Gandhi’s forgotten sacrifice: A lesson neither India nor Pakistan learnt

Published: August 14, 2013

Nobody, nobody paid heed to Gandhi, neither Hindus nor Muslims. He was let down by all of us alike! PHOTO: AFP/FILE.

At ten minutes past five on January 30, 1948, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was crucified on the cross of bitter Hindu-Muslim blood feud. This resolutely courageous man endowed with an indomitable spirit kept fighting for the Hindu-Muslim unity until he was, alas, assassinated by a Hindu extremist. The Mahatma, however, achieved in death what he could not achieve in life; peace between the two communities, although it lasted merely a brief period.

The next day, in a most memorable tribute of all, the editorial of Hindustan Standard read:

“Gandhi ji has been killed by his own people for whose redemption he lived. This second crucifixion in the history of the world has been enacted on Friday – the same day Jesus was done to death one thousand nine hundred and fifteen years ago. Father, forgive us.”

Father, forgive us?

The father can forgive his children, but can we forgive ourselves for what we did to him? What did he get in return for all the sacrifices he made for the sake of Hindu-Muslim unity? He got nothing but three bullets into his stomach from a Hindu maniac and apathy from the Muslims. The fact of the matter is whenever Gandhi needed their support, both Hindus and Muslims, turned their backs on him.

True, Gandhi was deeply disappointed with the unhelpful attitude of the Hindus, but, he was equally hurt by the callousness of the Muslims. India’s Iron Man, the biography of Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel by Balraj Krishna, offers a vivid account of how Gandhi perceived Muslims’ apathy towards him and how he resented their uncooperative attitude. He seldom made his grievances against the Muslims public though, lest he should be misconstrued.

In the quiet, uncontaminated climate of the Yervada jail in 1932, and in the company of his most trusted colleagues including Sardar Patel, Gandhi, for the first time, revealed how much ‘sorrow and pain’ were caused to him by the Muslims’ attitude towards him in the Kohat communal rioting and at the 1931 Round Table Conference in London. In a depressed vein, Gandhi said,

“Whom should I tell the insults I have borne on behalf of the Muslims? For their sake I have drunk bitter cups of sorrow.”

One day while reading an Urdu school textbook, Gandhi admitted,

“The book pours out maximum poison. It was prescribed by the government as a textbook before the Hindu-Muslim conflict began; and today’s Muslim youth has been brought up on such books.”

On another occasion Gandhi referred to a fourth standard Urdu primer of Lahore’s Anjuman-i-Himayat, and regretfully observed,

“The reading of this book makes one sad. It appears the Muslim children are taught violence and bloodshed from their childhood.”

Gandhi told Patel and Mahadev Desai one day,

“Iqbal’s opposition to (single) nationhood is shared by many Muslims. Some speak out; others don’t. Iqbal now repudiates his ‘Sare Jahan Se Acchha Hindustan Hamara’ song.”

On another day, Gandhi asked Mahadev Desai to draw Patel’s attention to the distorted version of the same song in a government school textbook in Urdu. The song propagated Pan-Islamism, and its first two lines read:

“China, Arab hamara, Hindustan hamara; Muslim hain hum, watan hai sara jahan hamara.”

(From China to Arabia, the whole territory is ours; India is ours; we are Muslims , and the whole world is ours.)

Gandhi in a melancholic vein commented,

“The Muslim boys are brought up on such education. The book hasn’t a single lesson which should teach the Muslim boys that this country is theirs and they should take pride in her. Not only that. As a result, the Muslims have developed enmity with others.”

Gandhi’s regret was that all this was happening despite what he had done or undergone for the sake of Hindu-Muslim unity. Who can forget his heroic fast unto death, held to save the lives of those thousands of Muslims who were sitting ducks in Calcutta amidst the ongoing communal frenzy, in a wretched hovel at the city’s Beliaghata Road in August, 1947? Who can forget his last fast unto death in Delhi, after the cataclysmic partition, held to protect the lives of those vulnerable Muslims who had become refugees in their own country, and to ensure that ‘Pakistan gets its due share’?

Gandhi led the Khilafat agitation, boldly bearing attacks from senior Congress leaders, Hindu leaders and the saintly Britisher, CF Andrews. And it was at the Round Table Conference, which could have provided India with an opportunity to gain independence in 1931, that Gandhi met his Waterloo at the hands of the Muslims. Maulana Shaukat Ali had told the American journalist William Shirer:

“If the Hindus don’t meet our demands this time, we’re going to make war on them. We ruled the Hindus once. At least we don’t intend to be ruled by them now.”

This was the last straw that broke the camel’s back. Gandhi had to admit to ‘an inglorious end’ to his years of labours. According to Shirer,

“This failure, as Gandhi often said, was the greatest cross he ever bore.”

One day Patel ruefully asked Gandhi:

“Are there any Muslims who will listen to you?”

The truth is nobody, nobody paid heed to Gandhi, neither Hindus nor Muslims. Yes, he was let down by all of us; we deserted him whilst the forsaken Mahatma fought alone for peace.

It’s a pity that 66 years since independence we have not learned our lessons yet. It’s a pity that we are allowing his sacrifice to go waste.

Father, forgive us.

Sapan Kapoor

Sapan Kapoor

A history buff and India-based journalist, the author has worked with the Press Trust of India. He blogs at sehar-anawakening.blogspot.in/ and tweets as @dRaconteur.

