Dear Jinnah, I am sorry to disappoint …

Published: April 27, 2013

Sir, this country is going down-hill. Sir, our Pakistan is going down-hill! DESIGN: ERUM SHAIKH

Honourable Mr Mohammad Ali Jinnah,

I’m convinced you’re well and in a much better place. I’m a citizen of Pakistan and after having enough, I thought I should speak to you – inform you about the Pakistan you fought for on our behalf.

Sir, we have your picture on Pakistani currency which we use for bribing. We also have your picture in our government offices, under which our managers (I’m sorry Sir, but I don’t find any leader in this country as of now) sit and rape (literally) the constitution and tell lies.

Sir, the Pakistan you thought of, we are nowhere near it.

I’m sorry but I have to tell you. I don’t intend to give you pain, but in my opinion you need to know.

Sir, in your address to the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan on August 11, 1947, you said and I quote

“You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed — that has nothing to do with the business of the State… We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens and equal citizens of one State… I think we should keep that in front of us as our ideal and you will find that in due course Hindus would cease to be Hindus and Muslims would cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense, because that is the personal faith of each individual, but in the political sense as citizens of the State.”

These were your words on August 11, 1947.

I’m afraid but people are not free to go their temples Sir. Last Eidul-Fitr, Ahmadis were stopped from going to their prayer houses in Rawalpindi.

We as a nation have lost patience and tolerance. The fundamental principle that we are equal citizens of one state still seems like a dream. Sir, let me also tell you that Shia’s are being targeted in this country and we have lost young men, children, women in blasts which have shaken the country. The recent Quetta and Abbas Town incident is yet another tragic mark in Pakistan’s history. Shia’s are being targeted and killed during processions whilst they remember Hazrat Imam Hussain’s shahadat.

Sir, in your speech at Islamia College for Women on March 25, 1940, you said and I quote,

“I have always maintained that no nation can ever be worthy of its existence that cannot take its women along with the men. No struggle can ever succeed without women participating side by side with men. There are two powers in the world; one is the sword and the other is the pen. There is a great competition and rivalry between the two. There is a third power stronger than both, that of the women.” 

Sir, I’m afraid that’s not how things are being carried out. Young girls have been buried alive in Balochistan. Malala Yousafzai was shot at point-blank range, just because she raised her voice for women’s education in Pakistan. Women are being raped in this country every other day. Women are being killed in Pakistan, just because the ‘Panchayat’ thinks she’s having an affair. Sir, women are also being killed because they commit the greatest of the sins, by choosing a life partner for themselves.

My Dear Quaid (and when I say Dear Quaid, I mean Mr Mohammad Ali Jinnah and not any other ‘leader’ referred to in the same way – another confusion which we are going through!) women in Karachi and also in other parts of the country are now being kidnapped as well.

Sir, the worst of the story is we let America take one of our daughters from Pakistan. She’s behind the bars and she’s lost her senses. I’m extremely sorry Sir, I can’t look into your eyes but this is what Pakistan is, as of now after 66 years.

Sir, in your address to the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, Karachi, August 11, 1947 you said and I quote, 

”You will no doubt agree with me that the first duty of a government is to maintain law and order, so that the life, property, and religious beliefs of its subjects are fully protected by the State…..…if we want to make this great State of Pakistan happy and prosperous we should wholly and solely concentrate on the well-being of the people, and especially of the masses and the poor.” 

Sir, the present government has valued your statement. Yes, they have looked after the masses especially the poor. A support program gives Rs1,000 to the poor every month, generous indeed.

The present government is giving fish to people but what I understand from your statement above is to teach people how to fetch a fish. Unfortunately Sir, the poor in this country is getting poorer every passing day.

Just these few months back Sir, a man lit himself on fire in front of the Parliament because he couldn’t afford the price-hike. Sir, there have been reports that parents have “sold” their children because they couldn’t afford them.

In 2011, about 1,600 people decided that suicide was the only escape from poverty. The previous year 2,399 people killed themselves and poverty was a significant factor, but a precise breakup was not available, the commission said.

In another incident, Bashiran Bibi jumped in front of a speeding train with her two sons and daughter, all under the age of 3. 58% of Pakistan’s population suffers from ‘food insecurity’. Sir, I know these are depressing facts, but I thought I should share with you.

