IPL without Pakistan: Who is the real loser?

Published: April 17, 2012

Out of the three T20 World Championships played so far, Pakistan has made it to the finals twice and lost in the semis once. PHOTO: REUTERS

Since its inception mid-way through the last decade, Twenty20 cricket has added a new dimension to the gentlemen’s sport. This relatively new brand of cricket not only marked a certain form of revival for the sport, it also managed to expand its fan base by exploring regions of the globe that had previously shunned it because of the length of its duration.

The inaugural T20 World Cup soon followed and brought the most significant twist in its otherwise steady growth. The crowning of India as the World T20 Champions marked wild celebrations back home and took Mahendra Singh Dhoni and many of his unknown men to instant stardom. The format that India previously ignored suddenly became its most viable investment opportunity.

It is with this background that the Indian Premier League (IPL) took off in 2008 and staged the most glamorous and star-studded brand of cricket ever seen. The excitement of watching the world’s finest hitters playing under fancy uniforms for millions of dollars suddenly changed the way cricketers and fans viewed the game.

The first edition of IPL proved to be a huge success with Rajasthan Royals beating all odds to clinch the title under the leadership of Shane Warne. Some of the finest performances came from players from across the border; Sohail Tanvir of Pakistan was named the tournament’s best bowler. This is where, however, it all got messy.

In the wake of the Mumbai attacks, tension between Pakistan and India mounted as a result of which Pakistani players were shamefully sidelined for the 2009 edition of the tournament. The same pattern followed in the inaugural Champions League where Pakistan’s domestic T20 Champions Sialkot Stallions were not included in the tournament.

As things stand today, the IPL is going through its fifth edition. The excitement is naturally not the same. Pakistan is still not a part of the show while players from all around the world participate in this annual cricket gala.

This of course begs the question – who really is the loser here?

Is it the Pakistani players, the fans or the IPL? The answer, it seems, can be easily derived from Pakistan’s heroics in T20 cricket over the last five years.

Pakistan has easily been one of the most successful teams in the T20 format. Out of the three World Championships played so far, Pakistan has made it to the finals twice and lost in the semis once. In 2009, Younis Khan led Pakistan to a famous victory over Sri Lanka at the Oval to be crowned as the World T20 Champions. Even as individual players, Pakistan has some of the most attractive cricketers in the T20 format. Here’s a quick look at some of them.

1. Shahid Afridi

No T20 side can be complete without the most explosive striker in the game’s modern history, Shahid Afridi. Boom Boom was made for this format and he soon showed his liking for it. Afridi was the man of the tournament in the 2007 World T20 Tournament and played a key role two years later in helping Pakistan lift the cup for the first time.

He is the biggest super star in Pakistan cricket and has also won countless admirers in Australia and England through his heroics in the Big Bash and Friends Provident T20 tournaments. IPL is clearly missing out on this huge crowd puller.

2. Imran Nazir

Nazir has taken to T20 cricket like a duck to water. He has been one of the most successful players from Pakistan in this format of the game. He has played some of the most breathtaking knocks in ICL, BPL and Pakistan’s Local T20 tournaments. If Afridi is brute force, then Nazir is all timing.

3. Saeed Ajmal

When it comes to bowling under pressure, there are few bowlers who can match the composure and artistry of Saeed Ajmal. His lethal combination of doosras, off breaks and quicker ones leave batsmen with little chance to attack him. He has been Pakistan’s most potent bowler under testing times – an ideal candidate for high pressure T20 cricket.

4. Umar Gul

After the two W’s, Umar Gul is next in line when it comes to lethal bowling. No bowler can match the pin point accuracy of his yorkers that are so crucial in T20 cricket. Who can forget his super spell in the 2009 T20 World Cup against New Zealand when he took five wickets and then followed that with an even greater display of bowling against South Africa in the semi finals. Gul is any T20 captain’s dream bowler.

5. Rana Navedul Hasan

Rana Naveed made his mark in T20 cricket pretty early, regularly playing in the Big Bash T20 tournament in Australia. Like Gul, Rana has the natural ability to bowl a mixture of accurate yorkers and slower deliveries that make slogging almost impossible against him. He has been a key contributor for the Sialkot Stallions in the domestic T20 tournaments as well.

6. Mohammad Hafeez

Over the last three years, Mohammad Hafeez has been the most improved all rounder in international cricket. Not only has he become a key strike bowler, but also a solid batsman who consistently produces results. Like many of his other colleagues, Hafeez has performed admirably in the T20 format putting in consistent performances for both Pakistan and his local side Faisalabad Wolves.

7. Abdur Razzaq

Few hit the cricket ball as hard and as long as Abdur Razzaq. The veteran all-rounder might be nearing the end of his career but his capabilities as a genuine all-rounder are still truly intact. He has been a regular feature at the Australian Big Bash and also plays for his county in T20 tournaments.

Just recently, he played a breathtaking knock in the English Twenty20 Championship and snatched the game for his side – a genuine match winner in this form of the game.

These are only a few of the countless outstanding T20 match winners that the world is missing out on due to the politically motivated IPL administration. A true disservice to the once gentleman’s sport.

The post originally appeared here.        

Read more by Jawad here or follow him on Twitter @Pakcriconline

Correction: An earlier version of this blog post incorrectly stated that Mohammad Hafeez represents the Sialkot Stallions. The error has now been rectified.

