Please don’t kill my goat, or camel (II)

Published: October 26, 2012

What’s worse – many children (some as young as 10 to 12-years-old) are encouraged to hold the knife during the actual moment of throat-slitting. PHOTO: REUTERS

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It’s that time of the year again, and what can I say that I haven’t already lain down in my first blog post:

Please don’t kill my goat

But if there is anything that I am, it is persistent. So without further ado, here is a list of even more gripes I have with bakra Eid and the way it is conducted.

1. Many animals that are slaughtered on Eid tend to be murdered by amateur butchers that crop up all over Pakistan hoping to make a quick buck by running a knife any which way through the millions of animals that are lined up to be put down.

2. What’s worse – many children (some as young as 10 to 12-years-old) are encouraged to hold the knife during the actual moment of throat-slitting. You know that moment right? The moment when there is maximum pain and suffering for the animal. Yeah, great idea having a fumbling child or adolescent’s hand holding a knife being pressed down on a terrified living creature by an amateur butcher. Very mard-e-momin or what-have-you, and yes I say mard, because I don’t recall ‘ever’ seeing a woman partaking in this slaughter.

3. Blood is everywhere. It is congealed at my doorstep. It is in my lawn. It is sprayed across the newly whitewashed walls of my neighbourhood. It is pouring onto the streets and no one, I repeat, no one seems to have any civic sense or an iota of responsibility regarding the clean-up. I understand that we are a filthy nation with no regard for each other, but it’s a religious festival – shouldn’t this be the one (sorry, three) days where we at least pretend to care?

4. In an agriculture-based, poverty-stricken dump of a country like ours, one would think that meat eating would be considered a distant second to a healthy, vegetable or grain-based diet, but no!

“To hell with our Hindu roots”

I have literally heard that yelled out at a family gathering, meat is the pinnacle of the Pakistani diet; the fundamental food stuff everyone must aspire to, regardless of whether they can afford it or not, and whether it is healthy or not. Meat is just cool. Nowhere is this exemplified more than on Eid, where meat, glorious meat is literally all anyone eats for a day, no wait, a week, no wait, a month after.

5. Beggars and scam artists generally get my goat (pun intended), but on bakra Eid the degree to which beggary and scams are encouraged is just outrageous. Whether it is the unscrupulous behaviour of our political parties and banned organisations (shame on you all) fighting it out over animal skins or donations, or the incessant ringing of the doorbell as beggars become the ‘meat gathering mafia’ complete with emotional blackmail and the occasional assault and forced entry, the meaning of Eid becomes simply this: gorge, feast, material gain, gorge again, puke, get a plastic bag, horde and gorge again.

6. Camel sacrifice. ’Nuff said.

If you haven’t seen a camel being sacrificed in Pakistan, please do so and let me know at what point stabbing an animal 12-20 times in the neck as it runs around screaming in a circle while a crowd of people cheer is not a barbaric inhuman violence-celebrating spectacle, as compared to say, something spiritual that Islam condones.

I’m going to stop now. The horror of it all makes it really, really impossible to go on.

Eid Mubarak!

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Nadya V

Social critic and part-time gossip monger

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Pakistani Student in Canada

    This does look barbaric actually. I have never bought or sacrificed a animal tbh. We usually give our share to mosques who then buy cows.

    We should do what Saudis do. Buy coupons and let proper slaughter houses (like those operated by Mcdonalds) sacrifice these animals.Recommend

  • http://www.zaidzamanhamid.wordpress.com zaidu

    We are Muslims. Every Muslim is a soldier. We have to learn killing. It makes us strong. Otherwise what would be the difference between us and hindus.Recommend

  • Fahad Khan

    We murder animals to convince ourselves that we’ve earned religious benefits and blessings.What else will we do in the name of religion? Religion cannot be served by the mass genocide of animals in a barbaric manner.We shouldn’t take our obsession with religion to the extenct that bezuban animals have to pay the prrice.Recommend

  • zeeshan malik

    How can we ‘celebrate’ such gore and bloodletting? What kind of society are we creating where children from a young age are taught to celebrate and express happiness when slitting the throats of poor,defenceless animals.We are desensitizing our children to violence by telling them such mass murder is not only okay but a ‘good’ thing.
    There are other less gory,less morbid ways of showing our devotion to religious ideology.Recommend

  • Hamza

    What is wrong with the writer? Why must everyone poke at every little thing that bothers them and turn it into a huge affair ?

