Google Plus: Epic Fail

Published: September 18, 2011

Google decided to take on the giants of the social networking world - and failed.

If Google+ crashes and nobody is using it at the time, does it make a sound?

When I told my friends that Google+ was dying, they looked at me puzzled. Turns out they couldn’t believe it wasn’t already 6-feet under.

Google was already in every nook and cranny of your private life but it wanted to dig deeper. The company came out with a Facebook clone to do this and is even now congregating and contextualizing all the very possibly embarrassing data that it has on your life using its new social network.

However, somewhere along the way to Google competing with Facebook, something went horribly wrong. Maybe it was the middle aged executives who were tasked with building a social network for teenagers (Facebook’s management team is significantly younger). Maybe it was all the things that they wanted to incorporate. Who knows. But Google+ is failing quite miserably. And might be dying.

More and more research is saying that activity is dwindling. One of them said that its posts decreased 41% in the last two months. As if that wasn’t enough, most of the things that Google+ came up with, Facebook mimicked in no time and gave their healthy user base no reason to shift to Google+. No wonder Zuckerberg signed up for Google+ as soon as it was up and running.

Google used to be innovative at some point. But then it became a big company and started buying up smart ideas instead of coming up with them. Blogger, YouTube, Motorola Mobility and Double Click to name a few.

I used to think Google was smart; no longer.

Anyone who launches a social network with limited invite-only user base is frankly stupid. I mean, there you are trying to make an exclusive club that you are not sure anyone wants to go to. And you’re limiting the people who are going to get it.

Thanks, but no thanks, I’d rather go to the club that already has my friends and all the hot women I want to stalk. I got an invite to Google+ as soon as it launched and I signed up with all the satisfaction of someone who has gotten into an incredibly exclusive club, only to realize that there was no one there.

As if that wasn’t enough, Google knows that one of the biggest reason the internet is on Facebook is so that they can stalk people. And with its security settings making that almost nigh impossible, who is going to come to Google+?

But no,  Google is not going to give up. These guys have enough money to keep this project going well beyond its abandonment by everyone smart.

Its going to be like a bad indian soap opera. Its going to keep on going regardless of how bad it really is.

omair.zeeshan

Omair Zeeshan

Corporate Account Manager by day and photographer by night. He can be found on Twitter @OmairZeeshan

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • http://www.googleplusblog.co.uk Scott

    This is exactly how Facebook started when Myspace was king though. You have to remember that Google+ is still in a beta invitation phase and has already achieved 20+ million users, something that took Facebook more than 800 days.

    It’s definitely early days and expectations are too great at the moment.Recommend

  • http://ovais-envisage.blogspot.com/ Muhammad Ovais

    OK! Over here you have said nothing but to portray your self as a guy who just doesnt likes something. There are no clear points which go against google. The reasons whi didn’t liked are same I faced when i joined facebook. So grow up and give time to technology. You never know what you end up doing anyway!Recommend

  • M Ali Khan

    Google has become the next Microsoft.

    And Bill Gates can only look on snicker in smug amusement.Recommend

  • Faysal

    I thought I will never see hate against google.

    Today this changes.Recommend

  • Illuminatus

    lol i agree the only good thing about it was the hangouts other than that :/ n that facebook is gonna get after the skype issue.
    but still there might be some juice in G+ but the chances are slim.Recommend

  • http://entertainment-lobby.blogspot.com Akif Shamim

    Nothing is fail if they give public something fun in start. They have used non professional people to handle google plus project and thats their biggest mistake. they can still make it right.Recommend

  • A. Khan

    EPIC bs. everyone is trying to be a blogger these days. i wish you have had a quick look at the history of facebook, how did it manage to survive. sick bloggers.Recommend

  • Faraz Talat

    Google+ is undoubtedly better than Facebook, whose privacy controls are a messy nightmare compared to the cool, circles system offered by its competitor. Sure Google+ has its bugs, but that’s understandable considering that it’s a new network.