Jawad.Khan

Jawad Khan

A freelance writer, blogger and marketing consultant who makes a living by writing, helps other aspiring writers go big and spends his free time exploring the beauty of Pakistan. He blogs at www.WritingMyDestiny.com

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • T.Al.z

    Well, it would be a pleasure to watch Afridi do the Boom Boom at the IPL. Nobody is a loser here however, Pakistan still manages to earn the wins and respect, while IPL still earns the Millions, it’s probably the genuine cricket lovers who are the losers here, I am an Indian, and can assure you at least 70% of the cricket fans want the Pakistani players to play at the IPL. Ek din aayega! :)Recommend

  • abdullah

    you missed ahmad shahzad…..nice article thoughRecommend

  • mr. righty rightist

    “These are only a few of the countless outstanding T20 match winners that the world is missing out on due to the politically motivated IPL administration.”

    Funny how Pakistanis, even the most educated ones are slow on logic. These few are missing because of Hafees Saeed and ISI.Recommend

  • MM

    No doubt the players you mentioned are really talented and its a treat for every fan of cricket to watch them playing but still its Pakistan and Pakistani players who are at losing end. They are the one who arent getting money and experience . They are deprived of the chance to take part in a global cricketing event. They are the one who are somehow limited to the events organized by ICC only.
    India is organizing successful events of IPL every year .and the success of the tournament doesnt depend on our players . You talked about crowd puller players but their stadiums remain fully packed even without Pakistani players being included in the tournament . Recommend

  • Chacha

    There are lots of talented players in the world – in all countries. None of them come to Pakistan as security is not there

    Pakistani players cannot get security in India. You cannot expect a pakistani player to play in Mumbai or Pune – the team who has the players wil get attacked.

    Secondly if you think all of them will get a berth at IPL – think again. Only four or five will. Definitely not Shahid Afridi – who considers Indians to lack a large heart. Why did he have to say such things ?Recommend

  • BlackJack

    Dude – appreciate your patriotism, and it would be nice to have Pak players in the IPL, but no one in India is really losing much sleep over it. There are restrictions on the number of foreign players in a team and we are attracting a lot of talent from around the world; on the other hand, the Pak players do not get the benefit from playing in a highly lucrative format, bonding with other international players, and getting some additional experience under their belt during this season (as you may have noticed – most of the cricketing world comes to a standstill during the IPL) – so they are the net losers.Recommend

  • Haroon Rashid

    So why dont we play with the Israelis at home? Why dont we invite the Israelis to play tennis and football at home with our players?

    I mean we hold the rest of the world responsible for everything, as if they owe us something. We refuse to take responsibility for the likes of the LET and Mumbai attacks, and then wonder why everyone shuns us!

    This degree of self righteousness is nauseous…Recommend

  • Omar Ali

    Nice article Jawad. Though I would insist we should come up with our own version. Set BPL as a case study. The Bangladesh’s tour to Pakistan can open the gates for PBL if handled with wisdom and intelligence. We all wish to see our stars perform in exciting T20 cricket. To add that little glamour in PBL, maybe Meera can buy a team  – just a wild thought.Recommend

  • Shafiq

    @author: Presence of Pakistani players would create unnecessary security related issues. IPL so far has been stress free and security incident free. But the inclusion of Pakistani players may change that. Folks like BJP and Bal Thackrey will come to the airwaves once more and attention will have to be paid to that. Though there was an incident last year when one Pakistani player did play in IPL. I am forgetting the actual circumstances.

    There is also the the added concern that Afridi has a big mouth which spews out anti-India stuff. Why rile the fun loving folks in the IPL audience?

    The world is full of Cricket Talent. I do not think anybody is missing out by not having the Pakistanis play in IPL.

    Maybe some day when the IPL shine wears out, they may start bringing in Pakistani players into IPL to start some controversy and gather the attention and TRP ratings they need.Recommend

  • f m s

    yes of course pakistani players must b played in ipl.and govt of india should also assure the security of pak player.
    if they r in ipl game the tournament can b very excitedRecommend

  • Shafiq

    In fact more that players from Pakistan, the IPL folks may want to bring in players from Afghanistan – the talent there is beginning to blossom. It will be good to get a new audience for IPL in that country too. Recommend

  • T.Al.z

    @Omar Ali- LOL Good one. Very wild thought! hahaRecommend

  • Noman

    There are a about a dozen teams with a total of about 200 cricketers who are taking part. I think apart from the Pakistani audience of IPL, nobody else talks about the exclusion of the Pak players. It is taken for granted that the Pak players will not be there (either because the IPL owners will not take them, or then the PCB will not allow).

    And frankly not many non-Pakistani people miss there absence in IPL.Recommend

  • T.Al.z

    IPL is serious business, they don’t care about the Indo-Pak issue or whatsoever. The IPL admin is quite aware of the fact that including Pakistani players means at least 20-30% increase in the endorsements and finances, it is just us, who blame the government for every little things that happen. The government doesn’t want people accusing them for letting the neighbors play after what they have done to us (Mumbai 2008). I mean why do we have to mix up random issues and just complicate things for no bloody reason. Aren’t we watching American movies, look at what they have done to Iraq, Afghanistan or any other country that they tried to install democracy in.

    I don’t agree to the fact that no non-Pakistani wants to see the players in the game. People wold start throwing their money to see Saeed Ajmal or Shoaib Malik play for Mumbai or Delhi or any other IPL team. Wouldn’t it be exciting to see a Pakistani player shout and jump around for Mumbai Indians. I mean, how much of a ‘Mumbai’ does a Pakistani hear about, other than the 2008 Mumbai attacks. Wouldn’t it be cool to see Umar Gul lift the ‘INDIAN’ Premiere League trophy for say Pune Warriors. Gambhir jumps and hugs Afridi if they are on the same team, well that would be some scene to watch! Recommend

  • abdullah

    @T.Al.z: lol….u seem to be one of those “Aman ki Aasha” activists Recommend

  • PakMaster

    forget IPL, as pakistani myself i know ipl will only hurt pakistani cricket. look at india in test matches and look at us in test matches. ipl is fixed and if pakistani players play in the ipl, fixing in the national side will increase. the 3 players who got caught fixing should be banned from internation cricket for life and pakistan should wholely focus on test and odi. T20 although it maybe exciting it is not proper cricket and thats a fact. only indians and idiot pakistani’s care about ipl. its all about international cricket in countries like New Zealand, Austrailia, England and south africa and these countries are doing will in international cricket.Recommend

  • Jawad Khan

    @Shafiq: Agreed, to a certain extent. But what’s their excuse for the Champions League snubRecommend

  • Umar Khan

    CORRECTION – Hafeez represents the Faisalabad Wolves. Not the Stallions. Recommend

  • Mumbaikar

    There has to be a sign of contrition from your establishment about Pakistan’s role in the 2008 Mumbai attacks, and a concrete step like the extradition of Hafeez Saeed.

