So, what do Canadians think about Pakistan?

Published: August 31, 2012

I was discussing some of my design work with a friend of mine, wondering what the film and design industry in Karachi is like, and how my work could make a difference back home.

Considering I have an educational background in film and design, she pointed me in the direction of a video blog post. She sent me a couple of examples of what people were currently doing and I was inspired to do something similar.

Having lived in Pakistan most of my life, I knew that most people abroad saw Pakistan through the lens of the media and news channels, and it was not half as bad as it was described in the news. Luckily, I was going to be going on a camping trip that weekend, so I decided to take my camera along and ask a couple of campers what their perception of Pakistan was.

What I hoped was for their perception to change, to be viewed from a new lens – my lens!

At first, the campers around were a bit hesitant about the interview but they soon started easing up to the idea.

Funnily enough, many of the responses reflected on how Pakistan was a reminder of the partition of the subcontinent and how Pakistan reminded them of India. It was great to know that many of the participants enjoyed Pakistani food and culture.

I asked the men and women, both, whether they would ever visit Pakistan and almost all of them said they would love to do so! The women were interested in Pakistani fashion. One of them went as far as saying she would love to visit her friends in Karachi and shop for all the beautiful dresses Pakistan has to offer. Another mentioned how he would like to visit Lahore as the city was once a Sikh kingdom and most of their gurus originated from Lahore; he thought that Lahore was a beautiful part of the country.

Upon asking them whether they believed everything the media told them or how their perspective was different from that portrayed by the news, I am proud to say, many of them said they didn’t really believe the news.

One of the campers said,

“So I know what the truth is, media doesn’t really make the country look good though or the people. The Muslim people in general”

Another said,

“All I hear is what’s on the news, and it’s like a fear factor going on over there, it’s just that they try to keep everybody afraid…it seems like everything’s a pot with a lid on it, ready to blow up”

Having enjoyed this experience, and realising that Pakistan is in dire need of a new visage, I decided that I would like to continue conducting similar interviews. Although this was my first time and I feel like a lot still needs to be discovered when it comes to the general image of Pakistan across borders, I’m hoping that my lens will help bring about a change, as nominal as it may be.

One of the campers, when asked what message he would like to send back to Pakistan said;

“Message to Pakistan from Canada is about love, it’s about peace, about getting along and if the fella that’s interviewing me right now is an example of Pakistan, I find the people are very kind and honest and no different than I try to be myself here in Canada.”

 

Hasan.Habib

Hasan Habib

A Motion and Communication Designer who studied at Vancouver Film School. Hasan enjoys photography, videography, doodling, drawing and painting and his work can be seen here hasanhabib.me/

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Noman Ansari

    I used to live in Canada and spent a huge chunk of my life there. I love the country. It is awesome. But I do know one thing. What actual Canadians think of Pakistan is very little, because they don’t know much of what goes outside their borders. Then again, they are a happy bunch. Ignorance is bliss. Recommend

  • Salman Ahmad Awan

    Yo Yo!Recommend

  • Sane

    Congratulations. I believe that people like you can create positive perception about Pakistan and Pakistanis. Western media purposely depicts a wrong picture of Pakistan. Despite problems, which are there in every part of the word that type of this type, Pakistan is a place to live.

    Canadians are people to love and I send Love from Pakistan to them.Recommend

  • Siddiqui

    Having a Pakistani ask about Pakistan is like asking “what do you think about me”? So people,are unlikely to say what they really think. Having lived in north America for three decades, I know that the typical westerner thinks that Pakistan is a hell-hole Islamic country in the middle east out to send jihadis to murder them in their sleep. That is if they have heard of Pakistan at all, which some have only through 9/11, Daniel pearl etc. A major issue is that we have no cultural presence in the west, while india wields a lot of soft power here through its cuisine, yoga, meditation, spiritual gurus, classical music, bollywood, mahatma gandhi, “5000 year old civilization” etc. in fact, my son learns about india in his American school as one of the four world’s major cultures. They celebrate Gandhi on Martin Luther king day in January, etc. but not a word about Pakistan!!! We have to start projecting our culture and traditions and stop the bad news flow for people to think differently about us.

