Losing our dignity, one drone at a time

Published: May 23, 2012

I still haven’t forgotten a story that my father told me about eight years ago. We were sitting outside one late night, revelling in the midst of family and friends, smoking the traditional hookah and dining the night away. I don’t remember how we reached this topic but suddenly I found myself listening to my father reminiscing about the days when he first flew to Saudi Arabia in the 1960s.

He spoke of that time with great admiration and fondness, recalling how, when he first mixed in with the locals, the first question they asked him was where he was from. And the moment the Saudis heard he was from Pakistan, they would follow up with another question, asking him whether he was a doctor or an engineer.

It was not until a few days ago that I was reminded of this anecdote while sitting in a cab in Dubai.

I must mention here that I have the habit of always conversing with cab drivers throughout my journey. I find it soothing, especially when I see the joy it brings to the faces of the cab drivers who long to converse with someone while driving around a foreign city day and night, far away from their families.

These cab drivers always vary in nationality; from Egyptian, Indian, Afghani, Yemeni and Nigerian to Pakistani, your company for the taxi ride can be from any region.

On this particular day, the cab driver was from Pakistan’s region of North Waziristan. He told me that he had come to the UAE about four years ago. I asked him where he lived before, to which he replied  Saudi Arabia. At the mere mention of Saudi Arabia, I was reminded of the story my father told me about eight years ago. I found myself retelling that story to the cab driver. I enquired from him about his own experience of interacting with the Saudis. Here’s what he said:

Terrible. They don’t respect us. Sure, they respect our leaders when they fly there to do their Umrah, but they don’t respect the average Pakistani. And it’s not just the Saudis; it’s the same with the rest of the Arab world.

By this time, we had reached my destination. As I pulled out my wallet to pay the cab fare, I asked him what, in his opinion, were the reasons behind this change of Pakistan’s perception in the mind of the Arabs. He replied swiftly:

Money! In the 60s, Pakistan was the Asian Tiger. Our entire country was growing like Dubai. Now, we don’t have money and the drones don’t help either.

In that instant I realised that the man I was speaking to was from North Waziristan, the center point to the majority of the US drone attacks that take place in Pakistan. I asked him what connection drone attacks have with Arabs losing respect for Pakistan.

Sab kuch

(Everything)

How can anyone respect a country, the only Muslim nuclear power at that, which gets bombed by a foreign country every few weeks and does nothing about it?

I said nothing. As I placed the money of the cab fare into his hands, he refused to take it. After much difficulty, he accepted the payment and I walked out of the cab with more questions than answers.

Pakistan’s founder, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, in his address to a gathering in the city of Ahmedabad (Gujarat province of India) in 1946, a year before Pakistan’s creation, had said:

Pakistan is destined for greatness. It is a Muslim ideology that must be protected for time to come.

Sadly, today Pakistan is being drowned not by its enemies but by it’s own leaders. Corruption, nepotism and radicalisation due to lack of education plus poverty lays at the heart of Pakistan’s ills. From being the country that other Muslim nations looked up to, Pakistan has become a country that other Muslim nations look down upon.

It is imperative for the country to shrug itself of its ills, lift itself from the shadows of darkness and capture the greatness that it’s founder envisioned for it. Otherwise the country will continue to lose its dignity, one drone at a time.

This piece was originally published here

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Adam Sakia

An aspiring diplomat who is currently living a dramatic and unconventional life.

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Ayesha Pervez

    I just came to this blog to let u know you look a little like Ranbir Kapoor.Recommend

  • Ahmad

    Pointless meandering more than anything else.Recommend

  • Waqas

    Brilliant piece adam.The last line perfectly describes the reputation pakistan has among muslim nationsRecommend

  • faraz

    Saudi Arab got independence through British arms and money. US has been given the responsible for protection of Saudi monarchy and territorial sovereignty of Saudi Arab. Saudis and Kuwait hired US army to fight the first gulf war. US has bases in Saudi Arab, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain. Why don’t we admit the reality; Arab hatred for non-Arabs, especially against Asians and Africans, is nothing but racism. Recommend

  • Imran Con

    So you used a whole spot to relay a Pakistani cab driver believes drones are the reason of lack of respect.
    What’s different than the average comment on any drone related article?Recommend

  • Imran Con

    I might also add: was this reason offered to the man or was it his own theory? You know, like how everyone in Pakistan blames some outside source for lack of respect. It’s far from limited to drones as well as the reason. What makes this man’s theory more correct?Recommend

  • http://lonepkliberal.wordpress.com Loneliberal PK

    Dignity is what we lose when the world finds it increasingly difficult to name a terrorist who cannot be traced back to Pakistan as country of origin or training.