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Saad

    Quaid Jinnah is more dear to us than Gandhi. We learn from HIM not from your bapuRecommend

  • Danish

    You’re right. None paid heed to him (Gandhi). If they do, India wouldn’t open fire at the LOC, and disturb the peace process.Recommend

  • BlackJack

    I am as uncomfortable with this tendency to deify Gandhiji and Nehru as I am with the secularization of Jinnah. Gandhi had one major contribution which was no-compromises on ahimsa as a means to achieving independence; this in turn has kept us as one nation in these last 65 years and is indeed his towering legacy for which the title of Mahatma is well-deserved; it is this principle alone that has inspired ML King, Nelson Mandela, Barack Obama and several others around the world. However, this must not be used as a means to shroud his shortcomings. I don’t think that he “secularized” the freedom movement or the Congress for that matter, which was already a secular movement, albeit led by a large number of Hindus in a country where the educated class was also dominated by caste-Hindus. In fact, by meddling in the Khilafat movement, Gandhiji sowed the seeds for communal conflict in South India (pls read up on the Moplah riots). My words may seem harsh, but both Gandhi and Nehru were only representatives of India to outsiders, and played important roles in achieving independence and respect for the Indian independence movement on the global stage. Within India, they alienated the caste-Hindus and the Sikhs by taking them for granted, the Dalits by talking down to them, and the Muslims on account of their inability to capitulate in the abject manner that the League required. The current Congress continues this glorious tradition of taking some communities for granted as long as they remain divided and pandering to others in the name of secularism. The more things change, the more they stay the same.Recommend

  • Parvez

    To be more balanced one must also talk of Nehru and his lot and their influence on affairs and not just Gandhi and Jinnah.
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  • Qaisrani

    We respect “Gandhi” alot and hope the dawn is near when people will adopt his “non-violence approach” to solve their mutual disputes.
    Long Live Pakistan and India. Peace forever.Recommend

  • Naveen

    Humanity has not yet evolved that far. It largely remains a dog eat dog society. Communalism, regionalism, nationalism and other such petty herd based mobilisation enjoy far greater influence than Humanism.

    So, the best course of action is what Gandhi himself said- Be the change you wish to see in the world. Think good, speak good and act good; and keep updating your definition of what is good by applying grey matter to own experience.Recommend

  • Freed

    @Saad:
    Jinnah was a divider while Gandhi a uniter, I think that fact in itself speaks volumes!Recommend

  • http://www.pltacademy.com Travel_Tart

    India/Pakistan need to learn from European Union!Recommend

  • Milind

    Gandhi is the root cause of the miseries here…. Driven by some insane ideology of unlimited ahimsa, he caused more trouble to the nation…
    He was a dictator who often resorted to blackmail to browbeat successful leaders – Bose, Patel, Jinnah.
    He reached out to the most regressive elements in the Muslim society during the Khilafat movement, which inflicted riots and pain on Hindus (leading to spoilt relations between these 2 communities) and later moaned the failure (This when Jinnah had warned him of “playing with fire”). The cause of the current miseries was due to lack of pragmatism and resorting to useless lofty idealism.

    No wonder Dr. Ambedkar termed him a successful humbug. This humbug ought to be relegated to the dark corners of history… India would have been better with a pragmatic Jinnah at his helm rather than GandhiRecommend

  • Maheen

    One fact should be admitted that both Hindus & Muslims are always two seperate entities.After formation of Congress muslims had to bear their tyrannical rule.Muslims were forbidden to eat beef.Those who slaughter “mother cow” were killed.Islam was humilated.Hindi was made the official language.In addition they launched “Vidya mandir scheme”
    according to Nehru,”There are only two parties in India,the congress & the British”
    Respect to both the leaders but there was no way out except PartationRecommend

  • Noor

    @ Milind

    Did you learn your history lessons in RSS school ?!Recommend

  • Nj

    India won it’s independence from the Britishers with lawyers at the front- M.K.Gandhi,M.A.Jinnahbhai,Jawaharlal Nehru…all barristers.

    Every conflict between nations in this world has lead to blood shed,pillage and plunder.M.K.Gandhi stands out as a unique example of having lead a nation to independence withour civil war with the Bristishers. A unique example of non-violence succeeding.
    Maybe the bjp should learn something from the father of the nation.
    It amazes me,that the RSS still exists-it was an RSS man who assassinated M.K.Gandhi for being too pro-muslim.Recommend

  • Nj

    India won it’s independence from the Britishers with lawyers at the front- M.K.Gandhi,M.A.Jinnahbhai,Jawaharlal Nehru…all barristers.

    Every conflict between nations in this world has lead to blood shed,pillage and plunder.M.K.Gandhi stands out as a unique example of having lead a nation to independence withour civil war with the Bristishers. A unique example of non-violence succeeding.
    Maybe the bjp should learn something from the father of the nation.
    It amazes me,that the RSS still exists-it was an RSS man-a hindu extremist nut job,who assassinated M.K.Gandhi for being too pro-muslim.Recommend

  • Ayesha

    I respect Ganghiji, He was an amazing man but our MA Jinnah was no less. Inspite of good intentions at heart, Gandhiji had to idea as to how militant and nasty his Hindu peeps will become. History is witness to all that Muslim oppression in Kashmir, Gujrat, Mahrashtar etc. RSS lives to convert all Muslims to Hindus cause, “they are those whom we have descended from. All Indian Muslims are thought backward as they are not given opportunity to climb up. They can only climb up the social ladder, if they marry Hindu women or leave their religion and bow down to Hindu Deities a la Shahrukh Khan.

    So, Gandhiji had his best intentions at heart, but it wasn’t meant to be. Recommend

  • Vinit

    @Maheen: the problem is no one try to adjust and respect other people belief.You want other community to understand and respect your belief but you are not ready to respect ours, that’s insane.And yes we let down Gandhi those who abuse him cant give logic they just use big big English words, they man gained nothing out of sacrifice non of his son or daughter is famous , he did not lived lavishly and we know peace protest is much powerful than violence.And eye for an eye is making the world blind and crazy. Take a flash back to 3000 year ago that time there used to be violent war between neighboring village it took us 2500 yr to understand united village and cities will be stronger.I wonder how many year it will take us to understand united countries can fight poverty,crime,environment issue better.Recommend

  • Nj

    India won it’s independence from the Britishers with lawyers at the front- M.K.Gandhi,M.A.Jinnahbhai,Jawaharlal Nehru…all barristers.