    Unfortunately, Google+ just isn’t good enough to convince people to transfer their all online social activities from a solid base on Facebook to a completely new platform. A shift like that requires something exceptional. Google+ is very good…but not exceptional.Recommend

  • Lourdes

    You do of course realize that google+ institutes and enjoys ‘private posting’ to circles and that hasn’t shown in the metrics for privacy reasons? Forbes made this mistake as well… tell me you looked into that before your inbox is flooded :)Recommend

  • http://www.themanagementskills.com Rashid Rupani

    “I used to think Google was smart; no longer.” – I agreeRecommend

  • http://www.googleplusblog.co.uk Scott

    @A. Khan: No need to be hostile, we are just pointing out that Google+ has only been running less than three months, I doubt that is enough time to call it an “epic fail”. Even Facebook is taking some of it’s features since the release…Recommend

  • Adriano

    Haters gonna hateRecommend

  • Diplan

    Omar’s profile description in Gppgle Plus:

    “Journalist@Tribune. PR Nightmare. Propaganda Machine. Photography buff. Opinions own.”

    Enough said……Recommend

  • Allan

    I agree with A. Khan but made the comment and took the decision to stop (being a blogger) over three years ago.

    The only thing that you have managed to do with this post is to explain your interest in social networking but you packaged it as the reason for the interest in Facebook.

    Personally I’m glad that the morons who came, saw and soon realised that there was nothing to see (stalk) on Google+ are leaving.Recommend

  • omg!
  • Majid Ur Rehman

    @Scott: MySpace has never been a king. It was always a pain in the ass to use. Worst social ( or whatever!) website I’ve ever come across. Orkut was a king though but as soon as Orkut became a slut, facebook became a king. Yes, it is right that people did not come early to facebook but it was due to facebook’s bad structure for new sign ups which only allowed to sign up if your school is on the list of facebook, i.e., a student of Govt. high school cheechu ki malyan was not able to sign up as his school was not registered in facebook.Recommend

  • Aftab

    Ok this guy is a moron! Its not even officially launched yet! Do you see a single ad of it? Do you see it on Google search page? Do you see it anywhere on YouTube (other than Hangout option)? Trust me, the day Google unleashes this beast, its gonna give FB one hell of a run for its money. If they wanna give something a push, they are probably the only company who can do that on a HOLY CRAP scale. Imagine seeing a banner every time you open Google search page? a YouTube video? on your Android phone? check your email? location? It’s gonna happen, they’re just taking their time to do it right this time.

    I’m not saying everyone is gonna just quit FB and switch over, that will probably never happen. But its a worthy option and I’m looking forward to it growing and people getting on board. Right now it’s got nothing (ok fine its got Angry Birds and Zynga Poker) to really entice users, but once they rollout all their features (and they’re rolling out a new one almost every couple of days) and go open, its gonna be massive. Look at how Facebook got so big. They had like 2 years beta testing period in various universities before they finally opened to public. And at that point, everyone was begging because, all the opinion leaders in youth circles (who were obviously smart enough to go to college) were on it already.

    Therefore my advice? Sit tight, and hold on to your poop just a little bit longer. It went into beta testing like 2 months ago, give it a chance at least!Recommend

  • chucky

    I agree 100% with this article. I have been saying from day 1 that it is stupid to make this an exclusive club. Only a few a my friends are on it, so I rarely come to use it. Recommend

  • Eric

    complete BS story. Why are you on G+ then?Recommend

  • Ace

    Hmm…it’s in beta? Anyway if you want invites enjoy https://plus.google.com/i/mGeXqW5hug8:qoQ3Ft1Ljt4Recommend

  • Michel

    Not using any of the “new stuff copied by FB” on G+ nor on FB

    Haven’t seen any of the 1000 people I follow having left yet.

    Only go to FB to repost cool stuff from G+ – am interacting 1000% more with ppl at G+ than I ever did anywhere else.Recommend

  • http://whoisbid.com whoisbid

    I think after Google have released the Youtube Cosmic Panda and ridden youtube of the “friends” and only the subscribers are left it will probably unleash Google Plus onto it.
    If Google make a way for plus users to have an advantage of being found in search engines then facebook is gonna have a very hard time. Everyone will go where the money is. It is not about technology but money. If you can have Google Adwords on your Google Plus account then people can make money using Google Plus.Recommend

  • Kurt Obermeier

    I’m happy to leave all the kiddies and their asinine invitations to their mind numbing games on FB. There are more intelligent and useful conversations going on in my stream on G+ in one hour than I could ever get on FB in a week. Recommend

  • AF

    @Author “Its going to be like a bad indian soap opera. Its going to keep on going regardless of how bad it really is.”

    Really now? It seems, to sound like a regular son of the Land of the Pure, it is a given that you have to trash the Indians. Recommend

  • g+ lover

    Fb was launched with more limitations on who could join.