    When you talk about the blood and pollution, I would agree. However, to actually take part in the qurbani has high reward (sawab) attached with it. Yes, the crude way you put it ‘slitting the throat’ – thats not how it’s taken in religion. Yes I also wouldn’t advise it for trembling hands cuz that increased the animal’s pain. So that’s something which the elders may wanna correct.

    Amateur butchers? Perhaps they are seen more in number when they roam in individual streets, but where large amount of animals are congregated in an organized manner, that’s definitely not the case. These amateur butchers are in minority ma’am.

    As for camel sacrifice, its been made more of a show. However, people all over Pakistan view all sacrifices as spectacle, be it camel or cow. Yes the camel sacrifice attracts more attention, but please allow some things to be simple tradition and people having a little bit of fun and understand it, even if you can’t like it.

    Not everything must go as you please. Let the people have their private moments of joy. I love this Eid, because I love animals. I love getting close to them, spending hours with them, and yes when they are sacrificed, it hits me more than it would more a normal animal that I’m not attached to. Recommend

  • De

    @Zaidu Are you even Muslim? Seems like u just came here to provoke others and pick a fight. A Muslim is a soldier because he’s in a battle with Satan. Not because he has to kill a Hindu. What makes us strong is trusting Allah and fearing only Him, not sacrificing an animal in the wrong way!

    t’s true that alot of amateur butchers have sprung up who dont even know how to slaughter properly. There is a specific way to slaughter so that the animal doesn’t bear much pain and the brain shuts off instantly. But all these other morons just slit a throat like ignorants. What’s worse is the intestines laying around on the streets! Although some poor people actually take that away to eat but still it’s just unclean and Najasah to leave them in the streets where people walk and the flies gather around them and spread diseasesRecommend

  • Asad Faizan

    Time for the religious apologists to spring into action and paint this mass murder as acts of ‘mercy’ and ‘compassion’.Our people should have the courage to call a spade a spade.What is cruel and savage doesn’t become any less savage when ppl give religious justifications for it.Recommend

  • Mustaqeem Yousfani

    what is wrong with writer, and what is even WRONG with ET. Completely non sense and ridiculous. its just like writer has tried her level best to attain cheap publicity and ET i have seen you have attained this. we slaughter Halal Animals and this is ordered by ALLAH so why the hell you have been interfering in this. As De said, There is a specific way to slaughter so that the animal doesn’t bear much pain and the brain shuts off instantly. so why the hell you ET is promoting a negative view of ISLAM. first RESEARCH ET, then allow something to publish, stop publishing those blogs only which give you ratings because its controversial, it must give you a logic as well.
    GROW UP ETRecommend

  • Hassan Khan

    the animal does not feel any sort of pain when it is being slaughtered!
    The ‘slaughtering’ is to be done by cutting the throat, windpipe and the blood vessels in the neck causing the animal’s death, but without cutting the spinal cord.
    The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerve of the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. While dying, the animal appears to struggle, writhe, shake and kick, not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles deficient in blood and due to the flow of blood out of the body. Recommend

  • babar

    there should be difference in killing and slaughtering the animals.Recommend

  • hasni

    kudos for being so forthright about the entire thing. takes courage in a place like pakistan.Recommend

  • Parvez

    Nadya V has so many sides, I salute you on this one. No matter what air-head stuff you may write in the future, this one makes up for all of them.Recommend

  • halblooded

    @Asad Faizan: Mass murder? What is wrong in slaughtering? Yes it has to be done cleanly no doubt, but you sir have sort of mistook the point. ‘Cruel and Savage’? Next time you eat meat, remember this comment, which is evidently a desperate attempt at sound-like-an-intellectual.Recommend

  • http://facebook.com/naive.nervy Nigar Iqbal

    I am seriously agree with this point of view. I mean Eid-Ul-Azha in Pakistan is literally a night mare for innocent animals & as well as for me, because to tolerate such horrible sights everywhere in the city is really difficult for my kinda person. Slaughtering of animal should must be done in professional manner in accordance with Quran & Sunnah, otherwise it’s simply called the CRUEL KILLING OF INNOCENT ANIMALS !!
    Due to extreme illiteracy of people, the worst phase of animals start when they are bought to the houses from mandi, from that day till the Eid, the little devil children of illiterate parents keep on teasing them by making them run, beating them by sticks & much more. After that they have to bare the extreme pain of unprofessional slaughtering !!! To sum up we can just say that in most houses of Pakistan Eid-Ul-Azha is trouble for animals due to people’s illiteracy !!! Recommend

  • Munawar

    Being capable of slaughtering an animal and skinning it is one of the most important skills a man should have. Yes we aren’t hunter gatherers and live in a society where it isn’t required but what if there’s a war or other ordeal? wat are you going to do in a situation like that? Call the butcher?
    As for the curelty argument. Sorry bro, but we are on top of the food chain. Thats how it is and thats how it will be. You are free to survive on vegetables but don’t hold your breath expecting me to comply with your morality.