    Every conflict between nations in this world has lead to blood shed,pillage and plunder.M.K.Gandhi stands out as a unique example of having lead a nation to independence withour civil war with the Britishers. A unique example of non-violence succeeding.
    Maybe the bjp should learn something from the father of the nation.
    Recommend

  • Indi

    @Ayesha

    Why do people keep saying,muslims are backwards in India? I’m one of many examples who studied postgraduate medicine- my parents didn’t pay my fees-it was the Indian govt.-same as many muslim classmates and relatives in several medical college colleges. Same for my parents who’re doctors too. Every community has it’s share of rich and poor people-same with Indian muslims.Recommend

  • Vinit

    @Ayesha: do you have any idea about real india?? and being a women i thought you will be using Muslims as a community not only the Muslim men(“if they marry Hindu women”). And to bow is to show respect, and it is okay to give respect to other people’s belief.Apart from few fanatic and lot of facebook and news article comment, i have not seen more than 5-10 fanatic hindu or muslim in my life.We have many problem to deal with we cant afford to fight over whose belief is good.Its stupid and evil.And you should read history from 1100 AC till 15th Century who killed whom everyone knows.No it was not muslim killing hindu , it was afgan and irani killing indian, if you take pride in that than you deserve to call india aur pakistan your country.Recommend

  • Syed Hasan

    Its Ironic that a ‘history buff’ writes an article on Gandhi quoting him from Sardar Patel biography written by pro Indan narrative historian. Express Tribune hope you guys get (a) either in house hisotry editor, some one who can vet a the proof for you. FYI, Patel was the alpha villian in Congress, atleast this is what we believe on this side of the border.Recommend

  • Ali Tanoli

    now question is if we were together would it be better for us?
    majority ruled in democracy will india was that civilized ????
    can we solve our problems by ourself with out fighting????
    can we forget and live on………..Recommend

  • Queen

    We respect Gandhi and we expect the Indians to respect Qaid-e-Azam too. As a Pakistani, I believe in great Qaid-e-Azam’s principles more than the ones taught by Gandhi. If Gandhi preached a message of peace, then how come India is carrying out attacks on LoC?Recommend

  • Sane

    @Syed Hasan, I found nothing anti-Pakistan in this blog; it’s pro-peace. So Indian or Pakistani narrative that you’re talking about doesn’t come into picture in this case. The message of this blog is positive; let’s appreciate it. Recommend

  • Fiaz Ansari

    Shame on You express tribune today is Pakistan Independence Day not endian shame on you. should be post on Quid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah shame on your acts.Recommend

  • Sane

    @Queen, That’s what the author is telling us that nobody’s listening Gandhi’s message of peace. Both sides need to remember his sacrifice and make peace with each other. Recommend

  • Adnan

    You guys should have issued an article about Jinnah on this 14th August. I don’t know what’s wrong with you guys. Sometimes it looks like you guys are on payroll of India.Recommend

  • Indian

    @Syed Hasan, The real villains of partition were Nehru and Jinnah, not Patel. It was Patel who deserved to be India’s first PM but he sacrificed his position at the behest of Gandhi in favour of Nehru. People have misunderstood Patel. In India we credit him for unifying 565 princely states. He was a good man, although a little bit tough in his appearance. People feared him but also respected him a lot. Do read more on Patel.Recommend

  • mahmood

    How shamfull forget the sacrifices of hundreds if thousands on independence day but still kisses indean father of nation.Recommend

  • Nm

    @ Queen

    Just like Pakistanis learn about M.A.Jinnahbhai and don’t follow his principles,the same way many Indians learn about M.K.Gandhi,but don’t follow his principles.Recommend

  • LoL!!!

    Some comments mentioned above makes me to laugh . Like

    1>“If the Hindus don’t meet our demands this time, we’re going to make war on them. We ruled the Hindus once. At least we don’t intend to be ruled by them now.”–Now Who rules you ? American drones or Chinese assistance or US dollar. USA kills your soldiers in day light and you ask for excuses from them and they ignore it. Iraq,Afghanistan,Egypt,Syria,Libya and many more are war zones . Iran can’t stand up under Pressure from west and seeks our assistance . Saudi and their kins are under West’s claw.Islamic countries which used to conquer countries after countries , now distributes national assets to others like PDS ,take your example of your naval port and american bases in middle east .

    2>“China, Arab hamara, Hindustan hamara; Muslim hain hum, watan hai sara jahan hamara.”–China butchers muslims in its provinces and does force-feeding during their fasts.Arabs don’t allow to settle them and behave like any other migrant laborer . Some pakis seek citizenship of other country in fear of prosecution and some identify them Indians abroad.Countries like France snatches your veil . Some Muslims in Pakistan are at mercy of taliban.

    Some one has rightly said “Path of glory leads , but to graves” . If at all that was your time ,it’s ours .The sooner you accept , better for you.Recommend

  • Usman

    gandhi was the man following Qaid’s dream. our tragedy is that we have forgotton how hero but india is still shouting his names loudly even knowing that he didnt do anything.Recommend

  • Sandip

    @Milind: “India would have been better with a pragmatic Jinnah at his helm rather than Gandhi”.
    Look where your pragmatic Jinnah has landed Pakistan today. I would much rather follow Gandhiji’s insane ideology of unlimited ahimsa preached by the humbug, rather than the politics of hatred preached by the rest of the pragmatists combined. Since that insane ideology was for the millions while the pragmatic approach was only for the select few who got to benefit from it. It was nothing more than a power grab in the name of religion. And Pakistan largely, and to some extent India as well, is reaping the fruits of that ideology of hatred.Recommend