    I despise the drone attacks as much as any other bloke, but people often tend to forget why these attacks are being carried out in the first place.

    Most Pakistanis don’t like to admit this as it interferes with the usual jingoistic chest-thumping, but we do have a wee bit of a terrorist problem. And the traditional counter-terrorist methods haven’t been working exceedingly well.Recommend

  • Rehan

    I think the Arabs should be more concerned about their “dignity.” The world regards them as immensely lazy, incompetent and religiously radical in most cases.
    That said, one of the reasons for Pakistan’s economic decline is specifically its content backstabbing of its most reliable andy economically lucrative ally in the 1960s. America and Pakistan had wonderful diplomatic relations in the 60s, when America would use its economic and cultural clout to help Pakistan’s economy and education systems in every way it could. The agricultural revolution was made possible with American technology. The IBA, Pakistan’s most renowned business school, was set up by the University of Pennsylvania (Wharton), etc. This was all until the 1970s when Pakistan decided it wanted to go rogue and started to covertly and overtly defy and anger America simply for political reasons.
    Japan is what it is today only because it changed its diplomatic course vis a vis America following World War II. Imperialist Japan was an economically and technologically backward state up until then.
    Dubai, that you mention in the article, is part of the United Arab Emirates, a country that has maintained extremely close ties with the United States over the entirety of its existence. The expertise required to build a port in the desert, the root of Dubai’s economic progress, came from a mix of American and European expertise.
    Close ties and respect for the United States is a must if a country is to remain economically healthy. Even China has backed off from its confrontation with the US as it has now agreed to sanctions on Iran.
    Bottom line: The author has been watching far too many Pakistani talk shows that bring up pointless topics such as “dignity” to emotionally rile up their audience and increase ratings. Good relations with the United States are a must if Pakistan wants to move away from its current status as a Failed State, which is the secondary reason for it being the laughing stock of the world. The primary reason is its consideration of rather childish and emotional notions such as “dignity” in the world of foreign affairs.
    Warmest Regards,
    RehanRecommend

  • Basit Khan

    err . . radicalisation due to active state support. Poverty and illiteracy couldn’t radicalise baloch and sindhis.Recommend

  • mr. righty rightist

    You are worried about drones?

    Funny.

    Pakistan lost all self respect the day you disrespected Abdus Salam. The day you protected dawood Ibrahim. The day you rose petalled Qadri.Recommend

  • Umer

    How can anyone respect a country, the
    only Muslim nuclear power at that,
    which gets bombed by a foreign country
    every few weeks and does nothing about
    it?

    Exactly! Pakistan needs to handle the terrorist situation so it is no longer worrisome for the world. Urgent anti-terrorist action in Waziristan is required. If we won’t clean our house ourselves then someone else will do it for us.Recommend

  • http://NewYork Falcon

    Having seen Saudis closely, I can say that it has less to do with drones and more to do with the fact that they hardly respect any nation other than themselves. They have an informal hierarchy where poor Indonesians, Phillipinos, Pakistanis, Indians, and Bengalis come at the very bottom of the list with the next level up reserved for poor Arab countries such as Yemen and the next level up for rich Arab countries such as UAE and finally themselves at the top of the pyramid. Most likely your father met an outlier to begin with. As for the issue of sovereignty, I agree that drones are exacerbating the problems rather than solving it. Recommend

  • uncle

    And your point, beta?Recommend

  • BlackJack

    In the 60s, it is possible that Pakistanis did not think that they were Arabs. Now that they do, it is but natural for the ‘real’ Arabs to regard them with a mix of condescension and derision. I think Pakistanis are to blame to for seeking their identity in the speeches of their founder; for god’s sake, all that he did was help to separate you guys from India – the story from there on depends on how you define it. Here you quote his saying Pakistan is destined for greatness – well, infamy for sure. Somewhere else he speaks of everyone free to go to their houses of worship – that has no relevance either. Pls stop trying to find your rationale in the teachings or preachings of (supposedly) great people; the route to greatness lies within.Recommend

  • John B

    Needs work in conveying the topic. From drone, you jumped on to Jinnah and then on to the PAK corrupt politicians.

    “tell what you want to tell( title or introduction),tell (the body) and tell what you have told (conclusion)” .

    Here is the excerpt of answer on drones to ET by PAK foreign minister after her return from Chicago:

    “Drones are a means to an end, they are there to achieve a certain objective, so if you can achieve those objectives with different tools, which are acceptable to you and me, isn’t that a better tool? So we ( PAK ) are trying to look for tools that are mutually acceptable”

    US and PAK agree on the objectives and only disagree on the tools. That much is clear. It is also clear that PAK acknowledges that there is a problem in N. Waziristan that needs to be addressed. US had clearly told PAK what tool she is going to use (see your chart) and had repeatedly requested PAK to take campaign in N.Waziristan. Then Obama ran on campaign to send in drones if PAK refuses to act . PAK ignored or fooled her people into thinking that US is violating the sovereignty while refueling the drones inside PAK and gave a run around to US until May 2.