    I am sick and tired of the whole let the professionals do it attitude that is making its rounds, contributing towards the pussification of men all around the world. To everyone, just man up.

    P.S. I slaughtered an animal the first time when I was 15. Any post puberty kid has enough strength in him to do the job without messing it up. And you have to do it a first time to learn how to anyway.Recommend

  • Ayesha Pervez

    I cannot watch a qurbani… and I dont like it when people make a show scene out of it… its just…. sad :(Recommend

  • Abhi

    @munawar
    Please list down the other important skills that are required by Man?
    What about women? shouldn’t they also have this important skill just in case.
    I think you should also add one more important skill, killing animals with bare hands because you never know if in case of war you will have a knife or not.Recommend

  • Ayesha Pervez

    Since I am a writer, I sent a childrens story on Baqra Eid to a Canadian Magazine. I wrote about Baqra Eid and and the ideology behind it in a story form, which was very gentle and childlike (atleast hopefully it was) but the story was rejected by the magazine and I do wonder if they didnt want to expose kids to such thinking ….Recommend

  • Amber

    Bravo Nadya! Saying it like it is without regard for the masses. I admire you and welcome back to ETRecommend

  • Ayesha Pervez

    Ive seen a Camel Sacrifice at my uncles place once … when I was young. I cannot forget the scene. It is not a nice memory for sure.Recommend

  • sorry

    Any type of killing is painful . But it not fare to kill an innocent for under any religious thought .
    Where we enjoy the sacrifice then it no acceptable to kill other for ourselves. Recommend

  • Shahrukh Kazmi

    There is whole lot of difference between sacrificing and KILLING you made this blog so negative by writing all kind of negative things about Qurbani do you even know the reality behind this whole sacrifice i am sure you do know it but probably not in detail don’t do this. If you actually want to prove it, do in a professional way by logical points and keep your anger to your self don’t show that in your writing skills and by this blog i can see how professional are you.Recommend

  • Ashar

    What I see in the comments is people defending something without properly reading the article.

    The Eid ul-Adha sacrifice is part of the Muslim faith, hazrat Ibrahim was order by Allah (SWT) for the ultimate sacrifice of his son, and was rewarded when hazrat Ibrahim obeyed Allah’s will without flinching. But slaughtering animals without remembering this sacrifice nor understanding the underlying reason for this Eid is not part of our faith.

    Islam has given proper guidelines for scrificing an animal, be it for Eid al-Adha or for daily consumption. What happends in Pakistan is people tend to forget those rules and slit the throat, either in a, “let’s get on with this!” attitude or with a, “let’s put on a show for the masses” one. Islam bans cultural activities which go against the faith, a point some of you people should know rather than parade the ‘Pakistani culture’ flag.

    In the end, all of us are answerable to Allah (SWT) for insignificant sins such as crushing a harmless insect for fun, though this fact too is lost in the mindset prevalant in Pakistan.Recommend

  • bambi

    is it permissible to taser the animal or any other way to make it unconscious before slaughtering it? wouldn’t that be a better idea?Recommend

  • http://www.kabacreations.com Vishnu Dutta

    Last three images made me sad. How can you cheer when a helpless, harmless and innocent animal is bleeding to death in front of you.

    Lets just sacrifice our bad habits and donate money people.Recommend

  • Critical

    Can some well versed muslim please answer my question???

    Which son did Abraham(Ibraham) try to sacrifice ???

    Ishmael or Isaac???

    Because I get contradictory versions when I check the Jewish and Christian version compared to the muslim version…Recommend

  • HeeraNitish

    Oh god!ET pics r really outrageous and you should not allow to publish it.Pics r strictly for adults.I couldnt eat for full day after looking at the pics.Cant believe newspaper like ET which is read worldwide,balatantly. publishing the pics depicting violent and ruthless killing of innocent animals. Atleast you have minded for the kids in your own country.Recommend

  • Muslim

    The problem with most of the muslims is that they are confused! You either follow Islam or your don’t!

    When you are instructed by the Holy Prophet (PBUH) to sacrifice the animals in the name of Allah, there should not any questions about my liking or disliking about the event!

