Here’s the evidence on Hafiz Saeed

Published: April 11, 2012

Jud runs schools and hospitals in Pakistan, they have helped flood and earthquake victims and ask for nothing in return except prayers. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

The US has been generous enough to announce a hefty $10 million bounty for information leading to Hafiz Saeed’s conviction. After the embarrassment the Americans faced by announcing a reward for collecting information about someone who lives like any free human being without any court-admissible evidence, I felt the need to enlighten them with some hard-hitting, and much needed, evidence.

Listed below is what I found after a great deal of research. Some of the figures quoted are mentioned in media reports while a great deal of the record has been shared by JuD themselves, which they claim can be independently verified.

  • Education

Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) runs 140 schools throughout Pakistan, most of which offer free education to orphans and the less privileged. Free uniforms and books are also provided to the students who are unable to afford these. They also run four colleges along with few technical education institutes offering basic skills needed to work. Thousands of students are enrolled in all of their educational institutes.

  • Medical facilities

JuD has managed to build hospitals in Muridke, Balakot, Manserha, Muzaffarabad, Lahore, Gujranwala, Karachi and Hyderabad, most of them with state-of–the-art medical equipment. Their medical department possesses a 98 ambulance fleet along with dozens of blood-banks and laboratories. Free medicines are provided in hundreds of mobile dispensaries, which operate on a regular basis. The total number of patients they provide health care to reaches up to hundreds and thousands each month.

  • Water program

Water shortage in the desert areas of Sindh and Balochistan has been a severe problem for many years. JuD’s water program has drilled wells and provided hand-pumps to the drought-hit areas of Balochistan and Sindh in recent years.

  • Disaster management

1) The 2005 earthquake: JuD was the first organisation to reach the affected areas, equipped with boats, mules, and thousands of workers who trekked and rescued people from the highest peaks in Kashmir. Millions were provided with cooked meals, thousands were rescued, families were given provision on monthly basis, tent villages were formed, and their aid distribution network and survey earned them the trust of many international aid organizations. Shelters and Houses were provided in the rehabilitation phase that continued for years.

2) The 2008 Ziarat earthquake: Balochistan saw its worst disaster in many years. Again, JuD responded with specifically engineered shelters, rescue, aid, and warm clothes for extreme temperatures. Iron sheets were extensively provided for re-building homes.

3) The 2010 floods: In the face of Pakistan’s worst floods for decades, JuD rescued  many people, provided cooked meals round the clock. They set up numerous medical camps providing medical assistance to many. Moreover, families were provided with monthly provision packs and tents and shelters were provided to affected families. Hundreds of Houses were re-constructed in the rehabilitation phase. Hindus have also rallied in JuD’s support at times during the relief efforts.

4) The 2011 floods: Once again, JuD was out there in the water on their motor boat rescue service. The Pakistan Army and JuD were the only two entities that were providing rescue services according to live accounts and media reports.

  • Orphans and widow program

JuD provides monthly provisions and cash donations to more than 40,000 orphans and widows. Moreover these widows are provided with job opportunities and relevant skills. Orphans are given free education.

  • Political and national issues and JuD’s response

JuD does not participate in the electoral process as they consider the western democratic model to be incompatible as a governance system to the ground realities of Pakistan. Despite that, JuD has worked to unite different sects, has arranged events in coordination with different sects to promote unity. They have spoken about the illegal construction of dams by India blocking the flow of water into Pakistani rivers, in violation of bilateral agreements. They have protested peacefully against the caricatures of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) in the Western press, and morally support the freedom struggles in Indian occupied Kashmir as well as in Afghanistan.

  • De-radicalisation and anti-terror propagation

JuD has assisted the government of Punjab in their de-radicalisation program. It has always condemned suicide attacks, killings of civilians, and radicalisation in their routine propagation activities. They have intensively researched and professed very scholarly and insightful arguments on the ethics of jihad in the contemporary world, which condemns all kinds of violence and terrorism.

  • Formation of Difa-e-Pakistan Council

The formation of the DPC and its massive rallies protesting plans to reopen Nato supply routes is said to be the main driving force behind the US putting head money for Hafiz Saeed -the major contributor to DPC cause of blocking Nato supplies and bringing the drone campaign to an end.

Hafiz Saeed, has recently written a letter to Pakistani Parliamentarians who are reviewing the terms and conditions of the supplies, not only the religious, but minority representatives who have also joined with the DPC at their gatherings.

My reward?

Since I have brought up ‘convictable’ evidence, I can justifiably claim the reward.

US policy makers have terrorised the world and made a mockery of justice, especially during the last decade.

With the blood of millions on their hands, they deserve no right to bully individuals who have never asked for anything from the people they serve except for the famous phrase that every JuD cadre humbly asks for:

 “Duaon mein yaad rakhiyay ga

(Remember us in your prayers.)

This post  originally appeared here.

Follow Tabish on Twitter @tabesch.


Tabish Qayyum

Tabish Qayyum

An educational consultant and writer who tweets @Tabesch and blogs at [email protected]

The views expressed by the writer and the reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of The Express Tribune.

  • Jamal

    Oh please, you’re going to great extents to justify him… Don’t know if he is a noble man or not… But innocent until proven guilty.Recommend

  • Dawood

    very well written! Its true indeed that JuD is doing a lot of social workRecommend

  • Mohsin

    nice article, just changed my perception about this person, PEACERecommend

  • Zohaib Bashir

    Wonderful Read.. Keep it up….! ;)Recommend

  • http://lonepkliberal.wordpress.com Loneliberal PK

    An unapologetically one-sided article, though it’s nice to be made aware of JuD’s achievements.

