Who is the real enemy in Afghanistan?

Published: April 27, 2012

So who is the real enemy? Coalition forces and NATO? The taliban? Al Qaeda? The Haqqani network? President Karzai? Pakistan? PHOTO: AFP

In 11 years of warfare, Kabul has never seen a Taliban offensive such as this; government buildings, foreign embassies, NATO offices and bases were continuously attacked for two days by coordinated rocket and gun attacks around the country.

Deeming the violence as a ‘spring offensive’, it is disheartening to see that 11 years of war and devastation have not had the result some may have hoped for, and also raises questions as to who the ‘real enemy’ is, and whether the ‘enemy’ can be pinpointed to being one group or individual.

It also raises the question as to how many different perspectives there are to the Afghanistan war saga and its history.

Lastly, it puts into question whether or not the NATO transfer of power by 2014 will be as effective as previously hoped.

When it comes to attacks within Afghanistan, usually the Taliban are blamed. When it comes to cross border attacks, it usually is blamed on al Qaeda, the Haqqani network and sometimes the Pakistani Taliban.

I still do not understand whether all these groups are different, synonymous or overlapping?

With the onset of increased violence in Kabul and other areas of Afghanistan, the blame game has started, and rumour has it that the Haqqani network is behind the Kabul attack. Some say that the ISI is also involved, as they have ties to the Haqqani network. And some go even further to speculate, such as one Afghan minister, that an attack of this scale in Kabul can only be ‘sponsored violence’ and that it can ‘only be supported by a professional intelligence agency’, therefore indicating a Pakistani twist to the tale.

So Pakistan is an enemy of Afghanistan?

It is difficult to talk about Afghanistan without mentioning the histories and traditions of the inhabitants in the country, and the establishment of the 1893 Durand Line, the advent of colonialist rule, the threat of communism destroying Islam, and eventually the land in which Osama bin Laden would train his men to carry out terrorist missions around the world.

It is even more difficult to attempt a ‘solution’ to the Afghan ‘problem’ when there are a multitude of problems with different culprits. Some see the occupation as a problem, some see President Hamid Karzai as the problem, some see the Taliban as a problem, some see the Pakistani influence in Afghanistan as a problem.

So who is the real enemy?

Coalition forces and NATO?

The Taliban?

Al Qaeda?

The Haqqani network?

President Karzai?

Pakistan?

According to the US ambassador to Afghanistan, Ryan Crocker, the enemy is leaving Afghanistan too soon, before Afghan forces have a hold on their country’s security. If coalition and NATO forces left before Afghanistan was secure then that would ‘invite the Taliban and al Qaeda back in and set the stage for another 9-11…

If you look at the bigger picture, I guess each group has a part to play in the long and controversial warfare in Afghanistan.

So are the coalition and NATO forces the enemy in Afghanistan or the saviours?

The foreign forces that came to Afghanistan to avenge the attack on the World Trade Center in 2001 were and still are seen as occupying forces that are unwanted. While they may be after the al Qaeda and the Taliban, the people of Afghanistan have fallen victim to the 11 year warfare that had nothing to do with them, and have had to deal with a failing infrastructure that could have seen improvement in the last decade had it not been for war.

While the coalition forces and NATO have secured certain regions and have attempted to bring stability to the Afghan leadership and government institutions, they have also been involved in the death of many innocent Afghan and Pakistani people along the border and in Afghanistan.

So is the Afghan enemy the Taliban or al Qaeda?

The Taliban are still a major threat to democracy and a secular way of life in Afghanistan, and to many Afghans and international critics so is al Qaeda. While the Taliban may want to regain control of Afghanistan, al Qaeda seeks refuge in its remote and hazardous terrain. Their goals may be different to the Taliban’s, as they have a global agenda, but they may work hand in hand when it comes to defeating foreign forces on Afghan territory.

So what about the Haqqani network?

Once a member of the Taliban government, Jalaluddin Haqqani was highly influential during the soviet invasion of Afghanistan and is thought to be the link to the ISI in Pakistan. The Haqqani network has been deemed the top most enemy network, so are they directly related to the mission of al Qaeda?

Or does the Haqqani network focus solely on south and central Asian regions from Afghanistan to Chechnya?

Are they a bigger threat than the Taliban?