    The hadees goes as ‘Islam mein poray ke poray daakhil ho jao’! There is no extremism or liberalism in Islam, its either you follow Islam or you don’t!Recommend

  • Claude

    Quran teaches to think and decide not just do what is written even in Quran which is always context specific. Now animal sacrifice is very much context specific for a desertic area like Arabia where only meat is available, no vegetables. Anyone living in S. Asia may do better to donate equivalent food in bread and vegetables which will feed 10 times more people.
    Of course I’ve no arguments if you’re learning to kill in preparation for war. But then what is the point of blaming talibans who are prepared only for war and don’t know what peace is. Recommend

  • http://pakistani-revival.blogspot.com Ovais

    next thing u liberals will ask us is to not sacrifice and then not celebrate eid at all… valantines day ftw right … now who is being extremist ..Recommend

  • jitender verma

    pehle sabhi muslim bhahiyon ko meri taraf se eid – mubarak ho…..
    i know this is sacrfices ,,,,and i also agree muslim is a soldier……bt keep ur religion side and think for humanity ……….some people says this sacrfice should be done by professional butcher…….some says “The ‘slaughtering’ is to be done by cutting the throat, windpipe and the blood vessels in the neck causing the animal’s death, but without cutting the spinal cord.
    The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerve of the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. While dying, the animal appears to struggle, writhe, shake and kick, not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles deficient in blood and due to the flow of blood out of the body” ……..ok iam agree with you your allah says this……attempt this process on your loving ones or on your parents and tell them your a part of sacrifice u should be glad…….another one…try it on yourself ……and think ..do u feel pain??? off course u dont feel the pain and your loving one also dont feel the pain but ……do u have a right to take a life from someone wheather it is animal or not,,,,,think ur self ……think for humanity ….eid mubark ….allah may bless you and proud of you that you bring humanity from practising quraan kareem ……thanxRecommend

  • Socko

    the entertainment show during the sacrifice itself defies the purpose of it… Lets look at what “Qurbani’ means… I think it is something that you surrender for the sake of a higher reason, that is very precious to you… If you enjoy and have fun while sacrificing, then its not sacrifice… it is a joke in the name of sac rifice.. Thinka bt this, will you have lot of fun sacrificing one of your Son/Daughter with the same knife for the sake of Allah… ..Recommend

  • i like what he’s having

    @Hassan Khan:
    so is the same “medical” viewpoint also valid for humans? thus would you thus advocate that this method be used to carry out capital punishment, as its “painless”Recommend

  • Diddums

    As you so rightly mentioned, as you are hailing from a country with high illiteracy rates, massive poverty (hence your mafia type beggars), not forgetting huge class divides, child labour, women’s rights violation, deaths by trivial matters such as dirty drinking water etc I would have thought you may have put your last year into perspective. The writing suggests you are a little blinkered , if a little precious, and are more worried about the fact that your doorstep is covered in congealed blood and your newly whitewashed houses (done so by the hands of the poorer class nine times out of ten) are tainted with red. At least you have a doorstep and a roof over your head.

    Animal rights are important, yes, but in a country where people are barely treated as humans, I think that they can be set aside for the time being. Feel privileged you are able to worry about such matters, while most of the members of your society are sat up all night worrying about how to get their children their next meal.Recommend

  • Virkaul

    @i like what he’s having:
    Well argued!Recommend

  • Zeeshan

    What a shame on the muslims who have written such ENLIGHTENED comments on the holy day of Eid! Comments based on lack of knowledge, ignorance and lack of understanding about the issue are but only COMMENTS without any reality. Perhaps had you done some research about this beautiful day, you would have understood what it stands for.
    The only reason amateur butchers flock around is because most of you Muslim Men are scared of what Allah has ordered you to do! Learn how to slaughter and do it yourself !
    When Abrahim (PBUH) lay down his Son (Ismail) as a test from God to sacrifice the most beautiful and dear thing, Ismail (PBUH) consented and and told his father to carry out the orders by Allah…. and Allah Almighty accepted his intention for sacrifice and replaced Ismail (PBUH) with a Ram. Ring a bell??? and here they call the act “BARBARIC”.
    When your Prophet (PBUH) sacrificed animals on this day in the name of Allah, he wasn’t ashamed, nor were the righteous men who followed were ashamed. Are any of you better men than Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) or any of the Prophets who came before??? Barbaric, huh?
    NO, but by Allah in truth YOU ALL want to be respected in the Eyes of the UN BELIEVERS and your friends who themselves are ignorant! BUT REMEMBER…. All RESPECTS and IZZAT is with Allah…. and He grants to whom He wills…. or have you preferred Lords other than Allah?
    Read the translation of your Holy Book and Sunnah of your Prophet (PBUH). Be Men of Islam (Submission to the words of Allah)!
    Sacrifice in the name of your Lord! Unless you WORSHIP opinions of the unbelievers or so called ENLIGHTENED Ones!Recommend

  • Usman Shahid

    How barbaric is it to capture the pictures and paste them on ET blog?

