WHY NOT Muslims have them?????

    Finally I would request Tribune PLEASE do not waste your space and your reader’s perciuos time on such funny writingsRecommend

  • Reply Boom Boom Dec 14, 2011 - 12:13AM

    Two Muslim nuclear powers are better then one.Recommend

  • Reply Hassan Dec 14, 2011 - 12:14AM

    I think then not only Iran but every single country with nuclear weapens is not in the interests of Pakistan. So Pakistan should go in world forms to say that all countries should destroy these weapens altogether. As for Iran their Mujtahids already gave directions, not to invest money and time to get this useless weapon, because its not allowed in Islam to use this weapon(which destroy not only human beings but trees, crops, earth, animals, birds,fishs, environment and so on). And as we know the rulings of Marjas and Mujtahids never change, becuase their deciens are not emotional but based on deeply understanding of Islamc and Quranic directions. If someone has faith in Allah as directed by Allah, then its Allah’s job to give him tools to dismantle the weapons in the hands of arrogants, as he changed the Cane of prophet Musa in to snake, in front of Firaoun to finish the so called power.Recommend

  • Reply Abbas A Dec 14, 2011 - 12:53AM

    Wow!!! If a failed state like Pakistan can have nuclear weapons than why cannot a stable islamic republic like Iran have one????? In EVERY AREA OF HUMAN INDEX-IRAN IS BETTER THAN PAKISTAN. YES !!!!!! The author should have written about Somalia or North Korea (with which Pakistan competes). Iran does not need just 2 billion dollars to get through the next 6 months like the state of pakistan. May we ask why pakistan is having nuclear weapons? This is a far bigger question for very one to ask.Recommend

  • Reply Green eyed Pakistani Dec 14, 2011 - 12:56AM

    Its not that I support Iran polices at level but , This writer is extremely Naive or Extremely Biased what a nonsense is written by him ,

    Arabnization in Pakistan has suffered our country to sectarian violence, We know how much Wahabies fund Pakistan to promote their interest in Pakistan and in other countries , they feed the local to Militancy and other sectarian then IranRecommend

  • Reply Asad Dec 14, 2011 - 1:00AM

    Iran is not a threat to Pakistan. Only India, Israel, and U.S. are threats to Pakistan. Muslims unite.Recommend

  • Reply Shahzeb Shaikha Dec 14, 2011 - 1:09AM

    Thank you all for reading the article. The point was that there hasn’t been much discussion on this topic.

    If you disagree with my thoughts, good. I want to spark some discussion. But please, instead of calling this a conspiracy, give me some concrete strategic arguments if you have the mental capacity to do so. Don’t pour emotions over you writing. It doesn’t help anyone, let alone the national discourse.

    And please don’t give me the Ummah argument. Nobody so far has mentioned by conclusion that Pakistan needs to avoid being sandwiched between two nuclear states. I want the reader to give me some legitimate argument and not question my nationalism and patriotism. Nobody has the right to do that. Calling each other traitors just shows how polarized we’ve become. This is an intellectual debate. If you’re not smart, read about Veena Malik. Refrain from commenting here.

    Thanks.Recommend

  • Reply Proud Pakistani Pakthoon Dec 14, 2011 - 1:30AM

    I ask a Pakistani, won’t mind Iran getting nukes. I see many people here seeming to mind.. you shouldn’t.Recommend

  • Reply Khizar Dec 14, 2011 - 1:31AM

    What a piece of lies n non factual article . . . Firstly As Iran’s Policy is runned by Supreme Leader called Ayatollah Khamenai he has ruled out nuclear weapons as haram act , Secondly after safely hacking of american drone in iran do u still thinnk Iran need Nuke to defend Itself . . . Grow up Baby . . . Sectarian voilence is bcoz of Petro dollar n afghan war not Iran . . . Dear Author Do u really Live in todays world or Has been hugely Misinformed in Information age . . .Recommend