    PAK is still looking for a tool to put out the fire. Since both US and PAK agree on the objectives of drone, please call your politician and ask them what tool are they looking for and if they need any help in putting out the fire.

    Pak is loosing dignity not because of drone. She needs to first understand how to make a tool. That is how mankind progressed. Recommend

  • bharat

    Wow awesome article. Hits the nail in the head. The Pakistani people have been betrayed by its leadersRecommend

  • http://www.sadafabid.com Sadaf Abid

    Adam – A very well constructed thought. Congratulations! As I was reading through the brilliant construction, I had this proud feeling as it’s my style of writing. Sky is the limit for you and I look forward to see you as an established writer soon, insha Allah.
    Also, wishing you smooth transition from an aspiring to an accomplished politician.
    Personally I have lost faith in the old mythology of ‘waiting for Godot’ … WE deserve what we ARE and ONLY WE (the common man) can contribute to the upcoming revolution (as I see) by simply changing ATTITUDE towards Pakistan, the world and the people around. Hard times reveal enemies veiled in a friend’s garb. We need to learn how to handle such people and situations diplomatically and not emotionally!
    Wishing you all the best! and looking forward to read more words/thoughts from your pen/brain.
    Cheers!
    Sadaf Abid Recommend

  • http:[email protected] Sarah

    He is perhaps the first male blogger who has not mentioned his credentials to garner attention, I believe he is confident of who he is, aside his degrees and Alma mater. Great! By the way, he looks a Xerox copy of Ranbir Kapoor :)Recommend

  • Sarah

    Xerox copy of Ranbir Kapoor :) Its good to see a blogger not blabbering about his qualifications and Alma mater in description. Recommend

  • alicia

    Oh my gosh @ the first comment he does look a lot like Ranbir Kapoor… WeirdRecommend

  • alicia

    Lol maybe your dad had a good experience in Saudia Arab but I know a Pakistani family who went there right after Pakistan was made. They still live there and have infact become more Arabs than Pakistani but there Saudi counterparts still call them “Hindi” a supposedly derogatory word for Sub-contienent people.

    Also Saudis have little respect for any one but themselves. They never respected Pakistanis before drone attacks and probbaly never will. The only people who really scare them are Goras or angraiz and if you are not a gora then bad luck.

    Also we Pakistanis have a lot more things to be proud of than lazy Arabs. We might be going through a hard phase but the world knows Pakistanis are one of the most hard-working and intelligent nations in the world. Those hard-hearted Arabs have nothing on us. Recommend

  • Faizan Afzal

    So 60s was the coolest time for Pakistan. This certainly means that Ayub Khan was great. So why we curse dictators then? Ayub Khan was a dictator and most respectable ruler of Pakistan. I wish we could have atleast 10 more Ayub KhansRecommend

  • abbas

    chicks and their comments :)) well written piece ,I hope that our government takes praticle steps .Recommend

  • Ali

    People are against drones and opening of NATO supplies, but nobody looks at our ownselves. Why dont we actually get rid of terrorism ourselves so that nobody has to do it for us?Recommend

  • Ali

    Everybody raises a voice against the drones, nobody raises a voice against the terrorism. Its like we Pakistanis are actually guarding them. If we actually cared about that part of Pakistan, we would make sure it was not held by fanatics. If you’re so contempt on stopping drone strikes- tell me, have you ever been to Waziristan?Recommend

  • Pigeon

    You’re worried about your international repute in Saudia, my friend? Go visit USA and then they’ll tell you that its not the ‘Drones’ that have abused your ‘oh so dear dignity’ but the snakes in your backyard.Recommend

  • http://www.baahirezaman.wordpress.com Ali Rahman

    Adam

    Respectfully stated, I dont understand the point you are trying to make. Is there a solution that you have proposed or just narrated a casual encounter. From what I understand, there are certain observations for you and all the commentators here to consider. What is Pakistan? Is not not You and I. Pakistan is what we make of it. And we, the common people have not done justice and have always blamed a few on top. Tell me how long does it take to care of of those who we have a problem with. It is a matter of taking control of our country, a responsibility which lies with everyone of us. Yet all we do is to eat off of it without giving anything back. We need to graduate from a “crowd” into a “nation” before we can expect any good.

