Forced conversions in Pakistan: “Eeshwar kaun hai, Allah bol Allah!”

Published: November 8, 2014

This type of conversion is its own example in idiocy and nonsense. Not to mention, it is an outrageous violation of the amicable teachings of our religion. PHOTO: REUTERS

Scuffles and screams rang through the dark night. They were three and they were burly. They had her in a firm grip with her mouth gagged with a rough cloth. It was probably 11 or 12 o’clock at night. Not very late for a summer night but half the village had no electricity, so people turned in early.

Her screams could have woken up the neighbours, if they had any. Theirs was a mud hut in a lone corner of the basti. She desperately tried to make as much noise as possible but it was of no use. The men had tied her daughter up completely now.

In the faint glow of the oil lamp, Kumari looked at her. Her eyes wide with horror, Kumari silently pleaded her mother to free her. Reshma Bai attempted to attack one of the captors yet again with renewed fervour but she was knocked down. They carried Kumari across the small courtyard and to the gate; Reshma Bai struggled back to her feet as quickly as her arthritic knees would allow and ran screaming after them,

Hamari bachi ko na le jao bhaiya jee! Eeshwar ka wasta tumko bhaiya jee! Kumarriii!

(Don’t take our girl away brother! For God’s sake, brother!)

Paying her little heed, they put Kumari in the back of the car. One of the men turned back, striding towards Reshma Bai; he slapped her hard across the face. The bearded man said to Reshma, scathingly:

Kafir napaak aurat! Allah bol Allah! Eeshwar kaun hai? Teri beti ko Allah nay chunna hai. Usko Kalima parha kar paak karlengay hum aur phir shayed kisi Muslim larkay se shadi bhi krwa dein. Shukriya adaa kr hamara! Agar tu nay kisi sey shikayat ki tou main gala ghont doonga tera! Kafir munkir maar kar sawaab milay ga!

(Infidel, unclean woman! Say Allah! Who is this Eeshwar? Your daughter has been chosen by Allah. We will make her recite the Kalima so that she becomes pure and then we might get her married off to some Muslim boy. Be thankful to us! If you so much as utter a word about this to anyone I’ll strangle you! Killing infidels will earn me rewards!)

Seeing him up close, she recognised his face from somewhere but she couldn’t recall and then they drove away with her only daughter. As Reshma Bai sat down on the ground sobbing, she called out for her husband who had gone to the town but deep down she knew, at this point nobody could have saved her daughter.

Reshma Bai is one of the many mothers living in rural communities of Pakistan who have seen their children being abducted by the forceful men of the region to convert them forcibly to Islam. These people are the lowest link of the societal ecosystem which makes such blatant exploitation possible to happen to them. They are the lower caste Hindus living in rural areas of Pakistan. Their lives are a round-the-clock misery that involves abject poverty and a lifetime of insult at hands of all other dwellers of the region as their own kin look down their noses at them.

Their rights in the constitution make them entitled to equal or even more rights as citizens but in reality, their plights are untreated and worse, unheard. Alongside the already bleak circumstances, they are also falling victim to cases of forced conversions and marriages of their women specifically. Reshma Bai’s account is a fictional depiction of the helplessness of a lower caste Hindu mother in saving her daughter from being snatched away.

The real case in question these days is that of the Meghwar family. Their adolescent daughter has been abducted and forcibly converted to Islam. After the conversion, she was married to a much older man. This revolting behaviour on parts of our fellow countrymen is appalling to the extreme.

Our society unknowingly suffers from a terrible disease. The syndrome of tenacity and antiquity, which grips our minds, is a deadly force that stagnates our thinking to such degree that we lash out to destroy everything that is even slightly different from our perceived notions. This impairment causes some of us to point fingers, malign, judge, argue with or in extreme cases such as the above mentioned one, force the other person to convert to our set of beliefs.

I am aware that people will argue and criticise this as ‘degrading the country as a whole’ for the actions of ‘a few individuals’, and that my write up is ‘depicting Pakistan is a negative light once again’. But my question to them is, why are you sitting silently and allowing such atrocities to take place? Is this silence not tacit approval? If we are not fighting it, have we not accepted it? And if we have accepted it, we have permitted it. And that is exactly why all of Pakistan is responsible for the act of the few that indulge in this atrocious crime.