  • Reply Ali Muntaziri Dec 14, 2011 - 1:49AM

    He is blowing Iran’s nuclear capabilities entirely out of proportions. Even chief Western nuclear specialists claim Iran is at least 10-15 years away from making an atomic weapon. Also, why does this guy completely ignore Saudi Arabia when he talks about inciting sectarianism in Pakistan? Let’s face the truth, the greatest threat to Pakistan’s security is the extremist mindset that was developed and has prevailed within it as a result of Saudi-backed General Zia’s policies. The instances of thousands of well-educated Pakistani youth rallying in support of an assassin Mumtaz Qadri or the complete silence of such so called broad-minded intellectuals on the issues of Parachinar and Quetta are proof enough that Pakistan needs immense sorting out from within first. Then, if you look abroad, first and foremost somehow limit Saudi Arabia’s influence within your country. Iran is a big threat, I don’t buy that.Recommend

  • Reply dr shoaib khan afridi Dec 14, 2011 - 2:29AM

    Extremely extremely good better best article. I pay tribute to this blogger and Express tribune. Security establishment knows that a nuclear iran is not for peaceful purpose as Iran has largest reserves of Oil and Gas. If Iran need any atom bomb then pakistan is there to help him in time of need. Iran has expansionest designs and wants oil to go about 300 dollar/barrel to destroy world economy. It is saudi arabia that is pumping highest amount of oil and if saudi arabia does not do then remember all pakistani commentators you people will have no Oil to drive car as 500/litre will be above ur capacity. There will be direct clash in afghanistan between pakistan and iran and had happened in afghanistan. Why we will be happy to see a nucleard iran when iran is strongly supporting pakistani minority who also support iran more than pakistan in time of crisis. A shia pakistani will never fire on iranian but will betray pakistan. Our security establishment never never like to see a nuclear iran. Why. For what purpose. Today friend is tomorrow enemy. If iran has the right of atom bomb who never fought israel in 1967,69,73 wars. Then all arabs countries who fought and lost wars have more right as they directly being threatened in comparison than far off iran who has no boundary with iran.In fact iran has captured some islands of bahrain,uae, and fought iraq. Iran wants shia bomb. It was united states who removed anti-iran governments from afghanistan. One was sunni taliban and other sadam husain. You will be suprised to hear that united states intentionally issue statements against iran as all arab countries will start nuclear programme and united states tell all that i am trying to stop iran while it like it to continue. In fact it is sunni who fight west in afghanistan. Why iran is not sending mujahideen to afghanistan. How many shia freedom fighters killed in afghanistan and in the world. Not a single. Only sunni are fighting in kashmir,palestine,chichnia and afghanistan. All drones victims are sunni. Excellent article. I am not biased but truth is truth. How can one hide. ThanksRecommend

  • Reply F K Dec 14, 2011 - 3:04AM

    Iran is a sovereign self respecting state. If they want to pursue nuclear energy, it is their right. Pakistan’s interest doesn’t even enter the discussion.
    Iran has never said they want nuclear weapons, they want nuclear energy. Ayatollah Khameini said that the use of nuclear weapons is haram and he is correct. Perhaps they will want nuclear weapons also one day but that is also their right, just like it is Pakistan, China, Russia etc’s right.
    Pakistan has become so blighted by their hatred of India that they worked against a plan by many developing nations (including many Iranian allies) to finally reform the UN so that all members were equal (no veto powers) or so that more Asian, African, Middle Eastern, Latin American countries would also have veto powers. It was very sad to see Pakistan vehemently opposing this move because it may have led India to having a veto power and then hearing Pakistan complaining about the way the UN works. Fortunately, I know that most people in Pakistan either support Iran’s right or are indfferent to it. I really doubt that many people in Pakistan share the same view as the author.Recommend

  • Reply Saad Raees Dec 14, 2011 - 3:30AM

    @Aswad:
    haha same here :pRecommend

  • Reply Saad Raees Dec 14, 2011 - 3:33AM

    @Mj:
    “Only among Pakistanis have I observe such reverence for nuclear weapons.”
    Sir, if that actually is the case, then you need to open your eyes and look aroundRecommend

  • Reply mhk Dec 14, 2011 - 3:36AM

    i think elements like those (Shahzeb Shaikha) which are realy active in our press and print media, are working for western interested should be banned from publishing such kind of rubbish. God save us from them!Recommend

  • Reply Saad Raees Dec 14, 2011 - 3:38AM

    @ajmal:
    wow?? who said we hate Pakistan?? and who said we love Iran?? we are just being logical .. why should we intefere in Iran’s matter?? its there matter and let them handle it, Jeez!!Recommend

  • Reply Tariq Qureshi Dec 14, 2011 - 4:19AM

    I think the author has no clue of the happening is the rest of the world. Has he forgotten that Israel is the ‘undeclared” nuclear power that actually is the largest threat to all the countries in Middle-East. He is also blind to the fact the India and Israel has a joint nexus against Pakistan. has he forgotten which country tried to enter Pakistan’s airspace with a unidentified aircraft.