    Also, g+ is not even finished yet. This article is horrible and is only trying to get readers by shock factor.

    Facebook wishes it were google. Recommend

  • Tom W

    This is the most wrong, uninformed opinion I’ve ever read.Recommend

  • Tim Morrison

    Two words:
    1.paranoid
    2.google+haterRecommend

  • http://www.facebook.com/noman.ansari Noman Ansari

    OK, I am sorry, but I just don’t like this article. I am not even a fan of Google or any of these companies for that matter, but this piece doesn’t make much sense. Keep in mind, that Google Chrome had a similarly shaky launch, and has now won a lot of fans.

    It is just not that the article is based on personal feelings, and not even facts, but the condescending tone of the article made it a shame to read.

    So, OK, here we go:

    When I told my friends that Google+
    was dying, they looked at me puzzled.
    Turns out they couldn’t believe it
    wasn’t already 6-feet under

    So when a child runs alongside a man in a triathlon, are you going to say the child is dying because it can’t compete with the man who has had significantly more time to mature?

    Google was already in every nook and
    cranny of your private life but it
    wanted to dig deeper. The company came
    out with a Facebook clone to do this
    and is even now congregating and
    contextualizing all the very possibly
    embarrassing data that it has on your
    life using its new social network.

    I just had a look in my nook and cranny, and I don’t see Google anywhere. So you are saying that Google is some stalker, that created Google+ to spy on us?

    And here I was thinking that it created a competitor to Facebook, because social networking is highly lucrative for businesses, and a big money maker. Silly me.

    If you are going to make such a sweeping statement, please reference your claims.

    Google used to be innovative at some
    point. But then it became a big
    company and started buying up smart
    ideas instead of coming up with them.
    Blogger, YouTube, Motorola Mobility
    and Double Click to name a few.

    But that’s a smart thing to do, to buy something that has tons of potential.

    I used to think Google was smart; no
    longer.

    You just told us about something smart Google did recently. If they aren’t as innovative as you think they should be, that doesn’t mean they aren’t ‘smart’ anymore.

    Tell me, is it better to invest capital in new ideas, the majority of which are bound to fail, or smarter to buy projects that have obvious potential. I think we differ in our understanding of the term smart.

    Anyone who launches a social network
    with limited invite-only user base is
    frankly stupid. I mean, there you are
    trying to make an exclusive club that
    you are not sure anyone wants to go
    to. And you’re limiting the people who
    are going to get it.

    Hi, let me tell you about the most popular email service in the world, gmail, which in a few years made hotmail look like a ghost town.

    You do remember that gmail started as invite only?

    So Google is stupid, right? With the evident track record of gmail, I am pretty sure they know what they are doing.

    Thanks, but no thanks, I’d rather go
    to the club that already has my
    friends and all the hot women I want
    to stalk.

    Funny, no, creepy, yes.

    I got an invite to Google+ as soon as
    it launched and I signed up with all
    the satisfaction of someone who has
    gotten into an incredibly exclusive
    club, only to realize that there was
    no one there.

    So you tell us you got an invitation to the first day of an exclusive club house, and you are complaining that it was emptier than the other club house you came from, which has about a gazillion years to build its clientele?

    Is that what you really, are telling us?

    But no, Google is not going to give
    up. These guys have enough money to
    keep this project going well beyond
    its abandonment by everyone smart.

    You’ve just absolutely contradicted yourself with that statement.

    Its going to be like a bad indian soap
    opera. Its going to keep on going
    regardless of how bad it really is.

    This article reminds me of a good Indian soap. Oh wait, those don’t exist. Recommend

  • Rick

    First.. it isn’t older people making a social network for teenagers, since many at Google making Google plus are young and that G+ doesn’t allow anyone under 18 to join. I remember a day when journalist did research before just saying any old thing!Recommend

  • Umar

    @Scott:
    But this is isn’t how Facebook started. I was studying at one of the American universities that had the “exclusive” membership on facebook when it first started. And I remember, that exclusivity was really sought after. Upon entering college from High School, all the students from invited universities wanted to become a part of this new social network where the college elite hung out. Google +’s exclusivity is nothing like that. Recommend

  • Steve Powers

    Epic Fail Blog

    Dear Author,

    your piece was excessively wordy.