This disease is the reason that each and every one of our daily interaction involves judging others against a list of high end morals and traits that we generate to straddle our giant egos. In some cases, it stops at making stinging remarks, and in others, it can go as far as physically forcing someone to embrace our beliefs.

This type of conversion is its own example in idiocy and nonsense. Not to mention, it is an outrageous violation of the amicable teachings of our religion.

But however dreary the situation may seem, there are still many who are holding up the skies above their heads. There are still people who embed amity among one another because they recognise people not by skin colour, language or religion but by their humanity. The problem lies in our recurrent sense of apathy though. We lie back in comfort listening to such incidents on television, shaking our heads in disapproval but in for all practical purposes, we are doing nothing. Unless we highlight the issue at multiple forums loudly and clearly, the message will be smothered into abysmal depths of ignorance.

In order to broadcast the message of Islam, the only conversion required is in our own behaviours. I strongly condemn this act of cowardice by our people against a downtrodden minority. It is disgraceful for us as a nation and as Muslims. It has to be stopped.

Fatima Raza

Fatima Raza

The author is a Biosciences graduate and a student of MPhil International Relations. She aspires to be an accomplished writer someday.

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • نائلہ

    Oh how I wish this was in “poetic license” rather than “welcome to Pakistan”.

    I especially loved what you wrote in the last passage. Recommend

  • Nouman Ahmed

    It has to be stopped. How will it stop?

    People should change their behaviours. Why people will change their behaviours?
    Problems: Yes. Solutions: No.
    You have merely stated facts which everybody knows. It would have been better if you had suggested how to change this.Recommend

  • Observer

    What happened with the young couple is indeed very sad. I feel the bigger issue is managing the power of any Pakistani who has it. I have seen similar scenes when the railway police ruthlessly demands money from passengers travelling to India. The week over there are slapped around by officers infront of officers.Recommend

  • Prashant

    “But my question to them is, why are you sitting silently and allowing such atrocities to take place? Is this silence not tacit approval? If we are not fighting it, have we not accepted it? And if we have accepted it, we have permitted it.”

    Could not agree more, just imagine a child dying in Gaza by Israeli bullets or a riot happening in India where Hindus have killed Muslims and you will see the furore.

    The non Muslims in Muslim majority countries would never be safe and neither would they enjoy equal rights until the time the Muslims believe in nationhood over the hallucination called umma.Recommend

  • 19640909rk .

    Good article. But will it melt any Pakistani hearts? They are hell bent on converting non-muslims to Islamic fold. Nobody wants to raise their voice against this injustice. The common man on the street is of the opinion- if a women is kafir- she is a fair play.Recommend

  • Rahul

    Pakistan is becoming the paradise its founders wanted.Recommend

  • ab1990

    I am happy that forced conversions are happening in pakistan. We will use this opportunity to forcefully convert every muslim in india to hinduism in coming years. Already we have started but speed is going to increase even more in coming years.Recommend

  • BlackJack

    20 years from now Kumari’s kid will be telling us that there is no compulsion in his religion.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    1. Get rid of Mullahs.
    2. Make pakistan secular
    3. Slowly but surely, you will see a changeRecommend

  • Ali Fahad Raza

    This piece of writing portrays somehow the true
    glimpse of our mis-conceived & mis-interpreted religious doctrines
    in many aspects whether it’s forceful conversion or killing of
    minorities by deeming them as blasphemers etc.. There is a acute need
    of safety net for minorities in this country through constitutional
    means because vulnerabilities of minorities are multiplying day by day.
    Recent sad story of burning alive a pregnant woman with her husband is
    not only against Islam but alien to humanity.Recommend

  • Nouman Ahmed

    How to get rid of Mullahs is the biggest question. Care to answer?Recommend

  • dhaal

    That is sick.Recommend

  • Nouman Ahmed
  • نائلہ

    1. Keep an eye over what they (each and every single one of them) preach

    2. Anything violent, use either footage or other evidence to give them a warning. If he repeats, jail for 1 month minimum without bail. Do NOT allow them to get out without serving their sentence- for this we need a credible Police force.