    Of course, it’s worth mentioning that many of the “schools” are actually “madrassas”. And they carry out a lot of missionary work under the guise of humanitarian service (not that it makes the service any less commendable, but one should know that it’s more than just altruism at play here).

    And it’s unsurprising that you didn’t mention Lashkar-e-Taiba founded by Hafiz sahab, working under the cover of JuD, which openly declared Hindus and Jews to be “enemies of Islam”, and has been linked to many cases of cross-border terrorism. And that him, and DPA, are a real hindrance to the Indo-Pak peace process.

    I guess this didn’t fit well into your narrative of “1001 ways why Hafeez Saeed is Mother Teressa reincarnated”Recommend

  • HST

    Philanthropy DOES NOT negate terrorism. Recommend

  • http://India vasan

    Philanthropy and hate speech inside, Terrorist attacks outside. AK 47 and suicide bombing training inside, Shooting spree and suicide bombing outside. Saint inside and terrorist outside, Thy name is Sayeed. How do u get evidence then, The inside has to become outsideRecommend

  • Another Victim

    And dear author, WHERE ARE THE FUNDS COMING FROM?Recommend

  • Maaz Ahmad

    They have not got any single evidence against JuD and Hafiz Saeed…
    I remember Benazir one saying on CNN about herself “acquisitions, acquisitions, acquisitions… Where is the evidence”
    Mr Saeed keep on saying to journalist that he welcome any peace process to solve kashmir issue..
    the problem to Indian govt is that he always highlight the issue of Indian aggression in Kashmir… if fighting for rights of people peacefully is terrorism than Mr Gandhi is one of the biggest terrorist in the known history of mankind Recommend

  • Bilal

    They deserve to be killed for doing so much social workRecommend

  • Drenched In Blood

    Pakistanis

    We outsiders will deal with the likes of Saeed Hafiz in a suitable manner. Far more concerned we are who wish to see a normal Pakistan about average educated Pakistani person. The author here seems to be a young, education consultant. That good. That is the kind of Pakistan we would like to see develop. It would be a tragedy if the world cannot distinguish Pakistani young education consultants from Saeed Hafizs and their supporters.Recommend

  • MarkH

    Because all that unrelated information automatically makes him incapable of murder? If you actually look into it you’ll find that many people who have done monstrous things were highly regarded amongst the people who knew them and when the people find out what he did they say they never saw it coming. They even come to their defense.
    It’s one of the top reasons killers aren’t in jail. They’ve fooled everyone around them.Recommend

  • Sabih Zafar Ullah

    I wonder where does all the money come from to support these activities? Do you wonder?

    I also wonder, why did America and India chose only Hafiz Saeed the “Social Worker” to demonize, why not Edhi? After all, according to you, they both are doing the same thing…Recommend

  • Qaisrani

    @Author.

    There is nothing like free lunch in this world.They have hidden agenda and that is they want to reconvert all the muslims to their interpretation of Islam as they consider them heretics.Between this what is their source of income??

    We d’not need any philantheropist work.We just want peace.Stop bashing India and interfering in Kashmir.let it be resolved politically.I fear those days when JUD will go out of control like our once blue eyes are free to destroy Pakistan now.We(the people in Punjab) d’not feel the suffereings of people in KPK as we consider it their war.Wait for the days when JUD will go out of control and war will be faught on fertile lands of Punjab as JUD is Punjab based party.dangerous scenario.Recommend

  • Pakistani

    Nice article first time to see on ET.Recommend

  • Rex Minor

    Let the People of Pakistan show the Red Card to Mr Obama and company and their enterprise for slaughtering innocent muslims. Let them chase the domestic killers who are shooting innocent students in the university areas.

    rex MinorRecommend

  • Mirs

    Hafiz Saeed was important member of LeT, he participated in Afghan war and recruited many people for this purpose, later they called their group LeT and built their office in bwpur, they participated in kashmir too. Later on hafiz saeed had disagreements with other team members of LeT and with the help of agencies he arrested his opponents in LeT, by that time he started doing social work under the banner of JuD, and from then on JuD is active in social work, lately it was reported that he had some sort of connections with AL-Qaeda too, he has sympathies with taliban and al-qaeda and he had been helping in some way or the other.Recommend

  • Usman

    He should be given the Noble Peace Prize! This man is another Gandhi. The graceful way in which he carried himself during his trial, when he was wrongly convicted of a hundred murders. The way is which he has shown solidarity and support to the minority sects especially Shias. He has been the first line of defence against their persecution and killings.

    He has built hundreds of schools which churn out peace loving and enlightened doctors and scientists everyday, all well rehearsed in the art of jackets and pressure cookers.

    As the author says “JuD has worked to unite different sects, has arranged events in coordination with different sects to promote unity” and “They have protested peacefully against the caricatures of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)” . I can still vividly remember those peaceful protests.

    “JuD does not participate in the electoral process as they consider the western democratic model to be incompatible as a governance system to the ground realities of Pakistan.” The ZIA model is best suited for ground realities in pakistan.

    And yes he has been targeted because of his Difa-e-Pakistan rally. Not because India has been asking for his trial since the attacks happened.