Is President Karzai an enemy of Afghanistan as he is deemed an American puppet and has been involved in controversial decisions while ruling over Afghanistan?

Is the attack on Kabul foreshadowing what will happen under his rule when the coalition and NATO forces are gone? Or are the wrongdoers Pakistan’s ISI?

The Pakistani government?

Or Pakistan’s Taliban?

It is impossible to speculate with all the history and warfare the region has had to endure, but one thing is for certain, what has happened in the last 11 years of the country has been devastating. To rebuild Afghanistan will be a task that needs to include what ordinary Afghan’s want and need with the help of their friends, not people who want to exploit the nation or its resources.

For a more in-depth account of the current war in Afghanistan, you can read Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis’s account here  and here.

This piece originally appeared here.

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Manal Shakir

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  • Fahad Raza

    The real enemy of Afghanistan is the poverty of its people. What can be done is the forth dimension approach. All the its neighboring countries like Iran Pakistan Tajikistan and Turkmenistan the whole country in four sectors where each country help its sector in its development.
    Now No way in its administration but sectors like education, agriculture, communication and Power. Like Turkmenistan can give development in power sector Iran can help in communication, Pakistan can take agriculture and education needs be taken care off by Tajikistan.
    Its an idea to make neighborhood better by helping out the neighbor in its time of need.
    We should help our next door neighbors or people blocks away can make there post in our neighborhood to keep a watch on us. Recommend

  • Adil

    I would say that history of Pak-Afghan relations should be observed not just in post-Soviet invasion or post 9/11 era but throughout the period of 1947-79 as well.We had the issue/dispute of Durand Line with Afghanistan even before our nation got into the quagmire of religious fundamentalism.Not to forget the slogans of Pashtunistan which came at the surface immediately after creation of Pakistan, and assassination of our country’s very first Prime Minister Liaquat Ali Khan which was carried out by an Afghan national.
    I do acknowledge that ISI has also been playing a very negative role but Afghan intelligence and their government always get a clean chit by blaming everything on Pakistan amidst presence of NATO forces all across the nation.
    Those Afghans who have lived in Pakistan or interacted with Pakistanis could probably have a better understanding of Pakistani society and people than those who just hate Pakistan without looking at incidents and history from a neutral standpoint. I have watched facebook pages and forums of Afghans and they do display a racist attitude towards Pakistanis and Punjabis in general. We have a history of bad relations with India too but Indians atleast read about Pakistan Movement and try to know our perspective, and later on show some admiration for Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah (e.g. Jaswant Singh); but such a gesture has never been observed on behalf of Afghans and many of them continue to call Pakistan an illegitimate and artifical state, and Jinnah a villain and a British agent. By Pakistan they often use the word Punjabi rule and I have seen their maps where Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and a number of times even Balochistan is shown as a part of Afghanistan.They continue to talk about their centuries old legacy,rule of Mahmud Ghaznawi etc…..and Pakistanis especially non-Pashtuns (Punjabis and Muhajirs/Urdu Speakings etc….)are inferior creatures or race infront of their stronger Aryan race.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com/ Anoop

    The answer is simple, actually: Those who are against the implementation of Democracy and do not agree to the concept of Human Rights are the enemies.

    I am sure many will point out that US has violated Human Rights. Sure. But, they have never done it at home.

    The Taliban/Al Qaeda is opposed to the implementation of the above, so they are the enemy. They not only want to implement Sharia in Afghanistan, but also in Pakistan. Ideally, they should have been Pakistan’s enemy too, but strangely, in some twisted way, Pakistanis don’t agree with this.

    Haqqani network is considered to have similar goals as that of the Taliban/Al Qaeda, so by extension they are bad for Afghanistan too.

    Pakistan is sheltering the enemy(Haqqanis), so the inferences are too obvious to state.

    That leaves out Karzai or his Govt. As long as the system is subject to change, you cannot call a Govt as an enemy of the state.

    If the phrase enemy of the state means being corrupt, using illegal ways to achieve their means, then most of the ruling class in Pakistan and other Countries are guilty of that. If that phrase means people who do irreparable harm and cause unending pain to the masses of a Country, then Karzai is not an enemy.

    History is a very good indicator of things to come. Afghanistan has always been a violent, volatile place. It will most probably continue to exhibit the same attributes.