    3. Name and shame every one of them who go to jail. That way those who are not convicted of yet will think twice before preaching hate. Its not “religious preachers” that are the problem, its the fact that they get away with anything and now have the greed for power- this is what needs to be put back on track.Recommend

  • Nouman Ahmed

    And who is going to do all this? Government? Common people?
    Educated lot? Come out of your paradise. How people will change their attitude and why will they change? Around 90% people think it is not even an issue and 10% are those who are not going to do anything about this even if they know the gravity of situation.Recommend

  • loboran tamzi

    I am a hindu and I urge you not to write idioticallyRecommend

  • loboran tamzi

    I am a hindu and I urge you not to write idioticallyRecommend

  • نائلہ

    Are you a giver upper? So dismal! Then it would be better for you to not waste your time on this conversation.

    If no one cleans the garbage, its not going to get clean. Get it? Now you can go back to your “paradise” and continue ignoring whatever is going on in your country; cos of course, one person cannot be a catalyst for something major right? It has never happened in history and will surely never happen in the future.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    Are you a giver upper? So dismal! Then it would be better for you to not waste your time on this conversation.

    If no one cleans the garbage, its not going to get clean. Get it? Now you can go back to your “paradise” and continue ignoring whatever is going on in your country; cos of course, one person cannot be a catalyst for something major right? It has never happened in history and will surely never happen in the future.Recommend

  • siesmann

    Islam or interpretation of it needs to come out of 7th century into 21st century.And someday people around the world may believe what its apologists present it to be.The image of Muslim in the world is a bigot, and a terrorist;and it is unlikely to change with such episodes happening daily in the Muslim world.Concepts such as Ummah and Caliphate are relics of history,and should be forgotten.Recommend

  • siesmann

    Islam or interpretation of it needs to come out of 7th century into 21st century.And someday people around the world may believe what its apologists present it to be.The image of Muslim in the world is a bigot, and a terrorist;and it is unlikely to change with such episodes happening daily in the Muslim world.Concepts such as Ummah and Caliphate are relics of history,and should be forgotten.Recommend

  • Lalit

    but who will bell the cat ?easier said than done…..the way Pakistan is advancing,every next day seems more horrible than the previous.Recommend

  • Lalit

    but who will bell the cat ?easier said than done…..the way Pakistan is advancing,every next day seems more horrible than the previous.Recommend

  • Sherie Scheck

    There are extremists in all religions.Recommend

  • Sherie Scheck

    There are extremists in all religions.Recommend

  • wb

    Technically and theoretically impossible.

    Idea of conversion, let alone force conversion doesn’t exist in Indic religion, even though some people have started their own way of doing this.Recommend

  • نائلہ

    Dont feed the trollRecommend

  • Nouman Ahmed

    You have got reasons to be happy then be happy. I have got reasons to be sorry for current affairs of Pakistan so I am sorry. I asked you a simple question and when you could not answer that, you just told me that I should not waste time on this conversation. Talk about tolerance…huh.
    Secondly, you asked me if one person can’t be catalyst for something major? I am asking the same question who is that one person?
    It has never happened in history that people changed their behavior all of a sudden. There is always something behind all the changes in history and I am asking again who will be that “something”? Government? Common people?
    Educated lot?Recommend

  • ab1990

    truth is bitter.Recommend

  • https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=8559594100366660134#allposts Supriya Arcot

    Err I have absolutly nothing against ( for that matter – FOR ) any particular religion . Just to clarify some basics about Hinduism .How does one get into it ? by birth . so how does one get out of it ( to become an ascetic or to ‘go’ into some other religion ) ? ,simple – its only by that 5 letter word starting with D and ending with H. I am noy advocating / defending / offending any single religion here. I am merely stating some facts. There is nothing like ‘ baptising’ not or out of the Hindu religion.Recommend

  • L.

    HA! I dont see any truth in your claim.Recommend

  • L.

    If you are sorry, then do something about it! Choose a leader who will take these actions! Btw i dont support IK if thats what your thinking.