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  • ali sindhi

    ha ha ha i view from nordic most of pakistani identify them self as indian here.. just to get a job just to get space a in the European society i wish land of pure have courage to see face that they have in the world on a safe side there must be wrong in the mirror not in your face so brake the mirror Recommend

  • tj

    Forget about what europeans think yesterday i told my colleague who is a lebanese to come to Pakistan and he exclaimed “Pakistan is burning”!! And im
    Lik no its not!Recommend

  • BlackJack

    @Siddiqui:
    I think that is very well put. But then (dropping the Islamic hell-hole point for which there seems no recourse in the short-term) what culture can you possibly project that positions you differently from India? Everything that you communicate as Pakistani culture is already projected by India (which happily owns the pre-Islamic history even in areas like Gandhara and beyond) and I don’t think people are going to fall for the theory that a 65-year old country has a distinct culture. The history of Pakistan that you people glorify in Pakistan Studies with Md bin Qasim, Ghazni, Ghori and other murderous savages are of no interest to the West, and trying to own the Indus Valley civilization is akin to ancient Mesopotamia being part of Iraqi history alone. Bangladesh on the other hand can claim co-ownership of rich Bengali culture including cuisine, philosophical thought, art, literature etc if they wish. My suggestion is that you stop comparing yourselves to India – as you have learnt from your son’s experience, not every country has soft power or the kind of history/ leaders that are of interest to the West – what you need to do is to ensure that you aren’t in the news for the wrong reasons.Recommend

  • fahad zia

    Pakistanis don’t even have good opinions about themselves.. why go somewhere else..Recommend

  • Umer

    Having lived in Pakistan most of my life, I knew that most people abroad saw Pakistan through the lens of the media and news channels, and it was not half as bad as it was described in the news.

    Really? Are you Ramsha, Aasia Bibi, one of Gojra victims or a Shia or one of the abducted Hindu girls? What would you know?Recommend

  • bangash

    @BlackJack
    India does not have a monopoly of subcontinental history and Pakistan can claim ownership of the 5,000 year history of the lands on which the country is founded.Recommend

  • Vikas

    Pakistan is the most dangerous place in the world. Propaganda will not change the reality on ground.Recommend

  • Rsingh

    Waiting,
    So, what do Americans think about Pakistan?Recommend

  • Zafar

    @BlackJack
    what were you doing on a Pakistani site, you shouldnt even be here as we Pakistanis do not offer anything of value as you claim. Keep your venom with you and if you dont have anything constructive to say then stay away and be happy in your hole.Recommend

  • RK Singh

    joking, right?Recommend

  • Sinclair

    @bangash

    Pakistan can try. But as it is wisely said,
    “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”
    Pakistan has to come up with something original. Something worthwhile which came just from Pakistanis.Recommend

  • Historian

    @bangash: I have been following this debate with interest, as I am a historian. I don’t think it is really possible for Pakistan to lay unique claim to 5000 years of history (Indus valley, gandhara etc) as that history is actually a precursor of modern India. That is, they are basically Indian in conception and has continuity with modern india.

    Btw, this sort of thing happens a lot where the modern inhabitants don’t have strong connections with the past history of their land. Good example is turkey. Before the recent advent of Turkish tribes (mostly nomads from central Asia) the land that is now turkey was part of a Mediterranean culture. In fact, the very founder of western literature Homer who wrote the first Greek epics of Iliad and odyssey in the 6th century BC is from Smyrna in modern turkey and is Turkish if he were to be defined geographically. But no one of course would consider Homer to be anything but Greek, because his culture was clearly Greek.

    The same is true with all of preislamic Pakistan history. Unfortunately they would always be labeled Indian in scholarly circles ( who don’t much care about political wars).Recommend

  • BlackJack

    @bangash:
    I agree. But it is Indian history, I am sure you will agree – ancient India of which a part is now Pakistan, and having an aversion to using the word India merely complicates your proposition.Recommend

  • kaalchakra

    Hasan, good job on your video whatever you call it. Pakistan’s ‘evil image’ is vastly overblown. Sometime back there was a beautiful article about a somali (or was it Yemeni) gentleman admiring Pakistan and QuadeAzam, and there must be many more countries that hope to become like Pakistan. So all these naysayers and sky-is-falling doomday soothsayers need to take a chill pill.Recommend

  • Cautious

    I have camped all over North American and have observed that campers in general tend to be nicer people – more relaxed etc than the public in general. I suspect that if the author took his camera into a local shopping mall or bar he might get a different perspective