    Now if you have to be stupid to toe the Israeli and US line, understand that Saudi Arabia may have ideological differences with Iran, but they are not enemies. If you have no clue about international power struggle I suggest you not write a article like a novice whose head is stuck in the sand.Recommend

  • Reply Wasim Dec 14, 2011 - 5:11AM

    If there is a nuclear India in our eastern border then I dont see how a nuclear Iran can be a threat to Pakistan. Iran and Pakistan have no disputes. Iran was the first country to recognize Pakistan in 1947.Recommend

  • Reply Wasim Dec 14, 2011 - 5:17AM

    @How funny: Don’t take the author’s opinion seriously, he is working for American interests not Pakistan’s interests. We Pakistanis see Iran as a brother and we have no disputes with Iran. And Iran doesn’t claim any of Pakistan’s land so dont say nonsense like the author.Recommend

  • Reply Danyal Dec 14, 2011 - 5:21AM

    Shame On You! Iran is our role model they should definetly obtain nuclear capabilities as as this is their sovern right how can you even say its not in our interest if we made it why not them they have a full right to defend themselves from any aggresion from Israel Saudia Arabia and other arab contries have put enuff pressure on Iran under the influence of US now its Irans time to gain uperhand in the regionRecommend

  • Reply Syme Dec 14, 2011 - 7:07AM

    Just one simple question from all, What is the benefit of nuclear Iran to anyone, even Iran? If they want civil nuclear facilities then I must say its ludicrous as they have plenty of oil and gas for energy. If Iran is all steel and sovereign and gives a damn about USA etc then why don’t they openly built the bomb?
    Iran is cornered and USA is taking good care of her foolish but ambitious plans and if due to western pressure Iran is trying to build a deterrent then who are the enemies of Iran? Israel, Iraq, Kurds? Oh yes, USA. Even Pakistan with all the help is not able to design a warhead capable to mounting a nuclear capable missile. How could Iran throw it to USA or Israel? If someday they make an aircraft or mountable nuclear warhead then what? USA or Israel will be the sitting ducks? I don’t think so..
    How it is favorable for Pakistan to befriend a belligerent nuclear Iran? Pakistan can’t buy cheap oil and gas without UN permission from Iran despite Iran and Pakistan willingness, Pakistan can’t trade with Iran, can’t link its infrastructure with Iran. If a nuclear Iran was ever favorable to Pakistan then “solid” Pakistani help would be there and if Pakistan ever support nuclear Iran then Pakistan would be the biggest global looser.
    Excellent and thought provoking article.Recommend

  • Reply Syme Dec 14, 2011 - 7:09AM

    Mujhaid e Islam , ahmedenajad is being questioned for 2 billions dollar corruption. Let see what happen to simpleton:)Recommend

  • Reply Ilyas Jamil Dec 14, 2011 - 7:53AM

    Nonsense. There are ZERO negative implications of a nuclear Iran for Pakistan. Iran has always been supportive of Pakistan until we got sideways for a bit over the Taliban. Had we worked with the Iranians on a consensus gov in Afghanistan, the mess that followed would never have happened. We should learn our lesson from that and continue to collaborate for the sake of peace in the region. Iran and Pakistan are friends and should remain so.Recommend

  • Reply Mard-e-Haq Dec 14, 2011 - 8:45AM

    A Nuclear Pakistan is also NOT in Iran’s, India’s and Afghanistan’s interests. Is this writer a shill for the Saudis? Does he consider Iran Muslim or is he influenced by Wahhabi ideology?Recommend