    The territory that now comprises of Afghanistan, parts of Pakistan and parts of Iran has been the place where traditionally the violence used to flow into India. Thanks to Jinnah, that hole has been plugged and Pakistan acts as a buffer for India.

    Who ever the enemy is for Afghanistan, one thing is for sure- Jinnah and his Pakistan is surely not an enemy of India. Recommend

  • Hafeez

    A good write-up for those who know nothing about Afghanistan and the war there
    .Recommend

  • http://pakistani-edu.blogspot.com Usman Shahid

    True, it is really difficult to analyse the enemies of Afghanistan but at the same time, your words

    “that could have seen improvement in the last decade had it not been for war”

    sums up the real enemy “the war” and you are 100% correct at this pointRecommend

  • https://twitter.com/#!/zaeemj1 Lord

    What the.You can write a full article without pointing the culprit.:(Recommend

  • BlackJack

    The fact is that Pakistan believes that its border regions will be free of the Afghan Taliban after the US leave, opening up the option of an all-out attack on the clearly hostile Pakistani Taliban; it sees a return to the halcyon days of yore, with a friendly Govt in Kabul (who gives a damn about the actual Afghan people), violence-free Pak cities, autonomous border regions – and enough free time and resources to focus on India and Kashmir yet once again. For a country which is paranoid about giving credence to ethnic diversity and aspirations within its own framework, Pakistan cravenly tries to play the Pashtun card to bolster its devilry in Afghanistan. Consequently, it loses out on the opportunity to be a dominant player in the current decision making process, with the capability to dictate the terms under which a reconciliation can be effected – one which will give the US a face-saving exit (and ensure their gratitude – without their presence), obviate the reason for the Afghan Taliban’s existence, install a friendly, stable and dependent Govt in Afghanistan, and put an end to 30 years of misery of the Afghan people. The enemy is Pakistan – regardless of who asks the question (even Pakistan itself).Recommend

  • Asad

    If you want a properous Afghanistan Leave them alone,
    9/11 was a plan to invade Afghanistan, US killed thousands of thier own citizen, and yet they have strong relationship with Pakistan despite drone attacks, they r mere blaming each other so that no body could doubt on them and they could continue establishing a long network to curb russian expansion and use the resources of afghanistan. Recommend

  • http://www.facebook.com/007Zone Habibies

    i am a Pakistani Muslim… but reality is We Pakistanis are the real enemies of Afghanistan… Why? Coz we are supporting America & NATO against Afghanistan… and the 2nd reality is American & NATO is the enemy of both countries Afghanistan & Pakistan… so please stop support American & NATO, Coz Afghanistan is a Muslim country and they are our Brothers… Recommend

  • faraz

    Their real enemy is the fractured society and collapsed economy.Terrorism, extremism etc. are all manifestations Recommend

  • Ashish

    Now as the author has not concluded , it is obvious that the author is trying to get the ideas and finally will write a blog with the help of different ideas which has come as comments. Real journalism.Recommend

  • faraz

    @ Habibies

    Taliban represent rural pushtoons. And pushtoon make up 48 percent of Afghan population. Urban and moderate pushtoon hate Taliban. 52 percent Afghans consist of Tajik, Uzbek, Hazara, etc and they support US invasion. Before 911, Afghanistan was busy in ethnic civil war. Come out of the myths and tales of 90s era.Recommend

  • mr. righty rightist

    Pakistan is the enemy of Afghanistan.

    But Pakistan is its own worst enemy.

    So the enemy of an enemy is friend.

    So, Pakistan is Afghanistan’s friend.

    But, Pakistan is its own worst enemy.

    So the friend of an enemy is enemy.

    So, Pakistan is Afghanistan’s worse enemy.

    but…

    -Dwight Shrute.Recommend

  • EyeRoll

    @Indian commenters:
    Easy for you to give self righteous comment without really knowing the reality of the region and its history. Afghanistan, and infact Pashtun areas of Pakistan, DO NOT like invaders in any form or capacity, whether the mission is humanitarian or not. If millitary occupation was the solution for all the bad people in the world, there would be no dictators in the world, there would be no warlords running amok in africa, no genocide crime and suffering in any part of the world. Afghanistan is just ONE of the several nations in the midst of the strife, and indeed one has to question why despite 10plus years in the region, US has not managed to stabilise the country. If anything the recent reports of , murders, abuse, misdemeanours and arrogant behavours by US soldiers in Afghanistan only makes one think that these people are no better than the very force they are fighting against.
    Before you jump to blame Pakistan as usual for all that is ill with the world, you might want to read a personal account of an American soldier who has already been there and seen what there is to see. This is what you call an actual articulation of facts on the basis of reality, not mere speculations based on whimsical fantasies from the comfort of your armchair
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/25/why-i-refused-to-fight-afghanistan-occupation Recommend