Sir, in your interview to the Daily Worker in London in 1944, you said and I quote,

“Muslims in Pakistan want to be able to establish their own real democratic popular government. This government will have the sanction…of the people of Pakistan and will function with the will and sanction of the entire body of people in Pakistan, irrespective of caste or colour.” 

Sir, we want to have a real democratic government in this country. Over these years, this country has been in the hands of a few families. After you left for a better world, democracy was nowhere to be seen and few years later the army took over the country.

Then came Mr Bhutto; he had a great following but was hanged by the army again. Then came the Sharif’s – they were thrown out. Then came Benazir Bhutto; she was sent home as well. To our surprise, again came the Sharif’s and were thrown out once again, this time by the army which stayed for some good time and then came Bhutto’s again, and still are in power.

Sir, I’m just telling you, this country is being tossed between two families. As for the government to function with the will and sanction of people of Pakistan, let me also inform you Sir, the government has put sanctions on things in this country.

The telephone system is shut down every now and then. Two people together are not allowed to ride a bike because that’s what target killers are doing. We have banned a technology platform, known as YouTube, just because it has blasphemous material on it not realising it’s a source of religious education for the people here. We have a social networking platform known as Twitter and for the last few weeks, I’ve seen people talking about what security measures to be taken while commuting in cities.

Sir, this country is going down-hill. Sir, our Pakistan is going down-hill!

Sir, while addressing a public meeting in Dhaka on March 21, 1948 you said and I quote,

“The government can only have for its aim one objective – how to serve the people, how to devise ways and means for their welfare, for their betterment. What other object can the government have?”

Sir, I say this with utmost grief that this is not how things have been in Pakistan. We are not being served.

There’s a larger picture to things Sir.

The hospitals in Pakistan, I must inform you are in worst situations. We as citizens are not getting the basic necessities of life.

Sir, every Pakistani is suffering. People are dying. This is not the Pakistan you wanted for us.

Sir, people are talking of leaving Pakistan and settling abroad. The youth is leaving too. People take pride when they apply for American or European nationalities Sir. This is not how it is supposed to be. I know you can’t do anything about the current situation for what you’ve done for us already … we’ve not been able to value that. You were the source of freedom. You gave us a country. You gave us Pakistan but Sir, today, with extreme sadness and embarrassment; I inform you that we have failed.

We have failed as a nation.

We have failed at the government level.

We have failed miserably at justice.

We have failed.

I know it’s far more honourable to fail than to cheat, but one must strive towards success and that’s what we are not doing.

Sir, things are extremely bad in Pakistan but there are some little good things as well. We have Edhi Sahab, who has given his life to the country. We have Sharmeen Obaid Chinoy, who recently took Pakistan on to the global level and won an Oscar.

We have Malala, who has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. We had Arfa Kareem, who was a tech wizard. We had Abdus Salam, who is the only Nobel Physics Prize winner, but one fine morning when he woke up, he was declared a kaafir. Sir, we have the best sportsmen in the world.

We have amazing talent and these people will keep on doing things in their personal capacities, but it takes the leadership to make a country prosper by their justice and transparent processes. The government needs to govern and not earn!

Dear Sir, I hope this country will be what you thought of it. I and other people are putting in their best in our own capacity, but I have a feeling this will not have a massive effect on the betterment of Pakistan. Sir, I sincerely pray that in the upcoming elections, whosoever makes the government, this time does things for Pakistan only and not for their own benefits. I’ll speak to you next year, same time and give you another brief and the progress of this nation.

May you get the best of the world you are in Sir.

Regards,
Taimur Rehman
Pakistani.

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Rehman Taimur

Taimur Rehman

He heads an IT company with the name of Webmekanics, and has a focus on social issues. He is also actively involved in training & Urdu story-telling. He tweets @taimurbhai

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  • http://www.baahirezamanowordpress.com Ali Rahman

    Taimur… my eyes welled-up while reading this…. These words can only come from a heart that beats for Pakistan. My wishes and prayers are with you with a commitment to do my best to make it Jinnah’s Pakistan. We need to start from our homes, our street, our neighborhood, our city and take this message across Pakistan. We demand to be treated like respectable citizens of Pakistan as promised. Irrespective of our race, color, class, creed… We have to and must take charge and we need to put our foot down and stop accepting subordination to basic human rights violations. I feel every word in your letter and more importantly, I feel responsible for letting this nation drift into the hands of those who are far from Jinnah’s vision. Bless you Taimur. Recommend

  • Faisal

    Enough is enough!! can someone give me at least one authentic evidence about this 11 August 1947 speech or it’s just a fabricated speech?? even All India Radio has no record in it’s archives about this speech Please stop spreading these blatant lies in using Quaid e Azam name !!!Recommend

  • Baba Ji

    @ Author : yours “We have failed as a nation.