    Unless this happens, I cannot bear to see any Pakistani-origin player wear a cap symbolizing my city. You are not welcome here.

    The author says *”In the wake of the Mumbai attacks, tension between Pakistan and India mounted as a result of which Pakistani players were shamefully sidelined for the 2009 edition of the tournament.”.*

    What is shameful is the Mumbai attacks and Pakistani brazenness despite the overwhelming evidence that it was planned and executed from Pakistani soil with the army’s help. Shame on that.Recommend

  • T.Al.zt

    Dear Mumbaikar,

    I am a Muslim-Indian, should I wipe out Gujarat from my version of the Indian Map. Do you even have an Idea how many Muslims were killed? Forget how many Muslims were killed, do you know how they were killed? and if you don’t, please go and try to find out. Stop creating controversies and blaming people beyond the Government. Because if this how it is going to be, the first people who would stop relating themselves with India are the Sikhs, Khalistan would have been a country by now.

    I don’t intend to offend anyone here, just trying to defend a game here.Recommend

  • Critical

    In the wake of the Mumbai attacks, tension between Pakistan and India mounted as a result of which Pakistani players were shamefully sidelined for the 2009 edition of the tournament

    Now,when will your media stop lying…After Mumbai attack,India refused to tour Pakistan(Thank god,after what happened to Srilankans who replaced them)…In return,PCB refused to release players for the 2nd edition of IPL…
    IPL Owners are businessmen not politicians,they spend millions in buying a player from auction..So they look for players who are available during IPL window…So they decided to ignore them in the 3rd edition…

    This was more of a business reason than political one…
    If u watch closely,IPL owners are reluctant to bid for English and Australian players as well because of their international commitments…

    Yes,the Pakistan TV revenue does have a minor hit but not including Pakistan players arent changing the ticket sales…
    The real losers are the Pakistani players who do not get the chance to earn millions for just 2 months which is more than they could earn in a year of international cricket…
    Recommend

  • White Jack

    @BlackJack:

    Although there are restrictions on the number foreign player but there is no restriction for selection of Pakistani player. Why Indians are ironically different from rest of the world. Despite of highest standards of education in India (as i heard); why you guys fail to meet certain moral standards & always come up to differentiate Pakistan from rest of the world. When every other country has no objection in inviting Pakistani players then why India has problems. ICC never separated Pakistan in any tournament from rest of world then why India is trying to create this kind of non sense. On one hand India tries promote its neutral image in the world but can’t even convince its own ppl to act accordingly as Indian media portrays its image. Recommend

  • Nitin

    @T.Al.z:

    That Day would only when Pakistan officially Leave the Terrorism, otherwise keep reading these kind of articles. Recommend

  • pankaj

    !.Pakistani players involve in match fixing

    2.They are not disciplined enough

    3.Create a lot of controversy…not good for the game

    Phir kehte ho ki hinduyoin ki jahaniyat hi aisi hai !!

    pakistanis are not welcome…period.Recommend

  • Ak

    Yep, would have loved to see Pak cricketers in action in IPL.Recommend

  • Sunil

    @T.Al.zt
    I knew who you were as soon as I read that post of yours. Do you even know what started the fire in Gujrat? As for Khalistan, it was an artificial movement and it met its logical end. As for the treatment of minorities, do you even know the life that minorities lead in Pakistan? You are lucky we non-Muslims are different than Muslims.Recommend

  • Paras Vikmani

    I would really want to see Pakistani players in IPL. Recommend

  • http://n/a nabeel

    well

    i don’t know who r the losers but i do know that it is good for pakistan, not to playing in IPL be cause no one can judge our crickters when it comes to T20 WC. playing more against international players will make it easy to judge them or read them. As pakistanis are not in IPL it will make difficult for others to judge them or having some sort of strategy against them. Most of all when more money involve in the game will ruin your game. as we saw in past pakistan is the most dominant team in t20 wc and every one accept that no matter where is pakistan in ranking. not playing in IPL will boost pakistani players in thier performance. if we talk about ranking we can observe since the ICC has indian President they are trying to keep pakistan out from the international arena like we won T20 WC in 2009 and the very next year WC scheduled on the other hand india won it in 2007 and remain champion for two years and england also will enjoy it for two years. so it is good for pakistan not to participate in IPL and show the world in T20WC that what we are with their full courage and patriotism.Recommend

  • Mumbaikar

    @T.Al.zt

    What has Gujarat got to do with Mumbai? Mixing issues and muddying the waters is a poor statement on you.

    26/11 was a terrorist attack sponsored by the Pakistani establishment. If you are even 1% Indian, like you claim, you know what rage this brought to ordinary Mumbaikars like me. Shame on you for defending these scum.

    No Pakistani is welcome in Mumbai until we see contrition from their establishment and we see the perpetrators punished. We can live without Pakistani players, actors, business etc. There is a world of talent out there to tap.