  • Usman Malik

    You forgot to mention a very important incident:
    Muslim league and Congress Jointly started Non-Cooperation Movement against the British Government in order to protect the institution of khilafat and to prevent dismemberment of Turkey. British Government was about to kneel down to this demand but at the eleventh hour, Gandhi called off the non-cooperation movement unilaterally without the consent of the muslim leaders.This malicious act of Gandhi led to the dissent between Muslims and congress and after that in round table of 1930, Iqbal represented the Idea of Independent Muslim state because muslims had been back-stabbed so many times by the hindus that there was no option left for them.
    P.S: This is very shameful of express tribune to publish an article on 14th august on Gandhi rather than Jinnah.Recommend

  • Ayesha

    Dear Vinit, Yes i know real India. I have many Indian friends. I also have family in India. i have been there too, Marrying Hindu women is not allowed in Islam nor is marrying Hindu men. What i have written is also true. India is not a monolith. It is made up of many types of people. Whether you acknowledge it or not Hindu militants are on the rise in India thanks to RSS. Please take off your rose colored glasses and see things for what they are. I am not saying that Pakistan is any better, it might be much worse but India is not a safe haven for Muslims. Look at India’s atrocities against Muslims. Lallu Parsad Yadhav propagates himself to be a champion of Dalits and Muslims. If Muslims were not oppressed why would this be so Are you trying to tell me that Babri Masjid did not happen that Mumbai riots didn’t happen and that Gujrat didn’t happen. If so, then you have a serious problem on your hand. Please open your eyes and see things for what they are.Recommend

  • Ehsan Ullah

    I second Usman Malik.
    Publishing this article on Gandhi by express tribune is just one example of a media campaign against the theory which makes the very basis of Pakistan’s existence. Shame for express tribune and shame for our all “bikaoo” media.

    P.S. Jisay India bohat pasand hai, usey India chalay jaana chahye. Recommend

  • Muhammad Ishfaq

    A nice article and an equally nice debate… one thing that we tend to ignore is that political developments in Undivided India led to a situation where Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru and Quaid e Azam M.A.Jinnah,all exceptionally gifted people; were piched against each other against perhaps their own will. But even then they didn’t lose their humanity. That’s the most important thing. Quaid e Azam cried when hindus were killed by fanatics in Rawalpindi. Gandhi jee went on hunger strike to protect muslims in India and Nehru jee did all he could do to save people on both sides of the border.
    This is what we should learn from these three great leaders.
    While their paths were different but their destination was the same… a peaceful and prosperous sub continent.Recommend

  • Ayesha

    @Indi cause that is what Indian Muslims tell me.I would like to believe otherwise. A Muslim Indian friend from Andhrapardesh got first position in IIT, it had been promised that he would be working on a project at Vikram Sarabhai Center, but as he was a Muslim, he was denied that position and a Hindu boy who had taken second position was taken in his place. This person migrated to the US and worked at NASA on an even more advanced version of this same project. Later on some venture capitalists found him and invested in his company. He himself says that i would never have gotten where i have had i been in India and that our family doesn’t want to return cause of what i faced there. There is something to these stories. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Recommend

  • vinit

    @Muhammad Ishfaq:
    best commentRecommend

  • khurram

    Yes Jinnah was the divider, and we are proud of that, but for your record corrections, the divider’s was a result of Congress/Nehru;s behavior towards Muslims @Freed: Recommend

  • Freed

    @Usman Malik:
    You also specialise in half-truths like the distorted history books of Pakistan. Here’s the reason why Gandhi suspended Congress participation in the non-cooperation movement. Given his unflinching commitment to non-violence it was an entirely reasonable decision.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChauriChauraincident
    Furthermore, it is a big thing that Gandhi participated in the Khilafat movement which was primarily a Muslim cause and had no interest to the Hindus. He did this because before the Khilafat movement Muslims had been active participants in the resistance to the British, unlike the Congress which had been struggling resolutely for Indian independence. Recommend

  • khurram

    dear sister you know noting about gandhi. indian gov spent 1,000,000$ to recover some letters which shows and confirm that gandhi was……… @Ayesha: Recommend

  • http://yasirimran.wordpress.com Yasir Imran

    Shameful article on Independence day of PakistanRecommend

  • Hindu Indian

    @Nj:
    Remember when you point a finger towards us , there are 3 fingers pointing towards you . The same is valid of my country men pointing fingers at you . Happy Independence DayRecommend

  • Noman Khan

    We don’t need GANDHI…WE NEED QUAID-E-AZAM MUHAMMAD ALI JINNAH….I am disappointed with tribune about publish of this instead of any thing related to PAKISTAN and QUAID-E-AZAM…..PAKISTAN is based on TWO NATION THEORY …. which clearly states that MUSLIM AND HINDUS are two seperate nations… I AM PROUD TO BE MUSLIM AND PAKISTANI….DONT NEED SUCH ADVICES FROM BAPU. RESPECT HIM BUT DONT WNAT HIM ON MY INDEPEDENCE DAY.Recommend

  • Critical

    Somewhere I read

    Gandhi was a religious person who tried to use religion to unite people,while Jinnah wasnt a religious person but used religion to divide people….

    I’ve always been a staunch critic of Gandhi because I feel that his soft approach hindered the Independence movement started by Indian National Congress..had we got independence before 2nd world war,we could have developed more than now just by selling goods to European countries…

    I’m also happy that in my country,there is a rising wave of Gandhi critics,though some of them are those who read unverified rumors from RSS and pro-Islamic sources…But still your patriotism doesnt depend on your view of Gandhi…

    But I feel that Pakistanis are so cagey about Jinnah…They project him as a perfect man even though like every men he too had his flaws and made hImalayan mistakes… Everyone talks of how this is not “Jinnah’s Pakistan” and blame on a dictator named Zia even though Zia Ul Haq realised Jinnah’s dream…
    Not sure if criticizing Jinnah is blasphemy in Pakistan….