    “I have no friends, I hate Google” would have sufficed.

    Good luck with your Google killing goals in 2011

    your friend,

    SteveRecommend

  • zelrik

    That’s BS. I have more contacts on G+ than FB, and my contact list is growing. Google didn’t even start to push it forward, I say Google+ is here to stay.Recommend

  • http://www.beelious.com Nabil

    lol too much of criticism on this blog post Well i think he is quite right too some extent. You know Facebook didn’t have any data of their perspective users (i.e. User had to fill a form etc) but Google on the other hand is a big company , heavy resources and Millions of people already using Google services. So 20 Million users’ figure is not enough you know time has changed now.

    I actually also register on G+ like 1.5 month ago but i now i didn’t had anything in my mind like ” there is something called g+” yes i was very excited but then it didn’t had anything innovative.

    beside how G+ will beat Facebook’s APIs? you know i think they’ll have to come up with something really innovative! really!Recommend

  • Nadeem Ahmed

    All social network sites will die when economy get going and users find jobs.Recommend

  • http://onlinemlmclassifieds.com Laur A. Bundberg

    I would not go do far to call G+ fail in so early ground. Everybody is trying to copy FB, just like dating sites, it is a business, FB is a great business model and to be successful in business you have to copy them who are successful. Money has become too important, thw more you have it the less risks you want to take.Recommend

  • Dave

    Google Fanboys all have the similar opinions as the comments above. Unfortunately for Google the only people using G+ are these such google fanboys so no constructive criticism can be made of their product because the Google Apologists love every single feature..not because it helps them connect with their friends, nor even that it’s at all good…it’s just because it’s made by Google.

    Google probably think they have an amazing product, but can’t understand why people are leaving in droves. It’s because they’re listening to the fanboys…instead of the silent majority who turn up and realise what a plain copy of a product it is. Its almost exactly the same (except with less features…and a LOT less people, and less of your friends)

    Apologists will cry out that it’s totally different to Facebook, that it offers so much more…but errr….reality check needed guys. It’s definitely dying, if it isn’t dead already.Recommend

  • mats

    Dave: read this survey which is as recent as 15 sept: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/9/prweb8776542.htm

    “Among current Facebook users, 13 percent are currently also using Google+. Among Facebook users who are not currently using Google+, 57 percent say they “definitely” or “probably” will use Google+ in the next six months.”

    a survey like this is definitely much more of a reality check than you just asking some friends.

    if the site “only” reaches about 75 million users of the right kind then it’s a hit… remember that twitter “only” has like a 100 million active users and it is doing quite fine.

    just because g+ isn’t for you doesn’t mean it will necessarily go belly up.Recommend

  • http://www.mymodev.com Asher

    Please spare us of your opinions which are clearly unfounded and lacking depth of any sort. The reason Google+ is invite only AT THE MOMENT is because its in BETA. Writing a technology article you should have had the common sense to research the reason behind Google+’s invite only phase.

    Google+ is a very serious contender to Facebook, there are technical glitches with almost every project that acquires so many subscribers in its infancy, Google+ is clearly no exception. Calling it a failure on this basis is immature at best when the project has not even opened to public as yet. I hope you know Gmail was also invite only in its Beta phase, not because it was an ‘exclusive club’ but because it was undergoing extensive testing.

    And FYI, before you even heard of Facebook, (when it was in its infancy) it was pretty much an exclusive club that was only open to certain colleges and their students. Recommend

  • Dave

    @mats:
    You assume I’ve only asked my friends? Well why don’t you check the vast amounts of data showing Google+ on a huge decline (and if you don’t trust any of those, why don’t you check internet traffic for Google+ in Google Trends…no buzz anymore around it). And don’t use the fanboy excuse for the decline of ‘people might be doing private posts’ because those fanboys don’t understand statistics. A massive decline in public posts implies a decline in private posts as well.

    Now I can very easily completely dismantle the credibility of the data you’ve found. “18 percent of respondents report using Google+” Are there 135 Million users of Google+? No. Credibility destroyed.

    Twitter has 100 million active users. but how many active users does Google plus have? It has 25 million signups…but how many are active. I suspect surprisingly few.

    I’ll come back in a few months to say ‘I told you so’. :)Recommend

  • hello

    Interestingly,the author is only available on Google+ and does not use Facebook. #hypocrite.Recommend

  • http://www.poltrack.net John Poltrack

    @Noman Ansari: Thanks excellent response to this silly rant. For laughs I suggest you check out his public stream on G+.Recommend

  • Argon0

    @Dave:

    If you are going to trash someone else stats, at least get them right!