    Pakistan rarely gets any news coverage in N American and what little there is is usually bad. If the same people who were interviewed by the author read Dawn on a regular basis I suspect there answers would be more negative — Pakistan has a serious problem with extremism/xenophobia and your treatment of the child with Down syndrome is classic Pakistan.Recommend

  • Sidewinder

    rather than changing the Image of your country ,change the Country…it will be beneficial.take it in any way…..Recommend

  • Parvez

    Showing the positive side is admirable but denying that much, very much, is wrong and getting worse, would be plain dishonest.Recommend

  • gp65

    @bangash: “@BlackJack
    India does not have a monopoly of subcontinental history and Pakistan can claim ownership of the 5,000 year history of the lands on which the country is founded.”

    It CAN claim ownership but has chosen not to lay that claim. When it lionizes Mohammad Bin Qasim and Ghaznavi who attacked present day Pakistan – it says the pre-Islamic culture was not mine.

    Do you have schools that teach Hindustani classical music in Pakistan? No . BEcause you disowned that part of shared culture.
    Do you have schools that teach kathak in Pakistan?No.Because you also disowned that part of shared culture.Recommend

  • gp65

    @kaalchakra: So if you are seen as a role modelby YEmen and SOmalia, that would make you happy? I doubt that your fellow Pakistanis share such a vision for Pakistan. They might think that your dream is in fact a nightmare.Recommend

  • gp65

    @Siddiqui: Sir, before Pakistan can project its soft power, it has to recognizes sources of soft power and then develop them within Pakistan. This includes Hindustani classical music kathak etc.

    Another thing : I live in Dallas and all Pakistani restaurants identify themselves as Indian restaurants. Ofcourse Indians and Pakistanis know which is which but as far as the Americans ae concerned even if they enjoyed a Pakistani meal consisting of paya and nihari -which are unlikely to be served in an Indian restaurant, they will think they enjoyed Indian cuisine. Indian grocery stores describe themselves as just that. Pakistani grocery stores describe themselves as Indian or at most Indo-Pak.

    My cousin lives in Britain. He says that Indian call themselves Indian and most Pakistanis he has met identify themselves as South Asians. If people who have good experiences with Pakistani people and cuisine don’t even know they have dealt with a softer side of Pakistan, how will the image change?

    That apart there are aspects of Indian image that Pakistan cannot lay claim to anyway
    – largest democracy
    – secular country
    – non-violent freedom struggle
    – birth place of 4 religions
    – Music, dance and cuisine from SOuthern and Eastern parts of India that are not shared with Pakistan

    So I would imagine that changing the reality should be one element of the strategy to change perception.

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  • Pi

    Seriously, do you think that anyone will say something nasty to your face? Of course they will say positive things. Especially Canadians who are eager to not offend.Recommend

  • Pi

    @bangash:
    “India does not have a monopoly of subcontinental history and Pakistan can claim ownership of the 5,000 year history of the lands on which the country is founded.”

    Kind of difficult to claim ownership when the vast majority of Pakistanis seem to believe their history began when Mohammed Bin Qasim invaded. Not to mention that many Pakistanis do not even want to be South Asian rather they are bunch of Arab wannabes.Recommend

  • Pasha

    I have lived in the US almost three decades too and visit Pakistan almost once in 2/3 years, my opinion about Pakistan is about the same as that of other Americans who have never visited Pakistan but read news and stories in the media. Some stories might not be accurate but most of the stories are sourced from Pakistan media. So Pakistan does have poor image. Does that make me feel that it is my job to fix that? No, not at all.

    Pakistan has problems and they are real problems. We need to deal with them instead of making up videos and stories that don’t show the reality. As someone above mentioned, people are often polite and wouldn’t tell what they really think. There is no hypocrisy in that, it is just they don’t want to embarrass you. Don’t take it on the face value. You know Pakistan’s problems and again work to deal with them.
    Btw, I have never had problem telling any one I was born in Pakistan. If someone has issues with that, I can deal with that right away instead of demurring. For a long time, Iranians in the US told folks they were from Lebanon or some other ME country and hid their National origin but people knew. Lying about your national origin does not make you look different. Now after 9/11, all Iranians are persians. These are petty things. In Pakistan people shy away from dealing with the problems and they maintain the same attitude here too.
    I would not like to belittle India and its effort in resolving its problems, but for the longest time, Indians were usually known as starving Indians here. Many still remember dinner time Indian kids story too. Indians have worked to changed that and Pakistani have every right to change the current opinion too. It just takes efforts and acceptance of the fact that your country has problems that need resolutions.
    Thanks.Recommend

  • Vikram

    @kaalchakra: “there must be many more countries that hope to become like Pakistan”

    Yes, Somalia is getting there. Many brothers are becoming pirates and making millions. Pakistan can give them training in logistics for this business, provide them training in weapons.