    India will move ahead in all aspects without you, with you and inspite of you. You can choose to join us, but first, you must make amends.Recommend

  • Mumbaikar

    @T.Al.zt

    Claiming to be Indian does not make it so. If you are even 1% Indian, you would not have tried to mix issues between a domestic issue like the 02 riots and the monstrous 26/11 incident.

    India does not need Pakistani actors, players, business etc. We will forge ahead without them and even inspite of them.

    If Pakistan wishes to be part of the Indian growth story, they have to first make amends. There is no alternative.Recommend

  • ukmuslim

    @T.Al.zt
    dude, here we are not talking about religion and its related problems within india. babri, godhra are totally india’s internal issues and nothing to do about other countries, say pakistan. india will deal its own problem, pakistan doesn’t need to advice us. what true indians are asking that STOP terrorism originating from your country. it is affecting india and indians. if you have radical groups operating within your country and they are affecting you, india doesn’t have problem and will not say a single word. because its your own internal problem. once it crosses border and start terrorising me, obvously i will held YOU responsible.

    as far as pakistan and its cricket is concern, i am happy to send you to pakistan to play cricket for rest of your life.Recommend

  • vickram

    I hear during the IPL season, Pak fans keep consuming lots of antacids and their sales go up to all time high during IPL….

    So, the real gainer is the pharma company that makes Gelusil (antacid) medicine !Recommend

  • Baba Ji

    IPL without Pakistan: Who is the real loser ?
    Well …. Pakistani money exchangers I guess … No IPL, No $, No money to exchange, No business !!!!Recommend

  • Rizvi

    Good article. Yes Pakistan has most capable palyer for twenty20 format. You missed Ahmad Shahzad, he is a brilliant youngster as he proved in BPL. He is an ideal opener with Imran Nazir for Pakistan A team, Hafeez can bat on No.2. In the bowling section, there are many talented bowlers but you missed Muhammad Sami, a very good bowler with decent pace, he can be improve by proper coaching.
    India is dragging sports into politics. India’s biased approach shows that how narrow minded they are. In India, poverty is on its peak, peopel are dying of hunger, forced to reside on footpaths, 47 per cent people without toilets, only 3 per cent have access to the internent, rampant corruption, rising militancy in Assam, where Moaists are killing hundereds of security forces and civilians on daily basis. Kashmir is boiling, 8 lakh troops are their to crush Kashmiris, they are raping their women and killing innocent children. Muslims are struggling for government jobs. It is pertinent to mention here, how they divide the Muslim constituencies in Muslim-majority areas during elections to stop them to come into power. Now it was slap on the face of BCCI, when Bangladesh annouced to tour Pakistan. Recommend

  • Pollack

    Hafeez Saeed decided that Pakistani players should not be a part of IPL, not the IPL management. So do something about your “Hero” Hafiz Saeed and I am sure IPL will change their mind. It’s sad that India has to do this sort of thing to force Pakistan even to do the normal and right act of arresting murderers and terrorist leaders. By the way, I have not even started about “bhai” Dawood yet. One Pakistani player even thought that Dagwood is “respectable” enough to give his son in marriage to dawoods daughter. Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com Anoop

    Aamir Khan not acting in Hollywood is a big loss to the public. We know how talented he is, so obviously it must be a loss to Hollywood, one would think.

    The above statement would have been true if Hollywood had been in doldrums and was not producing quality entertainment. But, it is doing all that. The people who watch Hollywood movies, Americans, to whom the movies are actually meant for, dont give a damn if Aamir Khan acts in them. To them, the entertainment matters..

    Now replace Aamir with Pakistani players, Hollywood with IPL and Indians with Americans.

    Pakistanis players are good, but not extraordinary. There are better allrounders than Shahid Afridi in IPL, there are better batsmen than any Pakistani player in IPL, there are better bowlers than Umar Gul in IPL.

    In short, there is nothing missing from the IPL to miss anyone. Its an Indian league, with Indian money and with everything great about India. Nobody are the losers here, except ofcourse the Pakistani players who are losing a LOT of money by not playing in it and to a certain extent the Pakistanis themselves who don’t get to enjoy the matches due to their hatred of the colourful League.Recommend

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/PakistaniHindus?feature=guide Pakistani Hindu

    @Haroon Rashid:
    Respects! =)Recommend

  • Senman

    IPL is better off without Pakistan, no controversy, no match fixing accusations, no extra spending on security. People need to realize unless terrorism issues sorted out Pakistan people are the ones to pay for the ignorance of the Pak government.Recommend

  • maestro

    @Mumbaikar:
    Yes just like there has to be contrition for the actions of your serving army colonel who was behind the samjhauta express terrorist act and admitted himself it in court. Send him over to Pak and then we will send you Hafiz Saeed. Your IPL is a betting league nothing else. Pakistan have been T20 champs and now Asian champs, whitewashed England after just making 99 in the first inninigs and still destroyed them – first time in cricket history since 1907! And lets not even talk about your involvement in terrorist acts in Balochistan let alone Mumbai. The world has changed my friend – we all have the info we need through the internet. The Pakistan investigation committee that recently visited India was not even allowed access to Kasab to document solid proof of what happened 26/11. What a farce. LOLS. Your IPL is a joke without Pak players. Its just russian cheer leaders, Preity Zintas and Shahrukh Khans (from Peshawar btw) and pre-planned chakas and chokas to entertain them, the crowds and the sponsors. Cheers. Enjoy your lame IPL. You know you cant face us on Pak fields! Just after getting killed by Australia! lols What a joke man! Recommend

  • Ali

    Sour grapes Recommend

  • Critical

    @T.Al.zt:
    “I am a Muslim-Indian”

    This single statement shows that you’re not an indian but posing as an Indian,as no Indian would put his religion before his nation as part of his identitiy…and the rest of your comment just underlines it….Recommend

  • syed

    @ the author
    Well there may be many incidents why we never need pakistan.First what can pakistan offer to india is trouble? nothing else.