  • Parvez

    The question asked is deliberately misleading. The question should be ‘ Why is Afghanistan in this predicament ? ‘ Simple answer is because of its location. Of course many complex answers are there as well. Recommend

  • abhi

    @author
    “that could have seen improvement in the last decade had it not been for war”

    As if the 1990 to 2000 was golden era, this was the worst time. Leave about the infrastructure, talibans actually destroyed what was left (Bamian Budha case in point.) So dreaming about good old taliban rule will not take afghanistan anywhere.

    I really fail to understand the point many are making about occupation, the only excuse US has is the violance done by talibans. If they leave the violance and participate in democratic process, US will not have any excuse and have to leave. Recommend

  • Javed

    @author:

    “that could have seen improvement in the last decade had it not been for war”

    do you mean to say Afghanistan was a developed or developing country under Taliban rule till 2001 and lost it’s economy because of war…hilarious.Recommend

  • An Observer

    Ask yourself this question and the answer may become clear:
    If one side could have it’s way completely, establish their order (US/NATO, Karzi, Pakistan, Taliban – in any of its forms), who’s regime would YOU prefer to live under? The rest are then, in one one way or another an enemy to how you think things should be.
    I know my choice.
    What is yours?Recommend

  • http://USA Sangaryar

    @mr. righty rightist
    Pakistan is the enemy of Afghanistan.

    But Pakistan is its own worst enemy.

    So the enemy of an enemy is friend.

    So, Pakistan is Afghanistan’s friend.

    But, Pakistan is its own worst enemy.

    So the friend of an enemy is enemy.

    So, Pakistan is Afghanistan’s worse enemy.

    but…

    -Dwight Shrute.

    This is funny as hell and very accurate. The master narrative in Afghanistan espouses extreme hatred and prejudice towards Pakistan for its interference in Afghanistan’s internal affairs and for backing the wrong horses or should I say donkeys. Every Afghan poet writes poems depicting Pakistan as the enemy and this narrative is ingrained in the Afghan DNA. Recommend

  • Mohammad Aziz Seyal

    if we study the history, even children will dictate and indicate the enemies of great Afghanistan!
    well…Aug 19, 1919, the day when Afghan tigers defeated the mental loaves of great brittan(today’s) England, since then, there was no other way for the losers and that’s why they turned to either disturb or keep busy Afghans busy in conflicts…brittany(England)has had a very strange plan, they brought Pakistan in being not only to distinguish subcontinent but also to bring a new sting in Afghan nation’s eyesRecommend

  • Mohammad Aziz Seyal

    and it’s quite clear that India and Pakistan(by name muslim country) have still been the colony of the great brittan! this colony has been commanded and guided for years in order to carry on their old bloody plans…secondly, all the neighboring countries are responsible for the destruction of Afghanistan. today, Afghanistan is a free market for all of them so how can they lose such a golden market for their products??? of course not!
    third,some Afghans themselves aren’t sincere to their people and nation.Recommend

  • http://Trencin Kala Khan

    Pakistani proxies are destabilizing Afghanistan to keep it backward and dependent on Pakistan as a client state. Pakistan is the only enemy of Afghanistan and obviously the writer of this article is in denial of her nation’s culpability in undermining the Afghan government and robbing its people of progress and development.

    The days of Pakistani meddling in Afghanistan’s affairs are over. I guess the Pakistanis have not received that memo yet. Pakistan does not want to see Afghanistan become a progressive and developed country and it will try anything to keep it destabilized and fractured by using the Pashtun card, which has outlived its utility because the Afghan Pashtuns are no longer fooled by this game. Recommend

  • http://- Abid P Khan

    @Adil:
    “and Pakistanis especially non-Pashtuns (Punjabis and Muhajirs/Urdu Speakings etc….)are inferior creatures or race infront of their stronger Aryan race.”
    .
    Khalid B Sayeed, who has written several books on Pakistan, mentions in Formative Years of Pakistan, an anecdote narrated by a colonial Deputy Commissioner(?). The DC used to visit the tribal area, along with his Panjabi assistant. On one of his visits he went alone. The tribal chief blurted out,”Where is that blacky today, who used to hang along with you?”