    @mats said:
    .”> “Among current Facebook users, 13

    percent are currently also using
    Google+. Among Facebook users who are
    not currently using Google+, 57
    percent say they “definitely” or
    “probably” will use Google+ in the
    next six months.”

    You said he quoted 18%. The article states 18% or respondents said they were using G+, goes on to say 13% of Facebook respondents said this.. (it all depends on the survey size, how relevant and scalable these figures are – 1000 American consumers, so you then have to restrict your size of FB ers and G+ers to American consumers only to get some sort of usable stats, also FB has 70 translations, AFAIk G+ has no official ones yet.

    US Users of Facebook: 133,518,980 (from http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats26.htm) would equal ~ 17.4 million American G+ers, is that so hard a number to believe? Especially as G+ had 25 Million users in its first month!! (by your quoted article).

    Doing a search in G+ for users with “a” in their profile name comes up with 43.2 million results today (19/9/2011) – though this stat needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, I can’t find a reliable stat for no. of users on G+ right now..

    Prior to that you say:

    And don’t use the fanboy excuse for
    the decline of ‘people might be doing
    private posts’ because those fanboys
    don’t understand statistics. A massive
    decline in public posts implies a
    decline in private posts as well as well.

    First, no need to insult “fanboys” saying they don’t understand stats.

    Second: It may imply it if you don’t take into consideration that people are learning to use G+ better, and stopping sharing everything publicly. A lot (probably not a majority, yet) of the posts I get now are restricted in their circulation, to the circles I have created, or am a member of.

    Example behaviour of a G+er:
    Day 1: post everything publicly, no-one is following me yet
    Day 2: Hmm what are these circle things, Ah, lets add my friends, and invite those not here yet!
    Day 3: OK, lets post personal interesting stuff to my circles, other stuff to public
    Day 4: What’s this nearby thing on my Android/IOS app? Lets use that to post stuff about this seminar I’m, in…
    Day 5: Whoops… People don’t like me posting loads of twitter like notes into the nearby stream, lets turn that location thing off, and just post to my co-worker circles instead.
    Day 6: OOoh what’s this new add-on for Chrome from +Mohammed Mansour, that lets me filter my stream?

    etc… (the above is a combination of several G+ers experience, but is no way exhaustive research…)

    OH BTW: your 41% reduction stat does that include posting comments to original posts? Which is where a lot of conversation goes on?

    BTW 2: I’ve cross posted this to G+ here: https://plus.google.com/102221067073073008496/posts/hSbCJcwQwRuRecommend

  • Argon0

    Hmm, original post not here yet?

    Anyway:
    BTW has anybody checked the article this article refers to, and then followed that to the original research? Hmmm???

    The stat (41% decrease in posts) comes from a site {http://bit.ly/rhmfJV} that offers a tool to post to/link both G+ and twitter feeds, it notes a drop from 0.68 posts a day to 0.4 posts a day, on average. It says “To date 7280 people have linked their Google+ accounts to Twitter using our service” [my emphasis]. Surely that figure (7280) gets lost in the noise of 25 (or is it 43) million+ G+ users?

    Oh, and presumably its only posts which get posted to both twitter and G+ – hmmm – it seems this is primarily a Twitter tool, which posts twitter stuff to G+ too… Now if I post to G+ and twitter, I’m more likely to do it the other way around, and use +Mohamed Mansour ‘s Extended share add-on to cross post to Twitter/FB/etc….. Recommend

  • http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/author/264/huma-iqbal/ Huma Iqbal

    After all the bans on social media networks at work, Google+ is my only respite and refugee from boredom and staring the screen for long. As for the writer of this piece, he makes a very strong element of my time there. In other words, just love this guys humour!;) Recommend

  • Dave

    @Argon0:
    “The article states 18% or respondents said they were using G+, goes on to say 13% of Facebook respondents said this.. (it all depends on the survey size, how relevant and scalable these figures are – 1000 American consumers, so you then have to restrict your size of FB ers and G+ers to American consumers only to get some sort of usable stats”

    “US Users of Facebook: 133,518,980 (from http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats26.htm) would equal ~ 17.4 million American G+ers, is that so hard a number to believe? ”