    Common people- and i never said they will change all of a sudden. You change something within yourself- like from today, you will not speed. You will obey all traffic rules etc. By word of mouth, 2 maybe 3 ppl will begin following you…..and so on. All I am saying is, one cant just sit there and go: “I have no power to be able to make a change, tell me some other name which should hold all responsibility”.Recommend

  • SuperNeo

    this was/is/will part of life. its just media has stated printing , after few years media wil start writing article in favor of religious crime,Recommend

  • Prashant

    “There is a acute need of safety net for minorities in this country through constitutional
    means because vulnerabilities of minorities are multiplying day by day”

    Undoing the laws directed against the minorities would be a good start, constitutional guarantees for non Muslims are a distant dream in a country where the state itself practices a particular religion.Recommend

  • Kundan Jai Shankar

    It have been taught for 21 years of my life that Eshwar and Allah are same thing.
    But here Allah seems to be the horrible one.
    Wish for the day when we get rid of those ridiculous Mullahs.Recommend

  • hp kumar

    how convenient is to say this??Recommend

  • Alann

    Recently JI of Pakistan demanded chapters regarding “Two Nation Theory” and the “Ideology of Pakistan” be re-introduced in school textbooks, and even got PTI to accept them.
    Forced conversion is just one of the problems in Pakistan, and they are just going to get worse from here. Why? Because they’re not looked at as “Problems” but rather as stepping stones towards complete Islamisation of Pakistan. Someday, like the Afghan Taliban came to power in Afghanistan, the TTP or the IS or whatever new radical faction will be ruling Pakistan with direct/indirect support of mullahs. And people even then would be busy blaming “others” for their problems instead of taking any initiatives themselves to fix things. (Calling the mullahs RAW/CIA/MOSSAD agents would be easier than taking efforts to improve Pakistan)Recommend

  • siesmann

    Safety net will only be effective if Mullahs are sidelines.They are the worst offenders of Islam and humanityRecommend

  • siesmann

    What caste will you take them into?And why there are laws against conversion in some states of a democratic country?Recommend

  • siesmann

    True;But one religion definitely excels in it !!!Recommend

  • Hozur

    ThejRajput women had a solution for this,they would light fires and jump into it than be abducted.They did not want ot be converted or sold much less abused.Paksitan should make arrangements with state funds if need be for Hindus to leave the country with dignity and honour to a country of their choice.It is not right to subject any women from an relgion to this indignity and as the author says it is the silence of the majority which has given the confidence these crude poeple to behave in this manner and at that in the name of religion.No wonder many nations are wary of this country and its actions.Recommend

  • BlackHat

    And doing the same thing (what happened with mother) to his cousins !!!
    Recommend

  • Zee

    Oh Pl spare us from your hatred for Islam and Muslims! Pl be informed that Islam is the only religion spreading across the world and non Muslims are proudly converting to Islam. Recommend

  • Zee

    How conveniently you made the point for Indian and Gaza Muslims to defend the atrocities of Isralei and Indian LEAs. Just a day ago, indian army in Kashmir killed two innocent Kashmiris and then you are talking about the furore.

    Dear, you are not so different from us in Minority handling and Umma is not the hallucination, it’s the pillar of Islam.Recommend

  • Zee

    It’s amazing that one can generalise the few incidents of forced conversion and start maligning Pakistan. How come wrong doings of some individuals can be labeled to all Pakistanis or Pakistan?

    Author, what you did for stoping this? Just writing a blog will not stop this either! A famous saying for you ” it’s easier said then done”.Recommend

  • BlackJack

    … and delusion is sweet. We get it.Recommend

  • Humza

    So ironic; saying “Allah bol Allah” – isn’t the verb bol Hindi / Urdu. They pretend to be such proper Musljms but insist on speaking Hindi / Urdu. The idiotic people who are trying to convert others should at themselves and their behavior first. I see how they celebrate the conversion of some confused wayward Westerner here in North America while so many Muslims themselves live on welfare and don’t work but abuse the charity of Christians all over. Given the chance all of these Muslims would run away to a non muslim land like Tahirul Qadri who claims to be such a great Muslim but lives on social charity in Canada.Recommend

  • Parvez

    Liked your thought process and the reasoned way in which you argued that.
    My personal view is that when the government is apathetic on this and the people polarised or helpless and importantly when religion is at issue……something called a natural progression takes place and most times it leads to an implosion, possibly with serious repercussions……and this won’t be the first time in history for something like this.Recommend

  • Snehil Sharma

    And his religion is a Peaceful religion.Recommend

  • Snehil Sharma

    It has become a daily problem.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    As usual Fatima Bibi why don’t you issue a ritualistic statement: ” This is not Islam.”