    We have failed at the government level.

    We have failed miserably at justice.

    We have failed.”

    Relax !!!! it is not that bad … no country in this world is Utopia … there is always ups and downs in nations … we will average out somewhere better than present situation … don’t worry … just keep doing your job honestly …Recommend

  • aamir

    mr writer hope u will mention killing of innocent diobndie children killed in madrissas while reciting holy QURAN by terrarests in karach if ur biased eye can watch something like thisRecommend

  • MUSSWAR

    Mashallah reading the above brought a tear to my eye and i’m at work. Feel the pain just just of your but all the Pakistani’s. We have suffered alot and need to make a Naaya Pakistan. All those lives sacrifices for us in order to make this country and we are destroying it. We need to take action and speak up. No more to terror, no more to poverty, unemployment, corruption. We need to stick together and elect a new goverment who cares for us and will not leave the country when the going gets tough. In my opinion the only party for the job is PTI. I do wish they come into power and help our country for being a failed state In shaa Allah. Recommend

  • Naila Kanwal

    I wish Quaid’s speech was a compulsory read for us during school like our anthem. so that we can constantly remind ourselves who we are and where we stand.Recommend

  • http://www.crazynovelist.com Wajeeha Iftikhar

    Dear writer,
    This has been one of the best articles I’ve read in years! Some months back, I remember writing something similar but instead of reporting of what was going on, I was apologizing to the country, the land of Pakistan, the land filled with the blood of Shuhdas who gave up their life just so that we could live in peace.
    Unfortunately, their blood is getting wasted, while we sit and complain, while doing our small part, yes, but we are still complaining – truthfully, unfortunately, I shall not be the first one to get out of the house if the country ever needed me for any kind of revolution. I’m one of the people who just sit and give speeches, and actually DO nothing. People like me give ourselves consolation that when we talk, too, we are “doing” something. Like talking has ever made a difference in the people. This is shameful for me, though many people would disagree.
    Lovely article, I was crying quite openly in front of my colleagues in office, and even shared your link with them. Hopefully, it will have an effect on all of us of something other than sitting in and debating.Recommend

  • Omar Qadir

    “State of Pakistan” said by Jinnah and not “Islamic Republic of Pakistan”. Zara Sochiyee. Recommend

  • choclat85

    Very good Article Taimur. Kudos to you and its good to see patriotic people like you trying for a better Pakistan.
    I also wan’t to point out a little mistake Dr Abdus Salam won a Noble Prize in Physics it’s not Noble Peace Prize.Recommend

  • Sarah

    Mehh. Writing whiny blogs won’t solve any of the problems you listed above.Recommend

  • JB

    ^Yeh daagh daagh Ujala, Yeh Shab Guzeeda Sahar
    Woh Intezar Tha Jiss ka, Yeh woh Sahar tou Nahi
    ~Faiz Ahmed Faiz, about Pakistan in 1957. Recommend

  • Weird

    Dr Abdus Salam did not win the Nobel Peace Prize – which is a politicized award anyway. He won one of the prestigious Nobels – the one for Physics, which is not given to any johnny-come-lately. In fact his work is highly celebrated – any Indian Physics textbook that discusses the forces of nature features it prominently. I have no idea why he didn’t just take up Indian citizenship – I am sure it was offered several times. At least Indian blog writers would know which award he actually won.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com Anoop

    “The fundamental principle that we are equal citizens of one state still seems like a dream…Sir, we want to have a real democratic government in this country. “

    Jinnah disagreed with the one-man-one-vote principle. The core of any Democracy. Pretty conflicting ideas, aren’t they. In speech he says he is all for equality, but wanted special privileges for Muslims, the same ones he never even talked about giving to the leftover Hindus after the creation of Pakistan. Seems his idea of equality only extended to Muslims. Speech is fine, but he called “Direct Action” against Hindus, the very same ones he claimed “can go to their temples” later on..