    1) When mohammed asif was tested positive for drugs in ipl every one in pakistan said it was an conspiracy.
    2) when spot fixing scandal broke out the pakistan ambassador to uk said it was a conspiracy of RAW.
    3) Afridi stupidity that indians have small hearts.

    To be honest it is always wise to stay ‘FAAAAR’ out of trouble.
    If pakistan needs cricket they can start thier own version of IPL,BPL,Big bash.Frankly no one misses a pakistan player.Recommend

  • syed

    @maestro:

    where does obama was hiding.well it’s simple as that what can pakistan offer to world?

    It is wise to stay ‘Faaaaaar’ away from trouble.Recommend

  • http://google Dr Priyanka

    I am from Hyderabad and Shahid Afridi played for our IPL team [DC]. I miss him, and he will be fine in Hyderabad, but as a Marathi I know people of Mumbai will never allow the pakistani players post 26/11 in the city. Sad but true!Recommend

  • Mumbaikar

    @Maestro

    Case of sour grapes, much?

    If the IPL was so bad, why is there an article here talking about how Pakistani players must be part of it? You make me laugh.

    The joke is that Pakistan is now so marginalized, you guys are celebrating when Bangladesh comes to tour. There’s another article on this site which talks about the discrimination a Pakistani passport brings when you travel abroad. No other country wants to visit or touch you with a bargepole. Serves you right. Schadenfreude is sweet.Recommend

  • DM

    @maestro
    You are a perfect example of sour grape. Just think ..think again.. got it !!!Recommend

  • Azharuddin Masood

    @Sunil:
    Recently there was some communal riot in Hyderabad and it all started when a priest of a temple saw pieces of beef inside the temple and this country India is so communally sensitive that a piece of beef can create large riots. But the agony of this riot is that the pieces of beef which were thrown in the temple were not Muslims but Hindus and 5 Hindus have been arrested in this case and they have admitted that they were the culprit. Till not it has not been proved who instigated the riots in Godrah Gujrat and it seems like Hindus only burned the train to instigate riots and they succeeded in Gujrat and failed in Hyderabad.Recommend

  • DM

    @author
    Pakistani players are real losers here. Period.Recommend

  • Naresh

    .
    Folks : The I P L is an INDIAN and not International League. As such it is up to the IPL Management as to who they want or not.
    .
    Knowing of the Pakistani Hatred of Indians in General and Non-Muslims in Particular is it not better that I P L keeps the Pakistani Players away from its “Show”!
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    I am confident that the Pakistani Cricket Board can Organize a “PAKISTAN PLAYERS LEAGUE” and am sure that the International Cricketers will be dying – no pun intended – to Play Cricket in Pakistan.
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    One really cannot understand why Pakistanis insist that the I P L must include Pakistani Cricketers when the Pakistani Cricketers are not Welcome to join the I P L.
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    An analogy : If Pakistanis or their Cricketers feel they have such a “Great” Right to play in India then Pakistanis could very well demand to get Education, Jobs, Lands etc. in India.
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    For crying our loud Pakistan is an Enemy of India and I am sure Pakistanis feel the same is true of India in respect with Pakistan.
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    As such let us all wait for nature to take its course and in due time – Fiver or Ten or More Years or Whatever – one might see Pakistani Cricketers included in I P L.
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    It would surely help if Pakistan stopped all the terrorism perpetrated by Pakistani based Terrorists – whether performed by STATE or NON-STATE ACTORS – as well as handed over the Terrorists i.e. all of them who are present in Pakistan and have carried out Terrorist Attacks in India.
    .
    Seemingly “Chance would be a Fine Thing”!
    CheersRecommend

  • Zeta

    @Mumbaikar:
    You talk about hard evidence against Pakistan. Yet Uncle Sam is offering $10 million bucks for evidence against Hafiz Saeed. How about you provide you “hard” evidence to them and avail the prize. How close minded paranoid and insecure you indians are.

    While you openly challenge all your government actions, you blindly believe them when it comes to Pakistan.

    Salute to Hemant Karkare for he is true indian patriot gunned down by Saffron terrorists.

    On topic note, We are better off without IPL. this feeling is shared by majority of our nation’s people.

    Ipl is only popular because of money involved, dancing women, party life but its absolutely pathetic where it concerns most. CRICKET. Recommend

  • Gupt Rogue

    @White Jack: Because we dont reward terrorism.Recommend

  • adam khan

    i dont understand y pakistani people wnt 2play india plz plz have sum pride in u we dnt need india who r involved in match fixing them selves yet on surface its pak players who got done 4match fixing they fixed the world cup n t20wentyRecommend

  • somebody1

    Another article from pakistanis to salvage their false pride, in reality as far as IPL is concerned pakistani players are equivalent to canadian players, nobody cares if they are in IPL or not and no one in the world is losing sleep over it.Recommend

  • Pollack

    @T.Al.zt:
    “I am a Muslim-Indian”

    :-). No. You are not. You maybe Muslim but not Muslim-Indian. Recommend

  • Pollack

    Pakistan should have its own Islamic cricket league and keep us “small minded” Hindus out of it. We won’t complain or whine about it like the author and some posters here are doing. Best of luck.Recommend

  • Indian

    IPL without Pakistan: Who is the real loser?
    Pakistani criceketers who are loosing big bucks….Recommend

  • Rahul

    strange, just some time after reading the article, i came across this video on you tube.
    is this not SHAMEFUL to say the least..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iFiWmKYisw

    i don’t know if it would be a good idea to have Pakistani players in IPL, but i bet you anything..this guy, sohail tanvir (and others who share thoughts like him), wont be allowed to play.

    i wonder what the ancestors of the host and sohail tanvir were, surely NOT arabs, they were hindus. so, in a way..they talking bad on the blood which flows in their veins.
    this is the reason for the downfall of Pakistan, that the people are not ready to look at the past they had, and like this they are destroying their roots.

    islam is great in itself, no one asks you to convert in hinduism, but at least, keep a check on the tongue.