    NO! Completely statistically wrong! You can’t simply ignore the rest of the world because it suits you. The statistics imply that 13% of Facebook users are currently using G+. Unless the users are exclusively American (which they aren’t) then you have to consider the rest of the world. Let me give you an analogy. I ask three German Facebook Users whether they use Google+ – two say yes, one says no. I can now (completely inaccurately) guess that 2/3 of Facebook users use G+. I cannot say ‘all G+ users are German’. Which if you look at it is almost exactly what you’re saying. I now feel totally justified saying Fanboys don’t understand Stats. Your data is complete rubbish – it’s probably from a poll on G+ with hugely weighted data. 13% still implies almost 100million users of G+. Unless you assume almost all the users are American (which is obviously complete **). I would drop that particular stat and focus on something else if I was you.

    “Day 1: post everything publicly, no-one is following me yet…
    Day 6: OOoh what’s this new add-on for Chrome from +Mohammed Mansour, that lets me filter my stream?”

    Aside from this being mere guesswork – surely that almost spells the end? I’ve never really thought hiding posts except from maybe 10-20 people was a good idea. I can see that from my Facebook ‘close friend’ list (you know, a circle system implemented where I actually have friends) It’s ok for a change, but I prefer the standard newsfeed. It’s certainly nothing properly revoluntionary. And thats with a fully intergrated friend base, it’d take G+ years and years before I build up the same kind of Friend base.

    What actual distinguishing features does the G+ social network even have against Facebook? (And if a fanboy even dares say you can find out about and talk about interesting topics with strangers…that is NOT a social network, that is a glorified forum. And the idea of a forum is nothing new.)

    People keep comparing G+ figures to Facebook uptake figures in 2004/2005/2006. Well newsflash guys…it’s almost 2012. Technology goes a long way in that time, the game has changed somewhat. What would have worked then, doesn’t necessarily work now.Recommend

  • Trolltastic

    Y’all is posting in a troll thread.Recommend

  • Marcelo L

    It never ceases to amaze me the narrow-mindedness, and zygotish mentality of so-called “internet journalists” today.

    Look, we get it. You’re an anti-google fanboy. How about actually doing some research for a change. See if you’re opinion isn’t just a little undercooked ( Which this one apparently was/is, at least judging from the overwhemling responses refuting your assumptions. Remember, they’re not assertions if you can’t back them up. ).Recommend

  • BigBoy

    Given the authors track record of precise predictions, it might be time to buy some Google shares:

    “All in all, HP has a recipe that spells disaster for all of its competitors.” ->
    http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/4540/hp-on-the-war-path-touche%E2%80%99-google-and-apple/Recommend

  • http://usamarehman.blogspot.com/ Mohammad Usama Rehman

    Its not Google, bro!!
    Its that our hands our full…..we already have twitter, facebook, blogspot and now google +!!!!!
    after having 133 friends on FB how can i ever think of leaving them!!!
    the problem is some people have started assuming that they are dealing with machines!!!
    come on Guys!!!
    we are humans!!! can anyone ever force me to do something that is related to friends, relations or emotions……NO, NEVER!!!
    I AM A HUMAN BEING!!!!
    the irony is human beings themselves are not understanding human beings!!! what a Pity!!Recommend

  • Andy

    Dave I have already answered this over at G+, but, for those that aren’t over there too…

    .> NO! Completely statistically wrong!

    HUH.. OK I’ll read on…

    You can’t simply ignore the rest of
    the world because it suits you.

    I don’t…

    The
    statistics imply that 13% of Facebook
    users are currently using G+. Unless
    the users are exclusively American
    (which they aren’t) then you have to
    consider the rest of the world. Let me
    give you an analogy. I ask three
    German Facebook Users whether they use
    Google+ – two say yes, one says no. I
    can now (completely inaccurately)
    guess that 2/3 of Facebook users use
    G+. I cannot say ‘all G+ users are
    German’. Which if you look at it is
    almost exactly what you’re saying. I
    now feel totally justified saying
    Fanboys don’t understand Stats. Your
    data is complete rubbish – it’s
    probably from a poll on G+ with hugely
    weighted data. 13% still implies
    almost 100million users of G+. Unless
    you assume almost all the users are
    American (which is obviously complete
    **). I would drop that particular stat and focus on something else if I was
    you.