    The biggest step in correcting our mistakes is to accept them…Recommend

  • Kashif

    I am sick to the stomach that you had chosen this day to publish article on Gandhi in lieu of Sir Syed Ahemd Khan, Liaqat Ali Khan, Quaid-e-Azam mohammad Ali Jinnah, Dr. Allama Iqbal and so many others to who were the backbone and main thrust behind a historical nation building efforts. I am shamed how our criteria is to compete with India with Indian substance. Show originality by exploring the roots to our younger generation.Recommend

  • Rehan

    @Freed:
    What about Nehru?Recommend

  • Rational Liberal

    In the words of the BlackJack, “This would be considered hate speech, since I don’t agree with you”, I’m paraphrasing but that’s what he said in the last blog post.

    I find your blog post offensive, even though I actually agree with some points, but I’ll still take offense because most of the Indian commenters always take offense when there’s an article critiquing India.

    Hope ET posts my comment.Recommend

  • Mayank

    See..I believe that both common Indian people and Pakistani people want peace..
    I understand that this game of shifting blames and accusitions goes on since time.. But the need is to understand it with thinking positively in the direction of truth..

    Regarding the recent Loc issues.. Who knows who started the firing first..! but understand it.. India as a democratic country never wishes to fight wars ..it just protects itself..everytime there was war over Kashmir.. India just protected itself.. In the war during Indira Gandhi government.. India even reached till Lahore.. But they never wanted to conquer anything..not even Pakistan’s land too..

    I understand Pakistan is a great country..but we need to understand that.. Ever since past.the role of Pakistan’s army has been discreet..at times..people are taken over by military troops.. so there is a need to realize..tht both countries want peace..but there is major ambiguity about Pakistan’s army leaderships’ thoughts and the common Pakistani men does not come to know about it.. and that’s why a hatred is generated against India.

    I understand both countries have external and internal problems as well and wish to progress.. but the need is to understand why is this happening..

    Both countries are blaming each other for starting the fire.. but who knows who did it..God knows it.. Allah knows it..

    But the need is to understand the minds of leaderships which always acts diplomaticRecommend

  • gp65

    @Queen: “We respect Gandhi and we expect the Indians to respect Qaid-e-Azam too”

    First of all happy independence day. Seondly, respect for any leader should not be contingent on respect for any other leader. Each leader should be evaluated on the basis of their words and actions. Having said that, whether I agree with Jinnah’s words or actions or not, I like most Indians I know are also quite glad Pakistan was formed. This has certainly been good for India as well.

    @Noor: “@ Milind
    Did you learn your history lessons in RSS school ?!”

    Like you, I too have deep respect for Gandhiji but that does not change the fact that key facts outlined by Milind are accurate. His interpretation differs from mine but not the facts. Gandhiji did support Khilafat. He did support Sitaramiah even though Bose was the popular choice. Same thing with regards to Nehru vs. Patel. We do not know what was in his heart when he did it. As I said based on everything else that one knows about him, I see these particular decisions as errors which any human can make but the overall contribution he made not just to India but humanity is what I salute. Milind can interpret it differently but it is unfair to make personal accusations without being able to dispute a single fact that he has stated.Recommend

  • Rational

    @Saad: I am a pakistani, and if quaid was so dear to us we wudnt be so confused as he clearly wanted to a secular state with all minorities being treated equally, that did not happen and will not happen because we are ‘islaimic republic of pakistan’ and the religious numpties who opposed the creation of pakistan, have now held hostage the ideology of pakistan.Recommend

  • http://www.idigg.net Osama Zia

    I’m speechless. All I want to say. Express tribune has never been through the history of Pakistan that’s why he’s confused who was the leader of Pakistan. Gandhi or Quaid?Recommend

  • C. Nandkishore

    Pioneers are remembered and held in great esteem even if they have failings. E. g. Socrates (method of enquiry), Buddha (starting a religion of peace), Columbus (discovering America), Alexander Fleming (for penicillin), Ford (assembly line production) etc. Generations follow their method with more and more success. These are people who have the maximum influence on humanity. These are still human and commit many mistakes. Gandhi was one such pioneer. He invented independence through non violence. Just count the number of countries that gained independence through non violence before and after Gandhi. It is our smallness if we compare these pioneers with other people during their times. Recommend

  • Alann

    @Nj
    “It amazes me,that the RSS still exists-it was an RSS man who assassinated M.K.Gandhi for being too pro-muslim.”

    I would like to point out, partition was indeed a big mistake – and it all happened just because Nehru and Jinnah both wanted to be first PM of Independent India and Jinnah could not win over Nehru. It was all petty politics which led to the demand of new state for Muslims. When Jinnah was on his death bed, he himself said “Pakistan was the biggest mistake of my life”.Recommend

  • sana

    @Freed: The divider for a better future.. otherwise we would still be lickin Indian boots today!Recommend

  • PRO PAK

    @Freed:
    Kid go first read the History then type it..If Sir Quaid e Azam was divider then how he got Pakistan..Recommend

  • PRO PAK

    And btw ET where is article about Sir Quaid e Azam??? Such a ShameRecommend

  • http://www.pltacademy.com Travel_Tart

    Article is not balanced. It should also include examples of the syllabus in RSS schools and should also mention Shudhi movement.
    .
    Anyways, what is done is done. Let’s become good neighbours atleast!Recommend

  • Insaan

    @Ayesha: History is witness to all that Muslim oppression in Kashmir, Gujrat, Mahrashtar etc

    Paki Muslim killed 3 million people in East Pakistan. Pakistan is responsible for deaths of millions of Afghans by playing Taliban and interfering in Afghanistan.

    How many Pakistanis have been killed by Pakistanis in the last 10 years?

    In most riots Pakistani agents played a big role.

    Ten Pakistani terrorists PRETENDING TO BE HINDUS attacked 3-4 targets in Bombay on 26/11 and killed 40 Indian Muslims and 124 non-Muslims from 12 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.
    One aim of the attack was to create problems between Muslims and non-Muslims.