    The author who seems to be an active member of the peace loving JuD is refreshingly honest and unbiased in this article. I am looking forward to read more from himRecommend

  • Parvez

    Very one sided and not convincing. Recommend

  • Cynical

    @Author

    Hafeez Saeed for nobel prize for peace.Recommend

  • BlackJack

    Dear Pakistan, it is clear that you deserve Hafiz Saeed and vice-versa. I am sure you will be able to modify your system of government according to his wishes soon enough.Recommend

  • moeed

    mr vasan,
    my fellow indian, hafiz saeed is not guilty until hes proven. and i request to stop with you baseless allegations and share us any verifiable evidence for his conviction. peace!Recommend

  • Insan

    in the first place i thought ET has been hacked =D

    very well written article with good research done. by the way all those comments highlighting about LeT. Please, don’t impose your own thoughts on others. Jihad remains Jihad.Recommend

  • Umer

    This cover of charity was placed after 9/11 when it became impossible to collect funds in the name of Jihad. Since my childhood LeT was proudly involved in terrorism particularly in Indian Kashmir. Now that things are not going well for extremists this is a change of tact. As for all the figures quoted in this article where is some independent confirmation of that and also where is the money coming from? Why are the donors not giving money to established charities like Edhi instead? If this is government money as some media reports suggested then why is government not funding legitimate national services like Rescue 1122 instead which do a great job if they receive the funding and resources that they need? Recommend

  • Nadir

    The Klu Klax Klan, the Nazis, US occupation forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, Israeli occupation forces in Palestine, the RSS, etc etc, also provide/provided educational and healthcare services. The problem is that those who did not agree with them, ended up dead!Recommend

  • Vineet

    Good. The author looks young. If this is the mindset of youth. Way to go guys! Congratulations!!
    One can see in which direction your country is headed!Recommend

  • Drenched In Blood

    I consider myself a friend of Pakistan. I am horrified that ET Moderators withheld my first post.

    I am resubmitting it. Please publish it since it contains nothing that a progressive Pakistani will find objectionable or untrue.

    Before Pakistanis support Saeed Hafiz they should know his reality, so they can make best decision for themselves.

    S None of you appear to recall or know much about LET. It operated openly before 9/11. It had a truly gargantuan website for those days wherein it detailed in cold blood its murders and killings. It was full of pictures of swords and guns dripping in blood and body parts flying over its pages. It actually celebrated the death of people and presented a ‘side’ of ‘Islam’ that hopefully most of you would never see or like to see. The speed with which the website was updated and its sheer scope made one wonder whether it really was run by an organization – or where the resources to run it came from.

    Whom does or did LET represent? Where did the funds to turn Mr Hafiz into a big charity at home come from? Is he such a great scholar or saint that Pakistanis naturally pour their hearts to fill his coffers? If this man has unlimited funds at his disposal, the average Pakistani, instead of enjoying benefits with closed eyes, should want to know who his supporters might be and for what purpose.

    The man still openly articulates his hatred of Americans and Indians. This is not ‘gairath’ of pride in being Pakistani, it is pure hatred of others. America and India have accused him of being directly involved in the massacre in Mumbai. Pakistanis who celebrate the man’s ‘achievements’ should do so very carefully, aware of what they are up to – because actions have consequences.Recommend

  • http://www.zaidzamanhamid.wordpress.com Pasha

    If all the disaster management program was first carried out by JuD, I wonder how come Pak Army claims the same thing (we handle the situation, government does nothing)?

    By the way across the border RSS has same profile. Runs much more than 140 schools ( it is thousands), always first at any disaster site to provide help with its volunteer, has tons of other program to develop the nation (India).. I wonder why the author and like minded people hate RSS then.Recommend

  • Salman Javed

    Those who are trying to negate the fact that JuD is actually not running “Schools” but “Mardassas” probably live in a Utopia. I mean com’on man. You people should think for a while that America put the bounty to “find” the evidence, and why is that?? Probably all we have is Acusation, Acusation and Acusations…
    JuD Crime for our some brothers and Sisters is that it stands against all those beleifs which are against Quran and Sunnah or those actions which can bring harm to Pakistan. The Formation of DPC is one of its biggest milestone achieved. It is because of this DPC that Our Parliment is now forced to add those conditions which are related to Drone Attacks. We accept it or not. Who else could achieve this except of some lip service.

    We by opposing JuD only legitmizing American and Indian interference in our National Affairs. We by opposing JuD only proving that we even don’t know what these people are doing for Pakistan. We by opposing JuD only trying to prove the world that we don’t believe in their Version of Islam. Therefore he is yours to takedown. What an apologatice approach by our friends.
    I think its high time that we realize who is “Actually” working for Pakistan and Pakistanis.

    Secondly to some of my friends. Those of my friends who are wondering about their “Funding resources” should pay a visit to their office. See their books and also visit some public Gathering. They’ll defintly get a chance to know from Where this Huge Funding is coming. Lets not judge others due to assumptions and illusions created by International Media.
    PeaceRecommend

  • Salman Javed

    @Pasha,

    RSS has a different profile brother. They believe in eliminating and cleansing of every minorty from the face of India. Does JuD holds the same grudge against minorites or other Sects?? Thats again a question which is already answered in the article above. READ.Recommend

  • Ali Nasir

    For the first time ET someone on ET wrote the truth :) Recommend

  • Fawad

    @Pasha:
    @Salman Javed:

    Well don’t know about rss. But know what is jud. It certainly is not good. People can close eyes and defend and justify. Remember that by doing this we are taking our country to the gallows and not to any prosperity.
    No other country in the world supports wrong openly as we do. Recommend

  • Mirs

    Here is the link of video where people are protesting against JuD’s atrocities, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHf743jCcWsRecommend