    (: disheartening to see that video.
    shame on you mr. tanvir. Recommend

  • T.Al.zt

    First of all, I don’t need a certificate from anyone to call myself an Indian, secondly, yes, my religion comes before anything in the world. Go ask any Muslim, from Iran, Iraq or Pakistan, if he says his country comes first and then the religion, then question his faith in the religion. However, there’s a common belief in this world and that any crime by a Muslim is considered terrorising and the accused is called a terrorist, my dear friend any act that causes terror is a terrorist act, I guess Gujarat was as terrorising as the Mumbai attacks. Stop the Shiv Sainik belief of India for Hindus and start accepting the fact that a Muslim life lost is as disturbing as any other loss of life. If you read my first comments, you will notice that it wasn’t me who started mixing issues, it was you Mumbaikar. What I was saying is that a sport shouldn’t be affected by personal issues between the Government.

    Comments that say we don’t need Pakistani artists in India are just hypocrites, one moment they would be posting such comments, and the next thing you know, they would be listening to Pehli Nazar mein (The song). Stop spreading hatred, it is because of people like you that all our neighbors hate us, stop giving me the stupid Media crap of how Gujarat riots were instigated by Muslims. Jessica Lal’s case which involved a mere MP took years to get justice and you would now tell me that our Government is clean and has no flaws. Only because this is a Pakistani website everyone’s trying to defend India, go to other websites and see the hatred every second Indian has for its Government, abusing Rahul Gandhi, Mayawati, Mulayam Singh, stop the bloody hypocrisy and stand up to whatever you say on any platform, it shouldn’t matter if it’s in front of a Pakistani or any other national for that fact.

    If holding my religion before my country excludes me from the group of patriotic Indians, I would proudly exclude myself from that group.

    Also, I have realized there’s no point posting your views in front of the citizens of the greatest democracy, as there’s no room for toleration and the moment they find anything against their thoughts, they start accusing. I rest my case!Recommend

  • Reddy

    @T.Al.zt: we know which country you are from,so it’s better for you to write as less as possible which would reduce the probability of you getting caught pants down.

    coming to the article, your players have a tendency to act like doctors, PR specialists or sometimes politicians rather than being the player he supposed to be and.we are not losing any sleep over them, except for saeed azmal in above mentined list, i don’t think any other player would fit the bill. Recommend

  • T.Al.zt

    @Pollock- Thanks :D but I don’t really need your confirmation :)
    @Reddy- LOL I like the way you write, thanks for the advice. I’ll try my best to hide my identity next time. Damn it, now everyone knows I am a Pakistani, no sorry Muslimistaani!

    Reddy Sir, heard of rationality, ever?Recommend

  • T.Al.zt

    @Critical:

    “This single statement shows that you’re not an indian but posing as an Indian,as no Indian would put his religion before his nation as part of his identitiy…and the rest of your comment just underlines it….”

    When you say this, do you talk for the 1.22 billion of Indians, or just your personal opinion? Please give me the character instructions, on how to be an Indian, I would try and follow that in future to maintain my identity of an Indian.

    Please do not forget, that Indian is a Democratic country, and statements like these (where you accuse people for having an opinion) would make you look stupid!

    I don’t consider my country above my religion, fine, my opinion, live with it! If you can’t, that is completely fine with me, I don’t care what you or any other individual here thinks about me, your opinion, you have a right to it. Don’t decide for me, I’d be grateful to you!Recommend

  • Salman Sheikh

    IPL is waste of time.. same kinds of matches again and again. Recommend

  • Indi-Pop

    India may or may not allow Pakistani players to feature in furture IPL’s. But to be very honest I was happy after 2008 when Pakistani players were not allowed to feature in this global event. It showed our muscle power. India might not be like America that they can fly their plane in the heartland of Pakistan and pick up Hafeez Saeed or Dawood Ibrahim. But through our soft power we can show them their place once in a while. If Pakistan government is helpless in dealing with camps in their region and India doesn’t want to do aggression so as not to impede its growth story. But not allowing only Pakistani players is a form of humiliation. Big deal, I feel humiliated too when terrorists blow up my citizens on streets on India and we stand helpless watching certain pockets in celebratory mode across the border. Stopping Pakistanis from playing in IPL is not like a human rights violation please. These are just small steps to offend and honestly i don’t mind if they do. They are just serving their purpose.Recommend

  • http://n/a nabeel

    Your comments shows how Intolerance you indians are. @DM: Recommend

  • Nitin Sati

    Self-marketing.. or sour grapes!Recommend

  • Nitin Sati

    IPL without Pakistan: Who is the real loser?