    Pakis have been working hard in creating riots too.

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  • Ibn Arastoo

    this article is NOT very respectful. It is NOT very Gandhian at all. If you want to be like Gandhi be respectful, be generous, be kind – but the people who killed Gandhi will not understand who Gandhi really was.

    This is amazing to read in a Pakistani newspaper on August 14! Wow this paper is disrespectful and treacherous. What if a Pakistan wrote an ode to Jinnah on August 15 praising Jinnah as a “Jesus” and “father” ? No! that is the difference between us, we don’t make Gods out of the most pious and good people. That is why we separated and some of you Indians do not understand that unfortunately. For the sake of peace do not try to provoke your neighbors like this. Yes Pakistanis are taught to defend their country. We are not violent but we have been taught to defend ourselves because of the tactics of Indians like this one.Recommend

  • Raj Kafir

    Mr Mohammed Ali Jinnah is the sole saviour of Hinduism in the last millennium. Had he not coined a TWO NATION THEORY, post British India would have been like present Pakistan; and Hinduism would have been extinct. Thank you Jinnah Saab, you have been instrumental in my exposure to higher education in India.
    Regards, Raj KafirRecommend

  • Hemant

    @Nj: Please do some research before saying this. Godse was a member of Congress party and was never a member of RSSRecommend

  • U

    The title of this post is so misleading. I came here, thinking it was going to be a post about Gandhi’s ideas regarding unity and peace. However, this post has such anti-Muslim undertones. Actually, the bulk of it just blames Muslims for not “following” Gandhi’s ideals. I would have more respect for the author, and might even take this post a bit more seriously, if it was written in a more balanced manner. Recommend

  • Milind

    @Sandip – “Look where your pragmatic Jinnah has landed Pakistan today”

    In fact both ideologies have failed to a certain extent. We practised Gandhian BS for a while and were in for a rude awakening in 1962, after which we got pragmatic (we had to!!!)…

    Leave aside Jinnah’s demand for a separate Muslim nation for a while and look at the facts objectively…
    Didn’t Gandhi eliminate potential leaders ruthlessly? Bose took it in his stride and bowed out, Jinnah didn’t (you can’t expect everybody to exhibit the same response). Jinnah was a successful lawyer and proudly claimed that he travelled in a railway first class compartment – he paid his own ticket as he could offered one. On the other hand Gandhi travellled in 3rd class with all his coterie and the expense (of course borne by Railways) taken to ready and accomodate the crowd used to be far higher…Recommend

  • MJ

    @U,
    It’s time we faced the reality. The truth is Gandhi was let down by both Hindus and Muslims as this article suggests. The whole world knows that he was assassinated by a Hindu extremist. But, at the same time Muslims also did not listen to him which is a fact. Now, we should accept our mistakes and make sure that his sacrifice does not go waste. We should make peace with each other. Shouldn’t we?Recommend

  • Indian

    @ Hemant
    Godse was an RSS Man.

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  • Not well rounded

    @ U

    Agree. I had similar expectations,but am let down with the unwholesome approach of this article.
    Being Indian,I would’ve like to read an article on Mr.Jinnah on Pakistani Independence Day…a synopsis of his vision and life.
    And also about his love for Rutie Petit and Dina Wadia and his sister,his life in England and his childhood …and how he cried at Rutie’s grave before leaving for Pakistan…the human being behind the image of the leader.Recommend

  • Z.

    @ Saad

    did/do you go to school? if so, then pls provide me with details so i can sue them for not serving their primary purpose… i.e. provide education. Recommend

  • Maqbool

    The article is about Gandhi’s forgotten sacrifices but most of the comments seem to describe the comparison between Mr. Gandhi and Mr. Jinnah or something like Gandhi VS Jinnah.

    They both are our leaders led the campaign for independence of this region. We must respect both of them and try following there teaching and honoring their sacrifices. Even in glorifying them we forget their teaching by blaming each other unnecessarily.

    However they were humans and humans are fallible to different degrees and the both were no excuse.

    If we really want peace then we must learn to tolerate each other. Happy Independence Day to all the people in both countries. “Pakistan Zindabad” “long live India”.Recommend

  • TCC

    @Maqbool, Rightly said. I also wonder why people are drawing comparisons between Gandhi and Jinnah when the author hasn’t done so. In fact he has not even mentioned Jinnah sahab in his article. Let’s ponder over Gandhi’s forgotten sacrifices and make sure that they don’t go in vain.Recommend

  • TCC

    Happy Independence Day to both India and Pakistan!Recommend

  • abid

    Sham on You we should promote Jinnah and Pakistani views instead of Gandhi and Indian materialRecommend

  • nas

    Read something other than Pakistan studies text books.in this day and age some much information is out there.do challenge what you are taught.most of it is propaganda.Recommend

  • Nj

    @ Maqbool
    @TCC
    @nas

    Agree completely.

    @Author
    Hope your friend fighting cancer is better/more comfortable. I read about her in a previous article of yours.Recommend

  • Vishal Kaul

    This article only a pinch of salt on the misery of millions of Hindu Sikh who force to leave there soil on the name of Islam. Talking about peace and communal harmony is easy but applied on them so difficult. Gandhi partiality with Punjabi Hindu Sikhs of Pakistan side Punjab never forgetting. Peace keeping only for saving Muslims in Bengal and other part of India Gandhi first aim he have not any sympathetic feelings Hindu Sikh of Pakistan side.Recommend

  • well wisher

    @Ayesha:
    Dear Ayesha, You talk about muslim opperession in India & give same old examples of babri masjid & gujrat riot (there is really nothing to talk about ) which happened decades ago, such atrosities against muslims occur in Pakistan on daily basis, created by fellow muslims. If Pakistan was made for welfare of muslims then it would have been most developed nation in world, but In reality it is considered failed nation & most dangerous country in world to live. If muslims in Pakistan cannot worship in mosque without the fear of blownup, what religious freedom they achieved by creating Pakistan. At least indian muslims can worship in mosque without fear of being blownup. So my point is if muslims are not living harmoniously with fellow muslim (read Pakistan) how can u expect they will live harmoniously with hindus & other communities in world.Recommend