    Racism sits very deep. A sad fact though.Recommend

  • Adil

    Regarding Talibans, I always had mixed opinions about them since mainstream media will call them barbarians,but after listening to Dr. Zakir Naik and Sheikh Khalid Yasin about Taliban regime one might have questions popping up at the back of his mind. Parvez Musharraf’s theory of Good Talibans vs. Bad Talibans is not something that many would agree with.However Naik is considered a respected figure in the Muslim world and he once clearly said that those who have interacted with or worked under Taliban regime know that Western media spread wrong message about Talibans and them beating women etc…are fabricated videos. However,whenever I visit any Afghan restaurant I do watch pictures of Bamyan statues too so that means that a common Afghan hates Taliban related policies….so a little bit confusion does hover in my mind after listening to mainstream news,news about corruption of Karzai government and Zakir Naik’s lectures.Recommend

  • Adil

    @Sangaryar and Kala Khan:

    As I have mentioned in my very first post,one needs to look at the history of last 200 years in order to reach a proper conclusion. ISI did commit crimes but Afghans were not hugging Pakistanis till 1970s. And regarding Pashtun card,who played the cards earlier or who really played the cards? What about the slogans of Pashtunistan and Liaquat Ali Khan’s assassination? Why did Afghanistan object over Pakistan’s membership in UN? I don’t think there were any Talibans around that time. Were they? So based on that,any patriotic Pakistani would also feel concerned over whatever happens in Afghanistan as we also care about solidarity and integration of our country. Recommend

  • john williams

    Please, lead us, the Americans, out of Afghanistan. If the majority of the people want to be ruled by the Taliban, or whatever they elect. great. it is time for us Americans to stop being worlds police. End violence. everywhere please. I do not hate Islam nor Christians or Jews. We all have our beliefs and by whatever name you call your higher being, Alla, god, etc, whatever. to each there own. I do not hate, please do not hate.Recommend

  • Fahad Raza

    @john williams:
    Very reasonable n admirable comment. Recommend

  • Parvez

    @john williams: Sensible comment.
    Now try convincing your government on this. Recommend

  • yousaf

    @Hafeez :: It is not a good write-up FOR but BY those who know nothing about Afghanistan,or any other tribal set-up for that matter.Somalia,for an example.It was the same forces who in an attempt to super-impose their way of life,or sort of,on the Somalian people.But to their utter disbelief got a very stiff resistance by the locals of the land.Cultures do not change over-night.This struggle to change the socio-cultural life-style of Afghans is-the-real-enemy there Recommend

  • Fahad Raza

    @john williams:
    You guys can get out of this mess & looks like Only Ron Paul has the plan for it with your own prosperity.Recommend

  • yousaf

    @Abid P.Khan ::Author of this article has put the question that who is the real enemy in Afghanistan.This query though very difficult on the face of it,the answer to it is not that difficult as it looks if one goes through the Afghan history of the period starting from the quest of Ranjit Sing till the end of British Raj in Indian sub-continent.As all the invasions from Indian side comprised of an army which had most of the soldiers from Punjab the pushtuns of Afghanistan took them to be Kafirs because they belonged to Sikh and later to the British army,and all spoke either urdu or punjabi,pushtuns associated urdu/punjabi speaking people to non Muslims hence Kafirs.This fact developed the psyche of pushtuns that caused them not to accept even Pakistanis as their equals and they have always considered us as inferior to them.I have had personal experience to this fact.My entire family is settled in Punjab since very long and all speak either urdu or punjabi.I happen to speak pashto fluently because I till my graduation lived in Peshawar.Once in early 70s I went to Landi-Kotal with my uncle who was some high official of FC and was posted in LK cantonment.All his sub-ordinates were locals there.In the morning when he left for his office I was left alone at his residence with the sepoys who were tribal pathans,I was dumbstruck when one of the sepoys asked me,”how come you are a MUSLIM when your uncle is a HINDU”.When I asked them for the reason to such a ridiculous question the simply said”you speak pashto while your uncle speaks urdu”I am sure no one among the “high-ups” have ever tried to redress this mindset of the people in the north-west so far Recommend