    A logical rational person would then ask you why don’t you call the abductor as Gopal Krishna Gandhi. Since 99% of Pakistanis behave like Gopal Krishna Gandhi, officially Pakistan is a Hindu country. You and government of Pakistan needs to issue a farman that hereafter each and every Abdul in Pakistan is officially a Hindu Amar, a Salman = Sanjiv, Bilawal = Bihari, Nawaz = Narendra and so on…

    This way Islam will remain pristine and there is no daag on it.Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    As usual Fatima Bibi why don’t you issue a ritualistic statement: ” This is not Islam.”

    A logical rational person would then ask you why don’t you call the abductor as Gopal Krishna Gandhi. Since 99% of Pakistanis behave like Gopal Krishna Gandhi, officially Pakistan is a Hindu country. You and government of Pakistan needs to issue a farman that hereafter each and every Abdul in Pakistan is officially a Hindu Amar, a Salman = Sanjiv, Bilawal = Bihari, Nawaz = Narendra and so on…

    This way Islam will remain pristine and there is no daag on it….Recommend

  • Salim Alvi

    ??As usual Fatima Bibi why don’t you issue a ritualistic statement: ” This is not Islam.”

    A logical rational person would then ask you why don’t you call the abductor as Gopal Krishna Gandhi. Since 99% of Pakistanis behave like Gopal Krishna Gandhi, officially Pakistan is a Hindu country. You and government of Pakistan needs to issue a farman that hereafter each and every Abdul in Pakistan is officially a Hindu Amar, a Salman = Sanjiv, Bilawal = Bihari, Nawaz = Narendra and so on…

    This way Islam will remain pristine and there is no daag on it.Recommend

  • Ram

    It is century old tradition those who are forcing Kumari to convert are a convert same with more brutality centuries ago, there is nothing you can do about itRecommend

  • siesmann

    A 40 year old man abducts a 12 year minor girl,and claims willful conversion.Happens in a state where it is illegal to marry girls below 18.And aPir corraborates the story invoking Islam.The man absconds and is running from the law.Only in Pakistan this can happen.Unbelievable!!!!Recommend

  • J T

    Lol! Absolutely nailed it.Recommend

  • Raj – USA

    Mullas are not the ones who are converting hindu and christian girls forcibly. Nor do they preach this. How many times have anyone heard a message from a mosque where a mulla asks muslims to convert others? Do the CD’s and pamphlets they distribute contain this message? I would say, no, and if at all, it is very rare. Chief Justice Iftekar was not a mulla. Supreme Court of Pakistan was not a mosque or madrassa or a jirga court. All kidnaped girls are brought to the family homes of muslims where everything further is done to them.

    Mullas preach killing of shias or followers of other sects. They target males. Muslim homes preach conversions and they target girls. Muslim homes, and not mullas or madrassas are the ones that preach their children that it is their religious duty to convert others. They do not preach their children that the only and proper way of conversion is by setting yourself as an inspiring example of values and virtues that would inspire others to convert. Had this been the case, everyone would welcome conversions.

    In Pakistan, all converted hindu and christian girls are pushed off to prostitution within a few months by the muslim who married her with the support and assistance of his family members. If mullas had wanted to increase their numbers, would they have been advocating such treatment of the girls who have converted to Islam? There were articles I have read in ET itself that say that even after their conversions, the muslim families call then “Chooris”. Would mullas be advocating such treatment to those they themselves have converted? I would say that the mullas would be preaching that the converted girls be treated equally as their own, whether the conversion it is by force or consent. What would it say? The muslims use religion to rape and their muslim families know and realize it and this is the only reason converted girls are sold off to others.

    Why is it that muslims of Pakistan who claim that all conversions are with full consent, be the girl 6 or 12 or 16 or 25 years old yet do not allow any of her family to meet them after their conversion? Is it because islam is such a week belief that the girls can be dissuaded to convert back or, is it to hide the facts of the conversions? Would any Pakistani muslim,its media, its courts or any political party take actions to bring out at least a few of the girls who have been converted in the last 1 – 10 years so that the facts are known to everyone. After all Pakistani muslims would post videos and interviews of any convert who has done it willingly. Then why hide these hindu girls? Won’t it not encourage others to convert to Islam if the converted girls speak high of islam and how their lives have changed after their conversion?