  • Freed

    @sana:
    In that case we would have been licking our boots, as we would all have been Indian:) I know that this is a subcontinental delicacy, but I don’t recommend licking anyone’s boots as a matter of principle.Recommend

  • Freed

    @PRO PAK:
    Unfortunately that is the problem, it seems you read all your prescribed school “history” books seriously never realising that they are simply Pakistani state propaganda, half-truths and sometimes outright falsehood. In this age or informations there are many easily accessible sources of real objective history of the subcontinent (which for your information does not “begin” with the Pakistan movement!). Jinnah himself would weep at what we have made of his country with these kind of attitudes, he may have chosen the wrong path but he was still a great man.Recommend

  • heera

    @Ayesha:A Muslim Indian friend from Andhrapardesh got first position in IIT, it had been promised that he would be working on a project at Vikram Sarabhai Center, but as he was a Muslim, he was denied that position and a Hindu boy who had taken second position was taken in his place.
    I can produce you list of toppers in IIT over yrs,and I bet you none of muslim candidate ever grabbed rank1 in IIT.Dont crate story of your own..Fanaticism has a limit…Hindus either dont like to marry muslims..There r cases of Honor killing..Sometime muslim boys r gunned down for marrying a Hindu girl and vice versa..Like your holy scripture forbids muslim to marry non-muslim,Hindus consider contamination of race if muslim marry a Hindu..Sahrukh had having no easy walk marrying gauri..He pleaded and requested before her parents many time ..Since gauri remained firm so her parents agreed..but the fact is still gauri has limited interaction with her parents and relatives..this all i m telling coz one of my relative worked as a bob for SRK..he actually ran away from home coz he had some exchange of words to his parents since he was not earning at all..As soon as shahrukh came to know his story,he let him get good job in a firm through his influence..Recommend

  • Fawad

    Quaid-e-azam is our beloved leader.
    Regard’s,
    Fawad.Recommend

  • Insaan

    @Queen: “If Gandhi preached a message of peace, then how come India is carrying out attacks on LoC?”

    Pakistani government has not yet acknowledged the truth about Kargil that it was not tribals who died in Kargil. Reality is thousands of Paki army soldiers died in Kargil.
    Paki government has lied about 26/11and all the wars to Pakistani people.

    Did Pakistan kill three million people in East Pakistan because of Jinnah? Are Pakistani Muslims killing each other in mosques, funerals and markets because of Jinnah.

    Jinnah called for “direct action day” that led to Muslim riots that killed 300 people and made 100,000 homeless on the very first day. It all ended with deaths of millions of people.

    Jinnah’s own daughter chose to stay in India.

    Pakis are now doing “direct action day” on Shias every now and then.Recommend

  • Insaan

    @sana: The divider for a better future.. otherwise we would still be lickin Indian boots today!

    Now you are licking American and Chinese boots. Recommend

  • http://India vasan

    No comparison between Jinnah and Gandhiji. Gandhiji got us freedom by his ahimsa and noncooperation movement. That freedom would have gone to dogs had not Jinnah got his Pakistan and hence saved millions of hindus, sikhs, christians and other minorities of India (including the muslims who have stayed back) from the violence of afpak region, official religious bigotry preached thru madressas by Paki govt etc etc. The list is endless. We thank both for their contribution to India. Their contribution to pakistanis is for them to judge and decide.Recommend

  • Milind

    @MJ – “The whole world knows that he was assassinated by a Hindu extremist”

    Please don’t rely on Congress doctored history to make blanket statements. If you read objective history you will find that both Jinnah and Godse were rational folks, driven to the political Islam and Hinduism due to Gandhi’s political maneuvers… Recommend

  • Milind

    @Ayesha – “A Muslim Indian friend from Andhrapardesh got first position in IIT, it had been promised that he would be working on a project at Vikram Sarabhai Center, but as he was a Muslim, he was denied that position and a Hindu boy who had taken second position was taken in his place.”

    Well thank your (and his) stars that he got to study in IIT and got near the Vikram Sarabhai Center. How many Hindus in Pakistan can dream of higher education or taking a shot at top institutions in Pakistan?
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  • Sane

    @Sane:

    First do not use Id of others.

    Second what peace was delivered by Gandhi Recommend

  • Insaan

    @Ayesha: “A Muslim Indian friend from Andhrapardesh got first position in IIT, it had been promised that he would be working on a project at Vikram Sarabhai Center, but as he was a Muslim, he was denied that position and a Hindu boy who had taken second position was taken in his place.”

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  • unbelievable

    Gutsy blog – saying anything positive about Gandhi in Pakistan won’t be popular – saying that Pakistani’s should have appreciated Gandhi won’t be appreciated. The number one lesson that Gandhi preached which wasn’t taken to heart by either India or Pakistan was that you can achieve victory without violence. It’s unfortunate that Gandhi is probably appreciated more by the rest of the World than either India or Pakistan.Recommend

  • Darbari BALLB G

    Baluch, Mohajir, Sindhi, Pakhtun and Poonjabi friends need to read and learn about Jinah

    They also need to view this to find whether if second nation really was created or just a British Muslim Army got a landRecommend

  • Insaan

    @Ayesha: “A Muslim Indian friend from Andhrapardesh got first position in IIT, it had been promised that he would be working on a project at Vikram Sarabhai Center, but as he was a Muslim, he was denied that position and a Hindu boy who had taken second position was taken in his place”

    In real life a 5th position or 50th position may do much better then 1st position holder.
    Bill gates, Microsoft CEO is a college drop out. He did not finish his degree.