    I wonder why the ET “main” bloggers complain that they are labelled as anti-islamic? Recommend

  • South African

    First of all most of the points you made has nothing to do with eid. It has everything to do with the state of your country. I live in south africa and we dont have blood on walls etc but we do slaughter so dont blame the action blame your peoples ettiquette. Also, the only way to slaughter a camel is to stab its neck due to the fact that all its vital l pipes and veins are close to each other. You cannot slaughter a camel like how you would slaughter any other animal. Please get your facts straight and dont write rubbishRecommend

  • blogger

    Eid-ul-adha is supposed to teach the spirit of sacrifice to Muslims. Sacrifice means that if a certain situation arises, we should be willing to give away our most precious possession in the name of God. For example, when Pakistan was in a debt crisis in the 90s, women gave away their jewelry, etc. to nawaz shareef to get pakistan out of that crisis. Now that is real sacrifice. Likewise, we should be ready to help out the underprivileged and downtrodden in our society. There is so much poverty in pakistan especially after the rising inflation under the current government. We could help the poor by donating clothes, furniture, cash, etc. That would be of more benefit to them than distributing meat to them. Also, instead of slaughtering animals at every nook and corner, it would be more hygienic and professional to conduct this slaughter at mandis or at designated slaughterhouses only. Otherwise, the filth left leaves stench and is unhygienic also. Recommend

  • Irfan Afridi

    Animals are animals. Behave them like animals and do not think that sacrificing animals is merciless deed. Me dear, everyday in every country animals are slaughter to eat, this is Islamic festivals. Why do you cry for it?Recommend

  • Irfan Afridi

    @Critical:
    Ismial (AS) was tried to have been sacrificed but Allah knows the depth of the humans. He was safe and the trail was accepted.Recommend

  • Iqbal Arni

    @Hassan Khan:
    Dear Hassan: With all due respect, what you say is incorrect !

    Dr Craig Johnson and his colleagues at New Zealand’s Massey University reproduced the Jewish and Islamic methods of slaughter in calves. The calves were first anaesthetised so although their pain responses could be detected, they wouldn’t actually feel anything. They were then subjected to a neck incision. A pain response was detected for up to two minutes following the cut, although calves normally fall unconscious after 10 to 30 seconds.

    The animals do feel a lot of pain, hence I never indulge in this sacrifice. We as a society should evolve brother.Recommend

  • Faisal

    That’s why I used to sacrifice my Bakra all by myself because once I’ve had a terrible experience of an armature and believe me the whole process is very easy (in my opinion for only one Bakra) and full of excitement it just takes 2 to 3 hours to finish the whole job with one or two helpers (could be your son or brother). I’ve just finished one just 3 hours ago and after all the distribution of mutton in needy people and neighbors I’ve had a wonderful lunch and now I’m enjoying my Baqr-a-Eid. Eid Mubarak to all.Recommend

  • Ayesha Pervez

    Everyday animals are slaughtered for us to eat, Im a meat eater myself so why the fuss on Eid? The only problem I have is when people make it a scene of entertainment with children standing around watching with amusement or intimidation….. the act of sacrifice should be a sombre one.Recommend

  • Virkaul

    @Ovais: Celebrate the festival in a humane manner. Why are guys happy to see blood. Celebrate it like Eid ul Fitr. If one argues that the tradition starts with Abraham sacrificing as God ordered him to. But Abraham is said to have taken his son to the altar. Instead, you guys find a easier way to offer sacrifice. Buy animals and slaughter them. Only Satan may be pleased by such acts. Please give up such cruel practice.Recommend

  • Mj

    Ritual animal slaughter isa barbaric and potent window into humankind’s backward past. Every other civilization has moved beyond such bloodletting rituals, realizing how inhumane it is. It is time for us too to do the same.Recommend

  • Mj

    @Zeeshan:
    “When Abrahim (PBUH) lay down his Son (Ismail) as a test from God to sacrifice the most beautiful and dear thing, Ismail (PBUH) consented and and told his father to carry out the orders by Allah…. and Allah Almighty accepted his intention for sacrifice and replaced Ismail (PBUH) with a Ram. Ring a bell??? and here they call the act “BARBARIC”.”