    Wahabis are in Russia now. They just killed an 80 year Islamic leadeRecommend

  • Vikram

    @kaalchakra: “there must be many more countries that hope to become like Pakistan”

    Yes, Somalia is getting there. Many brothers are becoming pirates and making millions. Pakistan can give them training in logistics for this business, provide them training in weapons.

    Wahabis are in Russia now. They just killed an 80 year Islamic leader.Recommend

  • Vikram

    @Siddiqui: “We have to start projecting our culture and traditions and stop the bad news flow for people to think differently about us.”

    I think Pakistan is doing a good job hiding bad news. No one knows how many people are being killed in Balochistan or FATA. Pakistan Air force dropped over 10000 bombs in FATA since 2008 and no one knows how many people got killed. Every one is crying about drone killings.

    Americans very well know how Pakistan is playing a double game in war on terrorism. Pakistani army is training and supporting terrorists that kill NATO and US troops.Recommend

  • John B

    @bangash:
    Give it a rest. Throw out all you read out the window and start reading world history with open mind.

    The language, art, music, history, cultural practices and even water has the smell of India in PAK.

    PAK cannot write or tell her history without mentioning India and Jinnah has no historical role in world history without India and no one believes the PAK’s invented history for scholarly study. Recommend

  • http://bigsaf.newsvine.com bigsaf

    Interesting stuff. It’s a long weekend so there’ll be a lot of Canadians heading to cottage country and camping.

    Pak’s negative image was incredibly detrimental in garnering donations for flood victims. Compared to donation drives for previous disasters, it was peanuts. Besides donor fatigue for previous crisis and taking a flooding catastrophe less seriously than an earthquake, global people and governments were simply unwilling to part with their money to a nation notorious for corruption, and especially extremism. Thank Ban Ki Moon for his great help.

    Its quite bad enough that the Pak cricket team has to play on neutral grounds against international competition because of security threats for opposing national teams if they dared visit. How about tourism in Swat and G-B? There’s no sugar-coating it. Pak and Pakistanis can only improve its image if it can resolve many of the negative issues that make it to the news, even those that don’t.Recommend

  • Gary

    “Having lived in Pakistan most of my life, I knew that most people abroad saw Pakistan through the lens of the media and news channels, and it was not half as bad as it was described in the news. Luckily, I was going to be going on a camping trip that weekend, so I decided to take my camera along and ask a couple of campers what their perception of Pakistan was.”

    If you lived most of your life in Pakistan, how exactly did you know other people’s views/opinion? Not sure if your perception about other’s perception of Pakistan makes it a reality. There is a difference between seeking validation and seeking truth.

    “I asked the men and women, both, whether they would ever visit Pakistan and almost all of them said they would love to do so!”

    It’s a very polite way of saying NOT YES.Recommend

  • Gupt Rogue

    I love it when pakistanis emulate hindu and indian culture. Hinduism is buried in their hearts deep inside. Recommend

  • gp65

    @BlackJack: “@bangash:
    I agree. But it is Indian history, I am sure you will agree – ancient India of which a part is now Pakistan, and having an aversion to using the word India merely complicates your proposition.”

    There are many things about Indian soft power that are post 1947 and have nothing to do with our 5000 year old history. IT has taken effort to cultivate those aspects and Pakistan could do the same. The bottomline though is that it is difficult to change without changing the reality.