    As for the Pak-US relationship and all those who are supportive of it quoting the 60’s and the strong ties and IBA and what not, give me one example where the US has been involved without any vested interests. The policies of US are driven primarily by the ambition of taking more and more control over whatever it is that can add value or financial gains in teh long run. From that perspective, US is a brilliant country for it has an agenda and strictly follows is. I find it extraordinarily comical that a coutnry behind proven highest number of war cimes, genocide, and killings at large, are today the flag bearers of anti-terrorism movement. What happened in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan… And I am sure I have missed out a few.

    In conclusion, I would like to state that this country is ours and only we need to get our act straight in order to be able to survive and progress. Just look at how we are dealing with Karachi, a city which became a role model for Seoul! And by “we”, I refer to us, the general public, not the politicians who have only raped the country financially, not the military, which has no business in running of state, just “us” the people of Pakistan.

    AliRecommend

  • manish

    if he is from peshawar, who knows maybe he is distant cousin of ranbir kapoor’s extended family who converted to islam, instead of migrating to india.Recommend

  • ASingh Janjua

    he looks Arab like most of pakistanis..Ranbir Kapoor is Indian :-)Recommend

  • Alam

    Anytime, I see militants kill ppl in videos, or read news of schools being blown up, I wonder where the drones areRecommend

  • David Smith

    @Uncle. For God’s sake, give the kid a break! He still hasn’t got over the hookah with his father.Recommend

  • bharat

    Another things which most Pakistanis have forgotten is that their nation does not need to depend on any other nation. But nation building is a challenging exercise, it requires educating the masses, building proper systems like educational institutes, etc

    The Pakistani politicians have done little to help develop the country.

    It has gone down and down with each passing year.

    The sad part is that this fanaticism in threating to destroy the country forever.

    Every day you read of violence in the cities and towns on secterian lines.

    Things will only get worseRecommend

  • Farhan

    This article is pointless. The Pakistani cab driver is, as most Pakistanis, stuck with a myopic view where anything that fits into a narrow mindset is accepted.

    Having lived in the Arab countries myself, my experience of Arabs is that they view all the South Asian or ‘labour class’ countries as inferior to them.

    Our image as Pakistanis, is dented not only in Arab countries but throughout the world as we always associate ourselves with extremist circles. Recommend

  • http://... Mdsr

    pointless and baseless article. are drones the only issue with this country’s respect?
    how about religious extremism supported by intelligence agencies and the army? how about illiteracy? how about incompetence and corruption of politicians? how about abusing of minorities and even muslims in this so called land of pures?Recommend

  • Ali cheema

    I disagree with u bro….for all of us who travel to dubai they hate us not because we are being droned…that because of the stuff that our country men do..!!! hav u ever noticed at immigration tables how our fellow countrymen behave. Even in the most sane and refinned systems they have found a loop hole and try to exploit it…whether its the UK or Dubai…… RESPECT MY FRIEND IS EARNED NOT JUST GIVEN…..once u looseit u loose everything….
    regarding ur drone ideology fro disrespect…dude get up…all arab countries including the UAE, QATAR, SAUDI, BAHRAIN etc…have major US military presence there with established bases….US Marines moved into Iraq from SAUDI ARABIA…NOT PAKISTAN…if a war is fought between IRAN n US…all major military offensive will b launched thru Saudi & the UAE….so these countries shoild b the most disrespectful by your ideology rite…??? but they are not….Please stop blaming US drones for our indecent behaviour as a society, no education or poor health standards….Drones dont litter, spit or s**t in our streets do they…????? So grow up start realizing your own faults…..cuz they we look into ourselves & stop blaming others for own failures is the day we ll change.Recommend

  • Sane

    And many other factors to add disrespect of Pakistanis in Arab and other worlds. Convicted person is the prime minister. The protectors of crimes and criminals are ministers. Plunderers hold the most top notch. Govt. itself and bureaucrats do not follow court verdicts instead criticize every decision which are against them or their cronies. An MNA (Aslam Madhiana PPP) of ruling party beats a noble teacher and even after arrest harass and arrange beating his lawyer. An MPA (Shumaila Rana) caught red handed using credit card illegitimately expelled from her party (PML, N). But after sometime again elected on reserve seat as MPA supported by the same political party. Most of the leaders are Hippocrates, incompetent and cheaters. And many more alike reasons….Recommend

  • Gillani

    We better not start talking about International reputation… Otherwise i’m going to pretend to be a indian.
    @Alicia: please stop watching Zaid Hamid shows and start being realistic. Acceptance is the first step to progression. Denial and delusion of grandeurs will only take us backward.Recommend

  • Shahid Ashraf

    Apologies to the writer but this blog doesn’t make any sense to me. Linking Drone attacks in Pakistan and its military prowess in the Muslim world with the respect of Pakistanis in the Arab world??? Confusing!! Yes, Pakistanis have lost their dignity and respect in the world in the past few decades because of many reasons like terrorism, drugs, smuggling, corruption, rapes, anti-women and anti-minority laws etc. But in my humble opinion that has got nothing to do with our degrading respect in the eyes of Arabs. In my opinion the Arabs have always had a sense of pride in their own culture and language and had never seen other Muslims as equals.