    OK… 1) READ MY COMMENTS,
    2) READ THE ARTICLE

    Salient points: I’m not American, and never been convicted of fanboyism, pedantry, yet, fanboyism no…
    I DO know stats.
    The data is from a study by a market research firm I don’t know from Adam, however, they state: They questioned 1000 Americans.

    Thus any conclusions can only be drawn against the AMERICAN population.

    It PATENTLY cannot have been a G+ poll as only 18% of those questioned used G+. Of those questioned that used Facebook 13% also used G+.

    A VALID (But probably incorrect) calculation from these figures would be that 18% of all AMERICANS used G+ (A whopping 56 MILLION people).

    The stat I used was that 13% of people that used FB pleasealso used G+ – using your figure for FB users (150 million) gives ~ 19.5 million AMERICAN users of G+ which (IMHO) is not an unreasonable number.. BUT the sample size is probably too small to make such a claim – and NOTE I have not made a blog post claiming this.

    (please notice the consistency I have of only talking about AMERICAN’s above).

    You on the other hand have used stats from (what I consider) a dodgy source to claim G+ is dead/dieing. Interestingly Geek.com have a similar take to mine on your stats.

    G+ is still in limited circulation, it does not (seem) to offer official versions in languages other than English (FB has translations to 70+ other languages) yet.

    I don’t claim to KNOW that G+ will be a success, but I have yet to see anything convincing to say it won’t be.Recommend

  • CS_1991

    Google+ actually brought me to this article through their sparks, and I have to agree with what a lot of commentors are saying – facebook was exclusive, but Google+ is different… I like it so far! Recommend

  • LA

    Haters gonna hate, I love Google.

    This article is a conspiracy by Apple Fanbois. Shame on you all. Recommend

  • http://djdurrani.blogspot.com Saad Durrani

    I wish the writer was thirteen years old, so I could’ve smiled and told him that it was a good try and he needs to work a little harder if he wants to be analyst when he grows up, but sadly, he is not. Whoever writes these technology blogs on ET must be high on something really good. Earlier, one of the writers here predicted HP would be a force to reckon with. Months later, HP decides to close down the business.

    While analyzing, it is best that one attacks his own theory too. Google+ is an unfinished product.Recommend

  • Waseem

    “I used to think Google was smart; no longer.”

    Google is not innovative? are you crazy? heard of android? heard of tons of apps on Google? they are all run by google.. FREE OF CHARGE…. companies like samsung and nokia are all using android for their phones.. What is this guy talking about.. Are you living in some village of Pakistan where nawaz sharif and zardari are the only two leaders of the world and PTV and GEO is all the entertainment you get? because surely you have no idea of what Google has given and is still giving to this world.Recommend

  • dan

    you are apsolotely loney

    and its invite only because its in beta Recommend

  • http://www.cellmart.pk Imran Farooq

    Google+ actually is in building process and learn a lot from market competitors so they are making social media that focus on User’s demand, the most awaited feature of Google+ is “Fan Page” or “Business Page” lot of users asks this question on different forums but not clearly from google. I must say google not only changes the world of computing also take leadership in mobile phones with its OS “Android.”.

    Imran Farooq
    http://www.cellmart.pkRecommend

  • Joel

    Hey Gmail was exclusive for the longest time and now it’s huge!Recommend

  • Dennis Gabil

    Google+ just needs to lift age restriction for its newbies. Right now it allows only for 18 and above. Recommend

  • RLS

    …says the guy with the Google+ widgetRecommend

  • Karl

    There’s a hell of a difference between being on Plus, and USING plus. I’m on there, so are many of my social network friends – but 99.5% of our communication and activity is on FB or Twitter. There’s no need for Plus – it doesn’t make anything easier, better or cooler. Sorry, but the social train has left the station; time for Google to find other means of transportation.Recommend

  • Ayesha

    InterestingRecommend

  • MAHENDRA YADAV

    Its too early to predict About Google + is it fail or pass.
    It’s a Ghost Town as of now but it will be a big hit as per my understanding because
    1. They are very Strict when it comes to Fake name/Profile (Giving them an Edge over Facebook)
    2. It will play an important role in Future Search (The concept of Social Search)
    3. User Privacy + Security (Facebook shares our info without much of restrictions)
    4. Brand pages/profiles are yet to roll out.