  • Reply sadiq nagri Dec 14, 2011 - 8:57AM

    the premise of your hypothesis is completely flawed.how can iran, the nation with wich we we centuries old historic ties be a threat to us. Iran is a keyy muslim country and its rise is the rise of islam. together pakistan and iran can take a harder stance of bellgerent stance of israel vis a vis palenstine.Recommend

  • Reply sana Dec 14, 2011 - 9:47AM

    Loved this article. Ahmedi Nejad is a power greedy politician. I have witnessed all Iranians (and i mean 100%) hating him and voted against him in the last general election in consulate here, but he still won. All the protests against him were squashed. This dictator is here to stay and take Iran down the drain. and wait till you see him attacking all the countries up until Israel and then you can then say long live Iran and Jiay Ahmedi Nejad.Recommend

  • Reply sana Dec 14, 2011 - 9:48AM

    @Wasim: read the history after 1947… Iran went down the drain after 1978Recommend

  • Reply Syme Dec 14, 2011 - 9:55AM

    Iran’s policy in Afghanistan is against Pakistan.When Pakistan on the behest of USA, KSA and UAE was supporting Taliban,Iran was opposing them and everyone knows how friendly Pak-Iran relations were. If Pak-Iran relations are sugar and honey then why recently they blamed Pakistan for terrorist activities in Iran?Recommend

  • Reply ayesha Dec 14, 2011 - 10:26AM

    @Asad: “Iran is not a threat to Pakistan. Only India, Israel, and U.S. are threats to Pakistan. Muslims unite.”

    You ask Muslims to unite against India. You are aware I hope that India has more Muslims than Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran, Iraq, Sultanate of Oman, Qatar, Bahrain and Egypt put together? I would like to remind you that Indian Muslims are as patriotic as Indian Hindus. We are not gaddar.Recommend

  • Reply shabbir Dec 14, 2011 - 10:36AM

    Its totally biased blog and also like that writer want to get sympathies from Enemy of Islam….
    I would suggest, first you should study whole history of Iran/Pakistan and than comments on any issue….
    Iran is only and only country in this World who are supporting all oppressed people in Muslim world either Shia or sunni…..Who is Hammas? Is a Sunni Mujahedeen fighting against Israel.

    Mr. Writer, I believe you forgot to put KSA name instead of Iran who is supporting and funding to Banned terrorists organizations in Pakistan (Every one know who had attacked on GHQ/Mehran base/ISI offices/ and other thousand multiple suicide on Innocent Pakistani people). You should open your eye and think 100 times before right any blog which is creating conflict between two important pillars of Islam (Shia & Sunni). In Pakistan only 2% deobandi people spreading terrerism in Pakistan to destabilize this country with the funding of KSA and planning of USA and Zoinist..

    I request express tribune ,please dont put this type of blog on your site which is creating conflict between Shia and sunni Muslims..Recommend

  • Reply narayana murthy Dec 14, 2011 - 11:30AM

    So…

    Pakistan support Iran. Arabs hate Iran. Pakistan needs Arabs.

    Pakistan hates Israel. Arabs hate Israel. Iran hates Israel. Arabs hate Iran even more.

    I think, central asia, including Pakistan and Afghanistan is worse than africa when it comes to dirty politics.Recommend

  • Reply Lord Dec 14, 2011 - 12:14PM

    I wonder Why Saudis do not feel threatened by Israeli nukes.Iranis will never come to pakistan as refugees in case of any conflict dont worry they have other better options.Mr. Author i can assure you iran will never ever develop nuclear weapon as for the technology its their right to attain the technology.For IAEA and west claims are similar to those that they made against the iraqi regime. Long live iran and its leadership.Recommend

  • Reply Neutral Analysis Dec 14, 2011 - 12:33PM

    I must say that writer is biased towards Iran and leaning towards KSA. He is suffering from Iranofobia like USA and Europe. We must support and seek help from Iran for Electricity, Natural gas and other mineral resources. Iran is our natural ally instead of USA, KSA and other un-natural and un-predictable partners.Recommend

  • Reply haideram Dec 14, 2011 - 12:38PM

    @Qaisrani:
    Plz make yourself clear on the issue of Israel! only one choice is there either Pakistan or any soft corner for Israel. Because both are mutually exclusive. Secondly Iran has and will always supported pakistan people. The history speaks a lot about how helped us in all those seasons that we went though. Still such comments and blogs are doing nothing but supporting an agenda that is not ours.Recommend

  • Reply haideram Dec 14, 2011 - 12:42PM

    @ALi:
    Thanks God that many of the comments on this hell blog reflects what majority of Pakis think about Iran. God bless Both Pak n Islamic IranRecommend

  • Reply imran Dec 14, 2011 - 12:52PM

    hilarious theory Today friend is tomorrow enemy??????? on the basis of this theory we are
    treating todays enemy as freind.