    Bollywood
    largest democracy
    one of the few non-Western secular countries
    Tata Nano
    software engineering and business process offshoring
    BRIC country
    One of the 10 largest economies in the world and one of the fastest growing large economy
    A large well integrated and successful immigrant population
    Recommend

  • agnostic

    Today’s News Express Tribune
    “Gunmen kill seven Shias in Quetta: Police”

    This is a daily occurrence and becoming quite monotonous and sickening and You are talking about Pakistan image as if the negative image is a fault of rest of the world. Wake up man. Recommend

  • True Indian

    Bull S**T…They all are afraid of the interviewer as he himself is a Pakistani and obviously they would not like to risk their lives by saying the truth upon a Pakistani’s face…I guess the interviewer is a smart guy to understand that they all are lying coz definitely he too could not beleive his ears….hahahahahahahRecommend

  • Randomstranger

    @gp65:

    I don’t see the point of showering praises on India on a Pakistani newspaper website. Recommend

  • Iqbal

    I live in the UK and my father is a doctor from Pakistan. It was my own father who taught me negative stereotypes about Pakistan. He especially disliked Punjabis and Pathans. In my schooldays he was fearful than my education would suffer or I would become radicalized if I had Punjabi friends. Recommend

  • Vikram

    @Iqbal: “It was my own father who taught me negative stereotypes about Pakistan. He especially disliked Punjabis and Pathan”

    A father should not be doing that. I bet there are lot of good Punjabis and Pathans out there. Your father did a good job by making you aware about importance of education.. His concern about you becoming a radical helped you too, I guess.Recommend

  • Adil

    I am also a Pakistani living in Canada. The problem is that many in Pakistan don’t value their historical assets such as being home to one of the greatest civilizations (Indus Valley Civilization) 5000 years back.Indians,despite having all issues back home have been more successful in both projecting their culture as well as getting adapted with changing times in terms of Software Industry,Commercial businesses and Scientific achievements.

    The roots of issues are based in mindsets which many people develop back home all thanks to distorted curriculum they study at school. Even schools that give you modern education and updated information are too expensive for majority of people. Therefore, many lower and middle class individuals read theories and ideologies which if not turn them into extremist,bigot or terrorist then atleast left them with an attitude full of denials and a perception that everyone out there wants to get Pakistanis and Muslims.

    Something more,especially for those Indians here who say that all the people in the video were scared.

    Eye Opener: An Indian-American Visits Pakistan

    http://usindiamonitor.com/2012/07/08/eye-opener-an-indian-american-visits-pakistan/

    From the article
    “The Western and Indian media feed us a steady diet of stories about bomb blasts, gunfights, kidnappings, torture, subjugation of women, dysfunctional government, and scary madrassa schools that are training the next generation of jihadist terrorists. And yes, to many Westerners and especially Indians, Pakistan is the enemy, embodying all that is wrong in the world. Incidents such as the beheading of American journalist Daniel Pearl, 26/11 and the Osama Bin Laden raid in Abottobad have not helped the cause either. Numerous international relations analysts proclaim that Pakistan is “the most dangerous place in the world” and the border with India is “the most dangerous border in the world.”

    I’m not naive enough to argue that these proclamations don’t have some elements of truth; through extensive academic work on Pakistan’s governance, its history, and its nuclear weapons arsenal I know that some problems are real. Rather, I am here to tell you that these aspects are overblown; that this country is about so much more, a whole other and much larger, beautiful, glorious, and uplifting side not given equal time by the media. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. And it’s time that Indians and Americans acknowledge Pakistan for what it really is as a whole- and our ignorance for what that is.

    Plus even Indian journalists such as Kuldip Nayyar and Sanjay Kumar acknowledge that many Indians think that Pakistani society comprise of people who just beat women,walk with swords and bombs etc….To my amazement, Times Of India which never leaves an opportunity to use and spread Pakistanphobia,didn’t even bother to talk about Karachi Literature Festival earlier this year where even many writers from India and Western nations had also arrived such as Shobha Dey.Recommend

  • gp65

    @Randomstranger: “@gp65:
    I don’t see the point of showering praises on India on a Pakistani newspaper website.”

    Like your moniker your comment is pretty random too. I was not randomly showering praise on India but responding to very specific posts by Sidiqui, Blackjack and bangash. If you see their comments and my response within that context you will see the point – or at least areasonable unbiased observer would.