    Jinnah also said this:

    “Some are misled by propaganda.
    Islamic principles are as applicable
    to life as they were 1,300 years ago.
    The Constitution of Pakistan will be
    made on the basis of the sharia.

    So its clear he wanted an Islamic Pakistan. Aug 11 speech was one off. I can quote more if the Author wishes.

    Jinnah also severely protested when his own Daughter married a non-Muslim asking why did she had to marry a non-Muslim, couldn’t she have found a good Muslim boy among the Millions of Muslims. Jinnah didn’t have a problem marrying a Parsi and getting her converted, but when the shoe is on the other foot, it was intolerable. This is not the marks of a leader. Same thing happened to Nehru. His daughter married a non-Hindu, but that never mattered, did it!

    Jinnah’s daughter made India her home, NOT Pakistan, due to this.

    So, when you see all this its pretty funny. Jinnah made all those secular sounding speeches, yet wanted Sharia over Pakistan. The very opposite of secularism. Jinnah talked of equality, but disagrees with one-man-one-vote principle. Jinnah says everyone can be Pakistan regardless of Religion, but when it comes to his own life, the rules change and his own Daughter is forced to marry a non-Muslim, which she eventually runs away from to India.

    Stop invoking Jinnah, its pretty useless. Bacha Khan, Gandhi and Nehru are much more relevant for today’s world. Pakistan are better off taking on Secular individuals, with an unblemished record, than people who tend to confuse you, more than they bring clarity.Recommend

  • http://www.webmekanics.com Taimur Rehman

    @Wajeeha Iftikhar: Aoa Wajiha. Thank you very much for the kind words. I’m indebted and grateful. Jeeti Rahiye!

    As for the letter, whatever I’ve written is straight from the heart. I’m putting in my best for Pakistan. I left the UK to give my son a Great Pakistan and that day isn’t far, when I’ll look into Ibrahim’s (my son) eyes and tell him with extreme delight, that “Bacha, This is the Pakistan which honourable Jinnah thought for us, and today we’ve made it possible!”

    Once again, thank you for taking time out, reading and further sharing. God bless.

    Good day!Recommend

  • truthseeker

    Hmmm… This article has selective amnesia. Jinnah made many many speeches as politicians are wont to do. Many are utterly religious and focused on creating a Muslim state. A few sound secular that liberal Pakistanis desparately cling to. But his actions speak louder than any speech. And that was to create a new nation on the basis of islam. We are accurately following his vision for 65 years. Arguing for secularism on the basis of a few selected paragraphs from a few select speeches of the quaid and ignoring his life’s work is just grasping at the straws in desperation. It is arising insulting to the Quaid by misrepresenting his vision. Recommend

  • http://www,hotmail.com Mohammad A Bajwa

    Both Iqbal and Jinnah grew up in Anglo-Muslim culture.While conceiving of Pakistan they did not realize that they will have to build it in a feudal/tribal society.They also did not recognize that they Anglo tainted culture will not last long. They also did not recognize that there will be a migration of religious extremists from India who would claim Pakistan and try to dominate the people.Recommend

  • true fighter

    We are free to go to our temples….. no doubt about it. Stop this negative propaganda.Recommend

  • KDP

    Sir:
    Irony is that Shia and Ahmadia are free to practice their religion and safer in India than in the Country you demanded and got for the same reason.Recommend

  • Parvez

    Nothing wrong in your heart felt lament………….we truly are a thankless nation.Recommend

  • Fahad Raza

    A very Inspirational write upRecommend

  • http://politicalareeba.tumblr.com Areeba

    This was moving beyond words. Thank you for writing it. Recommend

  • Danish

    @Taimur Rehman :

    Its a great article and I can see that a lot of thought was put into it but correct me If I’m wrong, didn’t Abdus Salam receive a Nobel Prize in Physics (Stockholm, Sweden 1979) rather than the Nobel Peace Prize??Recommend

  • Riaz Khan

    Dear Taimur Rehman

    I’m sorry to disappoint…

    But I was the senior member in Congress in 1930s,but when the Congress were swayed by M.K.Gandhi…I took offence and went to England,thereby not spending a single day in Jail unlike other Congress members..

    After repeated pleas from Allama Iqbal,I decided to come back and realised that the members of the Congress party became even more stronger than before..