    Blaming mullas is aiming incorrect target.

    P.S.: Many conversions to christianity involve offering inducements. I have no problem with that. The only issue I have is if the try to convert others by talking bad about other religions which only promotes hatred. If they convert others solely on the strength of their religion, I have no problem. Importantly, after conversion, the christians take care of those who have converted. Muslims of Pakistan do not do this to the hindu and christian girls they convert.

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  • PrasadDeccani

    There is nothing like conversion in Hinduism.

    I heard Arya Samaj is introducing the concept of conversion, but, I don’t think that is going to take off. Just a personal opinionRecommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    Without doing ground work how are you going to do all this?

    It’s like saying let’s build a Fortune 500 company.

    You have to change the narrative of Pakistan for this to happen. How will you do that? You can’t even recognize the Islamic Seperatism for what it was and call Jinnah secular using his one off speech.

    How will you undo he teaching of two nation theory which has led to the dominance of mullah politics and anti India(read anti Hindu) narrative?

    Lofty ideals without practicability.Recommend

  • wiserneighbour

    I only blame the minorities who missed the pulse of hatred when Pakistan was carved out of India due to religious hate to others.Here there was no nationalist feeling.It was all about Ummah . They should have migrated to India.People who did not want to leave and stood their ground due to whatever reason,look at them now?Can any Indian Muslim say such things are happening to them in India? The current state of pakistan is slowly becoming a banana Republic . Recommend

  • Sid

    I am Hindu India, and I love the diversity we have. Only people I wont miss will be another fellow Indian like you who do not respect other’s ethnicity or religion.Recommend

  • Sid

    Good excuse to let this act happen in open. There are extremists in all religion true. Its the degree and percentage of these extremists what matters.Recommend

  • Cosmo

    Haa haa, a hindu should known that you cannot force convert in Hinduism!! Moron, keep your phony name and phony ideas to yourself. Recommend

  • hp kumar

    These r non issues for which Hindus should not be allowed to cross overRecommend

  • salman

    Really sad, all this savagely in the name of Allah. Giving Allah a bad name.Recommend

  • Abhee

    50 years from now the grand kids will be saying how they descended from Arabs and how anit-hindu and anti-India they feel. They will describe their identity as ‘not India’. And they will continue to demand Kashmir.Recommend

  • Banana

    “3. Slowly but surely”. By which time, your country will be exclusively Sunni and every other minority will have been killed/converted/driven-out.Recommend

  • Banana

    If you can’t be part of the solution, and when they are not ready to co-exist with others, then Nobody cares about your whims.Recommend

  • abhi

    I hope Kumari is brave enough to tell their kids the reality and may be future generation will get rid of this toxic ideology.Recommend

  • vinsin

    or her kids. Just like Many Muslims do.Recommend

  • vinsin

    Even after partition Indian has not become a Secular State. Indian Muslims still opposes and you expect that to happen in Pakistan, literally day dreaming.Recommend

  • Anupam Bhattacharji

    You have touched an undesired topic amid fundamentalists, i admire you for your writing in spite of being a Muslim and accepting the fact of your fellow pseudo believers of Islam.

    This is something which is taking place in India and other countries as well, wherever mullahs are trying to dictate their terms.

    Let Allah be the supreme and love other creatures of him to dwellRecommend

  • Supriya Arcot

    There is no in or out of Hinduism . Please get your facts right .Recommend

  • Aristotle

    Don’t judge a religion by a few brats.Recommend

  • Aristotle

    Our hearts ache more than yours when we hear such stories…It kills us to see how a few enemies of the religion are spreading something which is strictly forbidden in our religion…It breaks us to see that all the efforts we make towards peace will all go in vain because the world wants to see us as terrorists and after all we see what we want to see and hear what we want to hear…We will never be able to tell you guys how caring we are and how peaceful our religion is.Recommend

  • Xyz

    Idea of conversion is quite misaligned with Hinduism. One of the basic tenets is that there can be multiple paths to salvation and none is that much better than the other . That’s why Hindus generally do not believe in conversion or superiority of one religion over the otherRecommend

  • Arsha

    When a religion is based on the belief that it is superior to others, when a religion follows a ‘us vs them’ approach instead of universal brotherhood then extremism is much more probable. Happened in Christianity, happening with Islam.Recommend