    Who is who’s friend.

    Israel Jewish funding USA
    Saudi Arab and All Arab countries and many other muslim countries facilitating US army by giving their land, still they are not threat for Islam.

    USA with the help of UN putting sanctions on Iran but still US is friend of Iran .wow.. i like this theory.. at least something to laugh.

    the author is merely on US agenda of isolating Iran from rest of the world as US did against Iraq war.

    Open enemies are “friends” while openly giving land for US bases are true “enemy”Recommend

  • Reply PA Dec 14, 2011 - 2:52PM

    http://pakistananalysis.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=255:friends-of-pakistan&catid=28:general&Itemid=43

    At a time when the United States is trying to deepen the already existing rift between Iran and Saudi Arabia by creating hype over the forged issue of an assassination plot of a Saudi diplomat, Adel al Jubair, Pakistan must play a role to defuse the tensions between the two nations that hold a special place in the Muslim world.Recommend

  • Reply Qaisrani Dec 14, 2011 - 2:58PM

    @hiaderam.
    Pakistan has nothing to do with Israel and we are not mutually exclusive.All this is propaganda by all craps like Hammed Gul et al.They have made us fool in Ummah context.Even in all Arab world,they Arabs take it as Arab-Israeli conflict rather Israeli-Pakistan conflict.They even d’not consider Pakistan a party.And keep in mind,Israel is there to stay forever whether you like it or not.
    @writer.I support your clarification and the original article.We are General Zia era generation.We live in Utopia and are miles away from rationality.
    Has any one noticed,the names with Shia leanings are strongly criticizing the article as per my expectations.Write an article against Saudi Arabia destroying Pakistan,Sunis will defend out of nothing Saudi policies which have posed greater threat to Pakistan.
    Pakistan is the only country where people like Iran,Suadi Arabia et Ummah more than their own country and country men.Recommend

  • Reply Vigilant Dec 14, 2011 - 3:12PM

    @Author
    Well analyzed pre & post-Scenarios of nuclear-armament of Iran & the region. There is no doubt nuclear armament of Iran will bring a turmoil to this region & Pakistan would be the most effected one…….as having close relations with all stakeholders….except Israel……

    As living in KSA for last three year & having Saudi friends…….Saudis & other Arab states will never tolerate nuclear armament of Iran as this will challenge their hegemony in Region & most important religion. This insecurity could result in nuclear armament of other Gulf states either by USA nukes or their own…….we should never forget they both have fought proxy (sectarian) war in Pakistan by financing rival sects……we already suffered from Saudi (Sunni) & Iran (Shia) rivalry ….as having both sect followers in significant numbers……

    Iran has full right to use nuclear tech for peaceful purposes but acquiring nukes will only destroy the peace & balance of power in MERecommend

  • Reply Kamran Bangash Dec 14, 2011 - 5:06PM

    Nuclear Iran is not in Pakistan’s interest! Then what? We should attack their installation before they get one.

    But infact its not like that. Arabs specially the Saudi consider Iran a threat to their leading role in the Muslim world specially the Middle East. And being a Saudis Banana Republic, how can we remain silent for ever on the matter. Once we get paid , we will start hue and cry.Recommend