    So I joined the Muslim League,even though I wasnt a staunch muslim myself…I decided to play the muslim card..I proposed a biased 14 point plan which allowed the minority muslims to control every saying in parliament which even many muslim leaders criticized as being against the basic tenets of democracy…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FourteenPointsof_Jinnah

    So,I decided to play bluff by calling for a separate nation,but Nehru and Patel called it and allowed the formation of Pakistan…

    After the formation,I had total powers in the new country which couldnt have got in a united India…But I refused to abolish feudalism and allowed religious bigotry which ultimately is leading the country to become a failed state…

    I proposed Urdu to be the national language,even though it was only spoken by the Mohajir Muslims from UP,Bihar and this seed ultimately resulted in formation of Bangladesh….

    Even after 65 yrs,the common citizens are still debating that I was secular based on few selected speechs when my Direct Day action resulted in death of many muslims,Hindus and Sikhs all over the subcontinent….

    But all is not lost..You can lift the nation from the abyss and bring back to the country I imagined.

    Yours sincerely
    M.A.Jinnah

    P.S. Written from the point of an Indian Muslim whose grandparents refused to migrate in 1947Recommend

  • ayesha shafiq

    who will listen to us?. Pakistani people are not honest and how government will react?. We need honest real leader who runs as a president. I agree that we need a leader who honestly do for Pakistan. If normal pakistani are not honest then how a leader can be honest?. Look at white people who never be dishonest with their people. Why we are suffering?. We need electricity to run bussiness and factories. We all nation is not muslims. I will say we all are corrupt people. We are selfish and hunger for money. Recommend

  • BlackJack

    I think the irony is not lost on readers that the speech for which Jinnah is most often quoted today is the one that negates his life’s work.Recommend

  • Mehdi

    @Author

    Jinnah was a secular person. Urdu is a lingua Franca that originated in northern India between 14th and 15th century. it was a language of the royal court of India’s princely state irrespective of rulers religious persuasion. Before that it was Farsi. jinnah was short sighted in declaring Urdu as a national language of Pakistan with good intention of uniting all ethnicities of Pakistan (east and west), what went wrong, was that he mandated it and made other languages irrelevant. this resulted in creation of Bangladesh besides other discriminatory policies of Punjabi rulers. One good thing about British rule was that it kept communal difference in Indian to minimum. everybody was forced to coexist. I like rule of governance that allows for this provision. democracy is great when minority rights are protected and laws protecting this rights are implemented to the letter of the law. this is the main reason in USA people coexist, not because of defined meaning of democracy. any way a good read.Recommend

  • jimmy tha jaicama

    Few days ago i was listning to the zaid hamid and he made jinnah and iqbal both were wali.Recommend

  • Nasir Saleem

    Yes, indeed Mr. Taimur has crafted this article in a very accurate and truthful manner…. But it is also true that our nation is being played by few idiotic hypocrites for the last five decades but why we are insisting on this point???
    We as a so called “Nation” we have invited them to rule us…..We are the one who make ourselves fool every time!!! Then why to blame it…………. I post you a question…. Do we deserve it?? Do we have enough power and strength for a change???Recommend

  • http://brandsynario.com Brandsynario

    We all know that there are many problems that Pakistan is facing these days but it’s not that we can declare Pakistan as a failed Nation we have to work together and make it better and it’s the duty of every Pakistani to work for it rather than just criticizing i agree to it that this is not the Pakistan that M.A.Jinnah dreamed of but we can make that dream true.Recommend

  • Zoyi

    Well written – each and every word makes perfect sense. Kudos to the writer.Recommend

  • gujranwala789

    @Mehdi:

    Urdu was never a lingua franca in the territory of modern pakistan. The lingua franca, if any, must have been persian in the native lands of pakistan before the british enslaved this region and changed the language of education from persian to urdu in 1860 and destroyed our cultural heritage. All the scholarly work of the muslim intellectuals in punjab was in persian before this illegitimate move of british.Recommend

  • http://romaisas.blogspot.com Romaisa

    This brought tears to my eyes, you at least have the courage to write all this; I, on the other hand, can never write this. Our Jinnah surely deserved a better return on his investment. Recommend