  • ashok

    We do not know the ground realities in Afghanistan. Only an Afghan is in a position to respond the question correctly. Please go to the link below and hear from the Afghans themselves what they think and say:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/110110_afghanpoll.pdf

    Answer to the question mainly lies in the response to questions # 39 and 40 of the survey. Recommend

  • http://- Abid P Khan

    @yousaf:

    Behaviour of a folk as you pointed out, is shaped by the events they have gone through, thus their response.
    .
    Afghanistan is a landmass through which troops have marched through in all directions. At times the fought fierce battles but only to surrender later.
    .
    The invading forces of Alexander of Macedonia, in 330 BC found Afghans divided in tribes, who were no match at all. He married Princess Roxane of Bactria, from Balkh Province of Afghanistan.
    .
    Al-Biruni in the 11th century calls Afghanistan inhabited by many tribes. Ghauri who had captured Multan in 1175 could defeat the Pashtun as he found them divided in tribes, squabbling with each other and easily manipulated loyalties.
    .
    Ottoman Admiral Sidi Ali Reis (Seyit Ali Reis), appointed by Sultan Suleyman The Magnificent, on this post to take care of Eastern flank (traffic between Red Sea and the Persian Gulf). On his earliest mission, bad weather his flotilla to Surat. Between 1553-1556, he with his sailors trekked through dry land of Gujrat, Sind, Panjab, Zabulistan, Central Asia, Persia etc to get back to Turkey.

    On his way he came across a lot of very friendly and generous rulers and some very ferocious highwaymen. In his narration, you can get a very good glimpse of the Afghani society and its behaviour those days, which makes us understand their present.
    .
    Finally, he reached the court of Sultan Suleyman Kanuni (The Law Giver), in Constaniople.
    These adventures of Sidi Ali Reis have been penned down in Chaghtai Turkish in his travelogue called Mirat ul Memalik.

    Warring or at times precarious peace between the tribe has been pre-dominant situation faced by the Afghanis. Abdali in AD 1748 till AD 1767 too came down to Panjab to set things right, by killing and looting. People of South Asia were nothing but a bird of prey for him and others before him. Not an object of respect.
    .
    When Ranjit Sing lay Pashtun Fortress, Peshawar in 1819, under siege, the opinion of Pashtuns was already formed.

    The namby pamby attitude of the Paki rulers is very much responsible for not addressing the legality of Durand Line. The beliefs of Pashtuns have not changed much from the times of the Raj or your visit in 70s. Xenophobia and racism are a products of non-urban culture which feels threatened by the “other”. They never became a part of the main stream culture.
    Which may clarify the jaundiced view of people on both sides of Durand Line.

    .
    (Please refer to cinema and literature of the sub-continent way before 1947, about the not so charitable image of a Pathan).
    .
    link: Mirat ul Memalik, by Admiral Sidi Ali ReisRecommend

  • Sangaryar

    @Adil
    Afghanistan is an irridentist state and it will keep on playing the Pashtunistan card to pander to some people on both sides of the border and Pakistan will combat this position by employing its proxies.

    I personally think that Afghanistan needs to forget about KPK and deal with the fact that they will never be able to unite the Pashtuns under one flag. In my opinion the educated Pashtuns of Pakistan have become indoctrinated by the colonial lackeys of Pakistan and therefore their outlook and attitude is very much oriented towards the establishment.

    As a matter of fact, Pakistani Pashtuns don’t even speak Pashto properly, nor do they share the same culture with their Afghan brethren. The only thing we have in common is our ethnic roots and our religion. Afghans need to concentrate on fixing their country and give up lofty aspirations and Pakistan needs to stop assuming that Pashtuns in Afghanistan are going to be their stooges.