    BETTING SYNDICATE!!! ………..hahahahahaRecommend

  • Indian

    @ukmuslim:
    very well said… Recommend

  • Reddy

    @T.Al.zt: oh,you are brewing and brimming with rationality here “stop giving me the stupid Media crap of how Gujarat riots were instigated by Muslims.” so those people who set the fire to S2 coach are merely testing the subsidized petrol by the indian govt,
    “If holding my religion before my country excludes me from the group of patriotic Indians, I would proudly exclude myself from that group.” to exclude from the group you should be in the group to start with,as your fellow countrymen claim that your ancestors are from arab, so we are not stupid enough to expect the loyalty from the invaders.and you are wrong india may not be land for Hindus,it’s definitely land of hindus,vedas and the world’s oldest civilization. Recommend

  • Waqas

    @Mumbaikar: Are you serious you donot need any pakisani. Is your film industry can survice with Rahat Fateh Ali Khan, Atif Aslam and now Ali Zafar. Have you forget Late Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. Come on man be realistic. Whenever any pakistani star visit india your public gone mad and you are claiming that we donot need any PakistaniRecommend

  • BlackJack

    @Pollack:
    Dude – my 2 cents, I think he is an Indian (you can tell from the syntax and references – it is difficult to fake, that is how our friend antanu g kept getting caught :); and it is a fact that a number of (Indian) muslims do feel that their religion is more important than their country, especially after they spend some in the Middle East. I don’t agree with him, but he is entitled to his point-of-view.Recommend

  • Waqas

    @Mumbaikar: And also we are here to talk about circket not other issues donot mix politics, terrorarism with cricket. Look at your name Mumbaikar even your Tandulkar once said that iam an indian first then mumbian. You name shows your mantality.Recommend

  • ukmuslim

    @Indian : cheers
    i was indian by birth and now uk citizen. in india, we were taught to put our nation first. have you noticed my id. its UK muslim = ukmuslimRecommend

  • DM

    @Waqas
    ” Is your film industry can survice with Rahat Fateh Ali Khan, Atif Aslam and now Ali Zafar ?”
    Ha ha ha..I can just pity your ignorance. And the answer is ABSOLUTELY YES.Recommend

  • http://India vasan

    Pak players and pak people are the losers, Neither the IPL itself nor Indians care about Pak participation in IPL. Infact they are the wiinners. They could give more opportunity for local talents which could have gone to Pak players.
    Dont whinge. attack us on our back like cowards and then ask for money spinning opportunities. How hypocritical Recommend

  • WhiteJack

    @Gupt Rogue:

    Mistakenly you put your comment in wrong blog. Wakeup due ;-)Recommend

  • T.Al.zt

    @Reddy:
    Good for you Reddy! I do not wish to argue with someone like you. :)Recommend

  • T.Al.zt

    @Reddy:
    Also, this is your mentality and you expect Muslims to be proud of the country. I am proud of being an Indian and I do not accept any negative comment against my country, I have represented my country in the UK (For my friend UKmuslim, please take a note if you have been to Umang festival or Glasgow’s Diwali in the square or Edinburgh’s Dushehra fest) and if you could pass me your email address I can send you online links and prove a lot of things to you, you wouldn’t have even thought about your country at the places and moments where I have spoken about and promoted my country, but even today, people like you consider Muslims as Arabs and invaders, which is why a large number of Muslims in India don’t support the country. I love India, I can go to any extremes to prove my love for my country, provided its not in front of someone like you, you don’t make sense and with all due respect I would like to end my argument here. Recommend

  • Indi-Pop

    @T.Al.zt: You need not prove your patriotism to anyone. Please don’t be so sensitive about it. There are loafers like Reddy everywhere and most patriotic thing they have ever done is spew their venom on internet sites.On the other hand please don’t mix politics with sports. What you said about our leader’s is also surprising and yes we do criticize leaders like Mayawati etc but doesn’t make us less patriotic. Which country of the world doesn’t do it? Let us reserve our rights of not discussing our country’s internal issues on a foreign website. Peace.Recommend

  • Anonymous

    we miss imran nazir and razzaqRecommend

  • murali

    @T.Al.z:
    Pakistan still manages to earn the wins and respect!!!
    r u on drugs??Recommend

  • Pollack#1.1

    @Pollack:
    Hafeez Saeed decided that Pakistani players should not be a part of IPL, not the IPL management. So do something about your “Hero” Hafiz Saeed and I am sure IPL will change their mind. It’s sad that India has to do this sort of thing to force Pakistan even to do the normal and right act of arresting murderers and terrorist leaders. By the way, I have not even started about “bhai” Dawood yet. One Pakistani player even thought that Dagwood is “respectable” enough to give his son in marriage to dawoods daughter.

    By reading your comment it seems that you know HS more than your RAW colleagues. It seems that HS listens to RAW more than anyone else. I must admire your ability to find relationships whether it is dawood’s daughter marriage or between HS & cricket. I know you could add more because there is no limit for imagining something & relating to something else which is completely different from former. Just believe in urself & keep creating stories. Recommend

  • http://mezaajedeen.blogspot.com Deen Sheikh

    web desk sub editors please do smethng about these trashy xenophobic comments here especially thr antinpakistan comments which are reflecting so muchnhatred and bigotry especially mumbaikers comments.Recommend

  • Reddy

    @T.Al.zt:”people like you consider Muslims as Arabs and invaders, which is why a large number of Muslims in India don’t support the country. ”
    don’t put your words into my mouth ,that is not my version,it’s your fellow Muslims POV, we believe Muslims of subcontinent are poor Hindus who embraced Islam solely to avoid extra tax,as i said before indians don’t need muslims who ask for quota system on Thursday and claim themselves Arabs and call us infidels in our own homeland the very next day. Recommend

  • Cherish

    IPL is India’s domestic league. Period. The Indian people will decide whether Pakistanis should be a part of India’s domestic cricketing arrangement. Indians are not coaxing Pakistanis to open up their Faysal Bank tournament to Indian players.We expect the same from you guys.Recommend

  • arjun

    @maestro:
    SRK born in India. Enough of nonsense. Just get your brain cleaned of religious nonsense. India does not Pakistan players on its soil for entertainment. Just get it out of your mind that India needs Pakistan players. We have billion population to take care of. Who has asked you to see IPL? Has India payed you? You hate India but you want to play in India. Some Pakistanis need to get this confusion out of your mind…all that you have is best and rest of the world is missing you…silly !!World does not think of you that way. First set your country in order and keep religion out of your minds and concentrate of treating human beings as human beings not muslims.Recommend