  • Talha rizvi

    @Riaz Khan:
    You should post this rubbish in a so-called ‘secular’ newspaper of your country.While your at it Indian movies always depicit Muslims as terrorists,troublemakers,backward and blackmailing Government for their votes.So why not do something about it.
    P.S Written from the point of view of a Pakistani whose Father and Grandparents gladly emigrated to Pakistan from India.Recommend

  • Mehdi

    @Talha rizvi:

    My question to you, do you like the current prevailing situation in Pakistan especially for Shias and other minorities. Recommend

  • Mehdi

    @gujranwala789:

    Urdu is derived from Persian, Arabic and Sanskrit. Yes it is a Franca lingua. Please read up on Urdu language. Yes Farsi used to be one of the languages used before 1960. Can you please make a point.Recommend

  • Mehdi

    @gujranwala789:

    There is no concept of native Pakistan. West Pakistan used to comprise of Sindh,western part of Punjab, NWFP and Baluchistan during British Raj. east Pakistan was solely a east province of Bengal partitioned around 1905. Please read Tagore’s writing. So are you against Urdu and Bengali ? I personally love both these languages. Both these languages could have brought people together.

    Tagore – amar sonar bangla national anthem of Bangladesh, gitanjali – Nobel prize winning work.

    Mir Anees – writings about tragedy of Kerbala. Urdu literature at its zenith/peak.Recommend

  • [email protected]

    feeling bad …but there is always a day after dark night ,Recommend

  • Rationalist

    @ Adil Uddin

    Good to read a sensible and just comment with objectively analysing the situation.

    The only trouble with Pakistan, and the rest of the world for that matter, is that people in power (from any ethnicity or religious background) suppress those who are not in power (rich exploiting the poor). Recommend

  • Talha rizvi

    @Mehdi:
    Of course the current situation is really bad but that doesn’t mean that Indians get a free hand in trolling over an article over the founder of nation.This is not the first time they have spewed hatred in a heartfelt article over M.A Jinnah.Search E.T’s website and you will see over any article that is about patriotism the Indians are always there with there crass comments and always amongst them are ‘Muslims” like Riaz khan who want to prove their Indianness by wildly and exaggeratingly cursing Pakistan.Recommend

  • Mehdi

    @Talha rizvi:

    Not a single comment here I could interpret is bad mouthing Jinnah. You have to understand if the Indian readers are mad about Pakistan, please read the comments posted by Pakistanis, sir it is a two way street, even the Indian trolls argue logically than the regular Pakistani. it is a fact Muslims especially Shia Muslims are better of in India than Pakistan. Jinnah had his flaws, so people are pointing them out. I personally don’t like hollow patriotism. I would urge you to rationally think and introspect where your country is heading to. Pakistanis has a image problem globally. Father of the nation is judged by history how its people behave and react. If I were a bad person, society will also judge my parents too. This is the global norm.Recommend

  • Talha rizvi

    @aamir:
    What about those belonging to other sects or non-muslims aren’t they HUMANS?
    @Mehdi
    The Indians also argue ‘logically’ that every riot is started by Muslims and they deserve what comes to them.So should we accept that argument.By your logic every bad things that Indians do can be traced back to Gandhi as he is the father of your nation.So why is Jinnah blamed for evils that Pakistan is inflicted with?Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com Anoop

    @Talha rizvi:

    “By your logic every bad things that Indians do can be traced back to Gandhi as he is the father of your nation.”

    Like what? Gandhi gave us the path of non-violence, of ahimsa, reminded us of the great ideas which lurked beneath our society, fought untouchability, promoted Secularism, was all for equality, gave India its soul.

    There is no bad legacy from Gandhi. NONE.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com Anoop

    @Talha rizvi:

    “What about those belonging to other sects or non-muslims aren’t they HUMANS?”

    On one hand you write an article talking Jinnah, on the other you talk for the protection of minorities. Pretty contrasting stuff.. Why?

    Because Jinnah called for “Direct Action” day during Ramzan(note the Religious significance), which resulted in the butchering of over 5000 people in muslim-majority Bengal.

    Suharwardy, the CM of then Bengal, one of ML’s league prominent members, was a close associate of Jinnah and is held responsible for the massacre which ensued. A Modi before Modi was even born. What do you call people in India who associate themselves with Modi? Now, what do you call Jinnah?

    So which side are you on?

    Also, facts are facts. What I quoted above is just that. The Direct Action Day call by Jinnah and his “Muslim” league was real too..