    Dr. Naik is a troll who knows nothing about Afghanistan or its people. Afghans are tenacious and fiercely guard their independence and they consider themselves to be pious Muslims and therefore don’t need some pseudo Muslims propagating an alien ideology in their country. Afghans never accepted the Taliban or their doctrine nor did they accept being ruled by semi literate and dim witted slaves. Recommend

  • yousaf

    @Abid P.Khan :: You are right.If we look at Afghanistan in historic perspective her people have gone through several ups and downs since times un-known as Af/land is situated at the cross-roads of both trading caravans and invaders/looters(who never let the locals rest for a while,causing them to develop a resilient psyche to enable them to survive).I in my comment was only taking-up the causes of Pak-Af relations of present-day which are based on mistrust.Most of Pakistan comprises of a civic set-up therefore she has to suffer at all fronts.Afghanistan on the other hand has a tribal system and skirmishes (minor or major) do not do her much harm,they are part of the nature of any tribal system Recommend

  • Pakistani Pashtun

    Mr. Khan, Recommend

  • Pakistani Pashtun

    I saw all this discussion about Pashtuns without having any real Pashtuns point of view included, so here goes:

    Pashtuns in Pakistan speak proper Pashto and are proud of being Pashtun, they inhabit not only KPK but also northern part of Baluchistan and couple of districts of Punjab i.e. their traditional heartland in Pakistan where they form second largest ethnic group. Pashtuns in Pakistan including even Pakistani Punjabi’s are sympathetic to the cause of Afghans i.e. Pashtuns in Afghanistan. They believe that any outside military force should be resisted may it be in Pakistan or Afghanistan.

    It’s a known fact that Pashtun makes up majority of Afghanistan’s population, being represented in almost all the provinces of that country. Let’s not forget that before advent of Taliban every ethnic group in that country was fighting each other for power, however, Pashtun have always ruled that country due to their clear majority. The western powers have installed a minority in that country to rule over the majority with is not going to go well with general population in any country religious or secular, we may be looking at potential Hutu Tutsi situation that was created by Belgium in Rwanda by another western power.

    Pashtuns in Pakistan makes up all spectrum of the society from very educated to labor class so let’s not generalize them. Recommend

  • http://- Abid P Khan

    @Pakistani Pashtun:

    If I am not misinterpreting, the main thrust of the arguments presented here has been very constructive. May I add, you have not added something of greater significance, that we already don’t know.

    It is of utmost importance to realise that the present chaos of governance is a result of our own doing. By blaming outside forces we are running away from our own responsibilities, and that is hardly desirable.

    It is bad luck that most of time the country has been (mis)ruled by people at the helm who had narrow minded, myopic and selfish motives. To prolong their own stay in the lead, they have seen to it that ordinary folk from every province, instead of amalgamating into a coherent nation, they have drifted apart.

    The situation is worsening every passing day. Unless the present set up is replaced by a sincere, devoted, a farsighted group nearer to grassroots, we may be forced to see more divisions and bloodletting.

    Like it or not, the ball is in our court. In real life you don’t get many chances. Recommend

  • Pakistani Pashtun

    @Abid P Khan:
    Well.. the way i see it.. It was musharraf who opened the gates of hell i.e. fighting a war in waziristan which was never there. And getting so scared of Americans that he had to give them each and everything that they asked for. Now i have to state the obvious that happend because of Musharaf’s policies i.e. Pakistanies fighting each other based on relegious, ethnic and social lines.

    Additionally, it will take a fool not to realize that the americans are fighting a lossing war in afghanistan which they will be leaving very soon. When americans leave afghanistan, we will see yet another civil war their, a fact written on the wall. Now when that starts we pakistanies have to be sure that we are on the winning side.

    Last thing you want is more indian influence in afghanistan which leads to unrest in pakistan, as is evidenced by situtation now adays. Recommend

  • malik

    In the movie ‘Jurassic Park’ (Part 1) when the dinosaurs go out of control, the people who were in charge of creating them and managing them, flee from the island and finally they are evacuated in a helicopter. The man who created the dinosaurs says wistfully, “Now they will all fight and kill each other and finally not a single one will be left.”

    The only difference between Afghanistan and Jurassic Park is that, the latter is an island and there is no danger of the dinosaurs coming out into the main land. No one cares who is the enemy of Afghanistan. But everyone knows that Afghanistan, the land of illiterate fanatics, will forever be the enemy to the progressive forces of the world.

    NATO is leaving Afghanistan, the modern-day Jurassic Park, in 2014. Before leaving, they should construct barbed electrified wire fence all around Afghanistan so that the inmates don’t get out. Then the world will be safe. Recommend