    If a voice in your head called upon you to sacrifice what is dearest to you, would you go through with it? What do you think about this story: Woman thought God told her to kill sons – CNNRecommend

  • abhi

    who is sacrificing here? you or the animal?Recommend

  • Zalim Singh

    how about becoming vegetarian?Recommend

  • Ali Syed

    This blog is so cute.Recommend

  • http://www.milk-n-cookies.blogspot.com Abeer Khan

    The meat we eat throughout the year comes from the same animals, except this time around we actually see it happen in front of our eyes. What about all the beef legs and boti you have all the year around? And what about the huge number of chickens that are sacrificed everyday?

    Plus, there is a huge difference between condemning the ‘wrong ways of slaughtering animals’ and ‘condemning the slaughtering of animals’. Not everyone in Pakistan does slaughter in the right, correct way following the guidelines laid down by our religion. However, it does not make the slaughtering of animals wrong and “barbaric”.

    Open your eyes and kindly think (read: think a lot) before you speak and write, rather than writing things you have no knowledge about. Writing about something which carries such important in our faith an off handed manner – with pictures of animals being slaughtered in the wrong way – being portrayed as the only way of slaughtering animals globally. Kindly, refrain from belittling the religious practices of your religion with such shallow thoughts and baseless ideas. I wonder how you got published the second time around. It was quite pointless and baseless the first time around.

    P.S. I would suggest you write an article on “how to prevent wrong slaughtering practices” rather than wasting your time stirring weird, nonsensical and utterly WRONG perceptions about our religion. Recommend

  • http://tribune.com p r sharma

    @zaidu:

    ” We are Muslims. Every Muslim is a soldier. We have to learn killing. It makes us strong. Otherwise what would be the difference between us and hindus.”

    i Why a Muslim ( per aforesaid comment) is obliged to know or learn killing. Does it really make the killer strong.? Killers to me are most unsecured and coward . I feel that it is forgiveness which makes a person strong.Recommend

  • Zeeshan

    @Mj:
    How would you know if the voice in your head was of God and not Satan who as per Islamic tradition runs through your veins like blood? That is what happened to the woman in Texas.
    You have to know the whole story of Abrahim (PBUH) and his relation with God to understand Eid Sacrafice…you can’t equate it to a crazy woman in Texas. There is a difference in THINKING and KNOWING….. just like there is a difference in EDUCATION and WISDOM.Recommend

  • Prerna

    Quite as shocking as the pictures on this blog are the comments by the Pakistanis ,who one assumes are educated as they are commenting on a English newspaper website.Even though I am atheist,today I shall say,thank you,thank you god for the partition of India.Recommend

  • Middle approach

    The article doesn’t focus at all on the real issue. Qurbani itself is not bad. In our society, where humans are mistreated, what can we expect about animals. Islamic tradition encourages mercy towards animals. From Sahih Bukhari:
    “While a man was walking on a road. he became very thirsty. Then he came across a well, got down into it, drank (of its water) and then came out. Meanwhile he saw a dog panting and licking mud because of excessive thirst. The man said to himself “This dog is suffering from the same state of thirst as I did.” So he went down the well (again) and filled his shoe (with water) and held it in his mouth and watered the dog. Allah thanked him for that deed and forgave him.” The people asked, “O Allah’s Apostle! Is there a reward for us in serving the animals?” He said, “(Yes) There is a reward for serving any animate (living being).” Recommend

  • anonymous

    Here’s something (i stole from twitter) for everyone who thinks slaughtering an animal on bakra eid is wrong “#Elitia Tweet: “Yar I hate how we brutally slaughter the poor animals on Eid” Schameeze, Aylanto pe sirloin steak enjoy karte hue.” Talk about hypocrisy haan, which is at its peak in most comments and in this blog. I would not have a problem with this article if writer and everyone against slaughtering animals on eid is ACTUALLY A VEGETARIAN. otherwise YOU GUYS ARE HYPOCRITES.Recommend

  • Rahim

    I wonder if (God willing) Ismail A.S. was sacrificed in real by Hazar Ibrahim A.S.?? We would have followed that tradition too then?
    In my opinion, inspite of following the spirit of any act, we are just following physical acts of our beloved Prophets.Recommend

  • sulmanshahid

    to offer sacrifice of such a secret animal camel in the muslim eid-ul-azah is inhuman so the we should prefer it in the less harm way otherwise apperently it seems in 21st cuntury people still living in the stone age. salughter houses are comperatively better.insteat of makink people senseless.

    have a happy eid mubarak. Recommend

  • sulmanshahid

    wr should prefer the slaughter houses otherwise it is the makikng peaple apperenthly senseless if any one who has to offer the sacrifice in the way of allah it must be least harm with the any animal which is to be sacrifized.

    have a happy eid mubarak. Recommend

  • Omar

    @Hamza:

    “However, people all over Pakistan view all sacrifices as spectacle, be it camel or cow. Yes the camel sacrifice attracts more attention, but please allow some things to be simple tradition and people having a little bit of fun and understand it, even if you can’t like it.”