  • Reply Ziber Dec 14, 2011 - 5:24PM

    looks like you hail from Saudia, and educated in America!
    I dont know how to comprehend your stats on the matter of nuclear Iran, on the hand when your nation itself made the nukes for defensive purpose for balancing power equilibrium in region. Iran has every right with the kind of band and straps they have on their economy by world powers, to guard their sovreighnity. Theyhave all the rights to build up nukes whether to guard themselves or to make equilibrium in terms of defense or power!
    you dont see the nuked India and Israel as threat to your country but feels a pin in your heart for your downcast approach for the bortherly relations with Iran, Perhaps it oggles manly on your native land america whose secret agency’s recruiting system you are a fan of, or it dares the hypocrytical Saudis with fervour which cast a spell of turmoil to your religious corners!
    perhaps looks like a sectarian biased article rather than a regional articulation!Recommend

  • Reply Ali Dec 14, 2011 - 5:34PM

    This peice sounds like amreeki propaganda – obviously the author has fallen for the US line that Iran is not trustworthy!!!

    and BTW its not Iran that funds the Taliban that would be the major US ally called USA!!!

    this article is a completely loaded with US propaganda!Recommend

  • Reply Kamran Bangash Dec 14, 2011 - 5:37PM

    Just pasting his own sentence will make it clear what is on his mind.

    “One should also not forget that Iran has played a role in inciting sectarian violence in Pakistan, supporting various Shia factions against their Sunni counterparts.”

    The bias in the article is clear and cannot be taken seriously.Recommend

  • Reply Ali Tanoli Dec 14, 2011 - 8:18PM

    @Shahzeb,
    After what happend in iraq and afghanistan i think every muslim country should have it man
    and i will prefered iran over israel what u think at least they read Kalama and love Ahley Baith
    EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE VERY CLEVER AND FOX………..Recommend

  • Reply Usman Ali Dec 14, 2011 - 8:42PM

    Its completely ridiculousness to consider a nuclear and powerful Iran a threat to Pakistani interest. Powerful Iran would curtail the the hegemony of west in the region and what better suits Pakistan, a country already under the immense burden of western pressure to do more. The author expressed his biased mentality by blaming Iran for the sectarian problems in Pakistan.Recommend

  • Reply Hassan Dec 15, 2011 - 12:42AM

    I want to clear few points the writer raised here.

    1) Pakistan and Saudi are allies? No absolutely not. Pakistan is a Sunni (tolerant) society where as Saudia is a Wahabi (intolerant) society, yes ruling class of both countries are allies because both are steeling money of the tax payers.
    2) Shias of Pakistan love Iran? yes that’s very true. Why shias love Iran ? Actually Shias love Iran, Iraq, Arabia Africa, Pakistan India China Europe, Australia, Japan, Newzeland Argentina…….. Because, the Land the Trees, the Oceans, the Air all created by Allah. Everything on globe belong to Allah. Human beings are only user on the Globe. Being creator he ordered us in Quran Obey Allah, Obey Prophet and Rulers on you (Shia Muslims believe Imams and Mujtahids as divinely ruler where as other Muslims don’t now who is today ruler on them, so they can obey him as according to obligatory Quranic directions). Now wherever the people follow this divine ruling, Shias love them regardless where those people live. Basically Shias believe all believers as one Umma throughout the Globe, These small small countries are just administrative arrangements and not divine arrangements So loving your brother in faith is totally compatible with Quran and Nature, no one can stop it, because these are feelings of hearts. Now one more scenario, should Shia hate other people living in their neighbor? Absolutely not, Because its again Quran orders to have good relation with your neighbors and relatives(weather they are Sunnies, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Zoroastrians, Atheist).
    Also, its obligatory on (Shia) Muslims depend on their capacity and situation to stop the tyrants(Zalimeen, weather they are so called Muslims or non Muslims). Struggle against zulm with hand, with tongue or at least in the heart is wajib.
    Last one, Killing the innocent fellow human being is a big crime according to Quran, So a (shia) Muslim can never kill others. Yes if some one attack you then defending yourself is also obligatory according to Quran. I think this is the biggest safety assurance for the world peace. If people understand this Quranic ruling, then there will be no fight on the face of earth.Recommend

  • Reply Narrowminded Dec 15, 2011 - 1:50AM

    Many Pakistanis are more loayal to Iranian interests than Pakistan’s. That’s the tragedy!Recommend

  • Reply Cynical Dec 15, 2011 - 3:31AM

    Shia Iran with Nuclear Bomb + Sunni Pakistan with Nuclear Bomb = Ummah has nuclear bomb.Recommend

  • Reply Pakistani- Londoner Dec 15, 2011 - 7:47AM

    @Shahzeb Shaikha:

    No offense mate but rather poor selection of topic. I am sure you can do better then that (having read your previous posts). Sometimes its best to accept if made a mistake (we all do) :) it helps….