  • arjun

    @T.Al.zt: should you be reminded how many nonmuslims were killed and converted in Pakistan dear buddy. Lets not even go into peaceful deeds of islam world wide. Thats keeps everyones sanity in place.Recommend

  • arjun

    @Zeta:
    ave you heard of ostrich with its head in sand. or Educated insanity? I can see you doing it. Terrorism of any kind is not acceptable. And need I remind what your country is famous for… or you can comment as you like…and pray the world will keep quiet.Recommend

  • arjun

    @T.Al.zt: you are not an indian and yes you do not have a country…you already mentioned that very loudly and now then next thing you need to do is say which comes first ..religion or natonality and then ask which nation will accept you….practicality not insanity brother. just be practical. An india will never say what you said. Just do not fool yourself or others that U have a nation.Recommend

  • Ayesha Khan

    @T.Al.zt:

    You say yuo are a Muslim Indian. The thing is I am an Indian Muslim and I never met anyone who described themselves as Muslim Indian. They always say Indian first. It is only in Pakistan that you say you are Muslim first. Please do not pretend.Recommend

  • Ayesha Khan

    @Waqas: “Mumbaikar: Are you serious you donot need any pakisani. Is your film industry can survice with Rahat Fateh Ali Khan, Atif Aslam and now Ali Zafar. Have you forget Late Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. Come on man be realistic. Whenever any pakistani star visit india your public gone mad and you are claiming that we donot need any Pakistani”

    Yes Rahat Fateh Ali Khan and Atif Aslam are popular in India. We like them but do not NEED them. There is a big difference there. As for Ali Zafar, he is talented. I hope he becomes successful. But so far he has not given a single solo hit.

    Appreciating some Pakistani artists does not mean we ae dependent on them. RFAK on the other hand is dependent on India for 90% of his ncome.Recommend

  • Papu Polluck

    @Pollack:
    Hafeez Saeed decided that Pakistani players should not be a part of IPL, not the IPL management. So do something about your “Hero” Hafiz Saeed and I am sure IPL will change their mind. It’s sad that India has to do this sort of thing to force Pakistan even to do the normal and right act of arresting murderers and terrorist leaders. By the way, I have not even started about “bhai” Dawood yet. One Pakistani player even thought that Dagwood is “respectable” enough to give his son in marriage to dawoods daughter.

    By reading your comment it seems that you know HS more than your RAW colleagues. It seems that HS listens to RAW more than anyone else. I must admire your ability to find relationships whether it is dawood’s daughter marriage or between HS & cricket. I know you could add more because there is no limit for imagining something & relating to something else which is completely different from former. LACK word doesn’t only appear in your screen name but also in your understandings.Recommend

  • jimmy

    @maestro:
    Killed in Australia lol.. i agree we got… but when pak toured Aus in 2010 to play 5 odis , 3 tests and 2 t20s … didnt they get whitewashed as well !!! we got whitewashed only in the test series..but pak couldnt win a single game !! we dnt care if yr players play or not in IPL ..our league is still a big success..let me remind u I heard yr chairman is organizing a pak premier league in OCT.. it might me a hit only in pak , but can never challenge he t20 leagues of ind, aus Eng and SA..barring few playes… no one will visit pak.. ..lol u hate us a lot yet yr multiplexes and tv channels cannot live without showing holywood, bollywood , western and indian channels !!! and after what afridi said abt ind and hindus after the semifinals in WC 2011, why shoud we allow such players, only to be back stabbed in the back !!face the facts u will always rely on us for entertainment !!Recommend

  • Foxawan

    @Haroon Rashid:

    That is called a slap on the face. In fact you used both hands at one time. Awesome reply. I wish I could paste it all over the Pakistan media. It is such a shame. Such two faced people we are.Recommend

  • shuja

    boo-hoo,get over it India does not want Pakistani players in ipl big deal. the players should just focus on their form instead of crying. Recommend

  • SHY

    Our players have been playing English County cricket since the 90′s. They also got good contracts in Australian and Bangladesh domestic tournaments. Afridi was the highest paid cricketer in BPL. Indian premier league is the biggest of them all but if they want to keep our players away then may be its good for their satisfaction.Recommend

  • Cynical

    I agree with @DM who says, “Pakistani players are the real losers here.”

    Let me explain.There is a cap on the amount of money a team can spend to buy players. In the absence of the Pakistani players (5 to 6 that I think will be on high demand) teams will select from the available rest from where ever they are.And once the tournament starts the fans sucks into the momentum forgeting those who are missing.
    At the end likes of Azhar Mahmood (a Pakistani mind you) gains at the cost of Saeed Azmal,Umar Gul,Afridi etc.

    @all those India bashers

    IPL teams are private enterprises free to choose their team, BCCI only monitors certain financial,legal,fixtures and playing conditions.Recommend

  • SHY

    @cynical People like you think its all about money and nothing else. Pakistani players may be loosing big money but its Indians who are loosing their respect by involving politics into sports. Its good that Paksitanis and rest of the world can see the real intentions of India which are to dent the image of Pakistani in every way. Bringing political issues in sports is the lowest depth of misery. Recommend

  • abhi

    thank God that IPL is saved from players like Shahid Afridi.
    thanks but no thanks!Recommend

  • steave

    shame for the whole india …..80%indians have no access to toilets but they are wasting their money on IPL….shame shameRecommend

  • Cynical

    @steave

    “shame for the whole india …..80%indians have no access to toilets but they are wasting their money on IPL….shame shame”

    Let them waste more money on this IPL tamasha.Soon they will have no money to provide toilet for even the 20% who have it now. And India would be a ’0% toilet country’.
    Meanwhile by not wasting money on such frivolous ventures like IPL we will save enough money to make Pakistan a ’100% toilet country’.A clear winner all the way.Recommend