    “Simple tradition” and “having a little bit of fun” end where gratuitous human or animal suffering begins. One is not obliged to tolerate excessive animal suffering merely because those causing it happen to enjoy it. This is a terrible argument.

    “Why must everyone poke at every little thing that bothers them and turn it into a huge affair?”

    Animal suffering is not a “little thing.” Have some compassion. One ought either to quit eating meat altogether or to consume meat that has been professionally and humanely slaughtered. Recommend

  • curious

    @anonymous:

    If,
    Slaughtering is essential for meat eating, because meat has to come from somewhere.

    Then
    How about becoming a farmer and a baker before eating bread. And becoming a sheep/cow/camel breeder before becoming a slaughterer. After all not only meat, the animals also must come from somewhere.Recommend

  • Idontknowwhethertolaughorcryatthisdribble

    @Mj:
    watch ”glass walls paul mcartney” then ull see how rubbish your comment wasRecommend

  • G Indian

    Animal slaughter belongs to slaughter house; not on public road in front of young children. Studies from the Federal Bureau of Investigation(FBI) has shown that 40% of animal abusers are linked to psychopathic behavior. In another study by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA), people who has history of animal cruelty are five times more likely to commit violent crimes against people. Recommend

  • Gupt Rogue

    @nadya–
    God bless you. You are one human, nay angel, living among all the demons.Recommend

  • Gupt Rogue

    @nadya–
    God bess you. You are one human, nay angel, living among the humans.Recommend

  • Tch tch

    @Iqbal Arni: You cant feel pain when unconscious. Recommend

  • MQM Slaughter

    My blood boiled, when Mr. Mustafa Kamal (MQM) appeared on media and said; people of Karachi wholeheartedly gave MQM sacrificed animal skin and we have achieved big number, let me tell you, how they have achieved big number.
    I think it is necessary to mention that, I am Urdu speaking person and my family is living in Karachi for last 50 years.
    The slaughter is made by various political parties in Karachi, (especially MQM) by demanding sacrificed animal skin as extortion because you are living in their jurisdiction and they have right to withdraw by all means. I have personally witnessed and victim of this brutal act, let me share dialogue with you. I like to write their name but………. I am waiting for my time to fix them. (InshAllah)

    Date: 28/10/2012, Location: Karachi Central, Time: 9:23 AM.
    Two young chaps arrived on motor bikes and asked me to hand over sacrificed animal skin (a goat),
    Me: No, I have decided to give it to somewhere else, thank you.
    MQM: We are also your brother and please hand-over the skin
    Me: Brother, I told you, just leave.
    MQM: Do you know, we are doing welfare and proving help to poor people.
    Me: Yes, I know but the matter is religious
    MQM: Whom you will give the skin,
    Me: Its mine and it is on my disposal. OK to Madarsa.
    MQM: We always come to you for help, do you remember any Madersa came to you.
    Me: I don’t expect them to help me and it’s not their job.
    MQM: Brother, give me skin or we will take it from you.
    Me: Bring your senior.
    MQM: Cell Phone to some other guy, he arrived on motor bike.
    Me: They are demanding skin, why.
    MQM: Senior guy: Take the receipt and handover, meanwhile one more motor cycle arrived and said pick it man, we don’t have time. Hand over the skin otherwise we will take yours as well, intestinally, lift his shirt to display his weapon (all laughed like doges)
    Me: If you can take it, take it why asking me. It does make any difference for me (asking and snatching)
    MQM: (5 chaps, against me) we shall see you.
    I am not afraid at all but worried, if they can threat someone for Rs. 300.00 skin they would kill some without any doubt. It is useless to say that, someone should take notice but MQM should think that should intervene in religious matter like “Sadaqa, Fitra and Qurbani”. You have heard Chief Justice Remarks on Karachi extortion i.e. In Karachi, non-Muslims are also bound pay Fitrah (haha). Recommend