    Secondly, all above reasons for our notoriety as a nation are post-1979 when the Zia regime tried to Islamise the society. The more “Islamic” we are becoming, the more notorious/impatients and fascists we are getting. This might hurt many people but it is the truth. The kind of exhibitionist, ritualistic, and dogmatic Islam we are being forced to embrace is going to take us nowhere! Recommend

  • Shyam

    Who would have respect for someone who lives in a filthy house. Maybe if he took up a broom and cleaned up a bit the neighbours might start respecting himRecommend

  • G. Din

    @John B:
    “US and PAK agree on the objectives and only disagree on the tools.”
    Think again! There is a forked tongue involved here!
    “That much is clear. It is also clear that PAK acknowledges that there is a problem in N. Waziristan that needs to be addressed.”
    You fell for it – again. Is there any wonder why you have gotten bushwhacked again and again? Remember the saying: “Fool me once, shame on YOU; fool me twice, shame on ME”? Now, where should the shame be sitting?Recommend

  • John B

    @G. Din:
    US is not dumb. The strength is make your adversaries think that you are dumb and that you can be easily fooled, and play along with them.

    PAK president and FM were flying back and she was giving this interview while the drones were being loaded and refueled and sent to N. Waziristan. Who is at shame now?

    US plays the game like Muhammad Ali: Stay in the ring, observe all your opponents moves, take the hit and exhaust your opponent and come back with one knock out punch. Game over. For this to happen, one needs stamina to stay in the game.

    US has staying power. Does PAK have the stamina. Answer is no. The question is now whether to wait for the opponent to die of exhaustion or to give a knock out punch.

    US is just playing the third round in the ring. Recommend

  • Pakistani Agnostic

    This article is rather vague.
    in 1960s, oil was not yet discovered and Saudi was one of the most backward states in the world. They respected everyone. Ever since they got rich, they think they are the Allah Mian and rest are their slaves (apart from goras). Recommend

  • Big Rizvi

    Well, it doesn’t depend on your country much. It depends on who you are and your personality.Recommend

  • Shridhar

    Everything was going good for your country till 70’s. If someone amongst you find out what & why it went wrong later on & find the remedial action required & convince the people to follow that path, then you can regain the respect from world community ( I am not sure about Saudi Arabia)… if not the future is very uncertain…Recommend

  • KDP

    @Ali cheema:
    Most American Troops entered Iraq from Kuwait alsoRecommend

  • Anon

    @all those offended by the arabs
    When Pakistanis complain about the treatment meted out to Pakistanis by Arabs, it makes my blood boil. Tell me one part of the world where Pakistanis are given respect? It is alot of worse in the West where every walking Pakistani is treated as a terrorist, is put on surveillance, and the FBI only needs an excuse to put you on their watch list. Oh and yea try getting a visa to any of these EU countries or the US, not only is the process torturous but your subjected to lengthy background checks. So please as someone living in an Arab country, I can assure you Pakistanis are treated alot better here. Yes there have been problems in recent years, but the fault lies with both sides i.e. discriminatory treatment by Arabs against Pakistanis and then Pakistanis themselves doing stupid things to merit such attitude. In countries like Saudi, UAE and Kuwait, Pakistanis are repeat offenders more than other nationalities in cases of drug trafficking, assault and even bootlegging – do you think such behaviour helps in improving our image abroad? Also Pakistani governemnt has for years fallen into a habit of borrowing money from Arab countries in the name of development, only to squander it over corruption. Even the US is getting sick of giving us money.
    As the author mentions Pakistan was looked at as a leader of Muslim nations, and we can still get that status back if we clean house first. It’s not too late, one should only see how Turkey has transformed itself from the sick man of Europe to a rising regional and European power.
    @Rehan:
    Compared to Pakistan, the bankrupt EU and the economically and militarily defeated US – Arabs still have a comparatively better standing in the eyes of the world. Even if these people are lavish ATLEAST they spend some of the oil wealth on their people and have updated infrastructure networks (much better than many EU countries) and unlike Pakistan which despite its natural wealth has failed to get anywhere in the last 64 years. Before you jump to mock them you need to realise we are in alot worse state and reputation than them due to our own and our leaders fault.Recommend