  • aqeel

    Very Bad Article writer is supporting to criminals and killers, they support Sippa-e-sahaba banned organisation, they killed innocent people< He also support Lashker-e-jahangvi, you are educated please dont support them and dont make hero of these people. I think Govt have to handover this man to Americaaaaaaaaaaaaaa and take bounty :))Recommend

  • Salman Javed

    I am quite surprised that People here are repeating the same old Classical mistake of mixing up JuD with LeT. They should visit nearest Consulate of America or American embassy in Islamabd or Tweet or email to Statedepartment that they have un deniable facts and proved agains Hafiz Saeed and JuD, SO that they may get their reward…right?? I mean all those who are opposing and trying to interlink JuD with LeT blind is due some hatred or Fear?? Recommend

  • Umer

    @Salman Javed:

    Does JuD holds the same grudge against
    minorites or other Sects??

    Yes, here is the their real face;

    In recent weeks, a spate of armed
    robberies and kidnappings of the
    Ahmedi sect in the city of Faisalabad
    was traced to members of
    Jamaat-ud-Dawa, the group previously
    known as Lashkar-e-Taiba that was
    blamed for the devastating 2008
    terrorist attack on Mumbai. Three
    Ahmedis were also shot dead, thought
    to be the work of the same group.

    Ref: The Gaurdian, 29 April 2010

    Does this answer your question? Recommend

  • Ibraheem Mustafa

    For the first time ET showing both sides of the picture !!Recommend

  • usman

    jamat ud dawa is great.these people are kind,noble,educated and social as well.welldone jamt ud dawaRecommend

  • Torres Sly |Manila Philippines

    An outrageous and ridiculous assessment by some, trying to established the connection of evil with Philanthropic acts. JuD were no Robin Hoods but they engaged in purely helping those who are in need. The common adage that ” the flesh of the beast also lies under the skin of the saint ” doesn’t apply here.The influence of yellow journalism can never be estimated. Many thanks to the author for shedding light to this issue.Recommend

  • Torres Sly |Manila Philippines

    An outrageous and ridiculous assessment by some, trying to established the connection of evil with Philanthropic acts. JuD were no Robin Hoods but they engaged in purely helping those who are in need. The common adage that ” the flesh of the beast also lies under the skin of the saint ” doesn’t apply here.The influence of yellow journalism can never be under-estimated. Many thanks to the author for shedding light to this issue.Recommend

  • Kamran

    Very good article showing the correct image of Hafiz Saeed and his organization. I distinctly remember that his organization was the only one to help Earthquake an Flood Victims. The govt was no where seen in the effected areas.
    Found this organization very active when Pakistan faced severe problems.No Matter what US and India say, this person is definitely not a problem for Pakistan.Recommend

  • Umer

    @Salman Javed:

    Does JuD holds the same grudge against
    minorites or other Sects??

    One more;

    The followers of JuD leader Hafiz
    Saeed, who has been declared a
    terrorist leader by the UN for his
    role in establishing the banned Jihadi
    outfit, Lashkar-e-Taiba, appealed to
    “all Muslims brothers” to gather at
    HFH at noon on January 29 to force the
    Ahmadis to cease all acts of worship
    in the locality.

    What ban?: Jamaatud Dawa don’t want Ahmadis praying in PindiRecommend

  • Waleed Nazir

    @umer

    Could you quote who traced back ? any police reports, investigations ? anything ? just the guardian report ?? that’s so ridiculous of you man….Recommend

  • Ibraheem Mustafa

    @HST:
    Innocent until proven guilty !Recommend

  • Umer

    Very good article showing the correct
    image of Hafiz Saeed and his
    organization. I distinctly remember
    that his organization was the only one
    to help Earthquake an Flood Victims.

    Are you kidding? The whole world had come over to help for both flood and earthquakes and especially for the earthquake. Among many other international organisations, US military personnel and Chinook helicopters also worked for weeks in helping towards rescue efforts. Not many people actually saw JuD in that huge number of people who turned up to help during earthquake. If you just “saw” JuD then one has to wonder how did that happen; propaganda can not replace facts.Recommend

  • http://www.pkkh.tv DQ

    Good to see an article promoting Pak’s national interests for once. The issue isn’t Hafiz Saeed, the issue with the US 10m bounty is Pakistan. HS is being targeted for running a campaign which voices the opinion of the common man – an end to drone strikes and a complete stop on the partnership with US/NATO on the inhuman and barbaric occupation of Afghanistan, the blowback from which we suffer every day. It also attempts to push the final nail into the coffin of Kashmiri freedom resistance by labelling them as terrorists.

    As for JuD, we’re all witness to their selfless and dedicated work during the 2005 earthquake and the recent floods. I’ve visited a few of their schools and they’re anything but Madrassahs. They provide modern scientific education to thousands of underprivileged children, often for free. May Allah bless them for their efforts and accept their work.