    Many Desi successful business owners in US don’t have any college education. Many PhDs and Engineers work as cashiers in stores.
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  • BlackJack

    @Ayesha: “A Muslim Indian friend from Andhrapardesh got first position in IIT, it had been promised that he would be working on a project at Vikram Sarabhai Center, but as he was a Muslim, he was denied that position and a Hindu boy who had taken second position was taken in his place”
    First of all, there are many IITs, so logically many toppers. Second, I personally know that VSSC even takes students for projects from institutions other than the IITs, so it seems highly unlikely that two toppers from IIT would be vying (unsuccessfully) for one project over there. Third, I think it is shameful that this guy who achieved world-class subsidized education is complaining about communal bias over some project, especially when there are examples like Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam who have worked in the ISRO at top positions. Fourth, I think the entire story is concocted (or grossly misrepresented), because a true story would have certainly become a great anecdote of success against the odds, and you aren’t even sharing his name or that of this company that he started.Recommend

  • http://India vasan

    It is reasonable to compare Jinnah and Godse. One killed Mother India and the other killed the Father of India.Recommend

  • Gratgy

    @Ayesha
    You should write a book, you are good at fictionRecommend

  • vinit

    @Ayesha: Ok Ayesha 2 thing 1 forgot to mention i am Bihari(State from where Lalu Prasad Yadav hails,) and I studied in RSS school,yes they were always teaching about hindu history during assembly but they never taught us to hate any one.Still i agree there are certain people who will post hate comment and preach hatred but number is very few.Its just that they dont have any other work so they seem more vocal.But any ordinary citizen of Indian or of any country including Pakistan are practical and compassionate.You will fine hatred if you search hate.Politician, maulivis and fake gurus are the one who initiate violence because they get benefited by it.Its dumb people like us who are being fool for centuries.The problem is created by us and we can only be solution.Recommend

  • Tia

    I don’t even get why this has to be discussed over and over again. I’m all praise for Mr. Gandhi, I really am, the same way I’m all praise for the Quaid who, by the way, was one of those leaders who joined the Muslim League very, very late in their wish to keep the two entities united. But let’s face it guys, the dislike was way to strong and the gap way too wide to be bridged. Just because our leaders saw things in a different light didn’t mean that the rest of the masses did too. This blog started out with the Hindus and the Muslims not paying heed to Mr. Gandhi’s sacrifices but has been spewing vitriol against the Muslims throughout. I’ve seen Indian history text books and read through the Pakistani history text books and I strongly believe that they should be reviewed as none of them represents what comes even close to the actual events. Other than that, guys, let’s just please move on. It’s been 67 years for crying out loud. Recommend

  • Gaurav

    @Ayesha

    What do you say for Dr APJ Abdul Kalam, father of Indian Nuclear Bomb, was he not being a muslim, but an ex president and holding top positions in DRDO and ISRO, Tessy Thomas a christian and associated with Agni missile programme and other examples. Securing first position is not eligibility to enter an institute, there are other things to consider also. Any one who thinks about India first should be an eligible candidate. Many of muslims are concerned for Arabs/Iran rather than thinking about India or taking pride in Indian heritage.

    First check the videos of Zakir Naik and Al Umma in Kerala interested in converting Hindus to Muslims.Recommend

  • http://na deep

    to restrict gandhiji to India’s freedom movement is to do grave injustice to his monumental influences on every aspect of our lives.

    internationallly the soft power india wields is very much gandhiji’s contribution.

    the importance of personal example was strongly underlined by him,

    and he put his considerable force behind social reforms including the one on child marriage. there is so much more – I believe einstein said that future generations will scarcely believe that such a man walked the earth –

    and please stop equating him with jinnah.Recommend

  • Shiv

    @Saad: oddly, most Indians would agree with you.Jinnah’s two nation theory is valid for all times, and all muslims in India should have been made to migrate to Pakistan. There would have been no problems at all if that was ensured.Recommend

  • vaibhav

    @Usman Malik:
    Dear Pakistani brother. Your Quid-e-azam alienated the Indian muslim to an extent which cannot be repaired. Islam is part of Indian identity. Did you guys ever think how would a muslim from tamil nadu(8%) or kerala(11%) for instance, will ever make it to islamic safe havens of pakistan? What implications would a partition have on them? India is secular(largely to say, well chuck the RSS). Bollywood is a good example. Other examples include a muslim president, chief justice, chief minister. At a more mundane level, an example includes “bismillah” and “jai bhole baba” both stickers coexsting ‘peacefully’ on a mumbai autorickshaw’s windscreen. Ever seen that in pakistan? Our secular identity is our pride. Jai Hind. Recommend

  • ibnarastoo

    My sincere apologies for labeling this newspaper as treacherous. I am truly sorry particularly after the recent firings/attack at the ET office buildings. I am really full of regret and sorrow over this. Please forgive me and all of us foolish Pakistanis for calling anyone with an abusive name (like trai_or etc.) Let us have peace and non violence just like Gandhi wanted but please deliver this message nicely to us and NOT on August 14 for God’s sakes, we want to westernized and Europeanised and we don’t want to be like India (like Gandhi to some extent but definitely NOT like India for heaven’s sakes!)Recommend

  • Sandip

    @Ehsan Ullah: “I second Usman Malik.
    Publishing this article on Gandhi by express tribune is just one example of a media campaign against the theory which makes the very basis of Pakistan’s existence. Shame for express tribune and shame for our all “bikaoo” media.”

    That theory, that as per you is the bedrock of Pakistan’s existence, was buried in 1971 when West Pakistan was thrown out of the union by the Bangladeshis. And I choose my words carefully. It was not a secession as the Bangladeshis were in majority. What lives now is the ghost of that theory, in its many contorted forms.
    If you don’t have the courage to recognize and speak the truth, the least you can do is to respect others who have that courage and are willing to use it.Recommend