  • Lalit

    sorry for interjecting,but you know what ,in Pakistan religious discrimination has been institutionalized. laws are the reflection of our collective wisdom,and when a legislature enacts laws like blasphemy or denying the Ahmadias, the right to call themselves Muslim than you become sure about the cancer of extremism have eaten into the vital organs of a society….which unfortunately is a irreversible process.Govt draws its power from the people and who do you think in Pakistan can take up the cudgels for removal of these laws,knowing fully well that the radicalized masses will not only terminate their political career but also threaten their lives.this extremist tide is very difficult to reverse…..Recommend

  • Meera

    oh really, I mean you are converting people into Hinduism in Bharat? Which part of Bharat? And do you know that Hinduism is famous for not proselyting people? Do you know few mulsims of Kashmir wanted to convert back to Hinduism and the pundits opposed it and didn’t let it happen. And if in case you will force people to convert to Hinduism then tell me what will be the difference b/w Hindus, Muslims and Christians?Recommend

  • Marriam

    Islam is strongly against forceful conversion nd so th ppl of Pak are.. the things are not so as they are interpreted..Recommend

  • shaolin321

    It is highly surprised why my comments are not being published ?Recommend

  • Kalia

    Make Pakistan Secular? Heheheheheheheh What about Israel?Recommend

  • shaolin321

    Useless site to run blogs. Editors are internally feared without unknown reason ? When comments will be blocked then what is meaning of discussion ? Be happy with your own “home made” conditions for blogs…bye-2 :)Recommend

  • Fareed Khan Afridi.

    Easy for you to say this. Since your tent is pitched in some . where in the West. Be glad that you can sit in comfort and dispense worthless advice, straight from a self help book.
    Care to go over and help them? Doubt you have the nerve.
    Just be glad. And thank your stars.Recommend

  • ask

    So in which Caste would you accommodate the converted as? Brahmin/Rajput/Baniya? Dixit, Thakur, Iyer, Patel, Shah. Or, Outcaste?Recommend

  • Ali

    Because when it comes down to the facts, mullahs will turn out to be correct. Mullahs will just cite qoranic passages and the liberal population won’t be able to oppose it. As simple as that.Recommend

  • Funny

    Sounds like a relative of the honourable Nathuram Godse.Recommend

  • RajeevS

    Just shows how intolerant muslims are of others.Recommend

  • Maximus Decimus Meridius

    Change can always come. Societies can change in an instant. Christians were massacred in Rome a few years before Constantine became a christian. So If you ask who will change, I would like to say that almost anyone can change. True the present state of affairs is abysmal but it can change, rather it will change.Recommend

  • rationalist

    I would like to believe you, but the 1400 year history shows exactly the opposite.Recommend

  • Humane

    ‘forcefully convert to hinduism’..what is to be achieved by this horror ? Increase of hindu percentage in the next census ? Nothing else..what kind of achievement is that..if someone is forced or beaten or burnt,he may re-convert outside,but in his heart,he will retain the philosophy which he truly believes in- so ‘forcible’ conversion is a pointless exercise. True conversion is always voluntary.

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  • observer

    That is simply not possible. Apostates face death penalty in Islam.Recommend

  • ab1990

    any caste. They can pick and choose their caste or else they dont need to chose any caste name. India doesnt have strict regulations when it comes to chosing any caste or no caste.Recommend

  • ab1990

    Well gandhi needs to thank godse or else he would died of heart attack seeing the amount of anti nationals and terrorists of other religions he allowed to stay in india.Recommend

  • ab1990

    when india said many times that osama was living in pakistan nobody believed it. But now no one in the world believes your country’s words after finding osama in your country.Recommend

  • L.

    Now that’s one rude comment. But then again, expected from yourself.
    If you have better advice, feel free to “dispense” (who says that word?!) it. Otherwise, do something about the condition of the country rather than blaming someone who you would have no problem killing once she is over there to “help”.
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  • نائلہ

    I put forward a point, I did not say a+b will result in c. Recommend

  • نائلہ

    By the looks of it…..lRecommend

  • نائلہ

    Who is this Gopal Krishna Gandhi guy you are plastering on 190 million people?Recommend

  • نائلہ

    Errrr and how is that related to your claim? Recommend