    If you can contest on facts, fine by me, but until you do that, you have no right to implicitly accuse others of propagandising.

    If you had written an article about Bacha Khan, a true hero, a proponent of non-violence, there is no question of doubting the man. He was truly great. There is no communal action, no non-secular quote, no doubts. Everything you get from Jinnah.

    Although he didn’t believe in the theory that pretty much states that “2 sets of Human beings cannot possibly live together, because they belong to 2 Religions”, his vision is revolutionary and which is relevant in modern times. Interestingly, he merged his party with the Congress due to the similarity of ideas espoused by both.Recommend

  • Talha rizvi

    @Anoop:
    I really don’t want to turn this into an India vs.pakistan competition as the Indians are always fond of getting into fights without even verifying the facts.What I was saying was that the Indians should keep their Enlightened views about Jinnah to themselves.Asking Indians about Jinnah is like asking your worst enemy to testify in your behalf.I have observed that not only Indians do preach to the Pakistanis but also have the audacity to brazenly curse Pakistan in a Pakistani newspaper.You guys are really lucky that your views are printed here because frankly No other country including India would permit members of an enemy country to post comments on their country’s newspaper.
    Now about the Direct action day the MAJORITY of the victims on that day were muslims.Also please tell us Why would their be riots in a city with barely 24% Muslims but none in muslim majority areas of India?
    Those who live in Glass houses should not throw stones at others.Finally if you hate Pakistan why you and the other Indians are always posting on Pakistani newspapers.If you have any self-respect GET OUT.Recommend

  • Mehdi

    @Talha rizvi:

    ET allows liberal posting because it is a sister company of international media conglomerate called tribune. They have to allow freedom of expression and speech, it is their guideline. I believe in protecting your rights to criticize me.

    People criticize Pakistan because of its policies that impacts global security.

    @anoop

    It is also a fact Hindus killed many Muslims during pre and post partition. are you willing to accept that ? two nation theory didn’t emerge out of no where, they were biases towards Muslim from certain segment of congress and political establishment. also if India as a country exists as a contiguous republic/state is because of Muslim rulers, earlier it was a loosly small princely kingdom. how they achieved it is a matter of debate. Still today Muslim face discrimination by majority Hindus in a secular India. You can readily find that information. India has many social ills but the govt policies are being implemented to improve them. again I don’t believe in hollow patriotism. Modi is a CM of Gujrat because of the many ills that exist in India. He may have done great things for Gujrat, but he is not eligible to travel to western countries because of HR violation. This is a fact. Also I am not a pakistani. I also agree debate should be conducted on facts and logic not using emotional tirade.

    Jinnah was a good person albeit implemented some flawed policies when it came to Pakistan. even Gandhi had flaws as a person, overall a great human being. Recommend

  • Mehdi

    @Anoop:
    Nehru was also biased towards Muslim rule and cabinet formation.He didn’t express it explicitly. Sardar Patel was also not a good human being. many indian praise him too. please argue with a pakistani about the ills of the society. Today’s Pakistan in not what jinnah envisioned. It is a fact. He was a secular who used Islam for politics. India is still progressing toward Gandhi’s vision.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com Anoop

    @Mehdi:

    “Nehru was also biased towards Muslim rule and cabinet formation.”

    State your evidence and then claim this. In the interim Govt, where Congress had won overwhelming majority of seats, how can it give parity to a party which represented only one Religious community and had won only few seats? Would the coming Govt in Pakistan give undue parity to smaller players? Then, how can you expect Congress of doing it?

    Are you talking about the same Nehru, along with Gandhi went out of their way, risking their own lives to stop the killings all over India, not minding if the victim was a Hindu or Muslim?

    Are you talking of the same Nehru who made sure Muslim feel at home, giving them a Muslim Civil Law and made sure India would not be formed on the basis of one Religion?

    Are you talking of the same man in whose name millions of Muslims still vote for his grandsons and granddaughters, who in his name ask for votes?

    Muslims love Nehru. Nehru loved them back. Nehru loved Muslim is untrue, perhaps. He loved India and he definitely considered Muslims a part of India.