  • expat

    Adam the only reason why Pakistani reputation is suffering is because the liberals of this country have digressed its direction from its rightful place as a leader of Muslim nations like we were in the 60’s and 70’s and insisted on turning us into America’s sycophants (who btw treats us in an even more condescending degrading manner than the Arabs) Remember it was Pakistan who was behind the creation of OIC (Organisation of Islamic Countries) and Bhutto even advised the Arabs to group together and form the OPEC inorder to get greater control over world oil prices. It was loaned PIA aircrafts and ex Pakistani airforce pilots that were behind the creation of Emirates Airlines, and the Arabs looked at us with great admiration when we became the first Muslim country to build the nuclear bomb. It is because of our corrupt ruling elite, which includes these white-man complexed liberals who keep lambasting the Arabs and insist on joining Pakistan to India’s hip whilst remaining servile to the Americans.
    One only has to read the op-eds on ET to discern how much most of the writers go to great lengths in to sugarcoat US demands of Pakistan, lambasting the two-nation theory, whilst cajoling the readers to accept India as a natural ally(despite the lack of progress over Kashmir and our worsening water issues).
    Liberals of Pakistan desperate attempts to win affections of India and US resembles Turkish liberals desperate attempts to win the affections of EU (despite being repeatedly snubbed) once Turkey pulled back, focused on its economic welfare and stood up for the Muslim countries over issues of Palestine and Iraq it won respect. The day we stop trying to please Americans and Indians and go back to our traditional Muslim nations-oriented foreign policy so will we!!!Recommend

  • http://bigsaf.newsvine.com bigsaf

    How about losing dignity with one ‘strategic asset’ terrorist at a time? Try to think, does the world disrespect Pak on the drones, or disrespect them more for harbouring the most notorious terrorist in the world Osama Bin Laden in a settled house?

    Sorry, but the ‘diplomat’ missed everything between the 60’s and the 2000’s, the image of Pak and Pak’s diaspora, and the racist nature of Arabs towards non-Arabs, though Pakistanis continue to be willing cult slaves for them in their anti-India narrative. I can understand a taxi driver ridiculously concluding his dignity with DRONES, but a ‘diplomat’?! GLOBALLY (instead of the Arabs you want to pander to and have racial kinship with) Pak lost respect being a hub for terrorist tourism and being two-faced about it. Drones are only symptomatic of Pak’s mental thinking and character failures in most matters.

    Illegal hunting trips in interior Pak by Sheikhs and the willing Pakistani political and military slaves who accompany them who grovel for petro-dollars. Sovereignty violation? Dignity? Both Arab and non-Arab militants comfortable in Pak, murdering Pakistani citizens besides citizens elsewhere is not losing your dignity one militant at a time? Even at the Chicago summit, Pak was looking to extort money for the NATO trucks. Even if the drones stopped, the Pakistanis’ mischief and lowliness would not.

    Racism and disrespect factored in the ME against South Asian non-Arabs in the 80’s and 90’s, pre-9/11 and pre-drones. Even honest skilled doctors and engineers, or other professionals who helped build their air forces or newspapers in the 60’s and 70’s, were seen nothing more than outside slave labourers, faced with ‘Hindi’ discriminatory smears, who could have lived there for generations but instead abused by getting deported on any allegation or unemployment.

    No drone caused that disrespect. Fraud and scammers from the Pakistani diaspora worsened it, such as the BCCI debacle or being violent mercenaries for hire to crackdown Palestinians. While the Arabs racism should not be excused, it’s stupider to seek their approval. Blame yourselves for not being upright and smart in these matters. Recommend

  • Shahnawaz Ahmed

    Hope so, we will again gain that dignity and respect in the eye of world.Recommend

  • expat

    ET please dont block my comments just because they dont resonate with your ideology
    Adam the only reason why Pakistani reputation is suffering is because the liberals of this country have digressed its direction from its rightful place as a leader of Muslim nations like we were in the 60’s and 70’s and insisted on turning us into America’s sycophants (who btw treats us in an even more condescending degrading manner than the Arabs) Remember it was Pakistan who was behind the creation of OIC (Organisation of Islamic Countries) and Bhutto even advised the Arabs to group together and form the OPEC inorder to get greater control over world oil prices. It was loaned PIA aircrafts and ex Pakistani airforce pilots that were behind the creation of Emirates Airlines, and the Arabs looked at us with great admiration when we became the first Muslim country to build the nuclear bomb. It is because of our corrupt ruling elite, which includes these white-man complexed liberals who keep lambasting the Arabs and insist on joining Pakistan to India’s hip whilst remaining servile to the Americans.
    One only has to read the op-eds on ET to discern how much most of the writers go to great lengths in to sugarcoat US demands of Pakistan, lambasting the two-nation theory, whilst cajoling the readers to accept India as a natural ally(despite the lack of progress over Kashmir and our worsening water issues).
    Liberals of Pakistan desperate attempts to win affections of India and US resembles Turkish liberals desperate attempts to win the affections of EU (despite being repeatedly snubbed) once Turkey pulled back, focused on its economic welfare and stood up for the Muslim countries over issues of Palestine and Iraq it won respect. The day we stop trying to please Americans and Indians and go back to our traditional Muslim nations-oriented foreign policy so will we!!!Recommend