    Thanks
    Mahendra Yadav
    Founder Social BlogRecommend

  • Rameez

    LOLS!! really can’t stop laughing after reading this exquisite piece of humour.You are trying to evaluate the popularity of a social network that hasnt even launched completely. Dont know from where did you get the statistics because I really doubt that Google will themselves make it public that users are losing interest in their recent initiative. You should have atleast checked out the features properly before exclaiming that its a “CLONE” or “REPLICA” of facebook. This analysis is quite judgemental and superficial. At least there should be a check from someone having technical expertise to retain the reputation of this blog. One more thing if you are there to “hook up” with some hot women there then beaware as FACEBOOK aint a place to hook up nor does it support it. Many losers/perverts have lost access to their accounts in their hunt for chicks. No offence!! Recommend

  • JR

    Google+ sucks. They are banning people for “not using their real names” when they are, then giving them a ridiculous number of hoops to jump through to reinstate their accounts. For a service that only 5 of my friends are using and 3 never post on, I should SEND THEM A COPY OF MY ID?! All so that they can be certain that they are MARKETING TO THE RIGHT PERSON?! Because we know that’s really all they are doing – collecting your names and addresses so they can send you spam based on what you write about.
    Boycott Google+!Recommend

  • Krish

    G+ is an empty planet. There is no society or social networking in an empty planet. Sorry Google. I logged in with excitement first time, but not anymore. I do not have a job more than 5 min in G+. Nobody sees my photos, videos.
    I post something in FB, I get comments and my closest of close friends and relatives sees it immediately. Google should have invested in some other thing, or atleast bought FB as they bought android and became king of mobile market.
    But I wish G+ fails because, Google knows too much about us which is not good.Recommend

  • david c

    i like this article, well done. i like thisRecommend

  • Izy

    Hmm… you’re comparing Google+’s 3 months of existing to Facebook’s 7 years, I don’t think that’s pretty fair.

    In my opinion, Google+ will have no chance against Facebook if it remains a similar social site, Google needs to realize it’s selling point is it’s integration factor. Many people have their homepages set to Facebook (for social reasons) or Google (A nice, simple, homepage), when I noticed Google+ users also see notifications on the Google homepage I was sold.

    Mobile devices are pretty much the center of many people’s lives currently and a lot of people are adopting Android for various reasons, Google and take advantage of a new Android adopter by giving them an option to sign up for Google+ when they first activate the device. Integrating it into the device will also be a plus, no not an application, fully integrating it.

    Got a high score on a game? “Post to wall” button
    Looking at a picture you just took? “Share with friends” in the option menu.
    Added a new person’s number in your phonebook? If it’s tied with their G+ account, send an automatic request.Recommend

  • Pyar.Pakistan

    I love G+ and I hate Facebook. Recommend

  • Pavan

    @Scott:
    Live in your dreams The market is already saturated and g+ doesnot have anything significant to offer. It’s just fb cloneRecommend

  • Pavan

    @Muhammad Ovais:
    Stats speak for itself g+ got a big user base. temme tell you the reason behind it coz google shows it everywhere in their website be it search, mail, docs etc. But outta that huge user base they achieved in a few months only a handful people use g+ so where’s the point that g+ is popular and would flourish. It’s an epic failRecommend

  • Steve Powers

    @Pavan shill much?Recommend

  • john

    tl;dr
    Thats a total rip off of the Gizmodo article posted today. Tribune should look into this matter as people are posting copied articles from different tech sites here.Recommend

  • Argon0

    @john:
    Posted today? Where? Note this was originally posted September 18th….

    Not that I agreed with it then, or now…Recommend

  • alizgraphikz

    I uses facebook and google+ both … but seriously on google+ it feels like i am standing on a desert …… :)Recommend

  • Argon0

    @alizgraphikz:
    You are doing something wrong then…

    I find something new (and often interesting) pops up every few minutesRecommend

  • charlesj

    It’s funny to see Google swimming in sort of the same waters at Msoft these days, both very successful companies, both pioneers in their respective fields, but in some ways unable to break through in others even with great products. Iin this case Google Plus and WP7 and Bing. I don’t hear many people saying much about Bing being terrible, I just hear people saying it’s just not enough to leave Google. The same for Google Plus, it’s just not enough to leave Facebook, and the big difference between Plus and Bing is Bing is actually growing, but Plus is taking major losses daily. I went there twice, but I can’t imagine why I would ever be going back, there’s just nothing on there to do. Recommend