    “Today’s Pakistan in not what jinnah envisioned. “

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  • sherrry

    @Anoop:
    thanks, thanks a lot for clarifying this for our so called secular minded ppl / liberals ,

    you are absolutely right, pakistan was made in the name of islam n thats the only reason for its creationand future existence,
    you have mentioned absolutely correct / proven facts of Mr jinnah’s life but (due to your personal bias ) you couldn’t deduct truth out of those, anyways thats a separate argument but right now you have clarified things well for our pakistani liberals/hypocrites Recommend

  • sherrry

    @Riaz Khan:

    sir , just one question

    by the way which place u r from….?????Recommend

  • Mehdi

    @anoop

    He wasn’t biased towards Muslim per say but Muslim rule and cabinet formation pre 1947 India. Yes I am talking about Jawahulal Nehru, your first PM of republic of India. I would love to give evidence but I have to provide excerpts from research paper. This is a blog. Muslim civil law was a British one, which india inherited and yes does allow muslim civil law.There was a difference of opinion between Nehru and Jinnah, which led to Partition of British Raj. I am of the opinion, that India shouldn’t have been partitioned because Muslims would have been significant plurality in today’s Indian democracy, around 40%. I am Muslim with a very secular outlook, I believe all human being should be treated equally and fairly under the rule of law. there are 8 countries in South Asia and India have left behind each and every one of them a decade behind in terms of HDI, economic and social prosperity and global respect. If I were to spend some time in SA, I would go to India. My family is from India. If you have a secular India today, the foundation was laid by Nehru. All the other stuff you stated about Nehru are correct. My ideal world is where everybody gets along, but that is a an utopian thinking.Recommend

  • Cynical

    @Mehdi

    I admire the overall spirit of your posts and the tone of understanding in it.

    But I beg to disagree with two of your observations.
    Firtst, ‘Nehru was also biased towards Muslim rule….’
    He probably was, in a sense that he was a great believer in a secular democracy and in that sense he was also against a Hindu rule. No neutral historians/political commentators ever accused him of being communal. In fact he risked his life on the streets of Delhi in more than one occasion in trying to protect the Muslims of Delhi from the Hindu/Shikh mob during the post partition riot (Sept,1947). In fact even today the right wing Hindu zealots accuse Nehru of being a sympathiser of Muslims as they did 66 yrs ago and they mock his idea of ‘secularism’ as ‘sickularism’.
    Second, also if India as a country exists as a contiguous republic/state is because of Muslim rulers, earlier it was a loosely small princely kingdom.

    The history of this subcontinent tells us otherwise. It’s true that the early Muslim rulers found an India littered with many independent states/kingdoms, but Indian history is much older than the history of Persian/Turk/Central Asian invasions. At the height of Mughal empire during the times of Aurangzeb (1700 AD) the area under its contol was 1,351,357 sq.mile. which didn’t include the present day Assam, North Eastern states and a large part of the southern tip of India. Compare this with the Mourya Empire (322-185 BC) having controlled 1,930,512 sq.mile and that was roughly 2000 years before Aurangzeb.
    The Maurya Empire was largest ever in the Indian subcontinent. At its greatest extent, the empire stretched to the north along the natural boundaries of the Himalayas, and to the east stretching into what is now Assam. To the west, it conquered beyond modern Pakistan, annexing Balochistan, south eastern parts of Iran and much of what is now Afghanistan, including the modern Herat and Kandahar provinces.
    Regards.Recommend

  • Mehdi

    @Anoop:
    I was just mentioning about Muslim rule and cabinet formation in regards to being biased not Muslims. I do agree with your point of view about Nehru.Recommend

  • Mehdi

    Thanks for taking me down 3 millennia of historical facts.Recommend

  • anam khan

    criticism is very easy because we believe that we have mouths to speak up…. critiques are the eunches in a heram who know what to do n how to do but they cant do it themseleves… stop criticising pakistan… its a state governed by people like u… atleast we dont pretend like budhists who are slaughtering muslims in burma n still they are called most peaceful people.Recommend

  • http://www.dizzyinkarachi.com Maliha

    @Ali Rahman:
    I applaud your words but bear in mind that no country in the world is 100% aligned with its founding principles. In the case of Pakistan, it was a utopian experiment that went horribly awry. It was never meant to be a country. Think about its creation, a result of breakage, fracture. How can such an entity ever become a whole? So what to do now. Recommend

  • http://www.dizzyinkarachi.com Maliha

    No country is ever truly aligned with its founding ideology. Pakistan was never meant to be a country. That is the core problem.Recommend