    Americans have shot themselves in the foot with this step, admitting that neither India or the US have court-admissible evidence against the man. And despite that we have the defeatists and aman-ki-asha apologists in our midst who want us to put aside all legal norms and hand over this man to the US. The real problem with Pakistan today are these slaves who cannot stand up for their countrymen and for their nation. Pakistan is better off without them.Recommend

  • Xahid

    Some people are posting baseless comments about JUD and Hafiz Saeed, I don’t know if they are ignorant or Indians? i will rely on the second thought, since in Pakistan everybody knows about Hafiz Saeed and his charity works, ohh yea where did all the Money come from is that Saudia who opened their unlimited treasure for Anti Indian Man? or is it collected from Peoples of Pakistan by the name of charity and donation. anyway’s, the whole Pakistan stands behind the Hafiz Saeeed. Recommend

  • http://www.pkkh.tv DQ

    As for the allegations on HS supporting terrorists and sectarian outfits in Pakistan, we sent one of our reporters to visit ZH at his house last week and to discuss the issue of Jihad and Takfeer in detail. Here’s the video: http://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com/2012/04/06/hafiz-saeed-exclusive-full-length-interview-to-pkkh/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9U0pXGpGps

    Hafiz Saeed, in the above interview to PKKH.tv, sheds light on the reality and validity of takfeeri terrorists in Pakistan through references from Islamic history and from a sharia point of view.Recommend

  • http://www.pkkh.tv DQ

    correction:

    As for the allegations on HS supporting terrorists and sectarian outfits in Pakistan, we sent one of our reporters to visit HS at his house last week and to discuss the issue of Jihad and Takfeer in detail. Here’s the video: http://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com/2012/04/06/hafiz-saeed-exclusive-full-length-interview-to-pkkh/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9U0pXGpGps

    Hafiz Saeed, in the above interview to PKKH.tv, sheds light on the reality and validity of takfeeri terrorists in Pakistan through references from Islamic history and from a sharia point of view.Recommend

  • Salman Javed

    @Umer,

    Brother, The propoganda about JuD grudge against Minorites blew off with the rallies of Hindus and Christians in their favor. Reps from different minority communitues like Sikhs, Hindus and Christians even joined the Stage on invitation of none other but JuD in the recent DPC rallies. The exrept you quoted is agian a baseless accusation against an Org for which America and Indis is desperate to find out some evidence. If this could have been used as an evidence, America might have given the 10$million bounty to the writer with such an “extraordinory and undeniable Evidence” :) About Minorities and their efforts for them Read the article again. you can contact the writer as well for further research from the grounds instead of believing in some piece written by someone who even doesn’t know about the origin of JuD properly. :) PeaceRecommend

  • Umer

    @Waleed Nazir:

    Its Faisalabad police report. Recommend

  • Umer

    @Ibraheem Mustafa:

    Innocent until proven guilty !

    In Pakistan you can not even prove Mumtaz Qadri guilty with bullet prove evidence. That is point, not lack of evidence. Recommend

  • Waleed Nazir

    @umer

    Where is the Police report ? can you show the FiR etc anything ? If JD can fight the legal war with UN then why can’t they face the court if this is a genuine thing that you have posted ? Don’t forget Hafiz Saeed got aquitted from Supreme court and High courts after the govt tried their best to prosecute him.. its the same court that threw out Musharraf, and giving tough time to govt/geelani.. so, please stop floating lies.Recommend

  • Salman Javed

    @Umer

    Com’on Yar, Mumtaz Qadri was proven guilty,its his case which is under hearing. Dont misquote things here.

    Secondly, Mumtaz Qadri got bullet proof evidence, but What about Hafiz Saeed, any evidence? and if for the sake of Argument a person from his jamat Commits a crime,does that mean Hafiz Saeed is guilty of all this??
    We should hand over each and every Politicial of PPP then and even their workers to America because Murtaza Bhutto ran infamous Al-Zulfiqar, a known terrorist outfit.Should we?? No one blaimed PPP or Bhutto for the atrocities committed by his son!!

    So your argument and evidence is yet again not “Valid”

    and Hafiz Saeed is still innocent Until Proven Guilty. :)Recommend

  • Waleed Nazir

    @umer FYI,

    Mumtaz Qadri is actually convicted.. he has pleaded guilty and shown no remorse.. you got it wrong again. shows your grudge.. go to you tube and search FIF relief activities, I doubt the writer hasn’t presented true stats, its way more work then mentioned.. Recommend

  • Khattab Farooq

    This is a complete proof of innocence for Jamat ud Dawa Chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed. Good job Buddy. But, the point of dismay is that American gone insane up to a great extent in an unforgiving enmity against Muslims, especially the one who talks of Justice for Muslims.Recommend

  • aneela shahzad

    I don't know about the LeT allegations, i was still waiting for the Swiss-bank verdict, point is, we all have grown very brilliant in spending all our time in dissecting personalities, trying to go deeper and deeper in the issues which do not really matter, so that in the mean time, those who have plans can act in stealth.

    At this time of peril, when the nation stands between disgrace and destruction, when the national and religious identity of this people is being looted and raped in front of their very eyes and total war in terms of mind-play, terrorism and back-door interference is being waged upon us, one would be just and courageous to stand with and behind the few voices that have taken to the 'Difa' of this nation; at the boarders, at the ideological fronts, at the religious front. If they have become the voice of the hearts of the Pakistanis, we will stand with them!
    Recommend

  • Kamran

    @The whole world had come over to help for both flood and earthquakes and especially for the earthquake

    All time big Terrorists under the name of US AID also came along with them…
    Hafiz Saeed and his organization intentions were clean and what they demand in Return? Well in case of US AID, it comes with the cost of “DO MORE”. Hafiz Seed never said Pakistan to do more for him. His intentions are clean, at least he is not harmful to Pakistanis and Pakistan. Recommend

  • http://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com Shuja Pasha

    Impressive article…..clearly shows JUD’s dedication & services rendered to help pakistan tackle core issues like extremism. We must say, JUD was there in times when pakistan needed help during national disasters. They were the first to help the people along side the army.