    IF you disagree with any specific statement I made please feel free to refute but dismissing an opinion for no reason other than the fact that it comes from an Indian makes little sense.Recommend

  • http://tribune.com.pk p r sharma

    @ Dear author:
    ” I knew that most people abroad saw Pakistan through the lens of the media and news channels, and it was not half as bad as it was described in the news.” ;

    Every country and its people are looked through the lens of media and this is universal and not a Pakistan specific.You feel that it is not as half bad as described or the negative news have been exaggerated. .It is true that negative news get prominence over the positive news unless it is something extra ordinary ( in foreign media). these news create the image. Recurrence of similar incidents /similar news solidify the image. Activity of individual does not create the image, It is the group/sections of people from the society /govt having similar ideas.,faith., thinking. traditions / values, sympathetic action or omission which reflect the minds and ideology of society create the images.
    You are trying to justify your stand and belief that the people of Pakistan are good ,nice, normal with a culture of hospitality to guests by giving the feedback of campers accompanied you in Pakistan. But you will agree that a feed back fro the persons staying ina controlled environment whee every thing is fine will be obvious and honest too. i truly believe that ordinary people of Pakistan are as good, nice , peace loving, and gentle as any other citizen of western countries. As a Pakistani national your effort in this direction ( even though may bit be perfect) is appreciable.Recommend

  • Faaltu mein khwam kha

    have these guys seen the horrible videos of severed heads of Pakistani army men?or the dead shias,Hazaras or for that matter even Ahmadis,fleeing Hindus or christians like Rimsha and Aasiya bibi.have they seen lawyers showering rose petals on Mumtaz Qadri.or DPC spewing venom against them.Karachi killings,Quetta killings or killings literally all over Pakistan are not the figment of somebody’s imagination.the quote ”Pakistan se zinda bhaag” is not an exaggeration.Recommend

  • http://www.facebook.com/jag.nathan.7 Jag Nathan

    @bangash:
    You are quite right. But what part of the Indian history would you like to co own? Yours is a history of savages such as Mohammed bin Qasim, Ghori, Ghaznavi, Khiljis Baburs and Aurangazeb,. Yours is a history of destroying Hindu and Buddhist temples and burning down Hindu seats of education such as Taxila and Nalanda. Yours is a history of massacring Hindus and Buddhists to establish the rule of Islam. Your own history text books extol these facts. So what part of history would you like to own? Recommend

  • alicia

    @Siddiqui
    what is our culture? Is it just not simple Islamic culture and Western schools teach that too kids too. We don’t identify music, dance, drama, sport as a part of our society then how do we promote it in the west?Recommend

  • rafazliban

    why are we always worried about rest of the ASLEEP world thinks of us?
    Let them sleep! Who cares! This is our country, try to integrate a common perception within our own people and then worry about our “image”.Recommend

  • mano

    if anybody thinks that westerners are always thinking about pakistan then you are wrong…..ask them to point out pakistan in the atlas they will get it all wrong.they have recently heard about pakistan through media.that is all………they dont care about pakistan,kashmir or anything as long as nobody comes to murder them in day light.Recommend

  • Lodhi

    Once upon a time Pakistan was known because of Imran khan Jahangur khan wasim akram. Currently Pakistan is known on account of Usama bin Ladin,lashkare Tayyaba and IsI. Tourists knew Pakistan because of kafirs tan,kaghan and Sawat.
    Now Pakistan is known for haqqani,Rimsha Masih,Mukhtaran Bibi,and sipah e Sahara .Recommend

  • Naz

    As you SOW so shall yo ureap…..

    Average Pakistani family leaders have to wake up to the hatred beignspread in via schools , local mosques and friday prayer sermons… We should teach, we haev grow nup inspite of others not liking so… Stop these stories around Hindu/Israeli/ Christian intimidation.

    We wil lgrow but stil lat a slower pace….If we have to omuch ghairat.. we will only eat GRASS….. not hte green ones… the ones that come from Afganistan…..and live in a intoxicated world….. one pakistan iis equal ot 10 hindu soldiers etc…..

    Wake up and stop the folish history lessons and talk less on our Ghairat… Start english classes, science and maths calsses for boys and girls….. Push hte Wahabi out of our shores.. We are not ARABS…. we are Pakistanis……..Recommend

  • hareem

    i m a pakistani myself.v hav all the natural resources and evrything except literacy.70 percent of the pakistanies are illiterate.so lets wake up and educae the illiterateRecommend

  • maazigar

    if you keep on this way, then at some point the whole population belongs to only one ethinicity and if there is no other ethnicity, the word ethinicity doesnt need to be then.Recommend