  • Riaz Khan

    @Ayesha Pervez:
    Isnt it strange,If a girl compliments on the looks of a boy in a blog…it looks perfectly normal…

    Whereas,If a boy does the same to a girl ,the fellow commenters would roast him alive(provided the moderators dont block them) ;)

    BTW,why should Pakistan lose dignity in front of Arabs??

    They are so lazy they need someone even to shoo the fly on their nose…

    I may sound like a chest-thumping misquided Pakistan patriot…but we are a self made country who grew up without having any oil deposits under us…Those Arabs cant even extract the oil without the help of SOuth Asians and Europeans…

    They could have dominated the world with their oil,instead they are the slaves of US…building obsolete buildings and splashing cash on meaningless adventures(like Manchester City)

    I agree that the sovereignity of our country is currently threatened,but with proper leaders and hard work of our citizens,we can be an economic superpower soon….
    whereas these Arabs will always be a slave to the West….

    Honestly,I dont mind working under Americans because they have developed the technology for past 100 yrs and they have rights to be above us..
    These Arabs are just lucky slobs who are sitting above oil deposits..

    The day,commercially viable alternate fuel is developed,they will be roaming with begging bowls…and I think that day is not far considering the price hike of oil these daysRecommend

  • Indian

    From being the country that other Muslim nations looked up to.
    When did that happen???Recommend

  • sab

    i live in qatar and the way these arabs treat us is the same as you mentioned…they consider us as inferior lyk totalllyy !! :lRecommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    Its a bit unnerving to know that people think they are losing respect because of Drone attacks rather than the fact that there are Terrorists, killers, murderers and Islamists in North Waziristan.

    Its even more troubling that instead of talking about Terror emanating from Pakistan, which in fact is responsible for Drone attacks, and the fact that it is all because of the foolish policies of Pak establishment, the writer goes on to present only the most uneducated of views.

    In the 1960s Pakistan was growing because of the US aid(Ironical, that you protest the same US help in eliminating Terror today).

    You quote Jinnah in the article. I hope you also know that Jinnah famously wanted US to help out Pakistan and had proclaimed that US and Pakistan will be friends forever(How is this different to what Zardari says when asking for money/aid).

    “This relationship [between the people
    of US and Pak] was strengthened and
    made more direct and intimate during
    two world wars and more particularly
    and more recently during the second
    world war when our two people stood
    shoulder to shoulder in defense of
    Democracy.”

    Continuing,

    “I am glad to learn that Your
    Excellency and the great country and
    people you represent, will give your
    co-operation to us in order to advance
    our economic and cultural relations
    for the mutual benefit of both the
    countries. I am hopeful that good
    relations and friendship already
    existing between the peoples of
    America and Pakistan will be further
    strengthened and the bonds of
    friendship between our two countries
    will be more firmly riveted. Your
    Excellency, I assure you that my
    government and I will do all that lies
    in our power to give you every
    assistance in the fulfillment of what
    is our common desire and objective. I
    once more extend to Your Excellency a
    warm welcome to Pakistan as the first
    Ambassador of the United States of
    America.”

    Add and subtract the niceties and compare it with Zardari’s address to Friends of Pakistan forum, you will find it very similar. Tell me how Pakistan has changed from the early 1960s to now?Recommend

  • Wateva

    @anoop
    please dont tell us what our problems are, indians are treated no better by the arabs in the gulf!Recommend

  • Abid P Khan

    @faraz:
    “Why don’t we admit the reality; Arab hatred for non-Arabs, especially against Asians and Africans, is nothing but racism.”

    Whatever happened to the tall claims of equality for all the people?Recommend

  • Raman

    @Author..MR Ranvir Kapoor.. Good job… nice flow of words…Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    @Wateva:

    Where have I claimed Indians are treated better than Pakistanis, can you please point out?

    I do not worry about people who are undemocratic, unsecular and do not share my values. If EU and USA and other Democratic countries deny visa just because I am an Indian, if my passport distinguishes me from other plane travellers, if my temples are looked upon as a source of Terrorism, then I might worry a bit.