    Hafiz saeed has a remarkable leadership quality and he has united several political & religious parties under one banner called DPC.

    Well Done JUD….you have won hearts and mind of a common pakistani.Recommend

  • Umar Farooq

    Tabish has done an effort enough to provide American gang of CIA some proofs against Hafiz Saeed. Now, let the people of America and other European Countries decide whether Hafiz Saeed is a mass murderer or an institution himself of peace, justice and harmony. Let them decide that whether Hafiz Saeed is a man running a terrorist organization or trying his heart out to educate the poor and cure the poor people who cant even afford to have a times meal. But, before making the decission a fact should be kept in mind, Justice can never comprise of biasness on the basis of anything.Recommend

  • Pankaj

    isn’t he the same man who was shedding tears on the demise of Osama bin laden ?Recommend

  • Arsalan khan

    What is the source of income of Hafiz Saeed , Mr. Lakhvi and others of this group?

    Is Ajmal Qassab”s evidence false?

    Why Muslims of other sects are not included in Hafiz Saeed”s set up?

    These are some of the important questions?Recommend

  • Kamran

    @Umer
    As per your comment…
    This cover of charity was placed after 9/11 when it became impossible to collect funds in the name of Jihad. Since my childhood LeT was proudly involved in terrorism particularly in Indian Kashmir

    Why you have so much soft corner for India when it come to Kashmir?

    Does it means nothing to you when a Muslim is killed and raped in Kashmir by Indian Army?

    Muhammad Bin Qasim Raised from HIJAZ and came here to free Muslims just because he received one letter for Help. Every day Muslims in Kashmir calls us for help and if we do not help them then its such a disgrace. Wake up brother, Even you or I will take up arms and ammunition if you will see your brother or loved once being killed. Just consider one day of your life in Indian Held Kashmir.
    From India we cannot get anything good, Forget about it.. By Blocking waters, Killing Kashmirs and having dreams of disintegrating Pakistan, We cannot expect much from India. Recommend

  • Kamran

    @In Pakistan you can not even prove Mumtaz Qadri guilty with bullet prove evidence. That is point, not lack of evidence.

    Go to the Courts. You better challenge in court, whats the problem. By the way where is Mumtaz Qadri now a days? Recommend

  • HQ

    @ Umer:

    You’ve put forth 3 primary grudges / reservations against JuD:

    a. They have suppressed ahmedis.
    b. Lack of evidence against them does not prove them guilty.
    c. Their humanitarian work is propaganda… they didn’t do any more than the rest of the world.

    I’ll try to provide brief accounts:

    a. Apart from baseless uproar in the media, there is no hard core evidence suggesting any involvement of LeT or JuD in this event. They peacefully protested against the wrongdoings of ahmedis and they and every other Muslim has the right to protest against the nuisance of ahmedis.

    b. Lack of evidence does matter. Allegations coming from our enemy country India, if taken seriously – will incriminate entire Pakistan… in fact, India has been accusing Pakistan for several other things which don’t make any sense. India accuses Pakistan of an insurgency in Kashmir, whereas itself it has over 700,000 regular troops deployed to forcefully occupy a small piece of land… now you may ask me for evidence on this, correct? similarly, the writer is giving the right piece of evidence against HS. He has been involved in looking US and India in the eyes and speaking the word of honor without fear. That is the crime they’re trying to punish him against.

    c. Have you been to any of the places where JuD set up relief camps under the label of FiF? If not, you have no right to argue. If however you have been, then you should be ashamed of rubbishing their claims because they have 100% evidence to prove their claims – plus no foreign or local aid organization helped the victims of the earthquakes of 2005, and the floods of 2010 and 2011 the way JuD did – neither in same magnitude nor with the same dedication.

    One of the commentators has mentioned “where the funds are coming from?” – well, i’m hoping you’re not suggesting ISI is providing them the funds to carry on their relief efforts… however, if you really do want to know, it is the common man from lower middle class to the elite who trust these guys and provide them ample funds to keep their relief operations running.

    Yet another reader has suggested that the schools that JuD has setup are “madrassas” that will breed “terrorists”… this reader also needs to prove his claims with evidence – atleast tell the readers of the blog if he has ever been to ONE school set up by JuD and then we’ll talk facts to facts, figures to figures.Recommend

  • HQ

    @Drenched In Blood:

    Evidence, my friend? all the allegations you have leveled against the organization and HS seem fictional to the point they’re funny…. however, we would love to see what you’re mentioning in your tell-tale fabrication of a deadly organization that is probably deadlier than the NATO, US, Blackwater and other coalition partners combined.Recommend

  • Drenched In Blood

    Is this the final tragedy of Pakistan unfolding before us that will make it impossible to distinguish between Hafiz Saeed and Tabish Qayuum from Pakistan?

    Such a possibility is very painful for me on a personal level. As an international recruiter I have helped recruit young Pakistanis to positions around the world – two in Houston, one in Manila, and one in Montreal, recently. Neither Muslim nor Hindu, neither Indian nor American, I have a long-standing association with professionals of Pakistani background.

    My job obligates me to keep abreast of the social situation in many different countries. As of now I feel no hesitation in separating young, educated Pakistani professionals from the extreme fringe elements of Pakistani society.

    In India, I am aware of RSS. They are a Hindu nationalist group. Pakistanis should not draw any comfort in JuD/LET’s alleged similarity to RSS.