    The legitimate argument is, Why should we make it a concern if Iran in 50+ years haven’t invaded our sovereignty and can be economically beneficial in every possible way if it wasn’t for our incompetent govt …..
    Every country has its own set of friends and foes, Iran has never qualified as an threat, let alone enemy being an enemy… hence its bogus carrying on debating further…

    About time should start digging next topic…something hopefully makes bit more sense…Recommend

  • Reply SAC Dec 15, 2011 - 8:58AM

    The assertions in this blog can easily be mitigated if Pakistan realigns its geopolitical policy and aspirations. The moment we start free thinking, in the light of our Creator’s instructions, Iran becomes one of the very few reliable allies Pakistan can have, So having a nuclear Iran as your ally and neighbor is the best we can pray for…

    We must once again start thinking about building a power block of nations with similar geopolitical aspirations, i.e. Land of the Lord, governed by His creation, as per His clearly devised Charter…

    The Creator has geographically created that block already. We just have to claim it.

    Imagine Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, entire Middle East, half of Africa (Egypt, Libya, Sudan, etc) and part of Europe, (Turkey, Bosnia, etc). What great resources, wealth, human capital and geoplitical clout. If EU can have it, why can’t we????

    We just have to open up our minds, have a heart, ignore the differences and cling to similarities, which are overbearing in our case, i.e. Allah, Quran, Hadith & Sunnah….

    Our objective should be simple. PEACE. (Salam). because we have been given this name also by the Creator, (Muslims).Recommend

  • Reply Saad Raees Dec 15, 2011 - 10:51AM

    @Narrowminded: sir you really are narrow minded, no one here prefers what is in Iran’s interest over what is in Pakistan’s interest .. We are surrounded by 3 nuclear powers already, India (our supposed arch rival), China ( who claims to be our friend, but hardly shows it, remember the 1971 war when Pakistan asked for China’s help and they simply refused?) And Russia (a country we broke into pieces, together with the US) .. If these countries are not a threat to us, the how could Iran be? And again, who are we to stop them and in turn make another enemy?Recommend

  • Reply Shahzeb Shaikha Dec 15, 2011 - 11:22AM

    @Pakistani- Londoner
    You are entitled to your opinion and so am I. Also, this is no mistake. I stand by what I have written. If you think that you have the intellectual capacity to write a counter-argument, please do so sir.

    I think you can do better than to just disagree and blow it off, as is the case with many who are commenting here. Also let me correct you. Where in the blog have I said or stated that Iran is an enemy and that it has intentions to invade Pakistan? Please read the blog carefully before you draw broad aspersions about something that has not been written.

    As for why should we make it a concern, may be you can revisit an atlas and see where Iran and Pakistan fall on a map. It seems that London’s fog has blurred your geographic vision.

    You mentioned “Iran has never qualified as an threat.” Well, I disagree. That is your assumption. And a nuclear Iran can become a threat. Strategic priorities can change. You can’t blow it off the back.

    Again sir, I stand by every word of this blog. If you think this is a poor selection of topic, may be you can enlighten ET’s readers with some London tales.

    Best Wishes.Recommend

  • Reply Saad Raees Dec 15, 2011 - 11:23AM

    Hassan you can’t blame the whole Saudi society for being intolerant .. And if Saudis are intolerant, we are far more intolerant than them though we are “Sunnis” .. Remember the violence created by our “Sunni” muslims for a killer named Mumtaz Qadri .. I would suggest we look at oursleves first before we blame someone else .. And Iraq its Sunnis killing Shias, not Wahabis!Recommend

  • Reply Saad Raees Dec 15, 2011 - 12:22PM

    @Shahzeb Shaikha:
    You have the right to say what you want to I agree .. As far as the ‘picking up the atlas’ thing is concerned, I would remind you again that we already are surrounded by 3 nuclear powers, one more won’t be a big deal! And again, we have no right to intervene in their matter .. Plus Iran’s nuclear program would be to protect itself against US and Israel, not Pakistan.Recommend