    Thankfully, Indians are very enterprising and earn great reputation in Democratic countries. Thats good enough for me. If you think Pakistan is similar then good for you.Recommend

  • Doosam

    i guess we don’t lose our dignity when we kill our own women in the name of honour, throw acids on their faces, force them into marriages against their will; bomb our own schools, mosques, shrines; kill our own Christians & Hindus in the name of blasphemy; export terrorists around the world? Now what say you Mr.writer?Recommend

  • Ahmed bitar

    Hmmm… Why should Arabs respect Pakistanis? After all a conqueror never respects the conquered!! It is you folks who follow our customs, our religion, our sharia. We don’t even know what culture your ancestors had before we conquered your land. And, more importantly, you don’t know that either. Our relationship is basically asymmetric … And forever. So, pardon me if my compatriots are not respectful. It is just human nature. If you were an Arab you would do the same thing.

    BitarRecommend

  • Abid P Khan

    @Riaz Khan:
    “@Ayesha Pervez:
    Isnt it strange,If a girl compliments on the looks of a boy in a blog…it looks perfectly normal…
    Whereas,If a boy does the same to a girl ,the fellow commenters would roast him alive(provided the moderators dont block them) ;)”

    .
    Who said there’s justice in this world!Recommend

  • Noise

    “Pakistan’s founder, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, in his address to a gathering in the city of Ahmedabad (Gujarat province of India) in 1946, a year before Pakistan’s creation, had said:
    Pakistan is destined for greatness. It is a Muslim ideology that must be protected for time to come.

    Jinnah was simply pandering to people’s hopes. He simply was telling the Muslims of India what they wanted to hear. The way some of the our youth quote Jinnah its like they take him to be some kind of saint or philosopher, he was none of the sort. He was simply a smart politician with right-wing views. Recommend

  • ayesha_khan

    @Anon: “As the author mentions Pakistan was looked at as a leader of Muslim nations, and we can still get that status back if we clean house first.”

    Really? When was this? Within 25 years the Bengali Muslims (who were actually a majority – not a minority) decided that they wanted a separate nation. Indian Muslims have never looked to Pakistan for leadership. I also have never seen evidence of Indonesian or Nigerian Muslims looking to Pakistan as a leader. This covers the countries with the maximum Muslim populations. Until 1996 when Taliban came to power in Afghanistan, there was no evidence that the Afghans viewed Pakistan as their leaders. Heck even the Taliban did not agree to Pak proposal on urand line.

    Please tell me which country has looked to Pakistan for leadership and also do speciiy the time in history when this was the case.Recommend

  • Nasir Hamid

    This is an interesting view point, but one I disagree with having lived in the Middle East.The thing is Arab country’s labour force generally comes from Pakistan, India etc. And since the general mentality seems to be tht these guys are illiterate, labour workers the bullying stems from there. I wouldn’t call it hatred but rather picking on Pakistanis. The drone attack theory is false mainly due to the fact tht all other races including Bengalis, Indians and Philipinos are treated the way Pakistanis are. The fact is v wud hv been respected if our country had taken care of us. If I compare Pakistan to any country in the Middle East Pakistan has so much more to offer. We have one of the smartest work forces in the world which include some of the worlds best bankers and engineers. Some fantastic doctors which are sought world wide. Great universities, great food. Thn from a tourism perspective we have some great beaches in khi, some of the highest peaks inthe world around k2, heaven on earth in swat. Thn natural resources in KPK in the form of 5 diff stones and coal in thar. The list juss goes on and on. Had v gone on the right path v wud hv been the most powerful economies in the world, instead v hv the worst pssible law n order situation and lack of basic amenities. I think the main thing is v do a lot of the labour work in me countries and that makes ppl there look down upon us. Recommend

  • Cutie Author

    u r soooooooooooooooooo cute Adam :PRecommend

  • A Peshawary

    It is said “history does not lie”, ultimately the truth is coming out. I heard the name of Das and Bhagat from my father before I could see the Indian movies. What a petty; concocted history remained silent for more than half century but you cannot keep the historians silent for ever.

    A PeshawaryRecommend

  • jameela ki behen farkhanda

    ADAM the point is clear and the answer is also very very clear, why u take so much tension??:P lol, pakistan has a bad reputation not only in arab countries but all over. And this was never the case long time back. Its due to the same 9/11 story and so on that strongly changed pakistan’s reputation. They hate us but at the same time they are jealous too, because arabs really cannot do anything on their own, and due to their jealousy they even break the car’s mirror of the young pakistani boys living in saudi. I wonder why they would do that. Simple, because there is something that makes them jealous, and which makes us superior ..in some way!!Recommend