    Despite a number of recent controversies, Pakistan still retains many friends in other countries. We create mutually beneficial relationships with Pakistan. Please keep Pakistan moderate, progressive, and connected to the rest of the world.Recommend

  • Faraz

    Great article though one sided but we need to know the reality of people good effort…
    He may be bad for some people but in comparison with politicians,bureaucrats and media persons he is the best… Recommend

  • Umer

    @Salman Javed:

    Brother, The propoganda about JuD
    grudge against Minorites blew off with
    the rallies of Hindus and Christians
    in their favor.

    No it doesn’t. First, the incidents quoted involve Ahmadis not Hindus or Christians. Can you show any pro-JuD rally or statement from Ahmadis the effected party?

    Second, the very small token Hindu and Christian presence in those rallies does not represent majority of Hindus and Christians by a long shot. Third, both persecuted minorities have no choice but to go along with what is demanded of them or else they face further hostilities and persecution. The person who represented Christians and stood for them, Shehbaz Bhatti, was killed by religious extremists for the same reason, giving a very clear message to minorities; obey or get killed.

    In Pakistan propaganda and extremism is king, and facts and rationality don’t amount to anything. Recommend

  • Sufyan

    “This cover of charity was placed after 9/11 when it became impossible to collect funds in the name of Jihad” – what a blatant lie.Recommend

  • Sufyan

    As for treatment of minorities, it is the Hindus that mostly benefited from JuD’s Water program. Recommend

  • Annus

    wow, you have open our eyes Mr. Tabish..
    if this is so then why are we waiting for??? we as a nation should stand with him and support his organization..to let down US n India’s evil plans.
    May Almighty bless him, ameenRecommend

  • Umer

    @Waleed Nazir:

    just the guardian report ?? that’s so
    ridiculous of you man….

    That’s s more credible than the author of this article quoting some random figures which JuD supporters are taking as hadith.Recommend

  • nour

    if he was from some other country and belonged to some other religon so called abnormal losers/liberels would have said he is a peacemaker bla bla bla (seriously normal people dont care what these stupid people say) sadly he is a muslim and Pakistani so he does not deserve to live even he is innocent.Recommend

  • Moz

    MQM also does charity work.
    Hitler also built schools and hospitals, and he gave Germany the fastest highway in the world.
    George H W Bush also helped Africans fight deadly diseases.
    America itself is the biggest donor of aid to poor countries.

    Now does that make these people good in your eyes? Doing charity does not mean that you are above law. As one commentator put it, philanthropy does not negate terrorism. And Hafiz Saeed is not uniting different sects, in fact he is just leading one. He spew a lot of hate against Christians and Hindus. DPC had people like Malik Ishaque, who have blood of many shia muslims. So the author is living in fools paradise, and is probably a member of JUD.Recommend

  • billo

    @Salman Javed actually Hafiz Saeed himself boasted about being the founder of Lashkar-e-Tayyaba. He only denied the link between JuD and LeT after the 2008 Mumbai attacks when the LeT was declared a terrorist organization. Before then he never once shied away from the connection. And despite denying the link between JuD and LeT, Hafiz Saeeds till defended the LeT, saying that it could not have been behind the attack. Besides, there are numerous examples of Hafiz Saeed talking about violent jihad against infidels as well as WITHIN Pakistan.
    Recommend

  • http://www.shibil.com shibil

    The writer correctly points out that the US has terrorized the world and has the blood of millions on its hands. Luckily for the US, this writer also presents them with a perfect solution. 1) Pump lots of money into social services in Pakistan. 2) Continue to terrorize the world and have the blood of innocents on your hands. By this writer’s logic, Point 1 will absolve you for Point 2. Recommend

  • naveed

    mashALLAH impressing article.keep it up.Recommend

  • naveed

    mashALLAHRecommend

  • observer

    Hafiz Saeed for Nobel Peace Prize.Recommend

  • Salman Akram

    @Umer:
    &@Qaisrani:
    No doubt many governments and institutions sent donations and helped in relief work. But the fact is that Jud workers were the first to reach scene and were the first to act. I my self have seen some of their workers. They have a lot of passion and are very committed. Their workers were able to reach the far-flung areas where the flood was severest and helped people their. That is why they enjoy a great deal of support from the public.Recommend

  • mr. righty rightist

    “Innocent until proven guilty”

    Good argument. But, where does the onus of probing his guilt fall upon? Pakistani authorities.

    So, why would Pakistani authorities (who are already aware of his terrorism) investigate him, when they created, nurtured him?

    Pakistani authorities have protected known terrorists like Osama, Dawood Ibrahim.

    Hafis Saeed is their asset. His guilt will never be proven as long as the proving entity is Pakistan – a dysfunctional, lawless and failing state.Recommend

  • Burhan

    O please..we don;t need such philanthropists who burn out hateRecommend

  • Abu Dawood

    Thanks ET for letting someone present an image of JuD different from the one presented by the self pitying Pakistani liberals and the Indian propagandists. This is the image of JuD known by common people of Pakistan. These are the tangible proofs, the ground realities which people can go and witness themselves, unlike the so-called proofs created in the offices of Indian and American intelligence agencies. Kudos to the writer. May Allah bless you. Recommend

  • Atif

    @Drenched In Blood:
    i think you have given nothing in your comments but fear of unknown…you are afraid of something that you have learned to hate for a long time…
    i resent the fact that people raise red flags whenever a muslim religious person becomes vocal about his views. Mr. Saeed is not the only person in this category.
    By the way people must also know that PM India is nominated in a FIR for murder…when he was living in pakistan….does this mean we can arrest him whenever he comes to Pakistan…
    what i really hate is targetting of Muslims who talk about Islam as a guidance for their life…this is true for all not just for hafiz saeed….
    let accused with solid evidences that all i ask you..my friend
    all i know is this pakistanis are resilient folks and no one can take us for a ride, not our own government or anyone claims to be a saviour….
    i think we folks living in Pakistan know best what is going on….and Recommend