  • Daniyal ur rehman

    if hazrat ibrahim (A.S) was ready to slit his own son throat with his own bare hands without thinking that it was cruel or barbaric then how come you say that its barbaric while doing the same with animals ??? do u actually know the meaning of QURBANI????Recommend

  • yogesh kumar

    eid mubarak bhai logo.Recommend

  • Gupt Rogue

    Nadya is one human being (angel) in a sea of heartless people.Recommend

  • josh

    Would happily cut the throat of anyone who supports this. Recommend

  • Dogar

    As ‏@SaroorIjaz said and I qoute; Libidos will eat Lamb chops the whole year but will make fun of them on Eid. unqoute.Recommend

  • mahaam

    @Faisal:
    that’s purely disgusting shame on you! i cannot believe that people slaughter animals in front of everyone making it like a “show” or somethingRecommend

  • jimmi

    Poor animal… What wrong has he made?
    Animals and people are very important… societies that threat animals and people well are good societies.Recommend

  • fahad

    is’t so , that kind of killing is barbaric.i do not think so,oherwies how we are eating the other type of animals and how they been killed ,it’s fast to make the sacrffised animal rest fast with less pain plus all religions agree in such way to slaughter the animals with right tools for fast finishing Recommend

  • DM

    ALLAH doesnot get your animal but YOUR TAQWA.

    The true spirit of Qurbani is to Sacrifice YOUR NAFS before Allah’s Commands and Muslims do this as a reminder to the Great Qurbani that Prophet Ibrahim A.S did by sacrificing his beloved son for the Will of ALLAH. ALLAH saved his son after testing his QURBANI of his nafs and his priority for ALLAH SUBHANA WA’TAALA.

    There is a need to spread the true spirit of Eid Qurban; it is a reminder of our faith almost two months after Ramadhan, when we all were crying for forgiveness and seeking Allah’s will and promising to become a real muslim onwards.

    Eid Qurban calls another reminder to muslims to prefer Allah’s commands in their daily lives and this includes HUQOOQ Al IBAAD as well as NEIGHBOUR’S CARE. Once this is done, all that the writer focused will not be a problem anymore.Recommend

  • Mariam Huzaifa Sodawater wala

    Animals are creature of Allah with one sense less than us, i.e sense of speech. Vegetable and fruits are also living, feeling creature of Allah as proved by scientific reseaches. It means when we eat food some one is bound to get killed. If one doesn’t stick to visual effect and think sensibly , he should be terrrified by killing , slaughtering and even chopping of vegetable. Or one might ignore coz the ‘ bezuban vegetable’ couldn’t even protest at this brutality.
    Religiously, the animal which receives Qurbani on this occasion is lucky one amongst thousand who were cut year round, for being sacrified in the name of Allah on this auspicious occasion is an honour. This make the crowd rejoice for him instead of feeling pity.
    Cattle breeds quickly and their population increases very quickly. If they are not sacrified, in just after few years their will more cattle than humans in the world and their population keeps growing.Recommend

  • anonymous

    @curious my point was, why condemn slaughtering an animal on a specific occasion when you eat it the whole year. The writer is condemning the killing of these animals. and about “becoming a farmer and a baker before eating bread” as you said, that’s totally different than my point. I am also against the slaughter on the roads in front of everybody, i think these animals should be slaughtered in slaughter houses like they are in regular days. But that was not my point. Again it was that why would you feel bad for the animal on one specific occasion when you eat it all year round? I can’t watch qurbani happening so i don’t watch it. i stay in my room or whatever, you can do the same. No one’s forcing you to see the animal die. Recommend

  • Leslie

    China is skinning ALIVE up 100k animals a DAY (mostly dogs and cats) for the fur trade and the horror is intentional. ALL this sick shit makes me ask myself constantly does man really deserve the right to exist? No, we are not involved, but we should all be involved in ending this barbaric treatment to other creatures who are completely innocent and don’t have a voice or weapons to defend themselves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxVwsA2MLWA&feature=share&list=PL804D85E40CE6CAFERecommend

  • Leslie

    @Hamza:
    “Let the people have their private moments of joy.”
    WHY the hell do you find inflicting horrific death to other species “A private moment of joy?
    Do it to each other, leave animals alone!Recommend

  • CompassionateHuman

    @Hassan Khan:
    Let try that on you by observing EMI on your brain and see if what you said is really true or not. Either say yes we dont care whether it is painful or not for the animal or say no to this barbaric ritual. Violence to animals in the name of god in any region should be condemened. Please wake up and be humans. Humans are elder brothers of all living creatures whose responsibility is to protect preserve and love them.Recommend