  • Reply Shahzeb Shaikha Dec 15, 2011 - 12:59PM

    @Saad Raees
    Thank you for commenting. Yes we are surrounded by 3. But must avoid being surrounded by a forth. Regardless of what Iran’s interests are, that should not be Pakistan’s concerns. Iran going nuclear creates security risks for Pakistan, in addition to more prospects for war in the region. The purpose is to stop someone from getting nukes, not disarming those who already have it. That’s just the reality of things. Those who have it, well, there so much one can do. Those who are ambitiously pursuing it should and must be thwarted and stopped.

    Best.Recommend

  • Reply Saad Raees Dec 15, 2011 - 1:38PM

    @Shahzeb Shaikha:
    I still don’t agree that Iran should be stopped for any reason because I still don’t believe they would pose any threat to Pakistan, but for the sake of arguement, even if I assume that they would pose a threat to us if they go nuclear, what right does Pakistan has to stop them? No Right! Plus the Arabs, Americans, Europeans, and Israelis have been trying to stop them for decades, what’s the result? A more stubborn and determined Iran. Plus trying to stop Iran would be making another enemy for Pakistan. And again though the Iranians hate Ahmedinijad, they consider their nuclear power their national pride and won’t let it go just because Pakistan feels threatenedRecommend

  • Reply from India Dec 15, 2011 - 3:59PM

    Dear Pakistani bro, if you think that the west will fight a war with Iran, then you are 500 % wrong. Iran and US will never ever go for a war. If there is to be a war, then it will be with a war in the middle east among all the Muslim countries while Pakistan will be dragged into it. Doomsday, if it has to happen will happen only to the believers and not the kafirs.Recommend

  • Reply shoaib khan afridi Dec 15, 2011 - 5:36PM

    Excellent article. Shabash this blog writer.Facts about Iran-israel-united states axis.
    1. Arab countries has billion trillion dollars budget. They can make thousand atom bombs but united states stop them from making them and it is the compulsion of US to use statesment against iran or impose some sanctions otherwise united states-iran-israel intentions will be clear and gulf countries will start nuclear weapons. So commentators do not be deceived by mere statements of iran or israel.
    2.Reply all commentators that why united state removed anti-iran governments from afghanistan and iraq when iran was threatened from both. If israel really wanted to destroy iran then both countries were to be very helpful.(understand this hypocricy)
    3. Whose blood is being shed in afghanistan. It is sunni who fight and fought west and russia. This time pro.iran tajik and uzbik army are ruling and supporting nato while sunni taliban are fighting.
    4. Three arab israels wars of 67,69,73 fought. How much iran participated.
    5.Thousands sunni fought and martyrd in fight against west in afghanistan including thousands sunni drone victims. Just mention a single shia mujahid killed in drone or in afghanistan.
    6. Syria is ruled by a minority and he is killing thousands sunni. west is not taking action to strengthen iran.
    7. Iran and united states are natural ally and why we will like to see a west ally with atom weapons.
    8. What about so great oil and gas reserves in iran. Is that not enough for peaceful purpose energy. When iranians have not fought with israel neither they fight in afghanistan then their atom bomb is only for uae,saudia, pakistan.
    9. In afghanistan there is direct clash between pakistan and iran. Iran was supporting north alliance while pakistan pashtun group. This will occur again and is happening again. Will commentators still like to see iran with nuclear wearson when pakistan and iran fight for a friendly afghanistan. If yes then those commentators are not pakistani citizens. They should migrate to iran if not interested in this country.
    10. Why is iran raising hue and cry while ground reality is that not a single western killed by them. Ground realities is that west and sunni are killing each others in afghanistan
    So In the last i pay tribute to my lovely express tribune and to this blogger and also advise commentator that never never take side of any country when that is being compared with own lovely pakistan. Otherwise supporting iran and taking against pakistan is violation of treason rules.
    If writer like pakistan to have atom bomb then he is right. He is just talking in favour of his own country. Has iran ever sent you chicken roast. It is your own country which provide you food&shelter&water. Be patriotic. ThanksRecommend