  • Atif

    @Loneliberal PK:
    i think you should see 200 hindus protesting agains the ban on FIF in hyderabad…search the youtube…for it
    or the fact that most of hindus took shelter in FIF shelter in sind….i think most of your comments are based on accusations and not real investigation…
    loneliberal PK….liberal never means to preach your fear of the unknown…i think you should start working on knowing these people..and than comment..spend time with them in their relief camps and see if they are serving hindus any differently….Recommend

  • Tariq Ali

    @Umer:

    In Pakistan you can not even prove
    Mumtaz Qadri guilty with bullet prove
    evidence. That is point, not lack of
    evidence

    For the record our courts ruled him as ‘guilty’ ! and exonerated Hafiz Saeed from all charges
    Whether you agree with the courts ruling or not its a separate thingRecommend

  • Atif

    @HST:
    terrorism is haram in islam…and have the worst of penality
    lets differentiate between terrorism and call for uphold of people of the land occupied by 8 lacs foriegn troopsRecommend

  • Atif

    @vasan:
    it’s easy go to inside and find out…than bring it outside….accusations and accusations..
    all the shouting can never make falsehood into the truthRecommend

  • Atif

    hats off…the article have opened up my eyesRecommend

  • enfleur

    nice article…JuD is doing a lot of good work
    did not know that beforeRecommend

  • Pollack

    Hey, my right hand hold an AK while I am showing a peace symbol with my left hand and I am a right hander. Am I peaceful or a terrorist?

    The author forgot to mention the “accomplishments” of LET, which is another name for JUD, like the Mumbai attack, parliament attacks, countess assassination of politicians who don’t toe the Pakistan line in Kashmir and this list at a long one. The author won’t talk about this part of the picture because it doesn’t suit his agenda. Some writers are unashamedly unethical and have no problem with keeping the readers in the dark on aspects of the story which really matter. Sad situation.Recommend

  • truth

    you think one thing…and usually it’s the other way around
    well what can i say JuD good work keep it up
    in seems that there is a clash of Ideas and nothing more..one control by hindu mindset and the other control by islamic mindset
    may the best win…and by best i mean the best in sincere hard work for the ideals
    fantastically it seems JuD is winning…the batter and war for heart and minds for the people of pakistan…
    this will go on whenever we have 2 way of life confronting each other
    but we must remember to hate the wrong in the human and not the human itself
    this is the only way O’ Sons of Adam…
    verily we are from same father…..we must only strive for truth and throw behind our backs what is meant to be defeated that is falsehood…
    now the real question is are we working on fact finding mission to be on the side of the truth
    if we all do it…than we can be one….one with each other…serving only the ETERNAL TRUTH…Recommend

  • Pollack

    @Salman Javed: “Brother, The propoganda about JuD grudge against Minorites blew off with the rallies of Hindus and Christians in their favor”

    Animals under captivity in a zoo play their part for survival. Cptive Humans are not any different.Recommend

  • http://peddarowdy.wordpress.com Anoop

    Pakistanis deserve him.

    He might have killed a few dozen Indians in 2008 in Mumbai, but his ideology brainwashes several hundreds Pakistanis every year. His ideology is responsible for Terror inside Pakistan. He is one of the reasons for Pakistan’s isolation.

    He cant harm India much, but he will suck the life out of Pakistan. The irony is that Pakistanis will be happier for it.Recommend

  • Umer

    @Waleed Nazir:

    Mumtaz Qadri is actually convicted..

    Mumtaz Qadri’s punishment is quashed and he is now enjoying accommodation on tax payers’ expense including the right to marital relationship. Previously he had to work for all these privileges. According to media reports even Iftikhar Chaudhary sent a judge, no less, to jail to ensure Mumtaz Qadri was comfortable.

    The judge who gave the original sentence to Mumtaz Qadri is in hiding presumably abroad. Where is the conviction now? There is no judge able to punish any terrorist in Pakistan, barring any rare exception that we are not aware of.Recommend

  • Sufyan

    @umer

    “Can you show any pro-JuD rally or statement from Ahmadis the effected party?”

    Qadianis/Marzaiees would never have any pro-Muslim rally for main stream Islam is what thier entire struggle is against.Recommend

  • Qaisrani

    @Salman Akram.

    So if any party does relief work then it must be free to propagate his poisonous ideology based on hatred for other groups.
    Wait for the day when all good work will come to end and there would be civil war.Recommend

  • http://www.eeqaz.org Hamid Kamaluddin

    Islam’s case only needs people who can speak like you, Mr Tabish. Right facts in plain words. Thank you!Recommend

  • Umer

    @HQ:

    Apart from baseless uproar in the
    media, there is no hard core evidence
    suggesting any involvement of LeT or
    JuD in this event. They peacefully
    protested against the wrongdoings of
    ahmedis and they and every other
    Muslim has the right to protest
    against the nuisance of ahmedis

    There are apparently courts in Pakistan to take care of any wrongdoings, however for JuD to not go to courts shows who is wrong here and the presumed “nuisance” was actually quite legal and hence not “manageable” through legal means. One more proof that JuD does not care for the law or has any concern for it.

    Why would any real charity be involved in this religious persecution and thugry?Recommend